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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

First to land near Moon's south pole.

Fantastic

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By *exanthemMan
over a year ago

North


"First to land near Moon's south pole.

Fantastic "

Congratulations to all Indians!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"First to land near Moon's south pole.

Fantastic

Congratulations to all Indians! "

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fair play, maybe it could now help towards the mass poverty in such a beautiful country that has suffered for as long as I’ve been alive

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

India's Chandrayaan-3 has made history by becoming the first spacecraft to successfully land on the moon's south pole.

Good news.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"India's Chandrayaan-3 has made history by becoming the first spacecraft to successfully land on the moon's south pole.

Good news.

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I agree but stand by my statement.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wait for the manned missions

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Fair play, maybe it could now help towards the mass poverty in such a beautiful country that has suffered for as long as I’ve been alive "

We've poverty here in our own country, in fact all over the World there's poverty.

Until everyone unites and shows kindness to address prioritising these issues, we will continue to have poverty.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Fair play, maybe it could now help towards the mass poverty in such a beautiful country that has suffered for as long as I’ve been alive

We've poverty here in our own country, in fact all over the World there's poverty.

Until everyone unites and shows kindness to address prioritising these issues, we will continue to have poverty."

Again I’m not disagreeing or trying to cast a shadow over India’s achievement but although poverty is worldwide some are worse than others.

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By *nightsoftheCoffeeTableCouple
over a year ago

Leeds

India ? As in the country ? Have put a rocket on the moon ?

fair play

The mr

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By *esley_CTV/TS
over a year ago

Edinburgh

I wonder why they want to land a rocket on the moon?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"India's Chandrayaan-3 has made history by becoming the first spacecraft to successfully land on the moon's south pole.

Good news.

I agree but stand by my statement. "

You're entitled to your opinion, but to project negative remark speaks volumes.

Learn to be happy in celebrating good achievement and look past country, etc.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"India's Chandrayaan-3 has made history by becoming the first spacecraft to successfully land on the moon's south pole.

Good news.

I agree but stand by my statement.

You're entitled to your opinion, but to project negative remark speaks volumes.

Learn to be happy in celebrating good achievement and look past country, etc."

I don’t see my opinion as negative at all, it’s great news but…………?

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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago

Travelling

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well done…

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By *adCherriesCouple
over a year ago

Cheshire/Northwest

Congratulations to India! The UK gave India 2.3 billion pounds worth of aid between 2016 and 2021 and we continue to do so. Money well spent..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Fair play, maybe it could now help towards the mass poverty in such a beautiful country that has suffered for as long as I’ve been alive

We've poverty here in our own country, in fact all over the World there's poverty.

Until everyone unites and shows kindness to address prioritising these issues, we will continue to have poverty.

Again I’m not disagreeing or trying to cast a shadow over India’s achievement but although poverty is worldwide some are worse than others. "

Its good to have socialist views and try to help the poor.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Congratulations to India! The UK gave India 2.3 billion pounds worth of aid between 2016 and 2021 and we continue to do so. Money well spent.."

A Foreign Office spokesperson said: “Since 2015 the UK has given no financial aid to the government of India. Most of our funding now is focused on business investments which help create new markets and jobs for the UK, as well as India. UK investments are also helping tackle shared challenges such as climate change.”

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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago

East London

A great achievement.

Let's wait to see what they find there now.

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By *uksungCouple
over a year ago

wednesbury

It's disgusting when the country is in such poverty and no our poverty is not on the same scale as India. The Development Office (FCDO), which distributes aid, sent India £33.4 million in aid cash in 2022/23. But the FCDO's annual report, published this week, reveals that the total is set to rise to £57 million in 2024/25.18 Jul 2023. If you defned this money being spent then you are simply fools

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By *adCherriesCouple
over a year ago

Cheshire/Northwest


"Congratulations to India! The UK gave India 2.3 billion pounds worth of aid between 2016 and 2021 and we continue to do so. Money well spent..

A Foreign Office spokesperson said: “Since 2015 the UK has given no financial aid to the government of India. Most of our funding now is focused on business investments which help create new markets and jobs for the UK, as well as India. UK investments are also helping tackle shared challenges such as climate change.”"

Dressed up as business investment but still aid which obviously they no longer need.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"India's Chandrayaan-3 has made history by becoming the first spacecraft to successfully land on the moon's south pole.

Good news.

I agree but stand by my statement.

You're entitled to your opinion, but to project negative remark speaks volumes.

Learn to be happy in celebrating good achievement and look past country, etc.

I don’t see my opinion as negative at all, it’s great news but…………?"

From science and exploration standpoint, the Moon landing sits at the table of humankind's greatest achievements...

For a country like India to be the first to do it speaks volumes. Good on them or any other country had they managed to succeed. Russia tried but failed and yet they were one of the first to congratulate India.

The fact you divert topic on the subject of poverty is somewhat in poor taste and unnecessary.

Still, you are entitled to your opinion.

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By *exanthemMan
over a year ago

North


"Congratulations to India! The UK gave India 2.3 billion pounds worth of aid between 2016 and 2021 and we continue to do so. Money well spent.."

You give money to charities and NGOs to help in spreading Christianity. India does not need UKs money, keep it here and open more and more food bank and build more houses to help those in need.

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By *exanthemMan
over a year ago

North


"It's disgusting when the country is in such poverty and no our poverty is not on the same scale as India. The Development Office (FCDO), which distributes aid, sent India £33.4 million in aid cash in 2022/23. But the FCDO's annual report, published this week, reveals that the total is set to rise to £57 million in 2024/25.18 Jul 2023. If you defned this money being spent then you are simply fools

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Please keep UKs money here in UK, india does not ask for it. You just keep sending it unnecessarily.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"It's disgusting when the country is in such poverty and no our poverty is not on the same scale as India. The Development Office (FCDO), which distributes aid, sent India £33.4 million in aid cash in 2022/23. But the FCDO's annual report, published this week, reveals that the total is set to rise to £57 million in 2024/25.18 Jul 2023. If you defned this money being spent then you are simply fools

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Perspective...!

Will not divert from the magnificent (space exploration) achievement India has made. India now joins the Soviet Union, United States and China as only the fourth country to achieve this milestone. Amazing.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"India ? As in the country ? Have put a rocket on the moon ?

fair play

The mr "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's disgusting when the country is in such poverty and no our poverty is not on the same scale as India. The Development Office (FCDO), which distributes aid, sent India £33.4 million in aid cash in 2022/23. But the FCDO's annual report, published this week, reveals that the total is set to rise to £57 million in 2024/25.18 Jul 2023. If you defned this money being spent then you are simply fools

Perspective...!

Will not divert from the magnificent (space exploration) achievement India has made. India now joins the Soviet Union, United States and China as only the fourth country to achieve this milestone. Amazing."

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By *a LunaWoman
over a year ago

South Wales

Everytime I hear of someone doing something in space I now just think of all the space rubbish that is flying around the place or left behind.

Not content with ruining our own planet with rubbish we are now taking that intergalactic (that may not be the right term but humour me). We’re selfish fuckers really. I bet there are Aliens in Space who facepalm everytime they see a rocket take off from Earth.

Quick, someone take this soapbox away from me!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I wonder why they want to land a rocket on the moon? "

A bit like Mallory purportedly replied, "Because it's there.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Congratulations to India! The UK gave India 2.3 billion pounds worth of aid between 2016 and 2021 and we continue to do so. Money well spent..

A Foreign Office spokesperson said: “Since 2015 the UK has given no financial aid to the government of India. Most of our funding now is focused on business investments which help create new markets and jobs for the UK, as well as India. UK investments are also helping tackle shared challenges such as climate change.”

Dressed up as business investment but still aid which obviously they no longer need."

Are you accusing the British government of being liars and socialists..?

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By *ttmcdguyTV/TS
over a year ago

Milton Keynes

Good on them

I heard this on the radio today

And was slightly miffed as to what there mission is all about

Let me explain

They are there to examine ice that has been discovered on the moons South Pole to see if it’s drinkable!

Top marks to them

Except

To my knowledge the moon has no gravity due to lack of oxygen and gravitational pull

Is Ice not frozen H2O (hydrogen &oxygen!)?

So how is there ice?

Don’t get me started about the 1st moon landing and the flag blowing in the wind !!

I do believe there are lies being told to us mere sheeple but I can’t work out who or why

I know I sound like a conspiracy theorist I’m not honest but somethings don’t add up

If there is ice there then there is water and then obviously oxygen! Which would then explain the flag blowing in the wind etc…

And how exactly did the original Luna take off ? The rockets need oxygen to burn and at the rate they needed no way would they have been able to carry it in that little landing craft that I saw in museum when I was a kid!!

I’m not saying I’m right but I’m definitely not wrong with

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Everytime I hear of someone doing something in space I now just think of all the space rubbish that is flying around the place or left behind.

Not content with ruining our own planet with rubbish we are now taking that intergalactic (that may not be the right term but humour me). We’re selfish fuckers really. I bet there are Aliens in Space who facepalm everytime they see a rocket take off from Earth.

Quick, someone take this soapbox away from me! "

You're sooo right, we are the disease. We are incapable of 1). getting on with each other because of our indifferences, 2). incapable of projecting kindness without expectations 3). selfish species, 4). driven by greed rap ing mother nature of its natural resources, polluting the land, air and water we rely on to live, 5)....

List is endless

We need to get our planet in order first, before fucking up another...

Agree.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Congratulations to India! The UK gave India 2.3 billion pounds worth of aid between 2016 and 2021 and we continue to do so. Money well spent.."

I really don't think you want to start a debate on what India have taken from the UK...

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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago

East London


"I wonder why they want to land a rocket on the moon?

A bit like Mallory purportedly replied, "Because it's there."

For scientific study of the elements they think are there.

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By *oveallMan
over a year ago

kells

Better things to spend it on . like the poor in India ..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Better things to spend it on . like the poor in India .. "

Would like to remind people that the UK were doing exactly the same thing. While colonizing half the world and celebrating their industrial revolution, many were living in abject poverty well below the breadline. Those in glasshouses

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Better things to spend it on . like the poor in India .. "

UK has a lot of poverty, people unable to heat their homes and homeless but spent in excess of £160 million on a funeral.

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By *azza72Man
over a year ago

Leeds

South Pole my arse, where was the fecking snow? And not a penguin in sight

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's disgusting when the country is in such poverty and no our poverty is not on the same scale as India. The Development Office (FCDO), which distributes aid, sent India £33.4 million in aid cash in 2022/23. But the FCDO's annual report, published this week, reveals that the total is set to rise to £57 million in 2024/25.18 Jul 2023. If you defned this money being spent then you are simply fools

Perspective...!

Will not divert from the magnificent (space exploration) achievement India has made. India now joins the Soviet Union, United States and China as only the fourth country to achieve this milestone. Amazing."

As well as being one of five nations with fission-fusion nuclear weapons which cost trillions of rupee to develop and deploy.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I'm somewhat upset at reading some of the comments; it seems some of us we either don't understand and or want to learn from history.

Seems like pride is always fucking with us.

I'm a British male of Indian ethnicity, but take no pride in either because there are plenty bad English and there are plenty bad Indians. In fact, it's the same all over the World.

If only we could look past the colour of our nationality, colour of skin, religion, gender, etc. Compassion knowing we are all the same "human beings".

I realise I maybe niaive in my thinking, but live in hope that someday we will all be able to get along with each other and not live in the past, but build a better kinder future for whole of mankind. The kind is what's missing at present.

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By *uksungCouple
over a year ago

wednesbury

Nothing todo with ethnicity or imperialistic ambitions I could care less who goes to space as long as it's used for good. The fact people pull this card then they have lost the plot. They have people starving and then launch space crafts it's ridiculous

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By *oveallMan
over a year ago

kells

Nanna Moon ....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Nothing todo with ethnicity or imperialistic ambitions I could care less who goes to space as long as it's used for good. The fact people pull this card then they have lost the plot. They have people starving and then launch space crafts it's ridiculous "

Nice to know you could care less

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By *asycouple1971Couple
over a year ago

midlands

Whats on the moon? Why land a spacecraft there unless you are bringing some lifeform back?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Nothing todo with ethnicity or imperialistic ambitions I could care less who goes to space as long as it's used for good. The fact people pull this card then they have lost the plot. They have people starving and then launch space crafts it's ridiculous "

We live in hope sis.

If they can land on the moon , then I hope that they can address end the suffering of people in need of help.

Not just India, but all over the World. Incl. us here in UK.

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By *tylebender03Man
over a year ago

Manchester

Congrats to them, it’s an impressive achievement. Don’t underestimate them. They also want to be a Superpower. Ashoka’s 9 unknown men

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By *ichaelsmyMan
over a year ago

douglas

can we stop sending financial aid to india now?

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By *layer oneMan
over a year ago

mirfield

I take it they no longer need our 57 million in aid every year now

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

This achievement is not only a historic step to India but for mankind.

It brings us all hope that we can achieve great things if we are determined enough to make it happen.

Hope is a marvelous thing.

We hope for a better future for each and everyone of us, if we don't then we are well and truly fucked.

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By *tylebender03Man
over a year ago

Manchester


"Congratulations to India! The UK gave India 2.3 billion pounds worth of aid between 2016 and 2021 and we continue to do so. Money well spent..

I really don't think you want to start a debate on what India have taken from the UK..."

Mic drop

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Am I only one finding irony in the same people who on hand are shouting about poverty in India being the same ones very anti aid..

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By *exanthemMan
over a year ago

North


"can we stop sending financial aid to india now?"

Yeah do it immediately and also tell the world how much Brtish Raj looted from India. During the East India Company's control of the Indian market, Indian producers were paid for exports of their goods by the company from the taxes it raised from India itself. In effect, it was importing Indian goods for free. Later under the British Crown, foreign buyers of Indian goods paid with Bills of Exchange which could be bought with gold or British currency. Indian exporters were paid from one-third of the taxes Britain collected in India and then transferred to London. Effectively, Indian export income stayed in Britain and what Indians got in lieu of exports were the money they had paid as taxes to the British government in India. This meant the huge export income instead of being invested in India was being used by Britain to fund the expansion of its own regime and as investment in building infrastructure in the US and Europe. Since India ran a large trade surplus with the rest of the world, its export income could have funded a large-scale industrialisation which was happening in Japan at that time. In addition to this drain of wealth, Britain made profits by further exporting the goods imported from India at a far higher price, and it funded its wars as well as the huge colonial administration from taxes collected in India. the drain for four periods between 1765 and 1938, Taking the mid-point of each of these periods and then compounding the amount at a rate of interest of 5 percent, lower than the market rate, to the present, it was a cumulative figure of £9.2 trillion which is nearly equal to $45 trillion. we have not even touched here upon the £2.55 billion of war-time spending by Allied forces in SouthAsia, which was unjustly charged to the Indian revenues, was raised by rapid profit inflation, and claimed 3 million civilian lives in Bengal through extreme demand compression

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By *esi_maverickMan
over a year ago

Solihull


"can we stop sending financial aid to india now?

Yeah do it immediately and also tell the world how much Brtish Raj looted from India. During the East India Company's control of the Indian market, Indian producers were paid for exports of their goods by the company from the taxes it raised from India itself. In effect, it was importing Indian goods for free. Later under the British Crown, foreign buyers of Indian goods paid with Bills of Exchange which could be bought with gold or British currency. Indian exporters were paid from one-third of the taxes Britain collected in India and then transferred to London. Effectively, Indian export income stayed in Britain and what Indians got in lieu of exports were the money they had paid as taxes to the British government in India. This meant the huge export income instead of being invested in India was being used by Britain to fund the expansion of its own regime and as investment in building infrastructure in the US and Europe. Since India ran a large trade surplus with the rest of the world, its export income could have funded a large-scale industrialisation which was happening in Japan at that time. In addition to this drain of wealth, Britain made profits by further exporting the goods imported from India at a far higher price, and it funded its wars as well as the huge colonial administration from taxes collected in India. the drain for four periods between 1765 and 1938, Taking the mid-point of each of these periods and then compounding the amount at a rate of interest of 5 percent, lower than the market rate, to the present, it was a cumulative figure of £9.2 trillion which is nearly equal to $45 trillion. we have not even touched here upon the £2.55 billion of war-time spending by Allied forces in SouthAsia, which was unjustly charged to the Indian revenues, was raised by rapid profit inflation, and claimed 3 million civilian lives in Bengal through extreme demand compression"

Wtf

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This achievement is not only a historic step to India but for mankind.

It brings us all hope that we can achieve great things if we are determined enough to make it happen.

Hope is a marvelous thing.

We hope for a better future for each and everyone of us, if we don't then we are well and truly fucked."

Not sure what exactly you think is hopeful about dropping more trash on the moon, sixty years ago sure but now?

Would rather see the money spent on feeding a nation that regularly has massive humanitarian disasters

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By *esi_maverickMan
over a year ago

Solihull

Great achievement for us Indians may we continue to achieve more success in the future

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"This achievement is not only a historic step to India but for mankind.

It brings us all hope that we can achieve great things if we are determined enough to make it happen.

Hope is a marvelous thing.

We hope for a better future for each and everyone of us, if we don't then we are well and truly fucked.

Not sure what exactly you think is hopeful about dropping more trash on the moon, sixty years ago sure but now?

Would rather see the money spent on feeding a nation that regularly has massive humanitarian disasters"

We are but small minds, and need to realise the significance of this achievement.

Already explained poverty is global scale, not just India alone. Only when we all unite and prioritise what's really important in this World will we be able to strive for a better future.

In London alone, the amount of homeless I see on the street asking for money, food, etc. is bewildering.

Many a times I help donate what little I have like but them food or give my water bottle.

They all have a story to tell and most are very nice people who've just encountered bad luck in their life, could happen to anyone of us.

No getting away from poverty. How many can we help? We can but try.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Great achievement for us Indians may we continue to achieve more success in the future "

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By *esi_maverickMan
over a year ago

Solihull


"Great achievement for us Indians may we continue to achieve more success in the future

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Appreciate the support

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"can we stop sending financial aid to india now?

Yeah do it immediately and also tell the world how much Brtish Raj looted from India. During the East India Company's control of the Indian market, Indian producers were paid for exports of their goods by the company from the taxes it raised from India itself. In effect, it was importing Indian goods for free. Later under the British Crown, foreign buyers of Indian goods paid with Bills of Exchange which could be bought with gold or British currency. Indian exporters were paid from one-third of the taxes Britain collected in India and then transferred to London. Effectively, Indian export income stayed in Britain and what Indians got in lieu of exports were the money they had paid as taxes to the British government in India. This meant the huge export income instead of being invested in India was being used by Britain to fund the expansion of its own regime and as investment in building infrastructure in the US and Europe. Since India ran a large trade surplus with the rest of the world, its export income could have funded a large-scale industrialisation which was happening in Japan at that time. In addition to this drain of wealth, Britain made profits by further exporting the goods imported from India at a far higher price, and it funded its wars as well as the huge colonial administration from taxes collected in India. the drain for four periods between 1765 and 1938, Taking the mid-point of each of these periods and then compounding the amount at a rate of interest of 5 percent, lower than the market rate, to the present, it was a cumulative figure of £9.2 trillion which is nearly equal to $45 trillion. we have not even touched here upon the £2.55 billion of war-time spending by Allied forces in SouthAsia, which was unjustly charged to the Indian revenues, was raised by rapid profit inflation, and claimed 3 million civilian lives in Bengal through extreme demand compression

Wtf "

If the aforementioned shocked you, then read the book written by Dr Shashi Tharoor "Inglorious Empire, What the British Did to India"

Crazy we cannot let go of the past and all get along with each other. Pride fucks it all up.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I take it they no longer need our 57 million in aid every year now "

If it means you'll pay back the literal trillions, sure

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Thread has been derailed by negativity, sadly expected it to be the case; because some of us are incapable of enjoying others happiness.

We lose sight of the core subject matter and seem to relish in trying to take comfort in causing ill feeling.

Human nature, we are riddled with fault.

So why is it, we human beings are incapable of being honourable and kind towards each other?

Why not take comfort in simply being happy for others achievements of success.

...pride, greed, envy, lust, anger, etc. is always at play.

Is there any hope for mankind, I wonder?

War is inevitable it seems.

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By *oubleswing2019Man
over a year ago

Colchester

A fantastic achievement. Every mission to space, whether successful or not, by any country, is a further step along for humanity's destiny in the stars.

It broadens, deepens and contributes to our understanding of space, and brings our manifest destiny as space farers one little step closer.

We are living on a planet with finite resources. Until new technologies emerge which help us achieve alternative resources at an industrial scale, we are in risky territory.

Space is risky too...but the opportunities for extra-solar exploitation of minerals and other resources are practically infinite.

Sure, you could argue we have trashed this world. But there are billions of dead worlds out there. We're not going to run out of resource in a hurry. At least not in the lifespan of this particular universe.

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By *esi_maverickMan
over a year ago

Solihull


"A fantastic achievement. Every mission to space, whether successful or not, by any country, is a further step along for humanity's destiny in the stars.

It broadens, deepens and contributes to our understanding of space, and brings our manifest destiny as space farers one little step closer.

We are living on a planet with finite resources. Until new technologies emerge which help us achieve alternative resources at an industrial scale, we are in risky territory.

Space is risky too...but the opportunities for extra-solar exploitation of minerals and other resources are practically infinite.

Sure, you could argue we have trashed this world. But there are billions of dead worlds out there. We're not going to run out of resource in a hurry. At least not in the lifespan of this particular universe.

"

Finally someone who understands the concept

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"I take it they no longer need our 57 million in aid every year now

If it means you'll pay back the literal trillions, sure "

Kinda sad this sort of thing is being thrown around (the comment you replied to) on today of all days. I wonder if India chose today specifically?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/aug/22/uk-cannot-ignore-calls-for-slávery-reparations-says-leading-un-judge-patrick-robinson

Before copying the link, one will have to edit the 'a' in slávery in the URL.

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over a year ago


"Everytime I hear of someone doing something in space I now just think of all the space rubbish that is flying around the place or left behind.

Not content with ruining our own planet with rubbish we are now taking that intergalactic (that may not be the right term but humour me). We’re selfish fuckers really. I bet there are Aliens in Space who facepalm everytime they see a rocket take off from Earth.

... "

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By *exanthemMan
over a year ago

North


"Everytime I hear of someone doing something in space I now just think of all the space rubbish that is flying around the place or left behind.

Not content with ruining our own planet with rubbish we are now taking that intergalactic (that may not be the right term but humour me). We’re selfish fuckers really. I bet there are Aliens in Space who facepalm everytime they see a rocket take off from Earth.

Quick, someone take this soapbox away from me! "

Please first worry more about the British waste that is sent to other countries. Dump every little waste that you make here in this country..no UK won’t do it, isn’t it? Analysis of official government trade data shows that the top three export countries for the UK's plastic waste in 2020 were Turkey (209,642 tonnes – 39%), Malaysia (65,000 tonnes – 12%) and Poland (38,000 tonnes – 7%). Yuyun Ismawati, an activist with Indonesian environmental group Nexus3 Foundation, said: “It is disturbing to see that the UK wishes to continue its waste management malpractice using developing countries as dumping grounds. In Indonesia, we have documented large amounts of imported UK plastic waste dumped and burned in farming communities by substandard recyclers who can only actually recycle a small percentage of the waste.”

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By *ostindreamsMan
over a year ago

London

Lots of misconceptions in the thread.

About India "wasting money" on the space research program. Indian space research organisation(ISRO) has been profitable for sometime. The cost of this launch was 70M USD. For comparison, the budget of Martian film was higher - 105M USD. In the last 5 years, ISRO made about 260M dollars in Forex alone by providing launch vehicles for satellites made by other countries. These kind of launches help with its reputation and actually generate money for the country in the long run.

About the aid that India is receiving, India is officially a net donor now. India donates more money than it receives. Sure UK can stop its aid, but it won't affect much. At this point, UK is providing the aid purely because it's useful to maintain a good trade relationship with one of the fastest growing economy.

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By *tylebender03Man
over a year ago

Manchester

We are in the early stages of space exploration. There’s a infinite galaxy out there. There’s a lot things as a human race we can learn from it. Why wouldn’t we venture into space

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By *ubforspanksMan
over a year ago

Sefton

Have they really landed on the moon or is this like the USA moon landing filmed on a movie set lol,

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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago

East London


"We are in the early stages of space exploration. There’s a infinite galaxy out there. There’s a lot things as a human race we can learn from it. Why wouldn’t we venture into space "

We may need the minerals floating around on meteors some day, and the moon could be a good place to refuel exploration craft.

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By *ostindreamsMan
over a year ago

London


"We are in the early stages of space exploration. There’s a infinite galaxy out there. There’s a lot things as a human race we can learn from it. Why wouldn’t we venture into space "

+1 Space is huuuuuuge. We are probably overestimating ourselves if we think we are going to trash it.

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By *exanthemMan
over a year ago

North


"Have they really landed on the moon or is this like the USA moon landing filmed on a movie set lol, "

Yeah it is mate lol..

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By *odgerMooreMan
over a year ago

Carlisle

Congratulations to India on a great success regardless of domestic issues. The UK wont be far behind once we find a milk bottle big enough to launch our rocket from!!

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By *exanthemMan
over a year ago

North


"We are in the early stages of space exploration. There’s a infinite galaxy out there. There’s a lot things as a human race we can learn from it. Why wouldn’t we venture into space

+1 Space is huuuuuuge. We are probably overestimating ourselves if we think we are going to trash it."

+1 let’s be proud of this moment but let’s hope ISRO will not sit on its laurels and convert this opportunity into something that is beneficial for humans survival.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Thread has been derailed by negativity, sadly expected it to be the case; because some of us are incapable of enjoying others happiness.

We lose sight of the core subject matter and seem to relish in trying to take comfort in causing ill feeling.

Human nature, we are riddled with fault.

So why is it, we human beings are incapable of being honourable and kind towards each other?

Why not take comfort in simply being happy for others achievements of success.

...pride, greed, envy, lust, anger, etc. is always at play.

Is there any hope for mankind, I wonder?

War is inevitable it seems."

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By *opinovMan
over a year ago

Point Nemo, Cumbria

Putler will be fuming hence a cat got kicked.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"First to land near Moon's south pole.

Fantastic "

Paneer Take aways coming some time soon.

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By *ttmcdguyTV/TS
over a year ago

Milton Keynes


"Everytime I hear of someone doing something in space I now just think of all the space rubbish that is flying around the place or left behind.

Not content with ruining our own planet with rubbish we are now taking that intergalactic (that may not be the right term but humour me). We’re selfish fuckers really. I bet there are Aliens in Space who facepalm everytime they see a rocket take off from Earth.

Quick, someone take this soapbox away from me!

Please first worry more about the British waste that is sent to other countries. Dump every little waste that you make here in this country..no UK won’t do it, isn’t it? Analysis of official government trade data shows that the top three export countries for the UK's plastic waste in 2020 were Turkey (209,642 tonnes – 39%), Malaysia (65,000 tonnes – 12%) and Poland (38,000 tonnes – 7%). Yuyun Ismawati, an activist with Indonesian environmental group Nexus3 Foundation, said: “It is disturbing to see that the UK wishes to continue its waste management malpractice using developing countries as dumping grounds. In Indonesia, we have documented large amounts of imported UK plastic waste dumped and burned in farming communities by substandard recyclers who can only actually recycle a small percentage of the waste.”"

Absolute tosh fake news

YOU ARE MAD

Ever heard the phrase there’s brass in shit !

They do not dump anything !

They sell it ! To the country’s you mentioned who then recycle it

Possibly because we don’t have enough facilities to recycle the amount of waste we as a country produce

What that country does with it is entirely there business

But believe me when I say there isn’t a country on this rock that would willingly allow another country to dump waste in

Oh except for the uk that is who let European owned uk based water companies dump hundreds of thousands of tonnes of raw sewage into the uk surrounding seas !

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe


"First to land near Moon's south pole.

Fantastic "

Personally, I find it abhorrent that a country with so much abject poverty are wasting money on a "space program"

Cal

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By *irralmatureMan
over a year ago

Wirral

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If they sort out poverty, inequality, misogynistic sex crimes and pollution then I'd be impressed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If they sort out poverty, inequality, misogynistic sex crimes and pollution then I'd be impressed."

Which country are you talking about?

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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago

Peterborough

How many Indians are now looking at their poppadoms at arm's length and holing them up to the sky, with a large dollop of collective pride.

This sounds like a marketing campaign, waiting to happen "limited edition silvery poppadoms"

Well done to all involved.

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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago

Peterborough


"If they sort out poverty, inequality, misogynistic sex crimes and pollution then I'd be impressed.

Which country are you talking about? "

The US?

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By *esi_maverickMan
over a year ago

Solihull


"If they sort out poverty, inequality, misogynistic sex crimes and pollution then I'd be impressed."

Is that all you say about India but can’t give any gratitude for what they’ve achieved how many other nations besides the ones that have already been to space can you quote???

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By *exanthemMan
over a year ago

North


"First to land near Moon's south pole.

Fantastic

Personally, I find it abhorrent that a country with so much abject poverty are wasting money on a "space program"

Cal"

That’s is a problem but problems do exist here as well, may be at a different scale. Does that mean government should stop all the development work and spend its last penny in public welfare until it eradicates the problem, and then when you run out of money then what? Become beggars in front of IMF or World bank?? You got to understand the fundamental, that is money is needed to make more money, if it is not there, you cannot offer what you currently offering in welfare. India is taking pragmatic approach and is rising and with this rise every year millions of Indians are rising above poverty line. World needs to stay patient and don’t start judging the motives of Government of India, it will show the world what governance mean when it comes to helping poor, thay have shown it when Covid hit them. When entire west was showering it’s people with helicopter money, india ensure that no one goes to bed hungry, they did not offer cash but offer food and shelter, that helped India, the problem that you are seeing here with rising inflation, does not exist in India at this scale. Additionally india is ensuring that people know a skill or two so that they can earn their bread and pass that skill on to next generation. Where west restricts a unstructured businesses, india promotes it, you can find them in every nook and corner of the street, that helps a lot of people in elevating their lifestyle. So the indian growth story is super strong, but yes, with size and scale of India, it will take some time but eventually india will be there..plus they are one of the major investors in UK economy. Please check the stats..this will help UK a lot in long run..that is a reason why UK wants trade deal with India, entire whisky industry will boom in here in UK the day they get free trade deal.

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By *ostindreamsMan
over a year ago

London


"First to land near Moon's south pole.

Fantastic

Personally, I find it abhorrent that a country with so much abject poverty are wasting money on a "space program"

Cal"

As I mentioned above, India's space program has generated over 260M USD in the last 5 years by carrying satellites for other countries. The cost of this lunar mission is 70M USD. The space program is not wasted money as many people on here claim without doing due research.

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

Well done India I say.

Fantastic achievement I do like science

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By *esi_maverickMan
over a year ago

Solihull


"Well done India I say.

Fantastic achievement I do like science "

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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago

Peterborough


"First to land near Moon's south pole.

Fantastic

Personally, I find it abhorrent that a country with so much abject poverty are wasting money on a "space program"

Cal

As I mentioned above, India's space program has generated over 260M USD in the last 5 years by carrying satellites for other countries. The cost of this lunar mission is 70M USD. The space program is not wasted money as many people on here claim without doing due research. "

Just think how much money is generated from satellite television and the related industries.

Oh yeah, this year's score to the moon.

India 1

Russia 0

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By *ostindreamsMan
over a year ago

London


"First to land near Moon's south pole.

Fantastic

Personally, I find it abhorrent that a country with so much abject poverty are wasting money on a "space program"

Cal

As I mentioned above, India's space program has generated over 260M USD in the last 5 years by carrying satellites for other countries. The cost of this lunar mission is 70M USD. The space program is not wasted money as many people on here claim without doing due research.

Just think how much money is generated from satellite television and the related industries.

Oh yeah, this year's score to the moon.

India 1

Russia 0"

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By *esi_maverickMan
over a year ago

Solihull

Honestly some of the responses on this thread are really disappointing why can’t anyone just appreciate what they have achieved

But yet can’t get people to understand what’s been achieved

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I wonder why they want to land a rocket on the moon? "

Hopefully to send all the TGirls and me there for a huge party!

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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago

Peterborough

Should the headlines read "Over the moon" or "under it"?

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By *ornucopiaMan
over a year ago

Bexley

Totally pointless waste of money and resources. I would have hoped that Indians would have been more philosophical and less competitive.

The likely reason why anyone really wants to go to the moon is to stop others building bases there and pointing missiles at rival nations. Or maybe to plunder minerals.

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By *r.PleasureMan
over a year ago

London


"If they sort out poverty, inequality, misogynistic sex crimes and pollution then I'd be impressed.

Which country are you talking about? "

Sounds like a torrie UK he’s talking about

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By *ostindreamsMan
over a year ago

London


"Totally pointless waste of money and resources. I would have hoped that Indians would have been more philosophical and less competitive.

The likely reason why anyone really wants to go to the moon is to stop others building bases there and pointing missiles at rival nations. Or maybe to plunder minerals."

For the third time I am saying in this thread. It is not a waste of money. The ISRO had been profitable.

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By *emma HoldenTV/TS
over a year ago

Ramsey


"I wonder why they want to land a rocket on the moon? "

Cos the super rich think they can pay to escape & live on once we've wrecked earth while the peasants starve & burn. However they forget that they will also die cos there will be no supply missions to keep them alive. Finding enough stuff on the moon or Mars to support greedy humans who exploit everything until they destroy it is doomed to fail.

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By *hagTonightMan
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.

Congratulations and well done india

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By *eathrow pineappleCouple
over a year ago

West London

Glad to see they're not wasting their money.

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By *exanthemMan
over a year ago

North


"Glad to see they're not wasting their money. "

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By *esi_maverickMan
over a year ago

Solihull

Nice to see some appreciation posts

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"First to land near Moon's south pole.

Fantastic

Personally, I find it abhorrent that a country with so much abject poverty are wasting money on a "space program"

Cal

That’s is a problem but problems do exist here as well, may be at a different scale. Does that mean government should stop all the development work and spend its last penny in public welfare until it eradicates the problem, and then when you run out of money then what? Become beggars in front of IMF or World bank?? You got to understand the fundamental, that is money is needed to make more money, if it is not there, you cannot offer what you currently offering in welfare. India is taking pragmatic approach and is rising and with this rise every year millions of Indians are rising above poverty line. World needs to stay patient and don’t start judging the motives of Government of India, it will show the world what governance mean when it comes to helping poor, thay have shown it when Covid hit them. When entire west was showering it’s people with helicopter money, india ensure that no one goes to bed hungry, they did not offer cash but offer food and shelter, that helped India, the problem that you are seeing here with rising inflation, does not exist in India at this scale. Additionally india is ensuring that people know a skill or two so that they can earn their bread and pass that skill on to next generation. Where west restricts a unstructured businesses, india promotes it, you can find them in every nook and corner of the street, that helps a lot of people in elevating their lifestyle. So the indian growth story is super strong, but yes, with size and scale of India, it will take some time but eventually india will be there..plus they are one of the major investors in UK economy. Please check the stats..this will help UK a lot in long run..that is a reason why UK wants trade deal with India, entire whisky industry will boom in here in UK the day they get free trade deal.

"

Very well explained.

...and we sometimes forget the scalability.

India is about 13 times bigger than United Kingdom. UK is approximately 243,610 sq km, while India is approximately 3,287,263 sq km, making India 1,249% larger than United Kingdom.

Progress in any nation is always good to see.

...and we know strength has always been in unity not division.

Here in UK we seem to concentrate more on the division than unity which is why we are always behind the game.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Totally pointless waste of money and resources. I would have hoped that Indians would have been more philosophical and less competitive.

The likely reason why anyone really wants to go to the moon is to stop others building bases there and pointing missiles at rival nations. Or maybe to plunder minerals."

Making progress is never deemed to be a waste of money.

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By *ilfCrumpet9Man
over a year ago

Wirral

1.4 billion wasted on ppe that was unusable and was destroyed by the government and this figure varies. What a waste when people are using food banks and sleeping rough.

My opinion by the way

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The stench of racism and envy is very strong on this thread. If it was a ethically different country which achieved this we would never have a problem.

Seems if India was like a lot of other developing countries. Eg constant coups and asking for aid. These people would be happy. Then they could claim their ethical superiority.

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe


"First to land near Moon's south pole.

Fantastic

Personally, I find it abhorrent that a country with so much abject poverty are wasting money on a "space program"

Cal

As I mentioned above, India's space program has generated over 260M USD in the last 5 years by carrying satellites for other countries. The cost of this lunar mission is 70M USD. The space program is not wasted money as many people on here claim without doing due research. "

And how many 100s of billions has it taken to get to the point that they're making a profit.

According to official figures, over 60% of Indian citizens survive on less than $3.10 per day, and a third of them are achieving less that $2. That's 1.6 billion people who are living on £20 per week...Nearly half of the Indian urban population actually live in "Slums". In a country where temperatures are high and hygiene is challenging only 11% of the population has a fridge.

Surely the Billions that have been spent on a space project would have been better directed at building social housing and improving infrastructure such as water management systems, the electricity grid, communications, transport, etc...

Cal

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"Fair play, maybe it could now help towards the mass poverty in such a beautiful country that has suffered for as long as I’ve been alive "

There is a lot of poverty in America, Russia and Britain too.

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By *ostindreamsMan
over a year ago

London


"First to land near Moon's south pole.

Fantastic

Personally, I find it abhorrent that a country with so much abject poverty are wasting money on a "space program"

Cal

As I mentioned above, India's space program has generated over 260M USD in the last 5 years by carrying satellites for other countries. The cost of this lunar mission is 70M USD. The space program is not wasted money as many people on here claim without doing due research.

And how many 100s of billions has it taken to get to the point that they're making a profit.

According to official figures, over 60% of Indian citizens survive on less than $3.10 per day, and a third of them are achieving less that $2. That's 1.6 billion people who are living on £20 per week...Nearly half of the Indian urban population actually live in "Slums". In a country where temperatures are high and hygiene is challenging only 11% of the population has a fridge.

Surely the Billions that have been spent on a space project would have been better directed at building social housing and improving infrastructure such as water management systems, the electricity grid, communications, transport, etc...

Cal "

100s of billion? The maximum annual budget that has ever gone into this organisation is just 1B and that's very recent. It's less than 0.5% of overall budget. And this is seen more as an investment than a vanity project.

The £20 you mentioned equals 2k rupees per week. Food in India is a way more cheaper compared to UK. That's the reason the threshold for poverty line is lower.

According to world bank data, the % of people living under extreme poverty dropped from close to 60% in 1980 to about 11% in 2019. The percentage is still going down. And using fridge as a way to measure poverty in India is not correct. Frozen food is not a common thing there. Most streets have small shops closeby where you can buy fresh vegetables for cheap. My parents hardly had their fridge running.

Overall, India has been making a lot of progress when it comes to eradicate poverty. ISRO is a technological investment. Majority vote of the population, even the poor people, are proud of the achievements like moon landing. The organisation also works on a low budget. Not sure why people here are being disappointed about this.

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By *AYENCouple
over a year ago

Lincolnshire


"India's Chandrayaan-3 has made history by becoming the first spacecraft to successfully land on the moon's south pole.

Good news.

I agree but stand by my statement.

You're entitled to your opinion, but to project negative remark speaks volumes.

Learn to be happy in celebrating good achievement and look past country, etc.

I don’t see my opinion as negative at all, it’s great news but…………?

From science and exploration standpoint, the Moon landing sits at the table of humankind's greatest achievements...

For a country like India to be the first to do it speaks volumes. Good on them or any other country had they managed to succeed. Russia tried but failed and yet they were one of the first to congratulate India.

The fact you divert topic on the subject of poverty is somewhat in poor taste and unnecessary.

Still, you are entitled to your opinion."

Of course Russia was the first to congratulate them, India is one of the few countries supporting their aggression against Ukraine!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

To my knowledge the moon has no gravity due to lack of oxygen and gravitational pull

"

Your knowledge is wrong.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"

To my knowledge the moon has no gravity due to lack of oxygen and gravitational pull

Your knowledge is wrong.

"

It is made of cheese though right?

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By *exanthemMan
over a year ago

North


"India's Chandrayaan-3 has made history by becoming the first spacecraft to successfully land on the moon's south pole.

Good news.

I agree but stand by my statement.

You're entitled to your opinion, but to project negative remark speaks volumes.

Learn to be happy in celebrating good achievement and look past country, etc.

I don’t see my opinion as negative at all, it’s great news but…………?

From science and exploration standpoint, the Moon landing sits at the table of humankind's greatest achievements...

For a country like India to be the first to do it speaks volumes. Good on them or any other country had they managed to succeed. Russia tried but failed and yet they were one of the first to congratulate India.

The fact you divert topic on the subject of poverty is somewhat in poor taste and unnecessary.

Still, you are entitled to your opinion.

Of course Russia was the first to congratulate them, India is one of the few countries supporting their aggression against Ukraine!"

Germany funded Russia’s war. In the first two months after the start of Russia’s assault on Ukraine, Germany was estimated to have paid nearly €8.3bn for Russian energy – money used by Moscow to prop up the rouble and buy the artillery shells firing at Ukrainian positions in Donetsk. In that time, EU countries estimated to have paid a total of €39bn for Russian energy, more than double the sum they had given to help Ukraine defend itself. For thirty years, Germans lectured Ukrainians about fascism, When fascism actually arrived, Germans funded it, and Ukrainians died fighting it.If India funded Russia oil was funding the war... Tell me then buying Russian gas by Europe was not funding the war? It's only Indian money and Russian oil coming to India funded the war and not Russia's gas coming to Europe not funded ? Let's be a little even-handed. Europe bought oil, Europe was buying gas...new package of sanctions, it was designed in a way that consideration had been given to the welfare of the population, pipeline had carve-outs... if Europe could be considerate to itself, they could be considerate to other people. If Europe managed it in a way that impact on the economy was not traumatic, that freedom should exist for other people as well…right?

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By *exanthemMan
over a year ago

North

The truth is that, in large part, india’s poverty is a result of decades of colonial rule which systematically plundered the wealth of an entire subcontinent. Yet the most valuable possession taken away from India is not the Kohinoor Diamond but India’s pride & belief in its own capabilities. Because the goal of colonisation—its most insidious impact—is to convince its victims of their inferiority. Which is why investing in BOTH public welfare AND space exploration is not a contradiction. what going to the moon does for India is that it helps restore Indian pride & self-confidence. It creates belief in progress through science. It gives India the aspiration to lift themselves out of poverty. The greatest poverty is the poverty of aspiration…

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By *ostindreamsMan
over a year ago

London


"India's Chandrayaan-3 has made history by becoming the first spacecraft to successfully land on the moon's south pole.

Good news.

I agree but stand by my statement.

You're entitled to your opinion, but to project negative remark speaks volumes.

Learn to be happy in celebrating good achievement and look past country, etc.

I don’t see my opinion as negative at all, it’s great news but…………?

From science and exploration standpoint, the Moon landing sits at the table of humankind's greatest achievements...

For a country like India to be the first to do it speaks volumes. Good on them or any other country had they managed to succeed. Russia tried but failed and yet they were one of the first to congratulate India.

The fact you divert topic on the subject of poverty is somewhat in poor taste and unnecessary.

Still, you are entitled to your opinion.

Of course Russia was the first to congratulate them, India is one of the few countries supporting their aggression against Ukraine!"

India did not support. They just decided to not speak against Russia simply because India didn't have a choice. India has been dependent on Russia for both weapons and energy. Why did that happen? Because US sanctioned India for building nuclear weapons and took Pakistan's side historically. And Russia offered to help India at that point. India is now building better relationship with US and is moving away from dependence on Russia. But it will be awhile before they can just go against Russia.

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By *AYENCouple
over a year ago

Lincolnshire


"Fair play, maybe it could now help towards the mass poverty in such a beautiful country that has suffered for as long as I’ve been alive

There is a lot of poverty in America, Russia and Britain too. "

Poverty-stricken Indians are often really hard working, even the little tinchys, as there isn't the welfare support that there is in the US, UK & RU.

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"The truth is that, in large part, india’s poverty is a result of decades of colonial rule which systematically plundered the wealth of an entire subcontinent. Yet the most valuable possession taken away from India is not the Kohinoor Diamond but India’s pride & belief in its own capabilities. Because the goal of colonisation—its most insidious impact—is to convince its victims of their inferiority. Which is why investing in BOTH public welfare AND space exploration is not a contradiction. what going to the moon does for India is that it helps restore Indian pride & self-confidence. It creates belief in progress through science. It gives India the aspiration to lift themselves out of poverty. The greatest poverty is the poverty of aspiration…"

On a more practical note is is a development of technology and technical knowledge that will reap long term benefits.

The Apollo programme was atthe time the most expensive project ever. In the years since the returns generated which are directly attributable to that project have massively outstripped the initial cost (in real terms).

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India is a successfulky developing economy. Projects like this will allow India to continue its progtess from developing to developed.

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Long term benefits

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By *AYENCouple
over a year ago

Lincolnshire


"

Of course Russia was the first to congratulate them, India is one of the few countries supporting their aggression against Ukraine!

India did not support. They just decided to not speak against Russia simply because India didn't have a choice. India has been dependent on Russia for both weapons and energy. Why did that happen? Because US sanctioned India for building nuclear weapons and took Pakistan's side historically. And Russia offered to help India at that point. India is now building better relationship with US and is moving away from dependence on Russia. But it will be awhile before they can just go against Russia."

I think you'll find most of Europe was dependent on Russia for their energy too. But we made the right choice, which is often the harder choice, to support Ukraine at a huge financial burden rather than spend billions on a pointless trip to the moon.

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By *ister_ee_1981Man
over a year ago

Sunniest Exeter...


"Good on them

I heard this on the radio today

And was slightly miffed as to what there mission is all about

Let me explain

They are there to examine ice that has been discovered on the moons South Pole to see if it’s drinkable!

Top marks to them

Except

To my knowledge the moon has no gravity due to lack of oxygen and gravitational pull

Is Ice not frozen H2O (hydrogen &oxygen!)?

So how is there ice?

Don’t get me started about the 1st moon landing and the flag blowing in the wind !!

I do believe there are lies being told to us mere sheeple but I can’t work out who or why

I know I sound like a conspiracy theorist I’m not honest but somethings don’t add up

If there is ice there then there is water and then obviously oxygen! Which would then explain the flag blowing in the wind etc…

And how exactly did the original Luna take off ? The rockets need oxygen to burn and at the rate they needed no way would they have been able to carry it in that little landing craft that I saw in museum when I was a kid!!

I’m not saying I’m right but I’m definitely not wrong with

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I also thought there was a decent chunk of Helium 3. Which based on our tech level would be a "shortcut" to a fusion energy solution. Basically it's far easier to fuse helium 3 to generate clean, near limitless power, rather that Hydrogen. (spoken as an armchair enthusiast!)

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By *ashMan
over a year ago

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Congrats to India and ISRO..

UK is unable to sustain their economy even after centuries of looting colonies, and here we have India who was brutally exploited by UK and still has a profitable space program.. Even NASA collaborated with India for this mission because they know that they can't achieve it in such economical and precise way.

People talking about poverty and money? Your satellites are up there because of these 'waste of money' projects.. These projects bring jobs to locals and to Indian scientists.. All these people talking about poverty should know that UK is the reason for that poverty in India.. And Indians are the reason why your countries are having an economy, lol..

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over a year ago

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By *ashMan
over a year ago

Westhoughton


"First to land near Moon's south pole.

Fantastic

Personally, I find it abhorrent that a country with so much abject poverty are wasting money on a "space program"

Cal

As I mentioned above, India's space program has generated over 260M USD in the last 5 years by carrying satellites for other countries. The cost of this lunar mission is 70M USD. The space program is not wasted money as many people on here claim without doing due research.

And how many 100s of billions has it taken to get to the point that they're making a profit.

According to official figures, over 60% of Indian citizens survive on less than $3.10 per day, and a third of them are achieving less that $2. That's 1.6 billion people who are living on £20 per week...Nearly half of the Indian urban population actually live in "Slums". In a country where temperatures are high and hygiene is challenging only 11% of the population has a fridge.

Surely the Billions that have been spent on a space project would have been better directed at building social housing and improving infrastructure such as water management systems, the electricity grid, communications, transport, etc...

Cal "

1st, it's not billions spent, is just a tiny fraction of national budget.. Also, ISRO is profitable in itself..

2nd, India is the 4th largest economy in the world and rising, ahead of UK which is 7th and declining..

There r more percentage of people in UK living of benefits than people in India living in poverty.. This, despite the brutality of UK colonization in India..

In urban cities in India, you can survive with less than £100 a month (of course not a luxurious life, but in no way a homeless or food less one either) because cost of living is less than in UK.. For example, you can get unlimited Indian thali (full meal with chapati, rice and veggies) for less than £1 and the restaurant is still in profit. Can u imagine to sustain the same in UK? So, your figures may be correct in numbers but in no way it reflects the cost of living..

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By *AYENCouple
over a year ago

Lincolnshire


"Congrats to India and ISRO..

UK is unable to sustain their economy even after centuries of looting colonies, and here we have India who was brutally exploited by UK and still has a profitable space program.. Even NASA collaborated with India for this mission because they know that they can't achieve it in such economical and precise way.

People talking about poverty and money? Your satellites are up there because of these 'waste of money' projects.. These projects bring jobs to locals and to Indian scientists.. All these people talking about poverty should know that UK is the reason for that poverty in India.. And Indians are the reason why your countries are having an economy, lol..

"

I guess if we got rid of free education for our children, got rid of the NHS, got rid of our welfare programs etc. etc. we too could fly to the moon, whoopee!

It wasn't only the UK that colonised many parts of the world, it was most of Europe - it's strange how many of those countries that were brutally colonised now support the brutal colonisation of Ukraine!

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

Great, it's been achieved but as for research wouldn't it be more sensible to research your own planet first poverty, homeless before spending huge amount of money on another projects

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By *iscoman7771000Man
over a year ago

birmingham

Totally agree

What about all the the starving people

All women should be sterilised after giving birth

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By *ashMan
over a year ago

Westhoughton


"Congrats to India and ISRO..

UK is unable to sustain their economy even after centuries of looting colonies, and here we have India who was brutally exploited by UK and still has a profitable space program.. Even NASA collaborated with India for this mission because they know that they can't achieve it in such economical and precise way.

People talking about poverty and money? Your satellites are up there because of these 'waste of money' projects.. These projects bring jobs to locals and to Indian scientists.. All these people talking about poverty should know that UK is the reason for that poverty in India.. And Indians are the reason why your countries are having an economy, lol..

I guess if we got rid of free education for our children, got rid of the NHS, got rid of our welfare programs etc. etc. we too could fly to the moon, whoopee!

It wasn't only the UK that colonised many parts of the world, it was most of Europe - it's strange how many of those countries that were brutally colonised now support the brutal colonisation of Ukraine! "

Strange how a country which had biggest colonies in Asia for over 200 years is comparing and crying about 'colonization' in Ukraine of about 2 years..

Again, Russia is not supported by India but this war is Europe's problem. Has UK opposed China and Pakistan over problems caused by them at Indian border?

Talking about ur education and NHS, then why do u have to bring so many overseas doctors and nurses to fill up ur NHS posts? Ur NHS is running only because of overseas health professionals and they are better trained than your UK ones. And before u ask, they come over because there's high competition in their own country while it's easier to get into NHS due to huge shortage..

Also, Indian education and health care system is same as USA unlike UK.. So people can actually afford to pay for their health unlike waiting ages for an appointment in NHS UK..

You need scientists and people who can put effort to excel, unlike yourself who's only looking down on other's achievements..

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By *ashMan
over a year ago

Westhoughton


"Great, it's been achieved but as for research wouldn't it be more sensible to research your own planet first poverty, homeless before spending huge amount of money on another projects "

Only a bit of research and you would find that there's a lot more contribution on the planet as well before India got to space.. India didn't just wake up one and thought of going to moon and ignore the ground issues..

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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago

Travelling

This is simply fucking hilarious.

Gotta love the good old back and forth. "my dad can beat your dad"

Both countries are shit holes in their own ways. Blaming the other back and forth endlessly just to try and get the last word in.

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By *exanthemMan
over a year ago

North


"Congrats to India and ISRO..

UK is unable to sustain their economy even after centuries of looting colonies, and here we have India who was brutally exploited by UK and still has a profitable space program.. Even NASA collaborated with India for this mission because they know that they can't achieve it in such economical and precise way.

People talking about poverty and money? Your satellites are up there because of these 'waste of money' projects.. These projects bring jobs to locals and to Indian scientists.. All these people talking about poverty should know that UK is the reason for that poverty in India.. And Indians are the reason why your countries are having an economy, lol..

I guess if we got rid of free education for our children, got rid of the NHS, got rid of our welfare programs etc. etc. we too could fly to the moon, whoopee!

It wasn't only the UK that colonised many parts of the world, it was most of Europe - it's strange how many of those countries that were brutally colonised now support the brutal colonisation of Ukraine! "

What a myopic point of view!! - so you think india does not have Welfare system in place?? You talk about NHS, What is the lead time here for a doctors appointment? And also the lead time to get any operation done?? Free education is a bs, someone is funding your child’s education..unless you don’t pay taxes. There is no free lunches in this world. Someone always pays for it.

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By *exanthemMan
over a year ago

North


"This is simply fucking hilarious.

Gotta love the good old back and forth. "my dad can beat your dad"

Both countries are shit holes in their own ways. Blaming the other back and forth endlessly just to try and get the last word in."

No sir, one is getting into shithole and other one is coming out..that’s a difference

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By *ashMan
over a year ago

Westhoughton


"This is simply fucking hilarious.

Gotta love the good old back and forth. "my dad can beat your dad"

Both countries are shit holes in their own ways. Blaming the other back and forth endlessly just to try and get the last word in."

It was a simple appreciation post.. If only it was left to that..

But some people still look down on Indians and think shit about the country they know little about.. if only people would be less racist towards Indians and educate themselves about the achievements so far instead of negative comments..

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By *ostindreamsMan
over a year ago

London


"Congrats to India and ISRO..

UK is unable to sustain their economy even after centuries of looting colonies, and here we have India who was brutally exploited by UK and still has a profitable space program.. Even NASA collaborated with India for this mission because they know that they can't achieve it in such economical and precise way.

People talking about poverty and money? Your satellites are up there because of these 'waste of money' projects.. These projects bring jobs to locals and to Indian scientists.. All these people talking about poverty should know that UK is the reason for that poverty in India.. And Indians are the reason why your countries are having an economy, lol..

I guess if we got rid of free education for our children, got rid of the NHS, got rid of our welfare programs etc. etc. we too could fly to the moon, whoopee!

It wasn't only the UK that colonised many parts of the world, it was most of Europe - it's strange how many of those countries that were brutally colonised now support the brutal colonisation of Ukraine! "

What an ignorant comment! India has free healthcare. India has free education. University costs in India are much more cheaper than in UK. If you are coming from deprived background, the most of the costs are subsidised. That's the reason why Western countries need more of Indian workforce.

UK also has a space agency. Why is UK wasting money on space agency when there are so many homeless people in the country?

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By *ostindreamsMan
over a year ago

London


"

Of course Russia was the first to congratulate them, India is one of the few countries supporting their aggression against Ukraine!

India did not support. They just decided to not speak against Russia simply because India didn't have a choice. India has been dependent on Russia for both weapons and energy. Why did that happen? Because US sanctioned India for building nuclear weapons and took Pakistan's side historically. And Russia offered to help India at that point. India is now building better relationship with US and is moving away from dependence on Russia. But it will be awhile before they can just go against Russia.

I think you'll find most of Europe was dependent on Russia for their energy too. But we made the right choice, which is often the harder choice, to support Ukraine at a huge financial burden rather than spend billions on a pointless trip to the moon. "

You can make these choices if you don't have neighbours breathing down your neck to attack you any time.

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle


"Great, it's been achieved but as for research wouldn't it be more sensible to research your own planet first poverty, homeless before spending huge amount of money on another projects

Only a bit of research and you would find that there's a lot more contribution on the planet as well before India got to space.. India didn't just wake up one and thought of going to moon and ignore the ground issues.."

Slightly less research you'd find out each year their are charity events for things like famine, people unable to receive fresh drinking water the list gooooooooes on this is around the globe but going to the moon is a priority for I/we did it people are dying from malnutrition but that's ok

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By *ostindreamsMan
over a year ago

London


"Great, it's been achieved but as for research wouldn't it be more sensible to research your own planet first poverty, homeless before spending huge amount of money on another projects

Only a bit of research and you would find that there's a lot more contribution on the planet as well before India got to space.. India didn't just wake up one and thought of going to moon and ignore the ground issues..

Slightly less research you'd find out each year their are charity events for things like famine, people unable to receive fresh drinking water the list gooooooooes on this is around the globe but going to the moon is a priority for I/we did it people are dying from malnutrition but that's ok "

Why is UK spending money on space program when there are homeless?

ISRO is an investment and not a vanity project. It has already given lots of financial returns. Would you rather have a country stand on its own feet, build projects like these to have a sustainable revenue model and develop? Or would you prefer them begging for free money all the time?

In case you don't know, India became a net donor when it comes to foreign aid about 5 years back.

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle


"Great, it's been achieved but as for research wouldn't it be more sensible to research your own planet first poverty, homeless before spending huge amount of money on another projects

Only a bit of research and you would find that there's a lot more contribution on the planet as well before India got to space.. India didn't just wake up one and thought of going to moon and ignore the ground issues..

Slightly less research you'd find out each year their are charity events for things like famine, people unable to receive fresh drinking water the list gooooooooes on this is around the globe but going to the moon is a priority for I/we did it people are dying from malnutrition but that's ok

Why is UK spending money on space program when there are homeless?

ISRO is an investment and not a vanity project. It has already given lots of financial returns. Would you rather have a country stand on its own feet, build projects like these to have a sustainable revenue model and develop? Or would you prefer them begging for free money all the time?

In case you don't know, India became a net donor when it comes to foreign aid about 5 years back."

Because their priorities are just that people don't matter they are just their to pay tax once you're unable to youre not important. People can refuse to accept and say please can you sort out your own problems first before offering to help another country whom are responsible

As you say, India has loads of famine but never a priority just like many other countries even USA

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle


"Great, it's been achieved but as for research wouldn't it be more sensible to research your own planet first poverty, homeless before spending huge amount of money on another projects

Only a bit of research and you would find that there's a lot more contribution on the planet as well before India got to space.. India didn't just wake up one and thought of going to moon and ignore the ground issues..

Slightly less research you'd find out each year their are charity events for things like famine, people unable to receive fresh drinking water the list gooooooooes on this is around the globe but going to the moon is a priority for I/we did it people are dying from malnutrition but that's ok

Why is UK spending money on space program when there are homeless?

ISRO is an investment and not a vanity project. It has already given lots of financial returns. Would you rather have a country stand on its own feet, build projects like these to have a sustainable revenue model and develop? Or would you prefer them begging for free money all the time?

In case you don't know, India became a net donor when it comes to foreign aid about 5 years back.

Because their priorities are just that people don't matter they are just their to pay tax once you're unable to youre not important. People can refuse to accept and say please can you sort out your own problems first before offering to help another country whom are responsible

As you say, India has loads of famine but never a priority just like many other countries even USA "

Reading online is just that but it never shows the positive side effects of what any amount of money has done because it's always there needing more but who is responsible them us or everyone. peoples priorities lie in the wrong places

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By *ashMan
over a year ago

Westhoughton


"Great, it's been achieved but as for research wouldn't it be more sensible to research your own planet first poverty, homeless before spending huge amount of money on another projects

Only a bit of research and you would find that there's a lot more contribution on the planet as well before India got to space.. India didn't just wake up one and thought of going to moon and ignore the ground issues..

Slightly less research you'd find out each year their are charity events for things like famine, people unable to receive fresh drinking water the list gooooooooes on this is around the globe but going to the moon is a priority for I/we did it people are dying from malnutrition but that's ok "

Add i said, do some research before ranting ignorance.. Slightly less research is actually just simple ignorance of facts.. it's not like moon mission is the only thing India did since independence.. And moon mission is not priority, it is one of the several national projects.. Famine? Greatest one was caused by British during WW2, haven't heard of anything like that ever since.. Unable to receive fresh water? People r still alive and population is growing, right. How do u think one can live if there's no food or water? Malnutrition? That was 20+ years ago.. Obesity is also malnutrition, USA and UK lead in that..

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By *he_Secret_GardenWoman
over a year ago

Naughty Lane


"Wait for the manned missions"

Same...

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By *ostindreamsMan
over a year ago

London


"Great, it's been achieved but as for research wouldn't it be more sensible to research your own planet first poverty, homeless before spending huge amount of money on another projects

Only a bit of research and you would find that there's a lot more contribution on the planet as well before India got to space.. India didn't just wake up one and thought of going to moon and ignore the ground issues..

Slightly less research you'd find out each year their are charity events for things like famine, people unable to receive fresh drinking water the list gooooooooes on this is around the globe but going to the moon is a priority for I/we did it people are dying from malnutrition but that's ok

Why is UK spending money on space program when there are homeless?

ISRO is an investment and not a vanity project. It has already given lots of financial returns. Would you rather have a country stand on its own feet, build projects like these to have a sustainable revenue model and develop? Or would you prefer them begging for free money all the time?

In case you don't know, India became a net donor when it comes to foreign aid about 5 years back.

Because their priorities are just that people don't matter they are just their to pay tax once you're unable to youre not important. People can refuse to accept and say please can you sort out your own problems first before offering to help another country whom are responsible

As you say, India has loads of famine but never a priority just like many other countries even USA "

When was the last famine in India?

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By *hantelle-La-SlutTV/TS
over a year ago

South Birmingham


"India's Chandrayaan-3 has made history by becoming the first spacecraft to successfully land on the moon's south pole.

Good news.

I agree but stand by my statement. "

I agree with you, landing on the moon when they have billion living in such poverty. wrong priorities.

which is the same for so many now

is it a great acheivement yes, is it needed no.

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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago

Travelling


"This is simply fucking hilarious.

Gotta love the good old back and forth. "my dad can beat your dad"

Both countries are shit holes in their own ways. Blaming the other back and forth endlessly just to try and get the last word in.

No sir, one is getting into shithole and other one is coming out..that’s a difference "

And right there is the problem.

Shit slinging from both sides. Both as hypocritical as the other. Despite both trying to be the most righteous. Makes both sides out to be nothing but twatish behaviour in the end.

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By *ashMan
over a year ago

Westhoughton


"India's Chandrayaan-3 has made history by becoming the first spacecraft to successfully land on the moon's south pole.

Good news.

I agree but stand by my statement.

I agree with you, landing on the moon when they have billion living in such poverty. wrong priorities.

which is the same for so many now

is it a great acheivement yes, is it needed no."

Poverty rate in 2023:

UK 22%

India 14%

Largest economy in world:

India 5

UK 6

Also, India's space agency is a profitable organisation and spends less money than a Hollywood movie..

Why would u call a profitable program as 'not needed'? Probably that's why UK economy is going down and India's going up.. Investing in right things goes long way..

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle


"Great, it's been achieved but as for research wouldn't it be more sensible to research your own planet first poverty, homeless before spending huge amount of money on another projects

Only a bit of research and you would find that there's a lot more contribution on the planet as well before India got to space.. India didn't just wake up one and thought of going to moon and ignore the ground issues..

Slightly less research you'd find out each year their are charity events for things like famine, people unable to receive fresh drinking water the list gooooooooes on this is around the globe but going to the moon is a priority for I/we did it people are dying from malnutrition but that's ok

Why is UK spending money on space program when there are homeless?

ISRO is an investment and not a vanity project. It has already given lots of financial returns. Would you rather have a country stand on its own feet, build projects like these to have a sustainable revenue model and develop? Or would you prefer them begging for free money all the time?

In case you don't know, India became a net donor when it comes to foreign aid about 5 years back.

Because their priorities are just that people don't matter they are just their to pay tax once you're unable to youre not important. People can refuse to accept and say please can you sort out your own problems first before offering to help another country whom are responsible

As you say, India has loads of famine but never a priority just like many other countries even USA

When was the last famine in India? "

It's has always been their. You don't need to wait until it's been broadcasted or read in an article seeing is believing. I have many friends around the globe and have done for many many years and hear from the actual person/people which is no different here

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By *ashMan
over a year ago

Westhoughton


"Great, it's been achieved but as for research wouldn't it be more sensible to research your own planet first poverty, homeless before spending huge amount of money on another projects

Only a bit of research and you would find that there's a lot more contribution on the planet as well before India got to space.. India didn't just wake up one and thought of going to moon and ignore the ground issues..

Slightly less research you'd find out each year their are charity events for things like famine, people unable to receive fresh drinking water the list gooooooooes on this is around the globe but going to the moon is a priority for I/we did it people are dying from malnutrition but that's ok

Why is UK spending money on space program when there are homeless?

ISRO is an investment and not a vanity project. It has already given lots of financial returns. Would you rather have a country stand on its own feet, build projects like these to have a sustainable revenue model and develop? Or would you prefer them begging for free money all the time?

In case you don't know, India became a net donor when it comes to foreign aid about 5 years back.

Because their priorities are just that people don't matter they are just their to pay tax once you're unable to youre not important. People can refuse to accept and say please can you sort out your own problems first before offering to help another country whom are responsible

As you say, India has loads of famine but never a priority just like many other countries even USA

When was the last famine in India?

It's has always been their. You don't need to wait until it's been broadcasted or read in an article seeing is believing. I have many friends around the globe and have done for many many years and hear from the actual person/people which is no different here "

Ummm, yes u do need some proof.. U can't just quote hearsay to defend false claims.. U say u have friends around the globe, but I actually live in India few months in an year and have family all over in India. U can't claim to have more local knowledge than me who actually live here, while u can only speculate from ur false assumptions..

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By *ostindreamsMan
over a year ago

London


"Great, it's been achieved but as for research wouldn't it be more sensible to research your own planet first poverty, homeless before spending huge amount of money on another projects

Only a bit of research and you would find that there's a lot more contribution on the planet as well before India got to space.. India didn't just wake up one and thought of going to moon and ignore the ground issues..

Slightly less research you'd find out each year their are charity events for things like famine, people unable to receive fresh drinking water the list gooooooooes on this is around the globe but going to the moon is a priority for I/we did it people are dying from malnutrition but that's ok

Why is UK spending money on space program when there are homeless?

ISRO is an investment and not a vanity project. It has already given lots of financial returns. Would you rather have a country stand on its own feet, build projects like these to have a sustainable revenue model and develop? Or would you prefer them begging for free money all the time?

In case you don't know, India became a net donor when it comes to foreign aid about 5 years back.

Because their priorities are just that people don't matter they are just their to pay tax once you're unable to youre not important. People can refuse to accept and say please can you sort out your own problems first before offering to help another country whom are responsible

As you say, India has loads of famine but never a priority just like many other countries even USA

When was the last famine in India?

It's has always been their. You don't need to wait until it's been broadcasted or read in an article seeing is believing. I have many friends around the globe and have done for many many years and hear from the actual person/people which is no different here "

I spend a month every year in India and what you said is a blatantly false statement.

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By *AYENCouple
over a year ago

Lincolnshire


"Congrats to India and ISRO..

UK is unable to sustain their economy even after centuries of looting colonies, and here we have India who was brutally exploited by UK and still has a profitable space program.. Even NASA collaborated with India for this mission because they know that they can't achieve it in such economical and precise way.

People talking about poverty and money? Your satellites are up there because of these 'waste of money' projects.. These projects bring jobs to locals and to Indian scientists.. All these people talking about poverty should know that UK is the reason for that poverty in India.. And Indians are the reason why your countries are having an economy, lol..

I guess if we got rid of free education for our children, got rid of the NHS, got rid of our welfare programs etc. etc. we too could fly to the moon, whoopee!

It wasn't only the UK that colonised many parts of the world, it was most of Europe - it's strange how many of those countries that were brutally colonised now support the brutal colonisation of Ukraine!

Strange how a country which had biggest colonies in Asia for over 200 years is comparing and crying about 'colonization' in Ukraine of about 2 years..

Again, Russia is not supported by India but this war is Europe's problem. Has UK opposed China and Pakistan over problems caused by them at Indian border?

Talking about ur education and NHS, then why do u have to bring so many overseas doctors and nurses to fill up ur NHS posts? Ur NHS is running only because of overseas health professionals and they are better trained than your UK ones. And before u ask, they come over because there's high competition in their own country while it's easier to get into NHS due to huge shortage..

Also, Indian education and health care system is same as USA unlike UK.. So people can actually afford to pay for their health unlike waiting ages for an appointment in NHS UK..

You need scientists and people who can put effort to excel, unlike yourself who's only looking down on other's achievements.."

You don't seem to understand the difference between historical and present brutalities, India is supporting Russia because they want cheap oil, and justify it as Europe's problem, well it isn't I can assure you - it's having a global impact and it could get worse thanks to India, China and some of Africa.

As I said the only ones that support colonisation are the only ones that complain about it - go figure.

We used to do a lot of business with Indian and Chinese companies - we've stopped that now. I don't know how many other companies are doing similar, but it could have a major impact on their economies in the future.

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By *entlemanrogueMan
over a year ago

Motherwell


"Fair play, maybe it could now help towards the mass poverty in such a beautiful country that has suffered for as long as I’ve been alive "

Exactly, just look at the US, they never launched a rocket until everyone was fed and housed.

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By *hristopherd999Man
over a year ago

Brentwood

Do we not give financial aid to India or am I wrong?

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By *ostindreamsMan
over a year ago

London


"Congrats to India and ISRO..

UK is unable to sustain their economy even after centuries of looting colonies, and here we have India who was brutally exploited by UK and still has a profitable space program.. Even NASA collaborated with India for this mission because they know that they can't achieve it in such economical and precise way.

People talking about poverty and money? Your satellites are up there because of these 'waste of money' projects.. These projects bring jobs to locals and to Indian scientists.. All these people talking about poverty should know that UK is the reason for that poverty in India.. And Indians are the reason why your countries are having an economy, lol..

I guess if we got rid of free education for our children, got rid of the NHS, got rid of our welfare programs etc. etc. we too could fly to the moon, whoopee!

It wasn't only the UK that colonised many parts of the world, it was most of Europe - it's strange how many of those countries that were brutally colonised now support the brutal colonisation of Ukraine!

Strange how a country which had biggest colonies in Asia for over 200 years is comparing and crying about 'colonization' in Ukraine of about 2 years..

Again, Russia is not supported by India but this war is Europe's problem. Has UK opposed China and Pakistan over problems caused by them at Indian border?

Talking about ur education and NHS, then why do u have to bring so many overseas doctors and nurses to fill up ur NHS posts? Ur NHS is running only because of overseas health professionals and they are better trained than your UK ones. And before u ask, they come over because there's high competition in their own country while it's easier to get into NHS due to huge shortage..

Also, Indian education and health care system is same as USA unlike UK.. So people can actually afford to pay for their health unlike waiting ages for an appointment in NHS UK..

You need scientists and people who can put effort to excel, unlike yourself who's only looking down on other's achievements..

You don't seem to understand the difference between historical and present brutalities, India is supporting Russia because they want cheap oil, and justify it as Europe's problem, well it isn't I can assure you - it's having a global impact and it could get worse thanks to India, China and some of Africa.

As I said the only ones that support colonisation are the only ones that complain about it - go figure.

We used to do a lot of business with Indian and Chinese companies - we've stopped that now. I don't know how many other companies are doing similar, but it could have a major impact on their economies in the future."

Are you seriously saying that the West has a moral superiority when it comes to Geopolitics?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

"Exploration is the driving force of mankind.

We have been exploring since the dawn of time, because it is at the centre of everything we do. From birth, we learn through experience and we can make better decisions tomorrow from the information we have unearthed today.

The intangible desire to explore and challenge the boundaries of what we know and where we have been has provided benefits to our society for centuries. Human space exploration helps to address fundamental questions about our place in the Universe and the history of our solar system."

Everyday benefits of space exploration:-

Improving health care. ...

Protecting our planet and our environment. ...

Creating scientific and technical jobs. ...

Improving our day-to-day lives. ...

Enhancing safety on Earth. ...

Making scientific discoveries. ...

Sparking youth's interest in science. ...

Cooperating with countries around the world. ...

I'm somewhat disappointed by bigoted views.

Thread was simply to congratulate India on its historic achievement and we all take joy in that fact, since it's a beacon to us all - in the sense that, we can achieve anything if we set our minds to it (doesn't matter what nationality, etc.)

Will not say anymore on this subject matter.

other than Congrats. India

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By *ashMan
over a year ago

Westhoughton


"Congrats to India and ISRO..

UK is unable to sustain their economy even after centuries of looting colonies, and here we have India who was brutally exploited by UK and still has a profitable space program.. Even NASA collaborated with India for this mission because they know that they can't achieve it in such economical and precise way.

People talking about poverty and money? Your satellites are up there because of these 'waste of money' projects.. These projects bring jobs to locals and to Indian scientists.. All these people talking about poverty should know that UK is the reason for that poverty in India.. And Indians are the reason why your countries are having an economy, lol..

I guess if we got rid of free education for our children, got rid of the NHS, got rid of our welfare programs etc. etc. we too could fly to the moon, whoopee!

It wasn't only the UK that colonised many parts of the world, it was most of Europe - it's strange how many of those countries that were brutally colonised now support the brutal colonisation of Ukraine!

Strange how a country which had biggest colonies in Asia for over 200 years is comparing and crying about 'colonization' in Ukraine of about 2 years..

Again, Russia is not supported by India but this war is Europe's problem. Has UK opposed China and Pakistan over problems caused by them at Indian border?

Talking about ur education and NHS, then why do u have to bring so many overseas doctors and nurses to fill up ur NHS posts? Ur NHS is running only because of overseas health professionals and they are better trained than your UK ones. And before u ask, they come over because there's high competition in their own country while it's easier to get into NHS due to huge shortage..

Also, Indian education and health care system is same as USA unlike UK.. So people can actually afford to pay for their health unlike waiting ages for an appointment in NHS UK..

You need scientists and people who can put effort to excel, unlike yourself who's only looking down on other's achievements..

You don't seem to understand the difference between historical and present brutalities, India is supporting Russia because they want cheap oil, and justify it as Europe's problem, well it isn't I can assure you - it's having a global impact and it could get worse thanks to India, China and some of Africa.

As I said the only ones that support colonisation are the only ones that complain about it - go figure.

We used to do a lot of business with Indian and Chinese companies - we've stopped that now. I don't know how many other companies are doing similar, but it could have a major impact on their economies in the future."

Speaking of present..

This post is about Indian achievement but u guys made it about politics instead of leaving it to appreciation only..

BTW

UK imported £220 million worth oil from Russia since beginning of war..

UK aid to India - £33.4 million

UK aid to Chinna - £48 million

And that aid is less than 0.04% of India's annual budget..

U still do a lot of business with India and China, in fact largely dependent on these countries, which u are ignorant about - go figure.. And even if u can stop trade with India and China, it will only affect UK economy, and not these countries..

Again, there's no support to Russia, but Ukraine war is Europe's problem.. U mau think it has global effect but FYI, world is larger than Europe and clearly it's not affected by Europe's problem and that's why u are talking all this crap begging other nations to help u out of ur crisis..

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"Great, it's been achieved but as for research wouldn't it be more sensible to research your own planet first poverty, homeless before spending huge amount of money on another projects

Only a bit of research and you would find that there's a lot more contribution on the planet as well before India got to space.. India didn't just wake up one and thought of going to moon and ignore the ground issues..

Slightly less research you'd find out each year their are charity events for things like famine, people unable to receive fresh drinking water the list gooooooooes on this is around the globe but going to the moon is a priority for I/we did it people are dying from malnutrition but that's ok

Add i said, do some research before ranting ignorance.. Slightly less research is actually just simple ignorance of facts.. it's not like moon mission is the only thing India did since independence.. And moon mission is not priority, it is one of the several national projects.. Famine? Greatest one was caused by British during WW2, haven't heard of anything like that ever since.. Unable to receive fresh water? People r still alive and population is growing, right. How do u think one can live if there's no food or water? Malnutrition? That was 20+ years ago.. Obesity is also malnutrition, USA and UK lead in that.. "

"Deaths from malnutrition on a large scale have continued across India into modern times. In Maharashtra alone, for example, there were around 45,000 childhood deaths due to mild or severe malnutrition in 2009, according to the Times of India. Another Times of India report in 2010 has stated that 50% of childhood deaths in India are attributable to malnutrition."

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"

Of course Russia was the first to congratulate them, India is one of the few countries supporting their aggression against Ukraine!

India did not support. They just decided to not speak against Russia simply because India didn't have a choice. India has been dependent on Russia for both weapons and energy. Why did that happen? Because US sanctioned India for building nuclear weapons and took Pakistan's side historically. And Russia offered to help India at that point. India is now building better relationship with US and is moving away from dependence on Russia. But it will be awhile before they can just go against Russia.

I think you'll find most of Europe was dependent on Russia for their energy too. But we made the right choice, which is often the harder choice, to support Ukraine at a huge financial burden rather than spend billions on a pointless trip to the moon. "

Im interested in how you arrive at the conclusion "we made the right choice"?

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"This is simply fucking hilarious.

Gotta love the good old back and forth. "my dad can beat your dad"

Both countries are shit holes in their own ways. Blaming the other back and forth endlessly just to try and get the last word in.

It was a simple appreciation post.. If only it was left to that..

But some people still look down on Indians and think shit about the country they know little about.. if only people would be less racist towards Indians and educate themselves about the achievements so far instead of negative comments.."

The irony that... Education is key

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By *ashMan
over a year ago

Westhoughton


"Great, it's been achieved but as for research wouldn't it be more sensible to research your own planet first poverty, homeless before spending huge amount of money on another projects

Only a bit of research and you would find that there's a lot more contribution on the planet as well before India got to space.. India didn't just wake up one and thought of going to moon and ignore the ground issues..

Slightly less research you'd find out each year their are charity events for things like famine, people unable to receive fresh drinking water the list gooooooooes on this is around the globe but going to the moon is a priority for I/we did it people are dying from malnutrition but that's ok

Add i said, do some research before ranting ignorance.. Slightly less research is actually just simple ignorance of facts.. it's not like moon mission is the only thing India did since independence.. And moon mission is not priority, it is one of the several national projects.. Famine? Greatest one was caused by British during WW2, haven't heard of anything like that ever since.. Unable to receive fresh water? People r still alive and population is growing, right. How do u think one can live if there's no food or water? Malnutrition? That was 20+ years ago.. Obesity is also malnutrition, USA and UK lead in that..

"Deaths from malnutrition on a large scale have continued across India into modern times. In Maharashtra alone, for example, there were around 45,000 childhood deaths due to mild or severe malnutrition in 2009, according to the Times of India. Another Times of India report in 2010 has stated that 50% of childhood deaths in India are attributable to malnutrition.""

Malnutrition is endemic to India and leading cause of deaths in under 5s, although it is not neglected and there are govt plans with help on UNICEF.. It remains an issue only in some parts of very rural places. Certainly not as in 2009, 2010..

Infant mortality rate when British left India -145, now - 30.

Life expectancy - 30, now 70.

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By *oveallMan
over a year ago

kells

It only cost 75 million .. Petrol must be well cheap

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By *exanthemMan
over a year ago

North


"Congrats to India and ISRO..

UK is unable to sustain their economy even after centuries of looting colonies, and here we have India who was brutally exploited by UK and still has a profitable space program.. Even NASA collaborated with India for this mission because they know that they can't achieve it in such economical and precise way.

People talking about poverty and money? Your satellites are up there because of these 'waste of money' projects.. These projects bring jobs to locals and to Indian scientists.. All these people talking about poverty should know that UK is the reason for that poverty in India.. And Indians are the reason why your countries are having an economy, lol..

I guess if we got rid of free education for our children, got rid of the NHS, got rid of our welfare programs etc. etc. we too could fly to the moon, whoopee!

It wasn't only the UK that colonised many parts of the world, it was most of Europe - it's strange how many of those countries that were brutally colonised now support the brutal colonisation of Ukraine!

Strange how a country which had biggest colonies in Asia for over 200 years is comparing and crying about 'colonization' in Ukraine of about 2 years..

Again, Russia is not supported by India but this war is Europe's problem. Has UK opposed China and Pakistan over problems caused by them at Indian border?

Talking about ur education and NHS, then why do u have to bring so many overseas doctors and nurses to fill up ur NHS posts? Ur NHS is running only because of overseas health professionals and they are better trained than your UK ones. And before u ask, they come over because there's high competition in their own country while it's easier to get into NHS due to huge shortage..

Also, Indian education and health care system is same as USA unlike UK.. So people can actually afford to pay for their health unlike waiting ages for an appointment in NHS UK..

You need scientists and people who can put effort to excel, unlike yourself who's only looking down on other's achievements..

You don't seem to understand the difference between historical and present brutalities, India is supporting Russia because they want cheap oil, and justify it as Europe's problem, well it isn't I can assure you - it's having a global impact and it could get worse thanks to India, China and some of Africa.

As I said the only ones that support colonisation are the only ones that complain about it - go figure.

We used to do a lot of business with Indian and Chinese companies - we've stopped that now. I don't know how many other companies are doing similar, but it could have a major impact on their economies in the future."

Will never happen - world wants to do business with India, they want free trade deal agreement and you think otherwise, common, when was the last time you visited India?

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over a year ago


"Totally agree

What about all the the starving people

All women should be sterilised after giving birth "

Why not the men?

Its an easier procedure

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By *ornucopiaMan
over a year ago

Bexley


"We are in the early stages of space exploration. There’s a infinite galaxy out there. There’s a lot things as a human race we can learn from it. Why wouldn’t we venture into space "

Why indeed but let's hope that curiosity doesn't kill the cat when spaceexplorers bring back something nasty which wipes out life on earth.

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By *eroLondonMan
over a year ago

Covent Garden

This is all my conjecture... India isn't perfect; its poverty will never be eradicated entirely.

100 million US dollars or whatever it cost for the moon landing is relatively minuscule compared to the billions ££$$ it will/could cost India in eliminating poverty.

The moon landing is mostly about innovation, studious investment, scientific research & development and the drive to to be self-reliant and less dependent on others...so that they can pull themselves out of poverty and abjection.

And the one way they could do that is by monetising the endless patents and expertise they learned and gained during the 'moon landing space programme'.

Here's weak example: Domino's Pizza - they are able maintain the freshness of their pizza's because of the unique 'thermal sleeve' developed, patented and monetised by NASA. Now I'm not suggesting that NASA spent billions so as to allow some poxy company to keep their fast food punters happy and content. But R&D allowed such advances to be made for the preservation of food etc and, perhaps, for heat insulation in other applications.

As I said India isn't perfect. There are things about India that really disappoint me. We're not perfect either: we can't even get the HS2 rail network sorted, let alone organise a piss up in a brewery...which is just as well because so many breweries are closing down...because we cannot organise a piss up in a brewery... ... ...

So congratulations to India. It's a great and enviable achievement.

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By *ashMan
over a year ago

Westhoughton


"It only cost 75 million .. Petrol must be well cheap "

So cheap that UK is importing the Russian oil via India instead of direct purchase from Russia

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"It only cost 75 million .. Petrol must be well cheap

So cheap that UK is importing the Russian oil via India instead of direct purchase from Russia

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Ah those Russians

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By *ostindreamsMan
over a year ago

London


"This is all my conjecture... India isn't perfect; its poverty will never be eradicated entirely.

100 million US dollars or whatever it cost for the moon landing is relatively minuscule compared to the billions ££$$ it will/could cost India in eliminating poverty.

The moon landing is mostly about innovation, studious investment, scientific research & development and the drive to to be self-reliant and less dependent on others...so that they can pull themselves out of poverty and abjection.

And the one way they could do that is by monetising the endless patents and expertise they learned and gained during the 'moon landing space programme'.

Here's weak example: Domino's Pizza - they are able maintain the freshness of their pizza's because of the unique 'thermal sleeve' developed, patented and monetised by NASA. Now I'm not suggesting that NASA spent billions so as to allow some poxy company to keep their fast food punters happy and content. But R&D allowed such advances to be made for the preservation of food etc and, perhaps, for heat insulation in other applications.

As I said India isn't perfect. There are things about India that really disappoint me. We're not perfect either: we can't even get the HS2 rail network sorted, let alone organise a piss up in a brewery...which is just as well because so many breweries are closing down...because we cannot organise a piss up in a brewery... ... ...

So congratulations to India. It's a great and enviable achievement."

Well put! India isn't perfect and has lots of problems. But the country is already making huge strides in fixing the problems. At the same time, it needs to invest for the future and development. The Space research program is one such endeavour which is already bringing in lot of revenue.

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By *ornucopiaMan
over a year ago

Bexley


"The Space research program is one such endeavour which is already bringing in lot of revenue. "

I would have thought that reducing the world population and harnessing free sources of energy would be a simpler and more efficient source of 'revenue'. Or, is revenue something you get from moving money around by creating a space industry?

Wouldn't it be a hell of s lot simpler to grow crops efficiently, have a sustainable fishery, let the sun shine on panels, the wind blow on turbines, rivers and tides generate electricity... or even just become a tax haven?

Going to the moon must rank well down the scale of achieving prosperity efficiently.

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By *exanthemMan
over a year ago

North


"The Space research program is one such endeavour which is already bringing in lot of revenue.

I would have thought that reducing the world population and harnessing free sources of energy would be a simpler and more efficient source of 'revenue'. Or, is revenue something you get from moving money around by creating a space industry?

Wouldn't it be a hell of s lot simpler to grow crops efficiently, have a sustainable fishery, let the sun shine on panels, the wind blow on turbines, rivers and tides generate electricity... or even just become a tax haven?

Going to the moon must rank well down the scale of achieving prosperity efficiently.

"

All what you said is already happening except population control - mate that is a biggest threat to human existence. Entire Europe wants more and more heads to ensure their factories can function, their economy can function. Europeans are failing to produce enough children so is Japan, now in fact China has changed their one child policy. Ask any factory or company owner here about the challenges they face when hiring people - first not enough people are around second they are not well qualified. Indian subcontinent resolve both and give Europe a life line to keep their factories and economies working. You cannot eradicate all the problems but reduce their impact using sustainable approach. Blair era immigration policies where they opened the door for highly skilled migrants would help a lot to UK in next 30/40 yrs time, when offsprings of these highly skilled migrants, who were born and grew up with high education enter the market in next 10 years. Trust me It is going to be a huge advantage for UK.

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By *ashMan
over a year ago

Westhoughton


"The Space research program is one such endeavour which is already bringing in lot of revenue.

I would have thought that reducing the world population and harnessing free sources of energy would be a simpler and more efficient source of 'revenue'. Or, is revenue something you get from moving money around by creating a space industry?

Wouldn't it be a hell of s lot simpler to grow crops efficiently, have a sustainable fishery, let the sun shine on panels, the wind blow on turbines, rivers and tides generate electricity... or even just become a tax haven?

Going to the moon must rank well down the scale of achieving prosperity efficiently.

"

Yes, going to the moon does rank as low priority for India.. That's why ISRO didn't spend as much as others on it.. BTW, just check how much crops are exported out of India, a simple research before commenting goes a long way.. India also produces a lot of hydroelectricity.. Solar heaters for hot water are coming up in lot of places.. And speaking of tax, India still has lower taxes than UK and USA..

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By *ostindreamsMan
over a year ago

London


"The Space research program is one such endeavour which is already bringing in lot of revenue.

I would have thought that reducing the world population and harnessing free sources of energy would be a simpler and more efficient source of 'revenue'. Or, is revenue something you get from moving money around by creating a space industry?

Wouldn't it be a hell of s lot simpler to grow crops efficiently, have a sustainable fishery, let the sun shine on panels, the wind blow on turbines, rivers and tides generate electricity... or even just become a tax haven?

Going to the moon must rank well down the scale of achieving prosperity efficiently.

"

How exactly is one supposed to reduce the world population? Killing everyone? Of course not. Reducing birth rate? We cannot do it unless we have enough automation to make up for the labour loss. Europe and Japan are already facing economic problems because of it. China is on the way too.

About the alternatives, India is also investing in renewable energy. There are many plans in different states to build solar farms and also generate solar power from homes. Same with growing crops efficiently and having sustainable fishing.

Even launching rockets were criticised at that time to be a waste. Then it became a massive business for the country as the rockets started launching other satellites. With lunar research catching up again, they may as well send more missions to moon carrying payloads given by other countries.

These are just economic benefits. Then there is a social benefit too. Events like this inspire the younger generation. Most top people working in the space research came from poor backgrounds. When the younger generation reads about it, they get inspired and become ambitious to achieve more in their life. As a teenager, I was inspired by what ISRO was doing. The positive coming out of that is immeasurable.

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over a year ago


"Congratulations to India! The UK gave India 2.3 billion pounds worth of aid between 2016 and 2021 and we continue to do so. Money well spent..

A Foreign Office spokesperson said: “Since 2015 the UK has given no financial aid to the government of India. Most of our funding now is focused on business investments which help create new markets and jobs for the UK, as well as India. UK investments are also helping tackle shared challenges such as climate change.”"

Always great to get your facts right

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By *exanthemMan
over a year ago

North


"The Space research program is one such endeavour which is already bringing in lot of revenue.

I would have thought that reducing the world population and harnessing free sources of energy would be a simpler and more efficient source of 'revenue'. Or, is revenue something you get from moving money around by creating a space industry?

Wouldn't it be a hell of s lot simpler to grow crops efficiently, have a sustainable fishery, let the sun shine on panels, the wind blow on turbines, rivers and tides generate electricity... or even just become a tax haven?

Going to the moon must rank well down the scale of achieving prosperity efficiently.

How exactly is one supposed to reduce the world population? Killing everyone? Of course not. Reducing birth rate? We cannot do it unless we have enough automation to make up for the labour loss. Europe and Japan are already facing economic problems because of it. China is on the way too.

About the alternatives, India is also investing in renewable energy. There are many plans in different states to build solar farms and also generate solar power from homes. Same with growing crops efficiently and having sustainable fishing.

Even launching rockets were criticised at that time to be a waste. Then it became a massive business for the country as the rockets started launching other satellites. With lunar research catching up again, they may as well send more missions to moon carrying payloads given by other countries.

These are just economic benefits. Then there is a social benefit too. Events like this inspire the younger generation. Most top people working in the space research came from poor backgrounds. When the younger generation reads about it, they get inspired and become ambitious to achieve more in their life. As a teenager, I was inspired by what ISRO was doing. The positive coming out of that is immeasurable."

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By *uksungCouple
over a year ago

wednesbury

Ye climate change like launching rockets and the businesses aimed at the space programme.get in the real world you left wing nuts. Why give any money for anything when they've got a space project. No matter what people say to condem this craziness you'll always say its fantastic to give our hard earned money away and then you moan when we have no money for projects of our own. Look.after our own first amd we have plenty of.problems to sort out.

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
over a year ago

Hastings


"Fair play, maybe it could now help towards the mass poverty in such a beautiful country that has suffered for as long as I’ve been alive "

I'm with you if they can afford to do space and moon landing, why ate people on rubbish tips looking for metal or plastic to sell to feed them self. Have been to India a fair bit and the level of poverty is shocking! If the country can afford space exploration.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Congratulations India, not an easy feat.

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By (user no longer on site)
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"Ye climate change like launching rockets and the businesses aimed at the space programme.get in the real world you left wing nuts. Why give any money for anything when they've got a space project. No matter what people say to condem this craziness you'll always say its fantastic to give our hard earned money away and then you moan when we have no money for projects of our own. Look.after our own first amd we have plenty of.problems to sort out."

Agree with you. I'd rather give my money to Michelle Mone has a fellow Scot...

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