FabSwingers.com forum: Call for strictly boycott

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I may regret starting this thread but I am really curious about this.

There is an online call to boycott strictly because one of the celebs made what some call a transphopic comment a few years ago. The comment was about her opinion that sexual drag acts should not be performed in front of babies.

Are some saying its transphobic because it's about a drag act or are people just reading too much into it?

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By *ndycoinsMan
over a year ago

Whaley Bridge,Nr Buxton,

A miniscule minority making the most noise again,about something that isn't about trans.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Len Goodman didn't die for this.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

She’s absolutely correct. Drag acts are not for babies/children

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’d boycott it because it’s shit.

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By *jay9092Man
over a year ago

Bristol

"I’d boycott it because it’s shit."

Amen to that!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's ridiculous. I like Amanda Abbington and I agree with her.

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By *moothCriminal_xMan
over a year ago

Redditch

Depends on the drag act...panto seems ok, for example

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"She’s absolutely correct. Drag acts are not for babies/children "

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By *apybarasCouple
over a year ago

High Lighthouse!

The drag act comment was earlier this year, and pretty innocuous.

However, she made a much stronger statement a couple of years ago, which she has since apologised for.

For me that, and her statements supporting since, ought to draw a line under it...

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By *emorefridaCouple
over a year ago

La la land

I think children shouldn't be anywhere where there are any sexual acts and performances taking place. I wouldn't take my kids to a burlesque show either. However, I would take them to a dance performance. It comes down to the act not the person performing the act.

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By *r.SJMan
over a year ago

Wellingborough

Entitled. As long as it's not opinion.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would say it depends on the age of the child. Babies just like bright, shiny things and people with big smiles, so probably not life changing for them. Older kids are a different matter.

Bess x

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall

"I may regret starting this thread but I am really curious about this.

Are some saying its transphobic because it's about a drag act or are people just reading too much into it? "

I agree, no sexual acts, drag or otherwise, should be performed in front of babies or children.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

"Depends on the drag act...panto seems ok, for example"

I was about to say in panto two of the three main characters are in drag.

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By *heekyDemandCouple
over a year ago

Leicester

Strictly has a constant flow of celebs, the show isn't responsible for comments made by people on it. Sure, if they were the regular host, but just someone who came & went? May as well ban football from television because Vinnie Jones grabbed Gazza's balls.

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By *hrimper36Couple
over a year ago

Central France dept 36

I boycott strictly purely because I don’t like it and I wouldn’t boycott it because of an old tweet or text.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Strictly has a constant flow of celebs, the show isn't responsible for comments made by people on it. Sure, if they were the regular host, but just someone who came & went? May as well ban football from television because Vinnie Jones grabbed Gazza's balls."

On a side note the ref from that game was on antiques roadshow at the weekend with a signed photo of that moment.

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By *ris GrayMan
over a year ago

Dorchester

"I may regret starting this thread but I am really curious about this.

Are some saying its transphobic because it's about a drag act or are people just reading too much into it? "
I think it was more about children being dragged up in this day and age

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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago

Travelling

"Depends on the drag act...panto seems ok, for example"

Indeed. Honestly Drag is fine for all ages, the content of the act is what is the issue.

Is it sexual? then doesn't matter if its drag or not. Not suitable for kids.

If it is just a drag host/performer/whatever doing standard kids entertainment act. No issue at all.

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By *ris GrayMan
over a year ago

Dorchester

I love strictly don't boycott it

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By *batMan
over a year ago

Alicante, Spain. (Sometimes in Wales)

"Depends on the drag act...panto seems ok, for example

Indeed. Honestly Drag is fine for all ages, the content of the act is what is the issue.

Is it sexual? then doesn't matter if its drag or not. Not suitable for kids.

If it is just a drag host/performer/whatever doing standard kids entertainment act. No issue at all. "

Thanks, you saved me typing out the exact same message.

I wonder why people are scared about drag in front of young people? Are they afraid they’ll catch transvestism or something?

No sex is for kids, regardless of orientation or nicheness.

Gbat

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By *heekyDemandCouple
over a year ago

Leicester

If this celeb shops for food in Tesco, does that mean we boycott Tesco as well?

If this celeb went on holiday to Tenerife, does that mean we boycott going to Tenerife?

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By *ools and the brainCouple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

Jeeze lilly Savage used to host prime time Telly Shows hardly inappropriate for kid's.

I think it more depends on the content.

Christopher Biggins has made a very good living playing a drag style character in panto.

Dame Edna (drag??)

Anyways once again the loud minority claiming offence for a majority and because people are scared to death of the wrath of the trans they will probably end up cancelling the show.

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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago

Travelling

"If this celeb shops for food in Tesco, does that mean we boycott Tesco as well?

If this celeb went on holiday to Tenerife, does that mean we boycott going to Tenerife?

Not quite the same unless those places are paying for endorsement by such celeb.

BBC/strictly are paying the celeb. Knowingly.

I'm not saying support or not of such boycott is valid or just.

Only that your examples do not compare well

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By *ex HolesMan
over a year ago

Up North

If she’s got a statue I think bit should be pushed into the a river

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By *hilloutMan
over a year ago

All over the place! Northwesr, , Southwest

"I may regret starting this thread but I am really curious about this.

Are some saying its transphobic because it's about a drag act or are people just reading too much into it? "

Typically any opinion that doesn't align with the radical trans movement is labelled "transphobic".

Children shouldn't be anywhere near drag shows due to their explicit sexual nature. End of.

The fact this common sense opinion is even questioned shows what a shitshow western society in general has become.

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By *hesblokeMan
over a year ago

Derbyshire village

"I may regret starting this thread but I am really curious about this.

Are some saying its transphobic because it's about a drag act or are people just reading too much into it? "

It'd probably wake them up. Never wake a baby.

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By *illybeachboyMan
over a year ago

Guernsey

I'd propose a boycott because of the stale format of the show & the sh*t presenters.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If this celeb shops for food in Tesco, does that mean we boycott Tesco as well?

If this celeb went on holiday to Tenerife, does that mean we boycott going to Tenerife?

Actually restaurants have been "cancelled" because certain people had a meal there

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By *ou only live onceMan
over a year ago

London

If I've read the right tweet, I don't think it was transphobic, in what it actually said or its intention.

But I also don't actually think that drag in and of itself is inappropriate for children (others have given examples where it's not an issue!); it's the content of the show that may or may not be. I've no idea what was in the show she was referring to, but I guess parents can decide for themselves what is right or wrong for their children.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is a bit of a detour, but I've read a bit lately where feminists are decrying all drag as a misogynistic. I think that would include panto.

“Drag at its core is misogynistic,” wrote the pseudonymous Dr Em in the Critic magazine earlier this year. “It is men portraying women as sexually objectified caricatures. Drag performers frequently reduce women to hyper sexualised, big breasted, big haired bimbos.”

I wasn't sure what to think tbh. It strikes me that women haven't made an art form of caricaturing men. Hmm.

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By *aith SkynbyrdWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere else

"I’d boycott it because it’s shit."

This.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

"Depends on the drag act...panto seems ok, for example

Indeed. Honestly Drag is fine for all ages, the content of the act is what is the issue.

Is it sexual? then doesn't matter if its drag or not. Not suitable for kids.

If it is just a drag host/performer/whatever doing standard kids entertainment act. No issue at all. "

Agree with this. I wonder how many who say "drag isn't suitable for kids" would take their kids to see Aladdin (Widow Twankey) or Cinderella (Ugly Sisters)? Men performing in exaggerated women's roles in theatre is a long, long tradition.......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Depends on the drag act...panto seems ok, for example

Indeed. Honestly Drag is fine for all ages, the content of the act is what is the issue.

Is it sexual? then doesn't matter if its drag or not. Not suitable for kids.

If it is just a drag host/performer/whatever doing standard kids entertainment act. No issue at all.

Someone further up said that the comments were earlier this year which makes me think it’s to do with that viral video that was doing the rounds a few months ago. It clearly wasn’t suitable for children.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

"Depends on the drag act...panto seems ok, for example

Indeed. Honestly Drag is fine for all ages, the content of the act is what is the issue.

Is it sexual? then doesn't matter if its drag or not. Not suitable for kids.

If it is just a drag host/performer/whatever doing standard kids entertainment act. No issue at all.

We missed the viral video. Probably because we don't TikTok. Anything with overly sexual content is likely to be unsuitable for children. It being drag isn't what made it unsuitable, presumably? It would have been equally unsuitable if a man in a boiler suit delivered it?

I also haven't read any other comments that this person might have made on their Twitter because I don't really look at Twitter. I have never heard of Amanda Abbington either, so doing really well on this topic

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Depends on the drag act...panto seems ok, for example

Indeed. Honestly Drag is fine for all ages, the content of the act is what is the issue.

Is it sexual? then doesn't matter if its drag or not. Not suitable for kids.

If it is just a drag host/performer/whatever doing standard kids entertainment act. No issue at all.

I haven’t seen the full video, just the snippets on Twitter but I did see a lot of the outrage. You’re right, the fact it was drag is irrelevant but that doesn’t help with the agenda being pushed by bigots on social media.

It’s weird that none of this stuff ever came up on my timeline before Musk took over.

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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago

Travelling

"Depends on the drag act...panto seems ok, for example

Indeed. Honestly Drag is fine for all ages, the content of the act is what is the issue.

Is it sexual? then doesn't matter if its drag or not. Not suitable for kids.

If it is just a drag host/performer/whatever doing standard kids entertainment act. No issue at all.

Yeah that particular one definitely was not for kids. But that's due to the content and act.

The problem is a lot of people just can't separate the sexual drag acts from the family friendly ones. So the hate gets applied to all.

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By *hiny-SinnersCouple
over a year ago

Vale of Glamorgan

Look it’s simple, it’s about content and context!

Panto is not about promoting a lifestyle, it is about cartoonish characters basically doing slapstick. Kids have been harmlessly entertained by clowns, men in dresses and vice versa, etc. No agenda is being promoted or attacked.

A club drag act is typically highly sexualised and is inappropriate for children, but in such acts there is rarely any political activism about the trans movement.

Kids in schools being exposed to trans presenters promoting an ideology is problematic because children in that context would receive that presentation as factual or to be accepted. I see zero need for an outrageously dressed drag artist to educate children as sex ed can be competently taught by a qualified teacher with no specific agenda to promote.

Like someone correctly said above, it is about a small minority with very loud voices. Children are children, they do not need to be sexualised, but instead need a balanced education to equip them to make healthy life choices when they are adults. If, as an adult, they decide they wish to pursue a lifestyle, then more power to them, but it is not the job of adults with agendas to seek to influence them in their developmental years.

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By *heekyDemandCouple
over a year ago

Leicester

"If this celeb shops for food in Tesco, does that mean we boycott Tesco as well?

If this celeb went on holiday to Tenerife, does that mean we boycott going to Tenerife?

Not quite the same unless those places are paying for endorsement by such celeb.

BBC/strictly are paying the celeb. Knowingly.

I'm not saying support or not of such boycott is valid or just.

Only that your examples do not compare well"

It doesn't compare well now because people are rational, but eventually it turns into mob-mentality and mass hysteria.

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By *heekyDemandCouple
over a year ago

Leicester

"If this celeb shops for food in Tesco, does that mean we boycott Tesco as well?

If this celeb went on holiday to Tenerife, does that mean we boycott going to Tenerife?

Actually restaurants have been "cancelled" because certain people had a meal there "

Hysterical nonsense

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By *ornucopiaMan
over a year ago

Bexley

"I’d boycott it because it’s shit."

Not difficult. I boycott all television on the same grounds.

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