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By *phrodite OP   Woman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

I am having an interesting conversation with somebody who believes that all good ideas come from young people.

While I agree that many ideas come from the young mind, I also believe that some of us become their most creative, most successful and most fulfilled at a more mature age.

What do you think?

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By *oe_Steve_NWestCouple
over a year ago

Bolton

Sometimes some experience of life is required for ideas - - i can't think that age makes that much difference- oldies can have great ideas too! Z

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think a bit of both its nice to have the energy and enthusiasm of someone young but its also good to have someone with some experience to take s step back and think before making the final move.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I agree with you, as you get older or more mature you have a depth of life experiences to draw on that the young just don't have.

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By *phrodite OP   Woman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

Being creative whether it is in engineering, music, the arts or whatever can happen at any time. I can think of countless people who excelled during the later stages of their lives... of course soem of this depends on your life style and whether or not you adopt a slow and passive or a more active life style that includes ongoing learning and openess to new ideas.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

been young often means that the ideas are very good but the risk are at times not taken into consideration

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My mind never stops ..... it's just that my body can't keep up with it any more.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

I think that the best ideas come when young and older mix together and spark off each other. The young bring that "throw caution to the wind" attitude that allows them to try and push for seemingly impossible things and the older ones bring the experience that helps make the impossible.....possible!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Surely truly creative thinking requires imagination and the chances of a persons imagination baring an original thought becomes less likely the older we get……

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By *phrodite OP   Woman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


"been young often means that the ideas are very good but the risk are at times not taken into consideration "
Very true! And tbh... although I SHOULD know better considering my biblical age... I have been known to have some good ideas and not worry about the ifs, buts or other consequences

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was 46 when I had the good idea of joining here! Never looked back

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By *phrodite OP   Woman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


"Surely truly creative thinking requires imagination and the chances of a persons imagination baring an original thought becomes less likely the older we get…… "
See, I would say almost the opposite is true. The older we get (providing we have our faculties , of course) the number of experiences (and thus neural connections) is much greater than at a young age. I am aware that the growth of synapses slows down but the absolute number seems still to increase and I guess it all depends on the level of stimulation...A greater number of potential connections... seems to suggest a greater potential for creative thinking?

Can you tell I have been on yet another course

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By *phrodite OP   Woman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


"I think that the best ideas come when young and older mix together and spark off each other. The young bring that "throw caution to the wind" attitude that allows them to try and push for seemingly impossible things and the older ones bring the experience that helps make the impossible.....possible!"
I would agree with that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Surely truly creative thinking requires imagination and the chances of a persons imagination baring an original thought becomes less likely the older we get…… See, I would say almost the opposite is true. The older we get (providing we have our faculties , of course) the number of experiences (and thus neural connections) is much greater than at a young age. I am aware that the growth of synapses slows down but the absolute number seems still to increase and I guess it all depends on the level of stimulation...A greater number of potential connections... seems to suggest a greater potential for creative thinking?

Can you tell I have been on yet another course "

That’s the problem…… the older you get the more you naturaly rely on experience, thus your potential for original creativity suffers…..

Its not by chance many musical composers produced their defining work early in their careers ....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am at my most productive when I am relaxing, or away from my computer...

I can see things much more clearly when I'm away from the risk of "target fixation"....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

yes older have more life experience, but with life experience comes the effects it has on people. So a good young fresh untainted view on something is also a good thing :D

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am at my most productive when I am relaxing, or away from my computer...

I can see things much more clearly when I'm away from the risk of "target fixation".... "

I’ve found cycling was a good way to unleash my imagination….

Although it could have just been something to do with that hard saddle on my bike……

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I did the security for a car place up in deeside, when they had a problem to sort out they called everyone in who worked in that area and asked them for any ideas, If someone had a good idea regardsless of age they give it a go. Shame more place are don't work like this.

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By *phrodite OP   Woman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


"Surely truly creative thinking requires imagination and the chances of a persons imagination baring an original thought becomes less likely the older we get…… See, I would say almost the opposite is true. The older we get (providing we have our faculties , of course) the number of experiences (and thus neural connections) is much greater than at a young age. I am aware that the growth of synapses slows down but the absolute number seems still to increase and I guess it all depends on the level of stimulation...A greater number of potential connections... seems to suggest a greater potential for creative thinking?

Can you tell I have been on yet another course

That’s the problem…… the older you get the more you naturaly rely on experience, thus your potential for original creativity suffers…..

Its not by chance many musical composers produced their defining work early in their careers .... "

I may not have explained what I meant clearly. What I meant was that a greater sum of one's experiences (learning and life) allows more new connections to be explored, allows a greater curiosity towards the unknown than perhaps somebody who for whatever reason has never ventured out, emotionally, intellectually etc...Not sure if that is any clearer...

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

Yes age does by and large bring maturity and wisdom, which may help with thinking things through..

planning logically etc..

maybe also less of a risk taking mentality and a bit more of a cautious approach..

younger folk will also have their attributes to bring so a mix is a good balance..

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By *phrodite OP   Woman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


"I am at my most productive when I am relaxing, or away from my computer...

I can see things much more clearly when I'm away from the risk of "target fixation".... "
I find that sometimes when I am having to perform a task that requires to think creatively and use imagery rather than language.

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By *phrodite OP   Woman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


"yes older have more life experience, but with life experience comes the effects it has on people. So a good young fresh untainted view on something is also a good thing :D"
Again, we need a combination of both. Best of both worlds...

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By *phrodite OP   Woman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


"

Its not by chance many musical composers produced their defining work early in their careers ....

"
I would dispute that, too - some sure ... and died young as well eg Mozart. Others matured and continued to mature and became better and more innovative with age... Beethoven, Haydn, Mahler, Bach...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't think I'm any more productive as i have gotten older than when i was younger, i think you are either a productive person or not, i don't think age comes into it.

I will say however, i have my best ideas late at night.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"they called everyone in who worked in that area and asked them for any ideas, If someone had a good idea regardsless of age they give it a go. Shame more place are don't work like this."

thats a positive way of addressing issue's..fair play to them..

i once had a rupert try and bollock me in front of a Brig for asking my section if they had any ideas about a task we had to do..

as it happened we did have someone with experience of a similar situation and we went with that partially..

job done, rupert got tugged by the 2ic and the Brig was happy..result all round..

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By *phrodite OP   Woman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


"I don't think I'm any more productive as i have gotten older than when i was younger, i think you are either a productive person or not, i don't think age comes into it.

I will say however, i have my best ideas late at night."
Perhaps you are productive in other ways? The mere fact you seem to peak at night sounds to me as if you are productive/ creative whatever you want to call it.

Tbh I think that anybody who is willing to think about this topic, discuss it on here or with others has a curious mind and in my world is by definition somewhat productive and creative if that makes sense?

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By *phrodite OP   Woman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


"they called everyone in who worked in that area and asked them for any ideas, If someone had a good idea regardsless of age they give it a go. Shame more place are don't work like this.

thats a positive way of addressing issue's..fair play to them..

i once had a rupert try and bollock me in front of a Brig for asking my section if they had any ideas about a task we had to do..

as it happened we did have someone with experience of a similar situation and we went with that partially..

job done, rupert got tugged by the 2ic and the Brig was happy..result all round.."
It is being resourceful!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don't think I'm any more productive as i have gotten older than when i was younger, i think you are either a productive person or not, i don't think age comes into it.

I will say however, i have my best ideas late at night.Perhaps you are productive in other ways? The mere fact you seem to peak at night sounds to me as if you are productive/ creative whatever you want to call it.

Tbh I think that anybody who is willing to think about this topic, discuss it on here or with others has a curious mind and in my world is by definition somewhat productive and creative if that makes sense?"
It does, but sometimes one can over analyse, which in turn makes my brain hurt lol, i will still stick by the "you either have got it, or you haven't" school of thinking. In my experience, i have found this to be true, creative people often think outside the box and are willing to take risks with their creativity, i don't think that has anything to do with age at all.

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By *leasureDomeMan
over a year ago

all over the place


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Its not by chance many musical composers produced their defining work early in their careers ....

I would dispute that, too - some sure ... and died young as well eg Mozart. Others matured and continued to mature and became better and more innovative with age... Beethoven, Haydn, Mahler, Bach..."

I think all people of all ages ,get far too distracted too easily,sometimes its a good idea ,sometimes it isnt .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Surely truly creative thinking requires imagination and the chances of a persons imagination baring an original thought becomes less likely the older we get…… See, I would say almost the opposite is true. The older we get (providing we have our faculties , of course) the number of experiences (and thus neural connections) is much greater than at a young age. I am aware that the growth of synapses slows down but the absolute number seems still to increase and I guess it all depends on the level of stimulation...A greater number of potential connections... seems to suggest a greater potential for creative thinking?

Can you tell I have been on yet another course

That’s the problem…… the older you get the more you naturaly rely on experience, thus your potential for original creativity suffers…..

Its not by chance many musical composers produced their defining work early in their careers ....

I may not have explained what I meant clearly. What I meant was that a greater sum of one's experiences (learning and life) allows more new connections to be explored, allows a greater curiosity towards the unknown than perhaps somebody who for whatever reason has never ventured out, emotionally, intellectually etc...Not sure if that is any clearer... "

I think productive people will always find a way to utilise their enthusiasm albeit by enlisting help or adopting a maverick approach, but I feel people who are prone to taking risks and push boundaries are more inclined to do so when they have more time to recover if things go wrong,,

But I guess real productivity is perhaps measured in a different way from that…!

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By *phrodite OP   Woman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


"

Its not by chance many musical composers produced their defining work early in their careers ....

I would dispute that, too - some sure ... and died young as well eg Mozart. Others matured and continued to mature and became better and more innovative with age... Beethoven, Haydn, Mahler, Bach...

I think all people of all ages ,get far too distracted too easily,sometimes its a good idea ,sometimes it isnt . "
And that is how they find their way to the scene, are led astray, become fallen victims of their active minds...?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"they called everyone in who worked in that area and asked them for any ideas, If someone had a good idea regardsless of age they give it a go. Shame more place are don't work like this.

thats a positive way of addressing issue's..fair play to them..

i once had a rupert try and bollock me in front of a Brig for asking my section if they had any ideas about a task we had to do..

as it happened we did have someone with experience of a similar situation and we went with that partially..

job done, rupert got tugged by the 2ic and the Brig was happy..result all round.. It is being resourceful!"

No i in team, yes my decision to adopt that plan and my responsibilty had it gone wrong etc..

never seen anything wrong or in any way indicating 'weak leadership' (as the rupert tried to tell me in a one to one later) in utilising the people within the team if its relevant and time permits..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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Its not by chance many musical composers produced their defining work early in their careers ....

I would dispute that, too - some sure ... and died young as well eg Mozart. Others matured and continued to mature and became better and more innovative with age... Beethoven, Haydn, Mahler, Bach..."

Granted Affro, those are all fine example to disprove my theory,,,, but I was more referring to the modern era of popular music.....

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By *phrodite OP   Woman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


"

Its not by chance many musical composers produced their defining work early in their careers ....

I would dispute that, too - some sure ... and died young as well eg Mozart. Others matured and continued to mature and became better and more innovative with age... Beethoven, Haydn, Mahler, Bach...

Granted Affro, those are all fine example to disprove my theory,,,, but I was more referring to the modern era of popular music..... "
Soxy, I would not dream of disproving anything to do with you - as I consider you an Intellect par example and as I don t like losing, I would not start a battle with your wits

Plus you got the better legs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Its not by chance many musical composers produced their defining work early in their careers ....

I would dispute that, too - some sure ... and died young as well eg Mozart. Others matured and continued to mature and became better and more innovative with age... Beethoven, Haydn, Mahler, Bach...

Granted Affro, those are all fine example to disprove my theory,,,, but I was more referring to the modern era of popular music..... Soxy, I would not dream of disproving anything to do with you - as I consider you an Intellect par example and as I don t like losing, I would not start a battle with your wits

Plus you got the better legs "

pfft Affro........ me... I'm just bloke who reserves the rite to change my mind about the things I say as I'm saying them..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In a situation at work where the team is made up of 60+ guys x 2 and me, 38 plus a guy in his late 20s. It's a great combination to have, we're all learning

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By *phrodite OP   Woman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


"In a situation at work where the team is made up of 60+ guys x 2 and me, 38 plus a guy in his late 20s. It's a great combination to have, we're all learning "
ABsolutely - bit like Hovis... Best of both worlds

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By *ucsparkMan
over a year ago

dudley

Experience in life counts for a hell of a lot. The drive of youth combined with experience can make for a great result

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Experience in life counts for a hell of a lot. The drive of youth combined with experience can make for a great result "

Agreed, I'm an engineer and work with all age ranges, a little input from all gets ideas bouncing and results can be good. Generally find the under 21's aren't much interested in helping though or have little experience, the more you know the more possibilities you can Imagine!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd say people definitely have an increasingly 'it won't work' attitude as they get older, likewise a weariness from past failures.

However there are plenty of exceptions and those fortunate to have had successes maybe benefit from the confidence to take more risks coupled with the experience of doing so wisely.

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By *r mrs pCouple
over a year ago

taunton


"I am having an interesting conversation with somebody who believes that all good ideas come from young people.

While I agree that many ideas come from the young mind, I also believe that some of us become their most creative, most successful and most fulfilled at a more mature age.

What do you think? "

Well mr p had the idea to swing, if only he had the idea many years ago when we were young lol.

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By *ackandkateCouple
over a year ago

Truro

Old age and treachary will always overcome youthfull enthusiasm

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By *phrodite OP   Woman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


"

Well mr p had the idea to swing, if only he had the idea many years ago when we were young lol. "
I can relate to that - wish we had had the idea 10 years earlier

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