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"I think they may well be similar in the sense some hate It and others don’t mind it but I’d definitely argue that it’s unlikely that unicorn is offensive to some women in the same way BBC is to some Black men. " Fair point. I'm not trying to draw exact parallels. I think it's more a person's immediate reaction to having the terms used about them I was interested in. LvM | |||
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"No, unicorn just expresses the rarity. BBC is a whole different kettle of fish that has been discussed at length. Some people HATE the term BBC so for this reason alone people should just stop using it. Simples really." There would be no language left if we dropped terms because some dislike it. | |||
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"No, unicorn just expresses the rarity. BBC is a whole different kettle of fish that has been discussed at length. Some people HATE the term BBC so for this reason alone people should just stop using it. Simples really." There's also plenty of women who loath the the unicorn moniker, so using that same logic, shouldn't it also stop being used? LvM | |||
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"Excellent, you've fallen into my trap. Now let's get started. Quick question: Is the term "Unicorn" to women, what "BBC" is to black men? What I mean is a term that many of the people it refers to find derogatory, while others embrace it and revel in it. Similarly, those searching for said people see no issues in banding the term around, while other outsiders find it distasteful. Just a Monday musing... LvM" Whqt is a Unicorn?? Bbc we most know from being in here. And our payed Licence fee to the ",BBC " | |||
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"No, unicorn just expresses the rarity. BBC is a whole different kettle of fish that has been discussed at length. Some people HATE the term BBC so for this reason alone people should just stop using it. Simples really. There would be no language left if we dropped terms because some dislike it. " I don’t think it’s about not using it because some don’t mind it but I think people can use it when it is understood to be ok with the person rather than just assuming people will be ok with it. Same with the C word or calling someone a b*tch or slut etc. I would always make sure there was understanding that the person didn’t mind being called that before using it. | |||
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"Dislike the term unicorn, but the term I loathe on here is being referred to as a snowbunny. Being reduced to one trait makes me feel crap and I won't engage with the message. Though I do appreciate some love it, it's certainly not for me" Wait wait wait wait wait, you like Black men (eyes emoji) | |||
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"No, unicorn just expresses the rarity. BBC is a whole different kettle of fish that has been discussed at length. Some people HATE the term BBC so for this reason alone people should just stop using it. Simples really." Because some dislike it, everyone should stop using it? No. | |||
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"No, unicorn just expresses the rarity. BBC is a whole different kettle of fish that has been discussed at length. Some people HATE the term BBC so for this reason alone people should just stop using it. Simples really. There's also plenty of women who loath the the unicorn moniker, so using that same logic, shouldn't it also stop being used? LvM" Technically yes, but unicorn can be applied to anyone that is "rare" in their combination of appealing traits. I'd want to know what are their actual reasons for loathing it? Because while they are valid in their feelings and it can be considered objectification (well it is), it still can't really compete with the racial fetishisation that is connected with the BBC label. Either way the problem is some people loath it and find it offensive having that label attached to them in that way, and some embrace it and use it to their advantage while also encouraging it's use by others. So long as the latter happens it doesn't really matter what the former want, other than having the label not be used for them after informing others they don't like it applied to them. | |||
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"No, unicorn just expresses the rarity. BBC is a whole different kettle of fish that has been discussed at length. Some people HATE the term BBC so for this reason alone people should just stop using it. Simples really. There's also plenty of women who loath the the unicorn moniker, so using that same logic, shouldn't it also stop being used? LvM" Yes absolutely though there isn't the same history behind it. We have dropped many words that are seen as offensive and look we still have a language left. Tada. | |||
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"No, unicorn just expresses the rarity. BBC is a whole different kettle of fish that has been discussed at length. Some people HATE the term BBC so for this reason alone people should just stop using it. Simples really. There's also plenty of women who loath the the unicorn moniker, so using that same logic, shouldn't it also stop being used? LvM" | |||
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"No, unicorn just expresses the rarity. BBC is a whole different kettle of fish that has been discussed at length. Some people HATE the term BBC so for this reason alone people should just stop using it. Simples really. There's also plenty of women who loath the the unicorn moniker, so using that same logic, shouldn't it also stop being used? LvM Yes absolutely though there isn't the same history behind it. We have dropped many words that are seen as offensive and look we still have a language left. Tada. " But in the same point some women love the term and use it proudly as their username, it's not a term for me but I accept some like it some don't. Mrs | |||
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"Why do people have to be labelled as anything other than humans.....let them be humans, do labels not objectify, constrain amd limit us as people, as humans " Life is too far gone to just see everyone as human. When people see me I want them to acknowledge and consider how my race may impact me and how words might offend me. And I treat other minoritised groups that way too. | |||
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"Why do people have to be labelled as anything other than humans.....let them be humans, do labels not objectify, constrain amd limit us as people, as humans Life is too far gone to just see everyone as human. When people see me I want them to acknowledge and consider how my race may impact me and how words might offend me. And I treat other minoritised groups that way too. " Pickle as the Gambians say 'I've got, a rat, a cat, and a dog in the backyard and they are all playing nicely together'...all I'm saying... | |||
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"Why do people have to be labelled as anything other than humans.....let them be humans, do labels not objectify, constrain amd limit us as people, as humans Life is too far gone to just see everyone as human. When people see me I want them to acknowledge and consider how my race may impact me and how words might offend me. And I treat other minoritised groups that way too. Pickle as the Gambians say 'I've got, a rat, a cat, and a dog in the backyard and they are all playing nicely together'...all I'm saying... " And as they say in Jamaica, out of many, one people. Doesn’t mean that pretending the things people face discrimination and persecution for can just be forgotten because we’re all human unfortunately | |||
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"Why do people have to be labelled as anything other than humans.....let them be humans, do labels not objectify, constrain amd limit us as people, as humans Life is too far gone to just see everyone as human. When people see me I want them to acknowledge and consider how my race may impact me and how words might offend me. And I treat other minoritised groups that way too. Pickle as the Gambians say 'I've got, a rat, a cat, and a dog in the backyard and they are all playing nicely together'...all I'm saying... " | |||
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"Perhaps PAWG would be more of an equivalent..." Yeah I really don't like that one. | |||
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"Why do people have to be labelled as anything other than humans.....let them be humans, do labels not objectify, constrain amd limit us as people, as humans Life is too far gone to just see everyone as human. When people see me I want them to acknowledge and consider how my race may impact me and how words might offend me. And I treat other minoritised groups that way too. Pickle as the Gambians say 'I've got, a rat, a cat, and a dog in the backyard and they are all playing nicely together'...all I'm saying... And as they say in Jamaica, out of many, one people. Doesn’t mean that pretending the things people face discrimination and persecution for can just be forgotten because we’re all human unfortunately " Pickle aint getting into this with ya, as your so emotionally invested in this stuff and I'm not. | |||
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"Why do people have to be labelled as anything other than humans.....let them be humans, do labels not objectify, constrain amd limit us as people, as humans Life is too far gone to just see everyone as human. When people see me I want them to acknowledge and consider how my race may impact me and how words might offend me. And I treat other minoritised groups that way too. Pickle as the Gambians say 'I've got, a rat, a cat, and a dog in the backyard and they are all playing nicely together'...all I'm saying... " Beautifully & succinctly put #embrace & rejoice in our ‘differences’ | |||
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"Why do people have to be labelled as anything other than humans.....let them be humans, do labels not objectify, constrain amd limit us as people, as humans " Its here amongst us created for a reason and its at full play. We are humans ,what are we,whom are we,what is our Daily purpose? | |||
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" Pickle aint getting into this with ya, as your so emotionally invested in this stuff and I'm not. " And that in itself is a privilege | |||
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" Pickle aint getting into this with ya, as your so emotionally invested in this stuff and I'm not. And that in itself is a privilege " Fr | |||
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" Pickle aint getting into this with ya, as your so emotionally invested in this stuff and I'm not. And that in itself is a privilege " | |||
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" Pickle aint getting into this with ya, as your so emotionally invested in this stuff and I'm not. And that in itself is a privilege Fr " What does Fr mean? x | |||
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" Pickle aint getting into this with ya, as your so emotionally invested in this stuff and I'm not. And that in itself is a privilege Fr What does Fr mean? x" For real | |||
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" Pickle aint getting into this with ya, as your so emotionally invested in this stuff and I'm not. And that in itself is a privilege Fr What does Fr mean? x For real" Now I see it. Thanks x | |||
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"Unicorns and cannonballs Palace and piers Trumpets,towers. nd tenements Wide oceans full of tears Flags rags ferryboats Scimatars and scarves Every precious dream and vision Underneath the stars . How about a unicorn with a bbc Now that s. Rare Perhaps our TV friends But May know better and have found one." You climbed on the ladder With the wind in your sails You came like a comet Blazing your trail Too high Too far Too soon Top song, fittingly about understanding the world in a wider context and not just in our self-defined spheres of experience | |||
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"Unicorns and cannonballs Palace and piers Trumpets,towers. nd tenements Wide oceans full of tears Flags rags ferryboats Scimatars and scarves Every precious dream and vision Underneath the stars . How about a unicorn with a bbc Now that s. Rare Perhaps our TV friends But May know better and have found one. You climbed on the ladder With the wind in your sails You came like a comet Blazing your trail Too high Too far Too soon Top song, fittingly about understanding the world in a wider context and not just in our self-defined spheres of experience " Indeed | |||
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"I think they may well be similar in the sense some hate It and others don’t mind it but I’d definitely argue that it’s unlikely that unicorn is offensive to some women in the same way BBC is to some Black men. Fair point. I'm not trying to draw exact parallels. I think it's more a person's immediate reaction to having the terms used about them I was interested in. LvM" Some love the words and some hate them. I'll never be a BBC so can't feel anything about that. Unicorn makes me . | |||
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"We have never and would never use either term and find them both very kind of, well, childish for want of a better description. In our experiences, the people that describe themselves in those terms are not the kind of people we find ourselves compatible with. " This. Fyi I'm more a knackered mule than a unicorn | |||
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