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"Has anyone seen the indian moon landing video? When I saw it I couldn’t stop laughing. I didn’t expect to see an 80s computer game
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"Has anyone seen the indian moon landing video? When I saw it I couldn’t stop laughing. I didn’t expect to see an 80s computer game
Do you think it really landed or not?
I was reading about it but never seen video.
Will look it up now... nosey!"Have you seen it yet? | |||
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"It looked like Button Moon." | |||
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"A country that has 229m of its population living in poverty should not be indulging in such projects." It’s these projects and the desire for adventure that ultimately leads to new technologies and opportunities. I would argue for the case that space exploration will inevitably help the growing industries and deliver a more sustainable future (harnessed correctly) that ultimately reduces poverty for many Indians. | |||
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"A country that has 229m of its population living in poverty should not be indulging in such projects. It’s these projects and the desire for adventure that ultimately leads to new technologies and opportunities. I would argue for the case that space exploration will inevitably help the growing industries and deliver a more sustainable future (harnessed correctly) that ultimately reduces poverty for many Indians. " On what evidence of do you offer that hypothesis? | |||
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"Maybe the last 60 years of space exploration? " No doubt the space race has brought some benefits to human kind but I fail to see how landing a craft on the moon will benefit those 229m people. The gig has been done! | |||
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"A country that has 229m of its population living in poverty should not be indulging in such projects." True to some extent. Even if they didn't take on these projects, the greedy corrupt governments will find a way to siphon it to their wallets. The UK is a great example how they fill their own bellies. | |||
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"Maybe the last 60 years of space exploration? No doubt the space race has brought some benefits to human kind but I fail to see how landing a craft on the moon will benefit those 229m people. The gig has been done!" The gig may have been done previously sure.. but not for India.. imagine the new technology, the new way of thinking, the sense of adventure that may (or may not) inspire a new generation of kids from that region to challenge the norm and do amazing things. Poverty overnight may not change, but the next generation? Who knows? But one thing for sure is that new horizons brings new hope.. | |||
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"Maybe the last 60 years of space exploration? No doubt the space race has brought some benefits to human kind but I fail to see how landing a craft on the moon will benefit those 229m people. The gig has been done! The gig may have been done previously sure.. but not for India.. imagine the new technology, the new way of thinking, the sense of adventure that may (or may not) inspire a new generation of kids from that region to challenge the norm and do amazing things. Poverty overnight may not change, but the next generation? Who knows? But one thing for sure is that new horizons brings new hope.. " Have you been to the sub continent? I have and seen first hand the abject poverty that this and other generations still live with. Horizons for some are the next meal. | |||
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"Maybe the last 60 years of space exploration? No doubt the space race has brought some benefits to human kind but I fail to see how landing a craft on the moon will benefit those 229m people. The gig has been done! The gig may have been done previously sure.. but not for India.. imagine the new technology, the new way of thinking, the sense of adventure that may (or may not) inspire a new generation of kids from that region to challenge the norm and do amazing things. Poverty overnight may not change, but the next generation? Who knows? But one thing for sure is that new horizons brings new hope.. Have you been to the sub continent? I have and seen first hand the abject poverty that this and other generations still live with. Horizons for some are the next meal." I have yes..as with many other places around the world. but I don’t need to quantify my opinion with my geographical placements. How would you change things for those poor people? It’s easy to say no, don’t do this or you shouldn’t be spending it on that. If space exploration isn’t the answer, what is? (I’m not saying space exploration is the answer, I’m just offering a reason as to why it might help in the future.) | |||
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"I have and seen first hand the abject poverty that this and other generations still live with. Horizons for some are the next meal." Presumably you also saw the massive wealth over there? Corruption is a big part of the problem and if the money hadn't gone on their moon landing it certainly wouldn't have gone to those living in poverty. | |||
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"Whats on the Moon? " Water and other elements. | |||
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"Whats on the Moon? " The camera crew from the US moon visit | |||
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"A country that has 229m of its population living in poverty should not be indulging in such projects." Poverty rate in 2023: UK 22% India 14% Largest economy in world: India 5 UK 6 Surely all these people sound so jealous and ignorant, no wonder there's no progress in UK when all they can think of is how to try and fail to find failure in other progressive countries rather than fix their own | |||
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"A country that has 229m of its population living in poverty should not be indulging in such projects. Poverty rate in 2023: UK 22% India 14% Largest economy in world: India 5 UK 6 Surely all these people sound so jealous and ignorant, no wonder there's no progress in UK when all they can think of is how to try and fail to find failure in other progressive countries rather than fix their own "Statistically you are being very selective! And frankly incomprehensible! | |||
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"Whats on the Moon? Water and other elements." Is Cheese an element | |||
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"Whats on the Moon? Water and other elements. Is Cheese an element" Dairylea potentially is! | |||
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"A country that has 229m of its population living in poverty should not be indulging in such projects. Poverty rate in 2023: UK 22% India 14% Largest economy in world: India 5 UK 6 Surely all these people sound so jealous and ignorant, no wonder there's no progress in UK when all they can think of is how to try and fail to find failure in other progressive countries rather than fix their own
Statistically you are being very selective! And frankly incomprehensible!"Why don't you provide some statistics if you can? These are real stats.. Brits being best at whining and moaning instead of being productive.. | |||
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"A country that has 229m of its population living in poverty should not be indulging in such projects. It’s these projects and the desire for adventure that ultimately leads to new technologies and opportunities. I would argue for the case that space exploration will inevitably help the growing industries and deliver a more sustainable future (harnessed correctly) that ultimately reduces poverty for many Indians. On what evidence of do you offer that hypothesis?" Well, the Apollo project at its time was the most expensive project ever undertaken. In the years since, income generated (in real terms and directly attributed to the project) has exceeded the initial outlay many times over. | |||
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"A country that has 229m of its population living in poverty should not be indulging in such projects. It’s these projects and the desire for adventure that ultimately leads to new technologies and opportunities. I would argue for the case that space exploration will inevitably help the growing industries and deliver a more sustainable future (harnessed correctly) that ultimately reduces poverty for many Indians. On what evidence of do you offer that hypothesis? Well, the Apollo project at its time was the most expensive project ever undertaken. In the years since, income generated (in real terms and directly attributed to the project) has exceeded the initial outlay many times over. " Please show me the evidence on which you base that statement? | |||
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"A country that has 229m of its population living in poverty should not be indulging in such projects. Poverty rate in 2023: UK 22% India 14% Largest economy in world: India 5 UK 6 Surely all these people sound so jealous and ignorant, no wonder there's no progress in UK when all they can think of is how to try and fail to find failure in other progressive countries rather than fix their own
Statistically you are being very selective! And frankly incomprehensible!
Why don't you provide some statistics if you can? These are real stats.. Brits being best at whining and moaning instead of being productive.."I did. As for whining I don’t think a country that has little or no health care for the vast majority of its population particularly in rural areas has any business spending money on vanity projects. | |||
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"A country that has 229m of its population living in poverty should not be indulging in such projects. Poverty rate in 2023: UK 22% India 14% Largest economy in world: India 5 UK 6 Surely all these people sound so jealous and ignorant, no wonder there's no progress in UK when all they can think of is how to try and fail to find failure in other progressive countries rather than fix their own
Statistically you are being very selective! And frankly incomprehensible!
Why don't you provide some statistics if you can? These are real stats.. Brits being best at whining and moaning instead of being productive..
I did.
As for whining I don’t think a country that has little or no health care for the vast majority of its population particularly in rural areas has any business spending money on vanity projects.
"There's no stats provided by you to refute the stats I mentioned, don't lie.. As for health care, India doesn't huge have govt sector health care, but the private sector health care is far more accessible and cheaper than any other country in the world.. As far as spending is concerned, it's called investment. Probably you don't understand it and that's why UK is a declining economy.. | |||
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"A country that has 229m of its population living in poverty should not be indulging in such projects. It’s these projects and the desire for adventure that ultimately leads to new technologies and opportunities. I would argue for the case that space exploration will inevitably help the growing industries and deliver a more sustainable future (harnessed correctly) that ultimately reduces poverty for many Indians. On what evidence of do you offer that hypothesis? Well, the Apollo project at its time was the most expensive project ever undertaken. In the years since, income generated (in real terms and directly attributed to the project) has exceeded the initial outlay many times over. Please show me the evidence on which you base that statement?" This is an analysis of roi from various space programmes Return from Public Space Investments - London Economics https://londoneconomics.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/LE-UKSA-Return-from-Public-Space-Investments-FINAL-PUBLIC.pdf Many of these are long term returns rather than short term which I suspect will be the political justification. Plus look at how much Western allies have spent on the various wars in Iraq and Afghanistan in comparison... | |||
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"A country that has 229m of its population living in poverty should not be indulging in such projects. Poverty rate in 2023: UK 22% India 14% Largest economy in world: India 5 UK 6 Surely all these people sound so jealous and ignorant, no wonder there's no progress in UK when all they can think of is how to try and fail to find failure in other progressive countries rather than fix their own
Statistically you are being very selective! And frankly incomprehensible!
Why don't you provide some statistics if you can? These are real stats.. Brits being best at whining and moaning instead of being productive..
I did.
As for whining I don’t think a country that has little or no health care for the vast majority of its population particularly in rural areas has any business spending money on vanity projects.
There's no stats provided by you to refute the stats I mentioned, don't lie.. As for health care, India doesn't huge have govt sector health care, but the private sector health care is far more accessible and cheaper than any other country in the world.. As far as spending is concerned, it's called investment. Probably you don't understand it and that's why UK is a declining economy.."Ok your percentage stats on poverty are spurious in so far as 14% of 1.4 billion is a larger affecting number than 22% of 66m. The WHO called on India to make a concerted effort to roll out MMR and other life saving vaccines to its population. The access to basic medical care was deemed as being archaic in the same symposium. Having worked in the country I think you will find that investment would be better targeted at replacing some of the country’s rail way infrastructure some of it dating back to the Raj. Local spending on hospital, clinics public transportation and sanitation infrastructure would benefit the population and help one of the most aggressive carbon producing countries try and become a more sustainable model. In my last stay in a nice hotel in Mumbai we were advised not to drink the tap water owing to “ local contamination issues” perhaps the lunar landing craft may find cleaner H20 on the polar region of the moon? | |||
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"A country that has 229m of its population living in poverty should not be indulging in such projects. It’s these projects and the desire for adventure that ultimately leads to new technologies and opportunities. I would argue for the case that space exploration will inevitably help the growing industries and deliver a more sustainable future (harnessed correctly) that ultimately reduces poverty for many Indians. On what evidence of do you offer that hypothesis? Well, the Apollo project at its time was the most expensive project ever undertaken. In the years since, income generated (in real terms and directly attributed to the project) has exceeded the initial outlay many times over. Please show me the evidence on which you base that statement? This is an analysis of roi from various space programmes Return from Public Space Investments - London Economics https://londoneconomics.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/LE-UKSA-Return-from-Public-Space-Investments-FINAL-PUBLIC.pdf Many of these are long term returns rather than short term which I suspect will be the political justification. Plus look at how much Western allies have spent on the various wars in Iraq and Afghanistan in comparison... " Extract from the executive summary Where possible, the UK Space Agency estimates the economic returns to space investments using programme-specific information. However, in some cases the returns from investments can be highly uncertain, for example concerning the economic value of scientific data generated. To help illustrate the potential impact of funding, the Agency has previously used research on the impact of science and innovation funding to develop appropriate assumptions. This is a study of the Uk space programme. Note the authors comments on highly uncertain outcomes! As for the spending on wars..........I am probably whinnying again but I see that as futile and the funds could have been put to better use! | |||
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"A country that has 229m of its population living in poverty should not be indulging in such projects. Poverty rate in 2023: UK 22% India 14% Largest economy in world: India 5 UK 6 Surely all these people sound so jealous and ignorant, no wonder there's no progress in UK when all they can think of is how to try and fail to find failure in other progressive countries rather than fix their own
Statistically you are being very selective! And frankly incomprehensible!
Why don't you provide some statistics if you can? These are real stats.. Brits being best at whining and moaning instead of being productive..
I did.
As for whining I don’t think a country that has little or no health care for the vast majority of its population particularly in rural areas has any business spending money on vanity projects.
There's no stats provided by you to refute the stats I mentioned, don't lie.. As for health care, India doesn't huge have govt sector health care, but the private sector health care is far more accessible and cheaper than any other country in the world.. As far as spending is concerned, it's called investment. Probably you don't understand it and that's why UK is a declining economy..
Ok your percentage stats on poverty are spurious in so far as 14% of 1.4 billion is a larger affecting number than 22% of 66m.
The WHO called on India to make a concerted effort to roll out MMR and other life saving vaccines to its population. The access to basic medical care was deemed as being archaic in the same symposium.
Having worked in the country I think you will find that investment would be better targeted at replacing some of the country’s rail way infrastructure some of it dating back to the Raj.
Local spending on hospital, clinics public transportation and sanitation infrastructure would benefit the population and help one of the most aggressive carbon producing countries try and become a more sustainable model.
In my last stay in a nice hotel in Mumbai we were advised not to drink the tap water owing to “ local contamination issues” perhaps the lunar landing craft may find cleaner H20 on the polar region of the moon?"So, rest of 86% of 1.4 billion is much larger than 78% of 66 million who are above poverty, right.. And cost of living is very low compared to UK.. Again, u are only ranting without any stats, proving my point of ur whining without any actual stats.. MMR is in national vaccination program for ages (again u didn't quote the year when WHO mentioned this). In India, u can visit a doctor same day and also get treatment started within 24 hours, not sure how you would compare that to the long waiting times in NHS UK. Indian railways is one largest train network with constant upgrades, so can you provide your source which says that some railway infrastructures date to British Raj times? Drinking water is provided as separate supply to households than the regular domestic use water as it is not cost effective compared to installing water filters at home.. But again, all this is just whining without any stats to back ur 1st claim of poverty in India.. Even a country like USA has poverty index of 11%, so should they refrain from everything else until they clear out this poverty? And with 22% in poverty, why do you spend on traveling and hotels in India instead of feeding your homeless and poor UK people? | |||
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"A country that has 229m of its population living in poverty should not be indulging in such projects. Poverty rate in 2023: UK 22% India 14% Largest economy in world: India 5 UK 6 Surely all these people sound so jealous and ignorant, no wonder there's no progress in UK when all they can think of is how to try and fail to find failure in other progressive countries rather than fix their own
Statistically you are being very selective! And frankly incomprehensible!
Why don't you provide some statistics if you can? These are real stats.. Brits being best at whining and moaning instead of being productive..
I did.
As for whining I don’t think a country that has little or no health care for the vast majority of its population particularly in rural areas has any business spending money on vanity projects.
There's no stats provided by you to refute the stats I mentioned, don't lie.. As for health care, India doesn't huge have govt sector health care, but the private sector health care is far more accessible and cheaper than any other country in the world.. As far as spending is concerned, it's called investment. Probably you don't understand it and that's why UK is a declining economy..
Ok your percentage stats on poverty are spurious in so far as 14% of 1.4 billion is a larger affecting number than 22% of 66m.
The WHO called on India to make a concerted effort to roll out MMR and other life saving vaccines to its population. The access to basic medical care was deemed as being archaic in the same symposium.
Having worked in the country I think you will find that investment would be better targeted at replacing some of the country’s rail way infrastructure some of it dating back to the Raj.
Local spending on hospital, clinics public transportation and sanitation infrastructure would benefit the population and help one of the most aggressive carbon producing countries try and become a more sustainable model.
In my last stay in a nice hotel in Mumbai we were advised not to drink the tap water owing to “ local contamination issues” perhaps the lunar landing craft may find cleaner H20 on the polar region of the moon?
So, rest of 86% of 1.4 billion is much larger than 78% of 66 million who are above poverty, right.. And cost of living is very low compared to UK..
Again, u are only ranting without any stats, proving my point of ur whining without any actual stats..
MMR is in national vaccination program for ages (again u didn't quote the year when WHO mentioned this). In India, u can visit a doctor same day and also get treatment started within 24 hours, not sure how you would compare that to the long waiting times in NHS UK.
Indian railways is one largest train network with constant upgrades, so can you provide your source which says that some railway infrastructures date to British Raj times?
Drinking water is provided as separate supply to households than the regular domestic use water as it is not cost effective compared to installing water filters at home..
But again, all this is just whining without any stats to back ur 1st claim of poverty in India.. Even a country like USA has poverty index of 11%, so should they refrain from everything else until they clear out this poverty?
And with 22% in poverty, why do you spend on traveling and hotels in India instead of feeding your homeless and poor UK people?"Question Dash - have you been to the sub continent? But again, all this is just whining without any stats to back ur 1st claim of poverty in India.. Even a country like USA has poverty index of 11%, so should they refrain from everything else until they clear out this poverty? And with 22% in poverty, why do you spend on traveling and hotels in India instead of feeding your homeless and poor UK people? See your last two paragraphs above. My comments were exactly that.........priority should be given to sorting out problems in our own back yard. As for the last paragraph it more or less says it all. My trips to most countries are to look at improving construction techniques using standards operated in the UK...........looking at investment! If you are going to be obtuse then there is little point continuing the debate but you could have used the argument that the Indian landing cost circa £100m whereas the Russian lunar expedition cost circa £1b and is in bits on the surface........but you didn’t. | |||
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"A country that has 229m of its population living in poverty should not be indulging in such projects. Poverty rate in 2023: UK 22% India 14% Largest economy in world: India 5 UK 6 Surely all these people sound so jealous and ignorant, no wonder there's no progress in UK when all they can think of is how to try and fail to find failure in other progressive countries rather than fix their own
Statistically you are being very selective! And frankly incomprehensible!
Why don't you provide some statistics if you can? These are real stats.. Brits being best at whining and moaning instead of being productive..
I did.
As for whining I don’t think a country that has little or no health care for the vast majority of its population particularly in rural areas has any business spending money on vanity projects.
There's no stats provided by you to refute the stats I mentioned, don't lie.. As for health care, India doesn't huge have govt sector health care, but the private sector health care is far more accessible and cheaper than any other country in the world.. As far as spending is concerned, it's called investment. Probably you don't understand it and that's why UK is a declining economy..
Ok your percentage stats on poverty are spurious in so far as 14% of 1.4 billion is a larger affecting number than 22% of 66m.
The WHO called on India to make a concerted effort to roll out MMR and other life saving vaccines to its population. The access to basic medical care was deemed as being archaic in the same symposium.
Having worked in the country I think you will find that investment would be better targeted at replacing some of the country’s rail way infrastructure some of it dating back to the Raj.
Local spending on hospital, clinics public transportation and sanitation infrastructure would benefit the population and help one of the most aggressive carbon producing countries try and become a more sustainable model.
In my last stay in a nice hotel in Mumbai we were advised not to drink the tap water owing to “ local contamination issues” perhaps the lunar landing craft may find cleaner H20 on the polar region of the moon?
So, rest of 86% of 1.4 billion is much larger than 78% of 66 million who are above poverty, right.. And cost of living is very low compared to UK..
Again, u are only ranting without any stats, proving my point of ur whining without any actual stats..
MMR is in national vaccination program for ages (again u didn't quote the year when WHO mentioned this). In India, u can visit a doctor same day and also get treatment started within 24 hours, not sure how you would compare that to the long waiting times in NHS UK.
Indian railways is one largest train network with constant upgrades, so can you provide your source which says that some railway infrastructures date to British Raj times?
Drinking water is provided as separate supply to households than the regular domestic use water as it is not cost effective compared to installing water filters at home..
But again, all this is just whining without any stats to back ur 1st claim of poverty in India.. Even a country like USA has poverty index of 11%, so should they refrain from everything else until they clear out this poverty?
And with 22% in poverty, why do you spend on traveling and hotels in India instead of feeding your homeless and poor UK people?
Question Dash - have you been to the sub continent?
But again, all this is just whining without any stats to back ur 1st claim of poverty in India.. Even a country like USA has poverty index of 11%, so should they refrain from everything else until they clear out this poverty?
And with 22% in poverty, why do you spend on traveling and hotels in India instead of feeding your homeless and poor UK people?
See your last two paragraphs above. My comments were exactly that.........priority should be given to sorting out problems in our own back yard.
As for the last paragraph it more or less says it all. My trips to most countries are to look at improving construction techniques using standards operated in the UK...........looking at investment!
If you are going to be obtuse then there is little point continuing the debate but you could have used the argument that the Indian landing cost circa £100m whereas the Russian lunar expedition cost circa £1b and is in bits on the surface........but you didn’t."I lived 35 years of my life in India, so yes, i know more about the country than u. No country is perfect, every country has its own issues.. Even the largest economies like USA, China, Japan and Germany have 12-15% poverty rate. So none of them should do anything else besides reducing poverty.. Indian economy is better than UK's, so your 1st comment about poverty could be better framed as well.. And that too with more percentage of poor in UK. Exactly as you said, priority should be given to sorting out things in your own backyard, so Brits should concentrate on improving their own economy 1st before commenting on poverty in other countries.. I've provided you stats and asked for the same which you could not (in actual numbers). So you are the one who's going obtuse.. But yeah, i do agree that there's no point in further debate. | |||
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"A country that has 229m of its population living in poverty should not be indulging in such projects. Poverty rate in 2023: UK 22% India 14% Largest economy in world: India 5 UK 6 Surely all these people sound so jealous and ignorant, no wonder there's no progress in UK when all they can think of is how to try and fail to find failure in other progressive countries rather than fix their own
Statistically you are being very selective! And frankly incomprehensible!
Why don't you provide some statistics if you can? These are real stats.. Brits being best at whining and moaning instead of being productive..
I did.
As for whining I don’t think a country that has little or no health care for the vast majority of its population particularly in rural areas has any business spending money on vanity projects.
There's no stats provided by you to refute the stats I mentioned, don't lie.. As for health care, India doesn't huge have govt sector health care, but the private sector health care is far more accessible and cheaper than any other country in the world.. As far as spending is concerned, it's called investment. Probably you don't understand it and that's why UK is a declining economy..
Ok your percentage stats on poverty are spurious in so far as 14% of 1.4 billion is a larger affecting number than 22% of 66m.
The WHO called on India to make a concerted effort to roll out MMR and other life saving vaccines to its population. The access to basic medical care was deemed as being archaic in the same symposium.
Having worked in the country I think you will find that investment would be better targeted at replacing some of the country’s rail way infrastructure some of it dating back to the Raj.
Local spending on hospital, clinics public transportation and sanitation infrastructure would benefit the population and help one of the most aggressive carbon producing countries try and become a more sustainable model.
In my last stay in a nice hotel in Mumbai we were advised not to drink the tap water owing to “ local contamination issues” perhaps the lunar landing craft may find cleaner H20 on the polar region of the moon?
So, rest of 86% of 1.4 billion is much larger than 78% of 66 million who are above poverty, right.. And cost of living is very low compared to UK..
Again, u are only ranting without any stats, proving my point of ur whining without any actual stats..
MMR is in national vaccination program for ages (again u didn't quote the year when WHO mentioned this). In India, u can visit a doctor same day and also get treatment started within 24 hours, not sure how you would compare that to the long waiting times in NHS UK.
Indian railways is one largest train network with constant upgrades, so can you provide your source which says that some railway infrastructures date to British Raj times?
Drinking water is provided as separate supply to households than the regular domestic use water as it is not cost effective compared to installing water filters at home..
But again, all this is just whining without any stats to back ur 1st claim of poverty in India.. Even a country like USA has poverty index of 11%, so should they refrain from everything else until they clear out this poverty?
And with 22% in poverty, why do you spend on traveling and hotels in India instead of feeding your homeless and poor UK people?
Question Dash - have you been to the sub continent?
But again, all this is just whining without any stats to back ur 1st claim of poverty in India.. Even a country like USA has poverty index of 11%, so should they refrain from everything else until they clear out this poverty?
And with 22% in poverty, why do you spend on traveling and hotels in India instead of feeding your homeless and poor UK people?
See your last two paragraphs above. My comments were exactly that.........priority should be given to sorting out problems in our own back yard.
As for the last paragraph it more or less says it all. My trips to most countries are to look at improving construction techniques using standards operated in the UK...........looking at investment!
If you are going to be obtuse then there is little point continuing the debate but you could have used the argument that the Indian landing cost circa £100m whereas the Russian lunar expedition cost circa £1b and is in bits on the surface........but you didn’t.
I lived 35 years of my life in India, so yes, i know more about the country than u. No country is perfect, every country has its own issues.. Even the largest economies like USA, China, Japan and Germany have 12-15% poverty rate. So none of them should do anything else besides reducing poverty..
Indian economy is better than UK's, so your 1st comment about poverty could be better framed as well.. And that too with more percentage of poor in UK. Exactly as you said, priority should be given to sorting out things in your own backyard, so Brits should concentrate on improving their own economy 1st before commenting on poverty in other countries..
I've provided you stats and asked for the same which you could not (in actual numbers). So you are the one who's going obtuse.. But yeah, i do agree that there's no point in further debate."“So none of them should do anything else besides reducing poverty..” Could be an idea there Dash..............you may say I am a dreamer but I not the only one! | |||
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"“So none of them should do anything else besides reducing poverty..” Could be an idea there Dash..............you may say I am a dreamer but I not the only one! All u did so far was hate on India.. Poverty is on decline in India.. The country registered a significant decline of 9.89 percentage points in India's multidimensionally poor from 24.85% in 2015-16 to 14.96% in 2019-2021. The rural areas witnessed the fastest decline in poverty, from 32.59% to 19.28%.(NHFS-5 Survey) I'll leave the debate with these stats.. No matter how much anyone hates the achievements, India is progressive and improving every year.. And that's from perspective of an Indian citizen, not a foreign visitor.." Where in theabove narrative do I express a hate for India? Your argument is ridiculous! | |||
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"“So none of them should do anything else besides reducing poverty..” Could be an idea there Dash..............you may say I am a dreamer but I not the only one! All u did so far was hate on India.. Poverty is on decline in India.. The country registered a significant decline of 9.89 percentage points in India's multidimensionally poor from 24.85% in 2015-16 to 14.96% in 2019-2021. The rural areas witnessed the fastest decline in poverty, from 32.59% to 19.28%.(NHFS-5 Survey) I'll leave the debate with these stats.. No matter how much anyone hates the achievements, India is progressive and improving every year.. And that's from perspective of an Indian citizen, not a foreign visitor.." An anover fing Since we are quoting statistics can you explain why The Foreign, Commonwealth and Development Office (FCDO), which distributes aid, sent India £33.4 million in aid cash in 2022/23. But the FCDO's annual report, published this week, reveals that the total is set to rise to £58m for that period............so in effect the Funded over half the cost to land on the moon! | |||
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"“So none of them should do anything else besides reducing poverty..” Could be an idea there Dash..............you may say I am a dreamer but I not the only one! All u did so far was hate on India.. Poverty is on decline in India.. The country registered a significant decline of 9.89 percentage points in India's multidimensionally poor from 24.85% in 2015-16 to 14.96% in 2019-2021. The rural areas witnessed the fastest decline in poverty, from 32.59% to 19.28%.(NHFS-5 Survey) I'll leave the debate with these stats.. No matter how much anyone hates the achievements, India is progressive and improving every year.. And that's from perspective of an Indian citizen, not a foreign visitor.. An anover fing Since we are quoting statistics can you explain why The Foreign, Commonwealth and Development Office (FCDO), which distributes aid, sent India £33.4 million in aid cash in 2022/23. But the FCDO's annual report, published this week, reveals that the total is set to rise to £58m for that period............so in effect the Funded over half the cost to land on the moon! " If not hate then what would u call all ur false claims and bad mouthing India? To highlight ur claims of 'aid'- "One spokesperson from FCDO categorically highlighted that the UK has given no financial aid to the Indian government since 2015. The spokesperson said, “Since 2015 the UK has given no financial aid to the government of India. Most of our funding now is focused on business investments which help create new markets and jobs for the UK, as well as India. UK investments are also helping tackle shared challenges such as climate change.” This is from the guardian and the telegraph.. Clearly, UK aid to India is only to be in good books for better economical deals.. It's UK who's investing in India rather than India asking for aid from UK.. And if u are so much worried about where ur money is going, then why does UK still spend £86.3 million per year on the maintainance of a useless Royal family? With so much poverty in UK why do u still spend so much on them? | |||
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"Not sure op but they need to sort out the vast poverty that exists in their country before sending things in space." If u follow the thread u will be enlightened to the fact that UK has higher poverty rate than India.. | |||
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"“So none of them should do anything else besides reducing poverty..” Could be an idea there Dash..............you may say I am a dreamer but I not the only one! All u did so far was hate on India.. Poverty is on decline in India.. The country registered a significant decline of 9.89 percentage points in India's multidimensionally poor from 24.85% in 2015-16 to 14.96% in 2019-2021. The rural areas witnessed the fastest decline in poverty, from 32.59% to 19.28%.(NHFS-5 Survey) I'll leave the debate with these stats.. No matter how much anyone hates the achievements, India is progressive and improving every year.. And that's from perspective of an Indian citizen, not a foreign visitor.. An anover fing Since we are quoting statistics can you explain why The Foreign, Commonwealth and Development Office (FCDO), which distributes aid, sent India £33.4 million in aid cash in 2022/23. But the FCDO's annual report, published this week, reveals that the total is set to rise to £58m for that period............so in effect the Funded over half the cost to land on the moon! If not hate then what would u call all ur false claims and bad mouthing India? To highlight ur claims of 'aid'- "One spokesperson from FCDO categorically highlighted that the UK has given no financial aid to the Indian government since 2015. The spokesperson said, “Since 2015 the UK has given no financial aid to the government of India. Most of our funding now is focused on business investments which help create new markets and jobs for the UK, as well as India. UK investments are also helping tackle shared challenges such as climate change.” This is from the guardian and the telegraph.. Clearly, UK aid to India is only to be in good books for better economical deals.. It's UK who's investing in India rather than India asking for aid from UK.. And if u are so much worried about where ur money is going, then why does UK still spend £86.3 million per year on the maintainance of a useless Royal family? With so much poverty in UK why do u still spend so much on them?" Can I ask how much aid the UK received from India in the last 10 years? Pushing against an open door on royalty Bash! That said it’s bit odd a criticism of a monarchy from one who is exposing the virtues of a country that still has a caste system. My profession is construction and have recently been Dispur looking at some horrific building practices and saw firsthand the squalor some ordinary folk have to suffer. I contend still that putting right some home grown problems is preferable to playing at space cowboys! | |||
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"“So none of them should do anything else besides reducing poverty..” Could be an idea there Dash..............you may say I am a dreamer but I not the only one! All u did so far was hate on India.. Poverty is on decline in India.. The country registered a significant decline of 9.89 percentage points in India's multidimensionally poor from 24.85% in 2015-16 to 14.96% in 2019-2021. The rural areas witnessed the fastest decline in poverty, from 32.59% to 19.28%.(NHFS-5 Survey) I'll leave the debate with these stats.. No matter how much anyone hates the achievements, India is progressive and improving every year.. And that's from perspective of an Indian citizen, not a foreign visitor.. An anover fing Since we are quoting statistics can you explain why The Foreign, Commonwealth and Development Office (FCDO), which distributes aid, sent India £33.4 million in aid cash in 2022/23. But the FCDO's annual report, published this week, reveals that the total is set to rise to £58m for that period............so in effect the Funded over half the cost to land on the moon! If not hate then what would u call all ur false claims and bad mouthing India? To highlight ur claims of 'aid'- "One spokesperson from FCDO categorically highlighted that the UK has given no financial aid to the Indian government since 2015. The spokesperson said, “Since 2015 the UK has given no financial aid to the government of India. Most of our funding now is focused on business investments which help create new markets and jobs for the UK, as well as India. UK investments are also helping tackle shared challenges such as climate change.” This is from the guardian and the telegraph.. Clearly, UK aid to India is only to be in good books for better economical deals.. It's UK who's investing in India rather than India asking for aid from UK.. And if u are so much worried about where ur money is going, then why does UK still spend £86.3 million per year on the maintainance of a useless Royal family? With so much poverty in UK why do u still spend so much on them? Can I ask how much aid the UK received from India in the last 10 years? Pushing against an open door on royalty Bash! That said it’s bit odd a criticism of a monarchy from one who is exposing the virtues of a country that still has a caste system. My profession is construction and have recently been Dispur looking at some horrific building practices and saw firsthand the squalor some ordinary folk have to suffer. I contend still that putting right some home grown problems is preferable to playing at space cowboys!" If u can read, its clearly mentioned above, but I'll post it again: "The Guardian published a report in March 2023, which quoted the UK’s Foreign Office spokesperson as saying, “Since 2015 the UK has given no financial aid to the government of India. Most of our funding now is focused on business investments which help create new markets and jobs for the UK, as well as India. UK investments are also helping tackle shared challenges such as climate change.” Given that UK’s economy today is mired in miseries and needs India’s helping hand for coming back to life, London uses this investment to deepen its ties with New Delhi and seek the much-awaited trade deals. All in all, UK’s “aid” to India is nothing but a desperate attempt to keep India in good humour to reap economic dividends." Dispur is the NorthEast region which is still work in progress.. As I said, no country is perfect but India in progressing. Good example is having foreign experts like you in remote places to improve infrastructure. And that money is from the economic growth, not from your aid.. You still didn't answer why UK wasting so much money on Royal family when more than 22% Brits are below poverty rate? Look into your own back yard 1st.. | |||
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"And speaking of caste system, biggest example of caste system is the Royal family because only the Royal blood can become the monarch, and not anyone from the commons.. Brits practice this discrimination themselves and then have audacity to speak about the caste system which had a totally different historic context before British exploitation of the same to divide the country to maintain their rule.." You are talking utter nonsense. | |||
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"And speaking of caste system, biggest example of caste system is the Royal family because only the Royal blood can become the monarch, and not anyone from the commons.. Brits practice this discrimination themselves and then have audacity to speak about the caste system which had a totally different historic context before British exploitation of the same to divide the country to maintain their rule.. You are talking utter nonsense." No, it's you who are talking non sense when out of answer to a straight-forward question. Why do Brits spend so much on Royal family if they are questioning India on spending over space program? Surely the poverty rate is much worse in UK than India. And hypocrisy that only a Royal blood can become a monarch and not a commoner, such a big discrimination, but you still try to call out India on caste system.. As I said, no country is perfect but India doesn't hate on others like UK is doing right now.. If India has been wasting money on unnecessary things, then India would not have become bigger economy than UK and the poverty rate would not not have reduced so much over last 5-10 years. Even if u don't agree, the results prove that India is doing something right which has given Indian economy such a boost.. | |||
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"And speaking of caste system, biggest example of caste system is the Royal family because only the Royal blood can become the monarch, and not anyone from the commons.. Brits practice this discrimination themselves and then have audacity to speak about the caste system which had a totally different historic context before British exploitation of the same to divide the country to maintain their rule.. You are talking utter nonsense. No, it's you who are talking non sense when out of answer to a straight-forward question. Why do Brits spend so much on Royal family if they are questioning India on spending over space program? Surely the poverty rate is much worse in UK than India. And hypocrisy that only a Royal blood can become a monarch and not a commoner, such a big discrimination, but you still try to call out India on caste system.. As I said, no country is perfect but India doesn't hate on others like UK is doing right now.. If India has been wasting money on unnecessary things, then India would not have become bigger economy than UK and the poverty rate would not not have reduced so much over last 5-10 years. Even if u don't agree, the results prove that India is doing something right which has given Indian economy such a boost.." No doubt the economy of India is booming but its fuelled by appalling working conditions child labour and local government corruption, I have seen it first hand. According to the estimates by International Labour Organisation (ILO), there are about 10.1 million working children between the age of 5 to 14 in India. Since these estimates are made using the 2011 census, the last to be taken in the country, the number is considered higher today. While the economic development undergone by India in the last few decades can hardly be ignored, neither can the poverty still prevalent in the country. The main and most prominent reason behind children being forced into work and away from education is poverty. For many poor families in India who are struggling to meet their basic needs, seeking employment for their children is a means to more income. With roots in poverty, the problem of child labour only worsens when coupled with illiteracy, lack of access to decent jobs, lack of awareness and other related factors. That’s where part of the boom comes from! Putting hardware on the moon are politically motivated vanity projects I stand by my opinion that the cost of the moon landing could have been spent wiser and more intelligently. Nothing you say or hypothesise will change that opinion. | |||
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"And speaking of caste system, biggest example of caste system is the Royal family because only the Royal blood can become the monarch, and not anyone from the commons.. Brits practice this discrimination themselves and then have audacity to speak about the caste system which had a totally different historic context before British exploitation of the same to divide the country to maintain their rule.. You are talking utter nonsense. No, it's you who are talking non sense when out of answer to a straight-forward question. Why do Brits spend so much on Royal family if they are questioning India on spending over space program? Surely the poverty rate is much worse in UK than India. And hypocrisy that only a Royal blood can become a monarch and not a commoner, such a big discrimination, but you still try to call out India on caste system.. As I said, no country is perfect but India doesn't hate on others like UK is doing right now.. If India has been wasting money on unnecessary things, then India would not have become bigger economy than UK and the poverty rate would not not have reduced so much over last 5-10 years. Even if u don't agree, the results prove that India is doing something right which has given Indian economy such a boost.. No doubt the economy of India is booming but its fuelled by appalling working conditions child labour and local government corruption, I have seen it first hand. According to the estimates by International Labour Organisation (ILO), there are about 10.1 million working children between the age of 5 to 14 in India. Since these estimates are made using the 2011 census, the last to be taken in the country, the number is considered higher today. While the economic development undergone by India in the last few decades can hardly be ignored, neither can the poverty still prevalent in the country. The main and most prominent reason behind children being forced into work and away from education is poverty. For many poor families in India who are struggling to meet their basic needs, seeking employment for their children is a means to more income. With roots in poverty, the problem of child labour only worsens when coupled with illiteracy, lack of access to decent jobs, lack of awareness and other related factors. That’s where part of the boom comes from! Putting hardware on the moon are politically motivated vanity projects I stand by my opinion that the cost of the moon landing could have been spent wiser and more intelligently. Nothing you say or hypothesise will change that opinion. " I do not deny all the issues you raised against India. As I said, no country is perfect.. But you sir, are conveniently avoiding to confront your own issues by trying to throw mud on India.. Not once have you answered to my question straight.. Escapism is a very old defence when you have no answers.. UK shouldn't talk about poverty in India when their own poverty rate is lower than India. As mentioned earlier, UK has been investing in Indian markets to help save their own economy, so for all that child labour boosting economy rant, UK is an equal contributor.. As I've already mentioned earlier, there has been a fall in poverty rate over last few years. What do you suggest? To leave everything that grows economy and distribute all of the national wealth to population? Will that eradicate poverty or creating more projects and jobs will? It's the brain washed Brits who think that this is a mere vanity project or politically motivated project. Don't change your mind, just don't spread hatred as you are doing right now, that's all.. | |||
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