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By *atnip make me purr OP Woman
over a year ago

Reading

If you were having a girl's night, would you include trans women?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Good question. What if you don’t know any transwomen?

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By *enrietteandSamCouple
over a year ago

Staffordshire

I’m not a girl or trans so I can’t really join in here.

However…

If I was having a boys night I’d still include Rex.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Girls means girls

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough

Do you need a chauffeur?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes, of course, trans women are women too

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By *riar BelisseWoman
over a year ago

Delightful Bliss

Yes for a normal fun night out, but I wouldn't involve them in our intimate conversations about menopause for instance, as that wouldn't be an inclusive conversation

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By *atnip make me purr OP Woman
over a year ago

Reading

"Do you need a chauffeur?

No but we may need a naked waiter.

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough

"Do you need a chauffeur?

No but we may need a naked waiter."

The last thing you need us seeing me naked.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

- would you invite a transwoman to a girls night out OP?

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By *lynJMan
over a year ago

Morden

"Good question. What if you don’t know any transwomen? "

But if you did?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Never done the whole "girls night" out thing as I have more male friends (non sexual) than female.

Also not sure Grumpy can pull off a dress very well, he'd make one bloody ugly woman!

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By *offiaCoolWoman
over a year ago

Kidsgrove

Absolutely yes. I'm not sure why people wouldn't. A trans woman is a woman.

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By *hePerkyPumpkinTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol

What about a TV though?

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By *nightsoftheCoffeeTableCouple
over a year ago

Leeds

Yeah course, now can we have a ladies night night.

Mrs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What about a TV though? "

Whole different ball game

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Never done the whole "girls night" out thing as I have more male friends (non sexual) than female.

Also not sure Grumpy can pull off a dress very well, he'd make one bloody ugly woman!

Can you ask him though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If you were having a girl's night, would you include trans women?

I would, I need friends STAT lol

I would though is the serious answer

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By *offiaCoolWoman
over a year ago

Kidsgrove

"What about a TV though?

Whole different ball game"

Can I ask what might appear as a stupid question ? Does a TV identify as a woman when dressed, or is the dressing part of a sexual kink for sex ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Never done the whole "girls night" out thing as I have more male friends (non sexual) than female.

Also not sure Grumpy can pull off a dress very well, he'd make one bloody ugly woman!

Can you ask him though

I'll lend him a wig

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By *ryandseeMan
over a year ago

Yorkshire

No idea why it matters who goes to a night out. I know women who go out and one or two will often take their best man friends too. Perhaps I am missing something but it's not my night so whoever you imvute, enjoy

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

"Never done the whole "girls night" out thing as I have more male friends (non sexual) than female.

Also not sure Grumpy can pull off a dress very well, he'd make one bloody ugly woman!

Cheeky Fucker

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Good question. What if you don’t know any transwomen?

But if you did?"

If i did it’d be to a general girls night out.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What about a TV though?

Whole different ball game

Can I ask what might appear as a stupid question ? Does a TV identify as a woman when dressed, or is the dressing part of a sexual kink for sex ?"

Both.

Neither.

Depends on the TV.

Generally, in my experience, identifying as a TV stops short of TS. I dont identify as a woman when dressed, but I don't really identify as a man either.

It's complicated and I don't really understand it all myself

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

"Never done the whole "girls night" out thing as I have more male friends (non sexual) than female.

Also not sure Grumpy can pull off a dress very well, he'd make one bloody ugly woman!

Can you ask him though

Don't encourage her ffs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Never done the whole "girls night" out thing as I have more male friends (non sexual) than female.

Also not sure Grumpy can pull off a dress very well, he'd make one bloody ugly woman!

Can you ask him though

Don't encourage her ffs

I'm requesting this in the picture challenge thread

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By *hePerkyPumpkinTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol

"What about a TV though?

Whole different ball game

Can I ask what might appear as a stupid question ? Does a TV identify as a woman when dressed, or is the dressing part of a sexual kink for sex ?"

I use fem pronouns when I'm dressed, or when I'm talking about Miss Jo

And you end up doing it in guy mode more often than not too.

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By *offiaCoolWoman
over a year ago

Kidsgrove

"What about a TV though?

Whole different ball game

Can I ask what might appear as a stupid question ? Does a TV identify as a woman when dressed, or is the dressing part of a sexual kink for sex ?

Both.

Neither.

Depends on the TV.

Generally, in my experience, identifying as a TV stops short of TS. I dont identify as a woman when dressed, but I don't really identify as a man either.

It's complicated and I don't really understand it all myself "

Oh right,that's helpful.....not

How could we word the invitation to be inclusive then ?

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By *hePerkyPumpkinTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol

"What about a TV though?

Whole different ball game

Can I ask what might appear as a stupid question ? Does a TV identify as a woman when dressed, or is the dressing part of a sexual kink for sex ?

Both.

Neither.

Depends on the TV.

Generally, in my experience, identifying as a TV stops short of TS. I dont identify as a woman when dressed, but I don't really identify as a man either.

It's complicated and I don't really understand it all myself "

Pretty much this

I call myself Her/She when I'm dressed, but I still identify as a guy

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By *offiaCoolWoman
over a year ago

Kidsgrove

[Removed by poster at 14/08/23 12:31:10]

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By *offiaCoolWoman
over a year ago

Kidsgrove

"What about a TV though?

Whole different ball game

Can I ask what might appear as a stupid question ? Does a TV identify as a woman when dressed, or is the dressing part of a sexual kink for sex ?

Both.

Neither.

Depends on the TV.

Generally, in my experience, identifying as a TV stops short of TS. I dont identify as a woman when dressed, but I don't really identify as a man either.

It's complicated and I don't really understand it all myself

Pretty much this

I call myself Her/She when I'm dressed, but I still identify as a guy"

You just answered the question I posed to you, hence my deleted post

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

"Never done the whole "girls night" out thing as I have more male friends (non sexual) than female.

Also not sure Grumpy can pull off a dress very well, he'd make one bloody ugly woman!

Can you ask him though

Don't encourage her ffs

I'm requesting this in the picture challenge thread

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yes for a normal fun night out, but I wouldn't involve them in our intimate conversations about menopause for instance, as that wouldn't be an inclusive conversation "

This.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What about a TV though?

Whole different ball game

Can I ask what might appear as a stupid question ? Does a TV identify as a woman when dressed, or is the dressing part of a sexual kink for sex ?

Both.

Neither.

Depends on the TV.

Generally, in my experience, identifying as a TV stops short of TS. I dont identify as a woman when dressed, but I don't really identify as a man either.

It's complicated and I don't really understand it all myself

Oh right,that's helpful.....not

How could we word the invitation to be inclusive then ?"

Honestly?

I am not sure you can! Someone will choose to be offended.

You could say 'women', you could say 'those who identify as women'.

Sadly either option will get extremists from either end of the spectrum all sniffy. Mine field

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By *heGateKeeperMan
over a year ago

Stratford

Just invite everyone out and I’ll still be the last bitch standing

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By *oveallMan
over a year ago

kells

"If you were having a girl's night, would you include trans women? Girls and Girls or Gurls lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What about a TV though?

Whole different ball game

Can I ask what might appear as a stupid question ? Does a TV identify as a woman when dressed, or is the dressing part of a sexual kink for sex ?

Both.

Neither.

Depends on the TV.

Generally, in my experience, identifying as a TV stops short of TS. I dont identify as a woman when dressed, but I don't really identify as a man either.

It's complicated and I don't really understand it all myself

Oh right,that's helpful.....not

How could we word the invitation to be inclusive then ?

Honestly?

I am not sure you can! Someone will choose to be offended.

You could say 'women', you could say 'those who identify as women'.

Sadly either option will get extremists from either end of the spectrum all sniffy. Mine field"

I also think people in Pumpkin or my situation need to be careful not to muscle in on women's safe spaces (Be they cis or trans). We have no automatic right of access, invitations are nice but should not be expected

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If you were having a girl's night, would you include trans women?

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Yes

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By *offiaCoolWoman
over a year ago

Kidsgrove

"What about a TV though?

Whole different ball game

Can I ask what might appear as a stupid question ? Does a TV identify as a woman when dressed, or is the dressing part of a sexual kink for sex ?

Both.

Neither.

Depends on the TV.

Generally, in my experience, identifying as a TV stops short of TS. I dont identify as a woman when dressed, but I don't really identify as a man either.

It's complicated and I don't really understand it all myself

Oh right,that's helpful.....not

How could we word the invitation to be inclusive then ?

Honestly?

I am not sure you can! Someone will choose to be offended.

You could say 'women', you could say 'those who identify as women'.

Sadly either option will get extremists from either end of the spectrum all sniffy. Mine field"

If I was organising a 'girls night', I would be inviting friends/family/work colleagues. If I knew someone well enough that I was aware they dressed sometimes, I think I would just have a conversation and work it out between ourselves.

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By *offiaCoolWoman
over a year ago

Kidsgrove

"What about a TV though?

Whole different ball game

Can I ask what might appear as a stupid question ? Does a TV identify as a woman when dressed, or is the dressing part of a sexual kink for sex ?

Both.

Neither.

Depends on the TV.

Generally, in my experience, identifying as a TV stops short of TS. I dont identify as a woman when dressed, but I don't really identify as a man either.

It's complicated and I don't really understand it all myself

Oh right,that's helpful.....not

How could we word the invitation to be inclusive then ?

Honestly?

I am not sure you can! Someone will choose to be offended.

You could say 'women', you could say 'those who identify as women'.

Sadly either option will get extremists from either end of the spectrum all sniffy. Mine field

We could issue a 5ft 10ins height limit

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Of course

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By *heGateKeeperMan
over a year ago

Stratford

"Of course

You’re not invited though x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Of course

You’re not invited though x"

Neither are you coz you’re a boy

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By *offiaCoolWoman
over a year ago

Kidsgrove

"Of course

You’re not invited though x"

Course she is, she's a gal

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By *hePerkyPumpkinTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol

"What about a TV though?

Whole different ball game

Can I ask what might appear as a stupid question ? Does a TV identify as a woman when dressed, or is the dressing part of a sexual kink for sex ?

Both.

Neither.

Depends on the TV.

Generally, in my experience, identifying as a TV stops short of TS. I dont identify as a woman when dressed, but I don't really identify as a man either.

It's complicated and I don't really understand it all myself

Oh right,that's helpful.....not

How could we word the invitation to be inclusive then ?

Honestly?

I am not sure you can! Someone will choose to be offended.

You could say 'women', you could say 'those who identify as women'.

Sadly either option will get extremists from either end of the spectrum all sniffy. Mine field

Yes it's a very blurry area and easy to get things wrong.

But I do agree with Jennie that we should be mindful of not invading women's safe spaces.

As I said, although I use Fem pronouns when I'm dressed, I still identify as a guy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What about a TV though?

Whole different ball game

Can I ask what might appear as a stupid question ? Does a TV identify as a woman when dressed, or is the dressing part of a sexual kink for sex ?

Both.

Neither.

Depends on the TV.

Generally, in my experience, identifying as a TV stops short of TS. I dont identify as a woman when dressed, but I don't really identify as a man either.

It's complicated and I don't really understand it all myself

Oh right,that's helpful.....not

How could we word the invitation to be inclusive then ?

Honestly?

I am not sure you can! Someone will choose to be offended.

You could say 'women', you could say 'those who identify as women'.

Sadly either option will get extremists from either end of the spectrum all sniffy. Mine field

You'll be getting labelled an anti woke transphobe.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Of course

You’re not invited though x

Course she is, she's a gal

Yay

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By *obyn GravesTV/TS
over a year ago

1127 walnut avenue

Surely it's a case of lift up your skirt at the door...if you got a cock under there...you ain't coming in..

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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago

East London

Yes. I have a trans woman acquaintance who would be included on a girls' night out. At the pub we go to the toilet together.

We treat her like a woman, so other people do too.

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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago

East London

"Yes. I have a trans woman acquaintance who would be included on a girls' night out. At the pub we go to the toilet together.

We treat her like a woman, so other people do too."

Transvestites included too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What about a TV though?

Whole different ball game

Can I ask what might appear as a stupid question ? Does a TV identify as a woman when dressed, or is the dressing part of a sexual kink for sex ?

Both.

Neither.

Depends on the TV.

Generally, in my experience, identifying as a TV stops short of TS. I dont identify as a woman when dressed, but I don't really identify as a man either.

It's complicated and I don't really understand it all myself

Oh right,that's helpful.....not

How could we word the invitation to be inclusive then ?

Honestly?

I am not sure you can! Someone will choose to be offended.

You could say 'women', you could say 'those who identify as women'.

Sadly either option will get extremists from either end of the spectrum all sniffy. Mine field

You'll be getting labelled an anti woke transphobe."

My above comments relate to transvestites, which is the easy bit. Men who present fem.

TS is a different conversation. In my mind, someone genuinely identifying as a woman, and living their life accordingly is a woman.

But that's easy for me to say, I haven't the lived experience of growing up as a female in a male dominated world.

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