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Dog Liability for Attacks

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

The Spanish will require all dog owners in Spain to have civil liability insurance for their pets. Do we have that here? And if not then why not when dog attacks here appear more frequent and more violent.

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

Dog walkers if they are paid should have

professional liability too but realistically it wouldn’t ever pay out because it’s negligence and you can’t insure that

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By *tephanjMan
over a year ago

Kettering

It's expensive enough just to insure your dogs these days without having to pay liability insurance. I love my dogs and I doubt they would bite anyone.most dog attacks are from aggressive breed dogs that have not been trained properly. Which then down to the owners

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By *essaMayWoman
over a year ago

Fairytale Wood


"The Spanish will require all dog owners in Spain to have civil liability insurance for their pets. Do we have that here? And if not then why not when dog attacks here appear more frequent and more violent. "

Have dog public liability insurance for pooch. Again I always go back to the owners. There has been a big upsurge in dog ownership during covid and now as peoples live return to their normal living - dogs become less significant and relevant neglected/lonely etc they have feelings also.

Saw a poor dog being dragged around by 4-5 year olds like a pull toy, while parents sat round drinking. Wonder why the poor animals turn, always the fault of the dog.

Yes insurance is a good idea and better treatment of the poor fur babies - lets be honest if treated kids like they do dogs be such a scandal - some do and sociopaths are born.

Passionate dog owner

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By *coobyABCMan
over a year ago

Aberdeen


"It's expensive enough just to insure your dogs these days without having to pay liability insurance. I love my dogs and I doubt they would bite anyone.most dog attacks are from aggressive breed dogs that have not been trained properly. Which then down to the owners"

Aggressive dog breeds is a term which really annoys me. Any dog can be aggressive, it's down to poor ownership. Personally it's dogs like westies or similar small dogs that are more likely to be aggressive. As part of my dogs insurance there is a liability element to it so most responsibly dog owners probably do have liability insurance

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By *ndycoinsMan
over a year ago

Whaley Bridge,Nr Buxton,


"It's expensive enough just to insure your dogs these days without having to pay liability insurance. I love my dogs and I doubt they would bite anyone.most dog attacks are from aggressive breed dogs that have not been trained properly. Which then down to the owners

Aggressive dog breeds is a term which really annoys me. Any dog can be aggressive, it's down to poor ownership. Personally it's dogs like westies or similar small dogs that are more likely to be aggressive. As part of my dogs insurance there is a liability element to it so most responsibly dog owners probably do have liability insurance "

Dog attacks are not breed or size specific,it's just attacks by pit bulls etc that get the headlines.It all comes back to stupid/incompetent/don't give a shit owners.The Police are also a part of the problem,when farmers have loose dogs chasing livestock the cops aren't interested,if a farmer speaks to the owners the owners call the cops with all sorts of vindictive false allegations,the cops arrive and the farmer is the bad guy.An opportunity to educate stupid/careless owners lost.Incredibly a lot of cops don't know the law they are supposed to be enforcing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The Spanish will require all dog owners in Spain to have civil liability insurance for their pets. Do we have that here? And if not then why not when dog attacks here appear more frequent and more violent. "

Insurance won't fix chewed up kids, prosecution of the owners will.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think it’s a good idea. Would be like car insurance if everyone had to have it by law, makes everyone and every dog safer

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall

Well if someone’s dog bit my child, I would be bringing a legal action against the owner of the dog.

It would be in the owners best interest to have public liability insurance to prevent themselves from ending up bankrupt due to their pooch maiming someone.

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall


"I think it’s a good idea. Would be like car insurance if everyone had to have it by law, makes everyone and every dog safer "

Compare the pug.com ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think it’s a good idea. Would be like car insurance if everyone had to have it by law, makes everyone and every dog safer

Compare the pug.com ?"

You’re onto something there

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By *essaMayWoman
over a year ago

Fairytale Wood


"Well if someone’s dog bit my child, I would be bringing a legal action against the owner of the dog.

It would be in the owners best interest to have public liability insurance to prevent themselves from ending up bankrupt due to their pooch maiming someone."

Could be a very emotive subject and can see it going ...

well treated and well mannered dog should not bite anyone should be well socialised.

If a well behaved dog is hit with a stick by a misbehaving child, dog bites child - who's at fault and who should be sued?

Owner of the dog that was just defending itself?

Parent of the child that hit the dog.

Ambulance chasing lawyers would have a field day.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"I think it’s a good idea. Would be like car insurance if everyone had to have it by law, makes everyone and every dog safer

Compare the pug.com ?

You’re onto something there "

The premiums would vary with the stats on the aggressive index of the dog eg high premium for these bull dog types

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The Spanish will require all dog owners in Spain to have civil liability insurance for their pets. Do we have that here? And if not then why not when dog attacks here appear more frequent and more violent.

Have dog public liability insurance for pooch. Again I always go back to the owners. There has been a big upsurge in dog ownership during covid and now as peoples live return to their normal living - dogs become less significant and relevant neglected/lonely etc they have feelings also.

Saw a poor dog being dragged around by 4-5 year olds like a pull toy, while parents sat round drinking. Wonder why the poor animals turn, always the fault of the dog.

Yes insurance is a good idea and better treatment of the poor fur babies - lets be honest if treated kids like they do dogs be such a scandal - some do and sociopaths are born.

Passionate dog owner

"

Should have liability insurance and training classes for dog owners and parents.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Insurance won't fix chewed up kids, prosecution of the owners will. "

A couple were sentenced yesterday for not being in control of one of their dogs, which killed their young baby. Despite their prosecution, their child is still dead…. You can’t fix everything!

As an aside to insurance, the lack of insurance cover doesn’t mean you can’t be sued for damages and, as the dog owner you’re potentially liable. You’d just have to sell your assets or go bankrupt if you couldn’t pay the amount awarded.

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By *essaMayWoman
over a year ago

Fairytale Wood

Very passionate subject for me, but in an ideal world good dog ownership and good parenting should never put either in a situation that could result in a tragedy either way, but we don't live in an ideal world.

My first post example - always had dogs and I would never have put my children at that age or my dog in that situation. Frankly just lazy parenting and dog ownership bad mix.

Insurance unfortunately won't replace maimed or killed child, whether it be dog, car, bike or any other tragedy.

The problem is dogs and bad owners are easy targets. Bad or irresponsible parenting not so much.

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall


"Well if someone’s dog bit my child, I would be bringing a legal action against the owner of the dog.

It would be in the owners best interest to have public liability insurance to prevent themselves from ending up bankrupt due to their pooch maiming someone.

Could be a very emotive subject and can see it going ...

well treated and well mannered dog should not bite anyone should be well socialised.

If a well behaved dog is hit with a stick by a misbehaving child, dog bites child - who's at fault and who should be sued?

Owner of the dog that was just defending itself?

Parent of the child that hit the dog.

Ambulance chasing lawyers would have a field day.

"

Yes, that’s true but as the owner of a dog, you’d be liable if you did not have your dog under control.

Whether it was defending itself or not would make no difference.

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By *TG3Man
over a year ago

Dorchester

I'm not an animal lover never had a pet and never would have don't understand how affectionate humans get with pets lol but having said that they seem to love me but i saw a guy with a puppy earlier and the puppy didn't want to walk put the brakes on he wanted to get a move on the guy but every two seconds either an animal lover stopped him or the puppy put the brakes on, i mean if you go abroad what happens to the pet imagine its a nightmare or you just can't go abroad

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By *essaMayWoman
over a year ago

Fairytale Wood


"Well if someone’s dog bit my child, I would be bringing a legal action against the owner of the dog.

It would be in the owners best interest to have public liability insurance to prevent themselves from ending up bankrupt due to their pooch maiming someone.

Could be a very emotive subject and can see it going ...

well treated and well mannered dog should not bite anyone should be well socialised.

If a well behaved dog is hit with a stick by a misbehaving child, dog bites child - who's at fault and who should be sued?

Owner of the dog that was just defending itself?

Parent of the child that hit the dog.

Ambulance chasing lawyers would have a field day.

Yes, that’s true but as the owner of a dog, you’d be liable if you did not have your dog under control.

Whether it was defending itself or not would make no difference.

"

Not disagreeing sadly there is no law against bad parenting and keeping badly behaved kids under control .

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Tom has a lot of time for the Spanish and their practices and they have nailed it here. If a lager lout on benefits cannot control a dog then you cannot sue a straw man

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

It would be like car insurance. Rottweilers and Alsations Group 15. Pay more.

Spaniel Group 3

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall


"Well if someone’s dog bit my child, I would be bringing a legal action against the owner of the dog.

It would be in the owners best interest to have public liability insurance to prevent themselves from ending up bankrupt due to their pooch maiming someone.

Could be a very emotive subject and can see it going ...

well treated and well mannered dog should not bite anyone should be well socialised.

If a well behaved dog is hit with a stick by a misbehaving child, dog bites child - who's at fault and who should be sued?

Owner of the dog that was just defending itself?

Parent of the child that hit the dog.

Ambulance chasing lawyers would have a field day.

Yes, that’s true but as the owner of a dog, you’d be liable if you did not have your dog under control.

Whether it was defending itself or not would make no difference.

Not disagreeing sadly there is no law against bad parenting and keeping badly behaved kids under control . "

Yes, it is amazing what is and isn’t covered by legislation!

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall


"Tom has a lot of time for the Spanish and their practices and they have nailed it here. If a lager lout on benefits cannot control a dog then you cannot sue a straw man "

If he has nothing, you cannot get blood out of a stone.

However he would still be subject to the criminal aspect of having a dog dangerously out of control, for which hefty fines and imprisonment are punishments by the courts.

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By *ehindHerEyesCouple
over a year ago

SomewhereOnlyWeKnow


"It's expensive enough just to insure your dogs these days without having to pay liability insurance. I love my dogs and I doubt they would bite anyone.most dog attacks are from aggressive breed dogs that have not been trained properly. Which then down to the owners

Aggressive dog breeds is a term which really annoys me. Any dog can be aggressive, it's down to poor ownership. Personally it's dogs like westies or similar small dogs that are more likely to be aggressive. As part of my dogs insurance there is a liability element to it so most responsibly dog owners probably do have liability insurance "

The number 1 dog responsible for attacks in the UK is a Jack Russell

Tinder

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"Tom has a lot of time for the Spanish and their practices and they have nailed it here. If a lager lout on benefits cannot control a dog then you cannot sue a straw man

If he has nothing, you cannot get blood out of a stone.

However he would still be subject to the criminal aspect of having a dog dangerously out of control, for which hefty fines and imprisonment are punishments by the courts."

Hefty fines and imprisonments ?

In modern Britain ?

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"It's expensive enough just to insure your dogs these days without having to pay liability insurance. I love my dogs and I doubt they would bite anyone.most dog attacks are from aggressive breed dogs that have not been trained properly. Which then down to the owners

Aggressive dog breeds is a term which really annoys me. Any dog can be aggressive, it's down to poor ownership. Personally it's dogs like westies or similar small dogs that are more likely to be aggressive. As part of my dogs insurance there is a liability element to it so most responsibly dog owners probably do have liability insurance

The number 1 dog responsible for attacks in the UK is a Jack Russell

Tinder "

Yes but those attacks are on rats

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By *ent in BlackMan
over a year ago

Silsden

My daughter when she was 3 was bitten by a loose dog in the park, she was in the pram (I was pushing) it came from literally nowhere and jumped in the pram. Thankfully she wasn’t hurt badly, I grabbed the dog off her (sheepdog thing) the owner threatened to ‘knock me out’ if he saw me doing that again to his dog, when I pointed out what had happened he tried to blame my child…in a pram.

I pointed out what happened, he said his dog just wanted to play, thankfully another member of the public had called the police and they intervened.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

there is only one winner between a dogs teeth and flesh ..

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By *dward_TeagueMan
over a year ago

wolverhampton

Most home contents policies have personal liability cover which will extend to animals so dog owners who have home insurance will have the cover. Pet insurance has liability cover too.

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By *ehindHerEyesCouple
over a year ago

SomewhereOnlyWeKnow


"It's expensive enough just to insure your dogs these days without having to pay liability insurance. I love my dogs and I doubt they would bite anyone.most dog attacks are from aggressive breed dogs that have not been trained properly. Which then down to the owners

Aggressive dog breeds is a term which really annoys me. Any dog can be aggressive, it's down to poor ownership. Personally it's dogs like westies or similar small dogs that are more likely to be aggressive. As part of my dogs insurance there is a liability element to it so most responsibly dog owners probably do have liability insurance

The number 1 dog responsible for attacks in the UK is a Jack Russell

Tinder

Yes but those attacks are on rats "

Tinder

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall


"Tom has a lot of time for the Spanish and their practices and they have nailed it here. If a lager lout on benefits cannot control a dog then you cannot sue a straw man

If he has nothing, you cannot get blood out of a stone.

However he would still be subject to the criminal aspect of having a dog dangerously out of control, for which hefty fines and imprisonment are punishments by the courts.

Hefty fines and imprisonments ?

In modern Britain ?

"

This is a sad reality Tom

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Plod won't turn out for a burglar or car theft.

What chance a dog attack

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Plod won't turn out for a burglar or car theft.

What chance a dog attack "

Damage to property… low priority. Injuries to people… high priority.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Well if someone’s dog bit my child, I would be bringing a legal action against the owner of the dog.

It would be in the owners best interest to have public liability insurance to prevent themselves from ending up bankrupt due to their pooch maiming someone."

They need to be jailed, not fined and compensated by insurance!

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By *hagTonightMan
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.

That is good news. I am not sure if we have it here. I wonder if these attacks happens more as the owners doesnt use a leash? I think that they should enforce the use of the leash more too

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

They should bring back the dog licence

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By *ent in BlackMan
over a year ago

Silsden


"They should bring back the dog licence "

To be honest mate you’re bang on, my only thought would be, what to do with all the dogs of people who refuse to buy one and how to police it all?

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By *ittlemissTinselTitsCouple
over a year ago

Southampton


"They should bring back the dog licence "

As far as I know it never went away its just bloody difficult to police...I say we put down the owners when a dog attacks.... no such thing as a bad dog just bad owners....

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Tom has always said that potential dog owners should apply to a panel of local community leaders including a religious leader, police chief and Parish Councillor to approve if the house or flat is suitable and a conditional licence granted which can be revoked for dog fouling, aggression or attacks..

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