FabSwingers.com forum: France and Germany, thinking about airstrikes on Nigeria

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

How can they even talk about Putin and Ukraine hypocrites

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

Do you mean Nigeria, or Niger? Two distinct countries, one with a recent military coup (and it's not Nigeria).

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Do you mean Nigeria, or Niger? Two distinct countries, one with a recent military coup (and it's not Nigeria)."
sorry yes Niger

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By *ent in BlackMan
over a year ago

Silsden

This all I can find, pretty standard really.

Emmanuel Macron "will not tolerate any attack against France and its interests" in Niger and Paris will retaliate "immediately and uncompromisingly", the French government said on Sunday, as thousands demonstrated outside the French embassy in Niamey in support of an ongoing military coup.

"Anyone attacking French nationals, the army, diplomats or French bases would see France retaliate immediately and intractably," the Elysée Palace warned in a statement. "The President of the Republic will not tolerate any attack against France and its interests."

According to the Quai d'Orsay, 500 to 600 French nationals are currently in Niger.

"France also supports all regional initiatives aimed at "restoring constitutional order" and the return of the elected president Mohamed Bazoum, the palace added.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"This all I can find, pretty standard really.

According to the Quai d'Orsay, 500 to 600 French nationals are currently in Niger.

"France also supports all regional initiatives aimed at "restoring constitutional order" and the return of the elected president Mohamed Bazoum, the palace added."
so nothing to do with stealing all the countries natural resources than no

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By *lackXealMan
over a year ago

Middlesbrough

France and Germany are just bullies. Many Nigeriens support the military why not just leave them alone

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

"France and Germany are just bullies. Many Nigeriens support the military why not just leave them alone "

Because it is a Wagner funded coup based on disinformation who's gained a foothold in every country in Africa from East to West?

If Wagner is responsible for atrocities, you only have to look at ISIS and the Taliban to see how armed conflict and radicalism affects people.

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By *ent in BlackMan
over a year ago

Silsden

"This all I can find, pretty standard really.

According to the Quai d'Orsay, 500 to 600 French nationals are currently in Niger.

"France also supports all regional initiatives aimed at "restoring constitutional order" and the return of the elected president Mohamed Bazoum, the palace added. so nothing to do with stealing all the countries natural resources than no "

The statement says nothing about resources, however I do believe the coup is backed by the Wagner group.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Watch this space China are due to strike March 24.

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

Germany isn't allowed to conduct offensive military action.

Its armed forces are there for defensive purposes only.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"This all I can find, pretty standard really.

According to the Quai d'Orsay, 500 to 600 French nationals are currently in Niger.

The statement says nothing about resources, however I do believe the coup is backed by the Wagner group. "
so where does France get 90% of uranium in a year from lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's a Russian back coup.They are opening a second front to take resources away from the Ukrainian front.Niger has one of the biggest uranium resources in the world.

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By *ent in BlackMan
over a year ago

Silsden

"This all I can find, pretty standard really.

According to the Quai d'Orsay, 500 to 600 French nationals are currently in Niger.

The statement says nothing about resources, however I do believe the coup is backed by the Wagner group. so where does France get 90% of uranium in a year from lol"

And which major player currently desperate for resources is backing this coup?

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By *hagTonightMan
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.

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By *hagTonightMan
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.

If negotiations doesnt work. I think that military intervention could be the only solution there.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's a Russian back coup.They are opening a second front to take resources away from the Ukrainian front.Niger has one of the biggest uranium resources in the world."

Russia has joined forces with China. People are so focused on Ukraine that they are missing the point.

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By *lackXealMan
over a year ago

Middlesbrough

"France and Germany are just bullies. Many Nigeriens support the military why not just leave them alone

Because it is a Wagner funded coup based on disinformation who's gained a foothold in every country in Africa from East to West?

If Wagner is responsible for atrocities, you only have to look at ISIS and the Taliban to see how armed conflict and radicalism affects people."

I dont care if it is Wagner or Russia that funded the coup. The fact is still remains that Nigeriens are happy with the military and tired of France. Just look at it like a divorce lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"France and Germany are just bullies. Many Nigeriens support the military why not just leave them alone

Because it is a Wagner funded coup based on disinformation who's gained a foothold in every country in Africa from East to West?

If Wagner is responsible for atrocities, you only have to look at ISIS and the Taliban to see how armed conflict and radicalism affects people.

I dont care if it is Wagner or Russia that funded the coup. The fact is still remains that Nigeriens are happy with the military and tired of France. Just look at it like a divorce lol"

So Nigerians want independence and a brexit and the army are coming in to shut it down...funny that.

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By *lackXealMan
over a year ago

Middlesbrough

"If negotiations doesnt work. I think that military intervention could be the only solution there."

Why military intervention when it was a bloodless coup. Why can't France mind thier own business and stay the fuck out. Except they have something to loose.

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

Let that region decide. Not our business

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

"France and Germany are just bullies. Many Nigeriens support the military why not just leave them alone

Because it is a Wagner funded coup based on disinformation who's gained a foothold in every country in Africa from East to West?

If Wagner is responsible for atrocities, you only have to look at ISIS and the Taliban to see how armed conflict and radicalism affects people."

The world is slowly being run by and taken over by gangsters and Putin is right there. I see the infamous Chechen killers imported to Ukraine now running energy plants that were financed by Europeans

Germany are smart to be building military force.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"France and Germany are just bullies. Many Nigeriens support the military why not just leave them alone

Because it is a Wagner funded coup based on disinformation who's gained a foothold in every country in Africa from East to West?

If Wagner is responsible for atrocities, you only have to look at ISIS and the Taliban to see how armed conflict and radicalism affects people.

The world is slowly being run by and taken over by gangsters and Putin is right there. I see the infamous Chechen killers imported to Ukraine now running energy plants that were financed by Europeans

Germany are smart to be building military force."

While the UK gets depleted.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's a Russian back coup.They are opening a second front to take resources away from the Ukrainian front.Niger has one of the biggest uranium resources in the world.

Russia has joined forces with China. People are so focused on Ukraine that they are missing the point."
Correct the silk road initiative.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"It's a Russian back coup.They are opening a second front to take resources away from the Ukrainian front.Niger has one of the biggest uranium resources in the world.

Russia has joined forces with China. People are so focused on Ukraine that they are missing the point. Correct the silk road initiative. "
so it’s perfectly okay for France and Germany to take it then and not China Russia ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's a Russian back coup.They are opening a second front to take resources away from the Ukrainian front.Niger has one of the biggest uranium resources in the world.

Russia has joined forces with China. People are so focused on Ukraine that they are missing the point. Correct the silk road initiative. so it’s perfectly okay for France and Germany to take it then and not China Russia ?"
then on the same thought why can't France and Germany defend their interests? Falkland islands sound familiar?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’ve been doing air strikes all day today

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By *2000ManMan
over a year ago

Worthing

It is amazing how few people around the world have such power to wage war. I thought we had moved on from the middle ages.

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By *ellhungvweMan
over a year ago

Cheltenham

The Sahel, of which Niger is part of, have some of the richest mineral deposits in the world. As has been observed above the former French colony provides almost all of the Uranium used to power French nuclear reactors. Almost all of this uranium is mined via companies owned by the French. There is a similar story for most other minerals. As a result almost none of this wealth goes to the average citizen of Niger.

If the French do engage militarily it is purely for their own economic interest. They don’t care at all, and never have, about what happens on the ground.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"The Sahel, of which Niger is part of, have some of the richest mineral deposits in the world. As has been observed above the former French colony provides almost all of the Uranium used to power French nuclear reactors. Almost all of this uranium is mined via companies owned by the French. There is a similar story for most other minerals. As a result almost none of this wealth goes to the average citizen of Niger.

If the French do engage militarily it is purely for their own economic interest. They don’t care at all, and never have, about what happens on the ground."
so it’s perfectly okay for France to do airstrikes on them then and it’s totally wrong What Putin is doing in the Ukraine ?

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By *ellhungvweMan
over a year ago

Cheltenham

If the French do engage militarily it is purely for their own economic interest. They don’t care at all, and never have, about what happens on the ground. so it’s perfectly okay for France to do airstrikes on them then and it’s totally wrong What Putin is doing in the Ukraine ?"

They are both hypocrites.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A military coup is one thing, a military coup that has ties to wagner/russia is a completely different thing. At this moment maybe the population do want/prefer the coup over France but that's because they have only experienced it from one side of the fence and think the grass is greener on the other side so only time will tell.

On the matter of resources/minerals well France and other countries might be right to try to protect their interests as China recently banned exports of some of theirs and well China kinda like Putin.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's a Russian back coup.They are opening a second front to take resources away from the Ukrainian front.Niger has one of the biggest uranium resources in the world.

Russia has joined forces with China. People are so focused on Ukraine that they are missing the point. Correct the silk road initiative. so it’s perfectly okay for France and Germany to take it then and not China Russia ? then on the same thought why can't France and Germany defend their interests? Falkland islands sound familiar? "

Countries are forming alliances for what is to come and the UK is floundering literally that is my point. I am neutral.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They are both hypocrites."

Of course they are doesn't make them any less dangerous. Countries building alliances, building up their military etc and ours is depleted and under funded. Just look how our vets and ex vets are treated.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Always look at the bigger picture. To mislead is to confuse. All the global things that is happening at the moment are not random and are all connected.

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By *ellhungvweMan
over a year ago

Cheltenham

"It's a Russian back coup.They are opening a second front to take resources away from the Ukrainian front.Niger has one of the biggest uranium resources in the world.

Russia has joined forces with China. People are so focused on Ukraine that they are missing the point. Correct the silk road initiative. so it’s perfectly okay for France and Germany to take it then and not China Russia ? then on the same thought why can't France and Germany defend their interests? Falkland islands sound familiar?

Countries are forming alliances for what is to come and the UK is floundering literally that is my point. I am neutral."

The UK is very clearly aligned - with the US. That is going to be our very clear strategic alliance for decades to come. That governs our global alliances - NATO, AUKUS,etc.

Central Africa is irrelevant to the UK. We care about ocean access, the Arctic and, increasingly, Asia. That is where our alliances are focused.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Always look at the bigger picture. To mislead is to confuse. All the global things that is happening at the moment are not random and are all connected. "

I unfortunately think this is correct, we are edging to global conflict, sides are being formed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Do you mean Nigeria, or Niger? Two distinct countries, one with a recent military coup (and it's not Nigeria)."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Do you mean Nigeria, or Niger? Two distinct countries, one with a recent military coup (and it's not Nigeria).

Africa is a country.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's a Russian back coup.They are opening a second front to take resources away from the Ukrainian front.Niger has one of the biggest uranium resources in the world.

Russia has joined forces with China. People are so focused on Ukraine that they are missing the point. Correct the silk road initiative. so it’s perfectly okay for France and Germany to take it then and not China Russia ? then on the same thought why can't France and Germany defend their interests? Falkland islands sound familiar?

Countries are forming alliances for what is to come and the UK is floundering literally that is my point. I am neutral.

The UK is very clearly aligned - with the US. That is going to be our very clear strategic alliance for decades to come. That governs our global alliances - NATO, AUKUS,etc.

Central Africa is irrelevant to the UK. We care about ocean access, the Arctic and, increasingly, Asia. That is where our alliances are focused."

Maybe so but with our armed forces depleted. We are a sitting target and extremely weak in the grand scheme of things.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Do you mean Nigeria, or Niger? Two distinct countries, one with a recent military coup (and it's not Nigeria).

Africa is a country. "
Africa is a Continent

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By *aul_j80Man
over a year ago

Bloxwich

Where is the evidence that the Niger coup was organised by Wagner or Russia? locals flying Russian flags in Niamey isn't.

Niger provides 25% of Uranium to the EU but 80% of Nigeriens have no electricity, sure corruption is rife in Africa, but the French have taken advantage of the former African colonies since independence, maybe France should leave the Africans to it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Where is the evidence that the Niger coup was organised by Wagner or Russia? locals flying Russian flags in Niamey isn't.

Protestors storm French military base in Niger.

Police have been instructed by Niger's new military government to eject the French ambassador. The order has been defiantly ignored by the French administration. Protesters invaded the French military base in the capital, Niamey, in response to the rising tensions.

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