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"It's not so binary for me. Op, there are women who are attracted to "dadbods". Those who prefer more "muscular". And those who don't give that much of a fuck and it depends on the person. I'm the latter category." Sorry but that’s not acceptable. Men think in terms of football or Top Trumps; one thing beats another. We need definitions - who’s got time for nuance and, y’know, being thoughtful  | |||
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"It's not so binary for me. Op, there are women who are attracted to "dadbods". Those who prefer more "muscular". And those who don't give that much of a fuck and it depends on the person. I'm the latter category. Sorry but that’s not acceptable. Men think in terms of football or Top Trumps; one thing beats another. We need definitions - who’s got time for nuance and, y’know, being thoughtful "Oh come on Adam, work with us here! We're women, therefore we're complicated! 
OP _eli is right! A lot can be forgiven for a beautiful soul!
Although a hot body is a bonus! See! I'm just shallow really! | |||
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"I'm really muscular and defined with rock hard abs. Unfortunately I wear a layer of insulation on top of it. Still I've given up being a self obsessed narcissist paranoid about my body fat % as long as I'm healthy and happy don't smell and myself genuinely if women don't like the way I look it is what it is. " How is someone a narcissistic if they enjoy the gym? | |||
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"I'm really muscular and defined with rock hard abs. Unfortunately I wear a layer of insulation on top of it. Still I've given up being a self obsessed narcissist paranoid about my body fat % as long as I'm healthy and happy don't smell and myself genuinely if women don't like the way I look it is what it is. Obsession can often be what weak people call dedication. How is someone a narcissistic if they enjoy the gym?" | |||
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"It's not so binary for me. Op, there are women who are attracted to "dadbods". Those who prefer more "muscular". And those who don't give that much of a fuck and it depends on the person. I'm the latter category. Sorry but that’s not acceptable. Men think in terms of football or Top Trumps; one thing beats another. We need definitions - who’s got time for nuance and, y’know, being thoughtful
Oh come on Adam, work with us here! We're women, therefore we're complicated!
OP _eli is right! A lot can be forgiven for a beautiful soul!
Although a hot body is a bonus! See! I'm just shallow really! "Ooh, I’m not sure I like the sound of this at all 
The other advantage of choosing one or the other is that we can tell ourselves it’s the reason we’re not knee-deep in moist minge 24/7.
“Ah, I would be, but I’m unfortunately blessed with big bones” is much easier than “Ah, I would be, but unfortunately I’ve got a personality as attractive as an evasive politician.”
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"Hows about a thick layer of fat over the muscles why does that never get a classification "Ditto.
I have had to change my body type from Athletic to Average post lockdown. Never got it back! | |||
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"I'm really muscular and defined with rock hard abs. Unfortunately I wear a layer of insulation on top of it. Still I've given up being a self obsessed narcissist paranoid about my body fat % as long as I'm healthy and happy don't smell and myself genuinely if women don't like the way I look it is what it is. How is someone a narcissistic if they enjoy the gym?" the inference is that you love yourself and your body | |||
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"I'm really muscular and defined with rock hard abs. Unfortunately I wear a layer of insulation on top of it. Still I've given up being a self obsessed narcissist paranoid about my body fat % as long as I'm healthy and happy don't smell and myself genuinely if women don't like the way I look it is what it is. " So because someone goes to the gym to keep in the best shape they can and fight off middle age flab it makes them a self obsessed narcissist? Do you care to explain this train of thought? | |||
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"I don’t do body preferences…. Just have a good personality and don’t be a dick "This!!! | |||
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"I'm really muscular and defined with rock hard abs. Unfortunately I wear a layer of insulation on top of it. Still I've given up being a self obsessed narcissist paranoid about my body fat % as long as I'm healthy and happy don't smell and myself genuinely if women don't like the way I look it is what it is. So because someone goes to the gym to keep in the best shape they can and fight off middle age flab it makes them a self obsessed narcissist? Do you care to explain this train of thought?"  | |||
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"I'm really muscular and defined with rock hard abs. Unfortunately I wear a layer of insulation on top of it. Still I've given up being a self obsessed narcissist paranoid about my body fat % as long as I'm healthy and happy don't smell and myself genuinely if women don't like the way I look it is what it is. How is someone a narcissistic if they enjoy the gym?the inference is that you love yourself and your body "Or that you’re perhaps interested in the gym/sport etc and it’s a hobby? What if you’re a PTI for your job? Are you too a narcissist? | |||
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"Obsession is what most weak people call dedication. Not really surprising there from the response." "Obsession, like dedication, is highly subjective. Obsession, objectively speaking, is only a more extreme form of dedication. However, from the perspective of society, obsession tends to have a more negative connotation, whereas dedication tends to have a more positive one." | |||
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"I'm really muscular and defined with rock hard abs. Unfortunately I wear a layer of insulation on top of it. Still I've given up being a self obsessed narcissist paranoid about my body fat % as long as I'm healthy and happy don't smell and myself genuinely if women don't like the way I look it is what it is. How is someone a narcissistic if they enjoy the gym?the inference is that you love yourself and your body
Or that you’re perhaps interested in the gym/sport etc and it’s a hobby?
What if you’re a PTI for your job? Are you too a narcissist?"I'm on your side I'm not a gym goer never have been i preferred competitive sport but i agree any kind of sport is good for body mind and soul | |||
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"I'm really muscular and defined with rock hard abs. Unfortunately I wear a layer of insulation on top of it. Still I've given up being a self obsessed narcissist paranoid about my body fat % as long as I'm healthy and happy don't smell and myself genuinely if women don't like the way I look it is what it is. How is someone a narcissistic if they enjoy the gym?the inference is that you love yourself and your body
Or that you’re perhaps interested in the gym/sport etc and it’s a hobby?
What if you’re a PTI for your job? Are you too a narcissist?I'm on your side I'm not a gym goer never have been i preferred competitive sport but i agree any kind of sport is good for body mind and soul "Absolutely, you can do what you want. There’s too many judges in this world. Let people enjoy what they want without being stigmatised with a label. | |||
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"It's not so binary for me. Op, there are women who are attracted to "dadbods". Those who prefer more "muscular". And those who don't give that much of a fuck and it depends on the person. I'm the latter category. Sorry but that’s not acceptable. Men think in terms of football or Top Trumps; one thing beats another. We need definitions - who’s got time for nuance and, y’know, being thoughtful
Oh come on Adam, work with us here! We're women, therefore we're complicated!
OP _eli is right! A lot can be forgiven for a beautiful soul!
Although a hot body is a bonus! See! I'm just shallow really! "Thank god for my beautiful soul... | |||
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"Obsession is what most weak people call dedication. Not really surprising there from the response. "Obsession, like dedication, is highly subjective. Obsession, objectively speaking, is only a more extreme form of dedication. However, from the perspective of society, obsession tends to have a more negative connotation, whereas dedication tends to have a more positive one."" Mr Calvin Klein probably disagree
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"I'm really muscular and defined with rock hard abs. Unfortunately I wear a layer of insulation on top of it. Still I've given up being a self obsessed narcissist paranoid about my body fat % as long as I'm healthy and happy don't smell and myself genuinely if women don't like the way I look it is what it is. So because someone goes to the gym to keep in the best shape they can and fight off middle age flab it makes them a self obsessed narcissist? Do you care to explain this train of thought?" Lol have you spent much time in the gym or around gym types. In my small amount of experience which is using the gym for about 40years most (not all) Spend more time looking in the mirror than actually working out and nowadays spend more time taking selfies and posting on insta. If that isn't narcissistic behaviour then please tell me what is? Keeping fit and healthy
Being consumed with body fat % and appearance
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Would you rather have sex with someone who is healthy and happy and attentive to your needs
Or a ripped six pack wielding hunk who spends the entire time checking himself out in the mirror almost oblivious to your presence?
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"I'm really muscular and defined with rock hard abs. Unfortunately I wear a layer of insulation on top of it. Still I've given up being a self obsessed narcissist paranoid about my body fat % as long as I'm healthy and happy don't smell and myself genuinely if women don't like the way I look it is what it is. So because someone goes to the gym to keep in the best shape they can and fight off middle age flab it makes them a self obsessed narcissist? Do you care to explain this train of thought? Lol have you spent much time in the gym or around gym types. In my small amount of experience which is using the gym for about 40years most (not all) Spend more time looking in the mirror than actually working out and nowadays spend more time taking selfies and posting on insta. If that isn't narcissistic behaviour then please tell me what is? Keeping fit and healthy
Being consumed with body fat % and appearance
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Would you rather have sex with someone who is healthy and happy and attentive to your needs
Or a ripped six pack wielding hunk who spends the entire time checking himself out in the mirror almost oblivious to your presence?
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"I'm really muscular and defined with rock hard abs. Unfortunately I wear a layer of insulation on top of it. Still I've given up being a self obsessed narcissist paranoid about my body fat % as long as I'm healthy and happy don't smell and myself genuinely if women don't like the way I look it is what it is. So because someone goes to the gym to keep in the best shape they can and fight off middle age flab it makes them a self obsessed narcissist? Do you care to explain this train of thought? Lol have you spent much time in the gym or around gym types. In my small amount of experience which is using the gym for about 40years most (not all) Spend more time looking in the mirror than actually working out and nowadays spend more time taking selfies and posting on insta. If that isn't narcissistic behaviour then please tell me what is? Keeping fit and healthy
Being consumed with body fat % and appearance
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Would you rather have sex with someone who is healthy and happy and attentive to your needs
Or a ripped six pack wielding hunk who spends the entire time checking himself out in the mirror almost oblivious to your presence?
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"I'm really muscular and defined with rock hard abs. Unfortunately I wear a layer of insulation on top of it. Still I've given up being a self obsessed narcissist paranoid about my body fat % as long as I'm healthy and happy don't smell and myself genuinely if women don't like the way I look it is what it is. How is someone a narcissistic if they enjoy the gym?the inference is that you love yourself and your body
Or that you’re perhaps interested in the gym/sport etc and it’s a hobby?
What if you’re a PTI for your job? Are you too a narcissist?I'm on your side I'm not a gym goer never have been i preferred competitive sport but i agree any kind of sport is good for body mind and soul
Absolutely, you can do what you want. There’s too many judges in this world.
Let people enjoy what they want without being stigmatised with a label."Pfffttt I've dedicated my entire adult life to the pursuit of health and fitness I know what dedication is working full time and training 25hrs a week on top. I have known many professional sports men and women including world record holder's and gold medal winning Olympians. I have also known many people who have dedicated their lives in the pursuit of physical perfection in appearance and trust me the latter are nearly always narcissistic,it goes with the territory. But if they are happy doing that it's their lives. I'm not disputing that. I'm just saying from my experience certain gym types are narcissistic. And if we are going down the road of being judgemental I can tell you for a fact, ripped up roid enthusiasts judge everyone by their high standards. I'm glad to be out of it and healthy but overweight. | |||
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"I'm really muscular and defined with rock hard abs. Unfortunately I wear a layer of insulation on top of it. Still I've given up being a self obsessed narcissist paranoid about my body fat % as long as I'm healthy and happy don't smell and myself genuinely if women don't like the way I look it is what it is. So because someone goes to the gym to keep in the best shape they can and fight off middle age flab it makes them a self obsessed narcissist? Do you care to explain this train of thought? Lol have you spent much time in the gym or around gym types. In my small amount of experience which is using the gym for about 40years most (not all) Spend more time looking in the mirror than actually working out and nowadays spend more time taking selfies and posting on insta. If that isn't narcissistic behaviour then please tell me what is? Keeping fit and healthy
Being consumed with body fat % and appearance
Thumb's down.
Would you rather have sex with someone who is healthy and happy and attentive to your needs
Or a ripped six pack wielding hunk who spends the entire time checking himself out in the mirror almost oblivious to your presence?
Get you a man who can do both "Exactly | |||
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"I'm really muscular and defined with rock hard abs. Unfortunately I wear a layer of insulation on top of it. Still I've given up being a self obsessed narcissist paranoid about my body fat % as long as I'm healthy and happy don't smell and myself genuinely if women don't like the way I look it is what it is. So because someone goes to the gym to keep in the best shape they can and fight off middle age flab it makes them a self obsessed narcissist? Do you care to explain this train of thought? Lol have you spent much time in the gym or around gym types. In my small amount of experience which is using the gym for about 40years most (not all) Spend more time looking in the mirror than actually working out and nowadays spend more time taking selfies and posting on insta. If that isn't narcissistic behaviour then please tell me what is? Keeping fit and healthy
Being consumed with body fat % and appearance
Thumb's down.
Would you rather have sex with someone who is healthy and happy and attentive to your needs
Or a ripped six pack wielding hunk who spends the entire time checking himself out in the mirror almost oblivious to your presence?
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"I'm really muscular and defined with rock hard abs. Unfortunately I wear a layer of insulation on top of it. Still I've given up being a self obsessed narcissist paranoid about my body fat % as long as I'm healthy and happy don't smell and myself genuinely if women don't like the way I look it is what it is. So because someone goes to the gym to keep in the best shape they can and fight off middle age flab it makes them a self obsessed narcissist? Do you care to explain this train of thought? Lol have you spent much time in the gym or around gym types. In my small amount of experience which is using the gym for about 40years most (not all) Spend more time looking in the mirror than actually working out and nowadays spend more time taking selfies and posting on insta. If that isn't narcissistic behaviour then please tell me what is? Keeping fit and healthy
Being consumed with body fat % and appearance
Thumb's down.
Would you rather have sex with someone who is healthy and happy and attentive to your needs
Or a ripped six pack wielding hunk who spends the entire time checking himself out in the mirror almost oblivious to your presence?
What kind of gyms you been visiting?"Any gym up and down the country is full of them. | |||
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"I'm really muscular and defined with rock hard abs. Unfortunately I wear a layer of insulation on top of it. Still I've given up being a self obsessed narcissist paranoid about my body fat % as long as I'm healthy and happy don't smell and myself genuinely if women don't like the way I look it is what it is. So because someone goes to the gym to keep in the best shape they can and fight off middle age flab it makes them a self obsessed narcissist? Do you care to explain this train of thought? Lol have you spent much time in the gym or around gym types. In my small amount of experience which is using the gym for about 40years most (not all) Spend more time looking in the mirror than actually working out and nowadays spend more time taking selfies and posting on insta. If that isn't narcissistic behaviour then please tell me what is? Keeping fit and healthy
Being consumed with body fat % and appearance
Thumb's down.
Would you rather have sex with someone who is healthy and happy and attentive to your needs
Or a ripped six pack wielding hunk who spends the entire time checking himself out in the mirror almost oblivious to your presence?
What kind of gyms you been visiting?
Any gym up and down the country is full of them.
"The gym I visit has about a 100 members and I know most of them and I can honestly say around 3 of them is what you describe so hardly full of them. | |||
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"I don’t think I fit into either category I’m sort of in the aging mountain man kind of spot. I’m happy with that. And happy to chat to the people who find me interesting enough to get to know me " Love your tattoos  | |||
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"I'm really muscular and defined with rock hard abs. Unfortunately I wear a layer of insulation on top of it. Still I've given up being a self obsessed narcissist paranoid about my body fat % as long as I'm healthy and happy don't smell and myself genuinely if women don't like the way I look it is what it is. So because someone goes to the gym to keep in the best shape they can and fight off middle age flab it makes them a self obsessed narcissist? Do you care to explain this train of thought? Lol have you spent much time in the gym or around gym types. In my small amount of experience which is using the gym for about 40years most (not all) Spend more time looking in the mirror than actually working out and nowadays spend more time taking selfies and posting on insta. If that isn't narcissistic behaviour then please tell me what is? Keeping fit and healthy
Being consumed with body fat % and appearance
Thumb's down.
Would you rather have sex with someone who is healthy and happy and attentive to your needs
Or a ripped six pack wielding hunk who spends the entire time checking himself out in the mirror almost oblivious to your presence?
What kind of gyms you been visiting?
Any gym up and down the country is full of them.
The gym I visit has about a 100 members and I know most of them and I can honestly say around 3 of them is what you describe so hardly full of them."This I my experience, in fact I can’t say I’ve ever seen any members spending more time looking in mirrors or taking selfies. | |||
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"I'm really muscular and defined with rock hard abs. Unfortunately I wear a layer of insulation on top of it. Still I've given up being a self obsessed narcissist paranoid about my body fat % as long as I'm healthy and happy don't smell and myself genuinely if women don't like the way I look it is what it is. So because someone goes to the gym to keep in the best shape they can and fight off middle age flab it makes them a self obsessed narcissist? Do you care to explain this train of thought? Lol have you spent much time in the gym or around gym types. In my small amount of experience which is using the gym for about 40years most (not all) Spend more time looking in the mirror than actually working out and nowadays spend more time taking selfies and posting on insta. If that isn't narcissistic behaviour then please tell me what is? Keeping fit and healthy
Being consumed with body fat % and appearance
Thumb's down.
Would you rather have sex with someone who is healthy and happy and attentive to your needs
Or a ripped six pack wielding hunk who spends the entire time checking himself out in the mirror almost oblivious to your presence?
What kind of gyms you been visiting?
Any gym up and down the country is full of them.
The gym I visit has about a 100 members and I know most of them and I can honestly say around 3 of them is what you describe so hardly full of them.
This I my experience, in fact I can’t say I’ve ever seen any members spending more time looking in mirrors or taking selfies."Agree and the gym we attend would have more a younger age group. 99% are there to workout | |||
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"I don’t think I fit into either category I’m sort of in the aging mountain man kind of spot. I’m happy with that. And happy to chat to the people who find me interesting enough to get to know me Love your tattoos "Aww thanks… need to book in for some more soon though | |||
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"Beats me why some men feel the need to put others down. Ok so some are gym rats and love what they do. Yeah they look in the mirror, checking form maybe? Perhaps they compete and are practicing posing which btw it really hard. Even if they are just checking themselves out, so what, they have worked bloody hard to achieve it so why not admire it? If those slating spent less time on what others do in the gym and focused more on what they themselves are doing they might see more gains ",,,, this | |||
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"Beats me why some men feel the need to put others down. Ok so some are gym rats and love what they do. Yeah they look in the mirror, checking form maybe? Perhaps they compete and are practicing posing which btw it really hard. Even if they are just checking themselves out, so what, they have worked bloody hard to achieve it so why not admire it? If those slating spent less time on what others do in the gym and focused more on what they themselves are doing they might see more gains " | |||
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"I don’t think I fit into either category I’m sort of in the aging mountain man kind of spot. I’m happy with that. And happy to chat to the people who find me interesting enough to get to know me Love your tattoos
Aww thanks… need to book in for some more soon though "Theyre so addictive. Im in the middle of getting a full length sleeve based on the armour of skadi and my feck it hurts so much but the end result is so worth it | |||
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"Beats me why some men feel the need to put others down. Ok so some are gym rats and love what they do. Yeah they look in the mirror, checking form maybe? Perhaps they compete and are practicing posing which btw it really hard. Even if they are just checking themselves out, so what, they have worked bloody hard to achieve it so why not admire it? If those slating spent less time on what others do in the gym and focused more on what they themselves are doing they might see more gains "Perfectly said x | |||
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"Beats me why some men feel the need to put others down. Ok so some are gym rats and love what they do. Yeah they look in the mirror, checking form maybe? Perhaps they compete and are practicing posing which btw it really hard. Even if they are just checking themselves out, so what, they have worked bloody hard to achieve it so why not admire it? If those slating spent less time on what others do in the gym and focused more on what they themselves are doing they might see more gains
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"Beats me why some men feel the need to put others down. Ok so some are gym rats and love what they do. Yeah they look in the mirror, checking form maybe? Perhaps they compete and are practicing posing which btw it really hard. Even if they are just checking themselves out, so what, they have worked bloody hard to achieve it so why not admire it? If those slating spent less time on what others do in the gym and focused more on what they themselves are doing they might see more gains "I think it comes from both sides Not just people that don’t train calling gym goers. But also gym goers calling others lazy. I think it’s down to the individual at that point arrogance can be in many form. Not just on appearance. I don’t go to the gym. Only because the times of the day I can train is stupidly busy. So I run, walk lots, climb and luckily have a very demanding physical job. And regularly lifting weights 25kg - 90kg so I guess I lift at work. I can see how people become really into it though. Training releases great endorphins and even though you’re training hard, afterwards you feel great. | |||
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"I don’t think I fit into either category I’m sort of in the aging mountain man kind of spot. I’m happy with that. And happy to chat to the people who find me interesting enough to get to know me Love your tattoos
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Theyre so addictive. Im in the middle of getting a full length sleeve based on the armour of skadi and my feck it hurts so much but the end result is so worth it"That sounds great love to see them | |||
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"Yet you are all judging me by my comments. Double standards "It was your sweeping statement that people who go to gym are self obsessed narcissists. | |||
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"Beats me why some men feel the need to put others down. Ok so some are gym rats and love what they do. Yeah they look in the mirror, checking form maybe? Perhaps they compete and are practicing posing which btw it really hard. Even if they are just checking themselves out, so what, they have worked bloody hard to achieve it so why not admire it? If those slating spent less time on what others do in the gym and focused more on what they themselves are doing they might see more gains
I think it comes from both sides
Not just people that don’t train calling gym goers. But also gym goers calling others lazy.
I think it’s down to the individual at that point arrogance can be in many form. Not just on appearance.
I don’t go to the gym. Only because the times of the day I can train is stupidly busy.
So I run, walk lots, climb and luckily have a very demanding physical job. And regularly lifting weights 25kg - 90kg so I guess I lift at work.
I can see how people become really into it though. Training releases great endorphins and even though you’re training hard, afterwards you feel great.
"I agree and I was talking about those who attend gyms and slate other members, I just dont get it. I did weights for almost 40yrs and got nothing but respect, support and great advice from the bigger guys. You're also correct that you dont have to go to a gym to build as you perfectly illustrate. I just dont feel that a mans size and definition dictates his personality. I mean, some might look at you and dismiss you as the type that's been talked about on this thread but you're actually a kind, gentle man who apparently gives great hugs  | |||
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"Yet you are all judging me by my comments. Double standards "I'm not judging you per say, I'm simply offering an alternative opinion to your perspective. Apologies if you took that personally. | |||
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"Yet you are all judging me by my comments. Double standards "To be fair your comment blanketing all gym goers as Narcissistic is pretty rude. Yet you’re taking it personally when people pull you up in it. Everyone’s entitled to an opinion and also to disagree or agree. | |||
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"I'm really muscular and defined with rock hard abs. Unfortunately I wear a layer of insulation on top of it. Still I've given up being a self obsessed narcissist paranoid about my body fat % as long as I'm healthy and happy don't smell and myself genuinely if women don't like the way I look it is what it is. " This is an awful attitude to have. Do you genuinely believe that people in good physical fitness are “self obsessed narcissists” ? That’s very judgemental | |||
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"Beats me why some men feel the need to put others down. Ok so some are gym rats and love what they do. Yeah they look in the mirror, checking form maybe? Perhaps they compete and are practicing posing which btw it really hard. Even if they are just checking themselves out, so what, they have worked bloody hard to achieve it so why not admire it? If those slating spent less time on what others do in the gym and focused more on what they themselves are doing they might see more gains
I think it comes from both sides
Not just people that don’t train calling gym goers. But also gym goers calling others lazy.
I think it’s down to the individual at that point arrogance can be in many form. Not just on appearance.
I don’t go to the gym. Only because the times of the day I can train is stupidly busy.
So I run, walk lots, climb and luckily have a very demanding physical job. And regularly lifting weights 25kg - 90kg so I guess I lift at work.
I can see how people become really into it though. Training releases great endorphins and even though you’re training hard, afterwards you feel great.
I agree and I was talking about those who attend gyms and slate other members, I just dont get it. I did weights for almost 40yrs and got nothing but respect, support and great advice from the bigger guys. You're also correct that you dont have to go to a gym to build as you perfectly illustrate. I just dont feel that a mans size and definition dictates his personality. I mean, some might look at you and dismiss you as the type that's been talked about on this thread but you're actually a kind, gentle man who apparently gives great hugs "Haha thanks, I do like hugging I’m a bear mew look chunky, move slowly mist of the time. But we’re known for moments of great speed and acts of strength. Before slowly waddling off into the forest again in search of a “picanic basket” | |||
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"Beats me why some men feel the need to put others down. Ok so some are gym rats and love what they do. Yeah they look in the mirror, checking form maybe? Perhaps they compete and are practicing posing which btw it really hard. Even if they are just checking themselves out, so what, they have worked bloody hard to achieve it so why not admire it? If those slating spent less time on what others do in the gym and focused more on what they themselves are doing they might see more gains
I think it comes from both sides
Not just people that don’t train calling gym goers. But also gym goers calling others lazy.
I think it’s down to the individual at that point arrogance can be in many form. Not just on appearance.
I don’t go to the gym. Only because the times of the day I can train is stupidly busy.
So I run, walk lots, climb and luckily have a very demanding physical job. And regularly lifting weights 25kg - 90kg so I guess I lift at work.
I can see how people become really into it though. Training releases great endorphins and even though you’re training hard, afterwards you feel great.
I agree and I was talking about those who attend gyms and slate other members, I just dont get it. I did weights for almost 40yrs and got nothing but respect, support and great advice from the bigger guys. You're also correct that you dont have to go to a gym to build as you perfectly illustrate. I just dont feel that a mans size and definition dictates his personality. I mean, some might look at you and dismiss you as the type that's been talked about on this thread but you're actually a kind, gentle man who apparently gives great hugs
Haha thanks, I do like hugging I’m a bear mew look chunky, move slowly mist of the time. But we’re known for moments of great speed and acts of strength. Before slowly waddling off into the forest again in search of a “picanic basket”"Ok Yogi lol x | |||
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"I'm just resigned to the fact I have to live with my puppy-fat and dåd-carcass, and mask it behind tailored shirts and clever photography. Some of you mofos do indeed have some admirably toned bodies. "Nero, you fill those shirts perfectly | |||
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"Yet you are all judging me by my comments. Double standards
To be fair your comment blanketing all gym goers as Narcissistic is pretty rude. Yet you’re taking it personally when people pull you up in it.
Everyone’s entitled to an opinion and also to disagree or agree.
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"I thought it funny when a gym fit guy took the elevator down one floor." - probably checking himself out in the lift mirror or taking a selfie for insta | |||
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From someone who's scared of the gym, my new way of thinking is if I go gym hunk they might show me how to use the gym | |||
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From someone who's scared of the gym, my new way of thinking is if I go gym hunk they might show me how to use the gym "Don’t be scared, you will be offered an induction and most have PTI sessions to help you settle in. A good gym will offer a few free sessions to help you find your feet. | |||
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"The funny thing is from experience I see more woman, being obsessed with self reflection in gyms and gym culture these days then men, wearing tight Spandex looking outfits that are more ideal for their Instagram followers, than they are for for actually working out. This is why I prefer natural women, and not gym bunnies, because gym culture has gotten so bad these days, because I feel most women on the gym these days are doing it more for attention and insta numbers than actually for self improvement. Every day is glute day for them." The only way id end up on insta during a workout session is on a gym fails thing. Like yesterday when i near fell down the stairs because my legs werw all weird after the walking lunges | |||
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"This one is for all you ladies that have answered this question truthfully. THANK YOU. You have just put the biggest smile on 99% of our faces." Just out of curiosity which ones haven't answered truthfully and how can you tell? | |||
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"The funny thing is from experience I see more woman, being obsessed with self reflection in gyms and gym culture these days then men, wearing tight Spandex looking outfits that are more ideal for their Instagram followers, than they are for for actually working out. This is why I prefer natural women, and not gym bunnies, because gym culture has gotten so bad these days, because I feel most women on the gym these days are doing it more for attention and insta numbers than actually for self improvement. Every day is glute day for them. The only way id end up on insta during a workout session is on a gym fails thing. Like yesterday when i near fell down the stairs because my legs werw all weird after the walking lunges "Like Bambi on ice | |||
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"The funny thing is from experience I see more woman, being obsessed with self reflection in gyms and gym culture these days then men, wearing tight Spandex looking outfits that are more ideal for their Instagram followers, than they are for for actually working out. This is why I prefer natural women, and not gym bunnies, because gym culture has gotten so bad these days, because I feel most women on the gym these days are doing it more for attention and insta numbers than actually for self improvement. Every day is glute day for them. The only way id end up on insta during a workout session is on a gym fails thing. Like yesterday when i near fell down the stairs because my legs werw all weird after the walking lunges
Like Bambi on ice "I think even bambi had more grace than i did yesterday lol. Thank feck the gym wasnt too busy | |||
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"The funny thing is from experience I see more woman, being obsessed with self reflection in gyms and gym culture these days then men, wearing tight Spandex looking outfits that are more ideal for their Instagram followers, than they are for for actually working out. This is why I prefer natural women, and not gym bunnies, because gym culture has gotten so bad these days, because I feel most women on the gym these days are doing it more for attention and insta numbers than actually for self improvement. Every day is glute day for them. The only way id end up on insta during a workout session is on a gym fails thing. Like yesterday when i near fell down the stairs because my legs werw all weird after the walking lunges
Like Bambi on ice "Now that's a show I'd see. | |||
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"The funny thing is from experience I see more woman, being obsessed with self reflection in gyms and gym culture these days then men, wearing tight Spandex looking outfits that are more ideal for their Instagram followers, than they are for for actually working out. This is why I prefer natural women, and not gym bunnies, because gym culture has gotten so bad these days, because I feel most women on the gym these days are doing it more for attention and insta numbers than actually for self improvement. Every day is glute day for them. The only way id end up on insta during a workout session is on a gym fails thing. Like yesterday when i near fell down the stairs because my legs werw all weird after the walking lunges
Like Bambi on ice
Now that's a show I'd see. " I'm not sure you would. Hope you're well x | |||
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"The funny thing is from experience I see more woman, being obsessed with self reflection in gyms and gym culture these days then men, wearing tight Spandex looking outfits that are more ideal for their Instagram followers, than they are for for actually working out. This is why I prefer natural women, and not gym bunnies, because gym culture has gotten so bad these days, because I feel most women on the gym these days are doing it more for attention and insta numbers than actually for self improvement. Every day is glute day for them. The only way id end up on insta during a workout session is on a gym fails thing. Like yesterday when i near fell down the stairs because my legs werw all weird after the walking lunges
Like Bambi on ice
Now that's a show I'd see.
I'm not sure you would. Hope you're well x"You too x | |||
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"Whats your preference ?" Dad bod, muscles don't do much for me. Did have one guy though. | |||
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"I have a 6pack bod "2pack here lol..this post did rather better than i thougbt it would....especially after getting a message from.a guy telling it had been done before and slagging me off | |||
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"I have a 6pack bod
2pack here lol..this post did rather better than i thougbt it would....especially after getting a message from.a guy telling it had been done before and slagging me off"Some sad people in this world!!  | |||
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"I have a 6pack bod
2pack here lol..this post did rather better than i thougbt it would....especially after getting a message from.a guy telling it had been done before and slagging me off"No thread is completely original...I'm assuming he's not a fan of the dad bod | |||
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"I'm really muscular and defined with rock hard abs. Unfortunately I wear a layer of insulation on top of it. Still I've given up being a self obsessed narcissist paranoid about my body fat % as long as I'm healthy and happy don't smell and myself genuinely if women don't like the way I look it is what it is. How is someone a narcissistic if they enjoy the gym?" my thoughts exactly | |||
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2pack here lol..this post did rather better than i thougbt it would....especially after getting a message from.a guy telling it had been done before and slagging me off"Aw just bin him | |||
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"I have a 6pack bod
2pack here lol..this post did rather better than i thougbt it would....especially after getting a message from.a guy telling it had been done before and slagging me off
Some sad people in this world!! "You need to stop doing that to folk | |||
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"I'm really muscular and defined with rock hard abs. Unfortunately I wear a layer of insulation on top of it. Still I've given up being a self obsessed narcissist paranoid about my body fat % as long as I'm healthy and happy don't smell and myself genuinely if women don't like the way I look it is what it is. So because someone goes to the gym to keep in the best shape they can and fight off middle age flab it makes them a self obsessed narcissist? Do you care to explain this train of thought? Lol have you spent much time in the gym or around gym types. In my small amount of experience which is using the gym for about 40years most (not all) Spend more time looking in the mirror than actually working out and nowadays spend more time taking selfies and posting on insta. If that isn't narcissistic behaviour then please tell me what is? Keeping fit and healthy
Being consumed with body fat % and appearance
Thumb's down.
Would you rather have sex with someone who is healthy and happy and attentive to your needs
Or a ripped six pack wielding hunk who spends the entire time checking himself out in the mirror almost oblivious to your presence?
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"I'm really muscular and defined with rock hard abs. Unfortunately I wear a layer of insulation on top of it. Still I've given up being a self obsessed narcissist paranoid about my body fat % as long as I'm healthy and happy don't smell and myself genuinely if women don't like the way I look it is what it is. So because someone goes to the gym to keep in the best shape they can and fight off middle age flab it makes them a self obsessed narcissist? Do you care to explain this train of thought? Lol have you spent much time in the gym or around gym types. In my small amount of experience which is using the gym for about 40years most (not all) Spend more time looking in the mirror than actually working out and nowadays spend more time taking selfies and posting on insta. If that isn't narcissistic behaviour then please tell me what is? Keeping fit and healthy
Being consumed with body fat % and appearance
Thumb's down.
Would you rather have sex with someone who is healthy and happy and attentive to your needs
Or a ripped six pack wielding hunk who spends the entire time checking himself out in the mirror almost oblivious to your presence?
you're going to that type of gym because the gym I train no one does that "so anyone with a 6 pack is like this are they? Just like saying all Muslims are terrorists. Absolute bs | |||
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"What about a muscly dadbod hunk?
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"I have a 6pack bod
2pack here lol..this post did rather better than i thougbt it would....especially after getting a message from.a guy telling it had been done before and slagging me off
Some sad people in this world!!
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"Whats your preference ?" I'd rather some muscle but have been blesssed with a dadbod! Thank God that everyone doesn't like the same thing. It also kinda depends on the person, a little bit. As I have got older, I find it easier to find attractive features in other people's bodies, as I hope they do in mine. | |||
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"I love these threads, women tend to favour the dad bod style and can at times think guys that go to the gym etc are up themselves. Guys with dad bods, at times can think they are unattractive, think women prefer toned men and can get down about themselves. Guys who train and have a muscle/ toned body can at times be up themselves but on the most part be just as decent as anyone else. The ones that are up themselves get confused as to how dad bod guys get more success. The answer to it all is simple, be yourself, embrace others and accept that we all like different things "That's easy for you to say, you gorgeous hunk. That's a version of that thing rich people say about money doesn't make you happy! | |||
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"I have been attracted to different bodies but personality definitely is more attractive. Buff is an ex body builder from years ago so is very broad and bulky with fabulous chesticles as I call them. I adore his shape but appreciate that is my flavour and others will prefer a different shape xx" Nah. You're right. He is rather tasty. As are you! | |||
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"Got to be a dad body amazing cuddles and tend to be incredible lovers lol" Very very true hehehehehehe | |||
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