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By *ittle Miss Tinkerbell OP   Woman
over a year ago

your head

For those who suffer (or have experience with those that do) What do you do when it completely blindsides you?

I don't mean the coping mechanisms you have for living with it day to day but for when you think your bobbing along quite fine and it comes along and pulls the rug out from underneath without rhyme or reason.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As per q ignoring the day to day tricks, when I really feel overcome I reach out to friends or eat comfort food and hope it does not last long

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By *entish_HeathenMan
over a year ago

Chatham

Listening to music or listening to the world around me. Talking to family and friends. Always good to talk to others who understand without judgement x

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I take a minute and use grounding techniques to remind me where I am and that I'm safe.

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By *riar BelisseWoman
over a year ago

On Holibobs

Eating something grounds me, I always carry a coping snack, if I'm out on a busy day, as lots of people in one place overwhelms me once I feel the spiral start, eating stops it. So I can remove myself from the situation

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
over a year ago

Hastings

I'm not a good example as I turn to the devil drink all was have love the numbing feeling and that helps me sleep! I know its not good sleep but it's better then laying in bed with all the shit running around.

What you should do is yoga an CBT if you can get a ballance fantastic I 55 and still trying to find that ballance. The pace of life in the UK is not good if you can move to a better work life ballance country I would but Right now I can't.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

At it's worst?

Chewing sleeping tablets, candles, baths, David Attenborough, time off work, meditation...

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By *ittle Miss Tinkerbell OP   Woman
over a year ago

your head


"At it's worst?

Chewing sleeping tablets, candles, baths, David Attenborough, time off work, meditation..."

What sleeping tablets do you use if you don't mind me asking?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The best thing I ever found that helped people I looked after was this:

'Write!'

Get a blank book and write in it everything that makes you happy whenever you feel anxious. - Fill it full of positive things... any wise words that have helped in some way to alleviate your anxiety, poems, sketches... friend's/families wisdom... etc. ANYTHING that makes you feel better put it in there.

The writing process itself will calm you down and take your mind off of things, and everytime you feel anxious just take it out your special little book and read it and write in it. The technique worked wonders for people with travel phobias.

When the book is done you'll understand more how to 'fix' yourself and be a lot wiser too.

"How to stop worrying and start living" by Dale Carnegie audiobook is on YouTube and was a major factor in helping people, as was Wayne Dyer's - "101 Ways to Transform Your Life" audiobook (also on YouTube).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What a fantastic positive post to read. Nice one .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There is actually no fear in the kosmos, fear is internal (we create it).

For example, someone might be terrified of a spider. Other people love them and keep them as pets.

A spider cannot make anyone 'fear' it. It is the individual who makes 'themselves' afraid of it (or not).

This is good news! It means all we have to do is change our minds.

It takes time but you can do it if you apply yourself.

Again, the best way to do this is to write write write. Put the phone down, get a blank book and write. Even the sound of the pen on the pages chills most people out lol!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Your mind can work for or against you. If you train it well you will be very very happy indeed.

Most people never take the time.

Best wishes.

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By *ittle Miss Tinkerbell OP   Woman
over a year ago

your head


"There is actually no fear in the kosmos, fear is internal (we create it).

For example, someone might be terrified of a spider. Other people love them and keep them as pets.

A spider cannot make anyone 'fear' it. It is the individual who makes 'themselves' afraid of it (or not).

This is good news! It means all we have to do is change our minds.

It takes time but you can do it if you apply yourself.

Again, the best way to do this is to write write write. Put the phone down, get a blank book and write. Even the sound of the pen on the pages chills most people out lol!"

I write quite a lot actually but not easy to do when I'm working. Just need something to keep me at my desk without feeling like the earth is about to swallow me up. Thank you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"At it's worst?

Chewing sleeping tablets, candles, baths, David Attenborough, time off work, meditation...

What sleeping tablets do you use if you don't mind me asking?

"

GPs are extremely reluctant to give out benzos these days (understandably), so I just alternate OTC antihistamines every few days.

Diphenhydramine hydrochloride and dimethylethanamine.

Dimethylethanamine allegedly isn't 'addictive' and you can get it generically pretty cheap.

I dont use anything at the moment, but they've seen me through several months a few times without any problem (taken heavily).

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
over a year ago

Hastings


"At it's worst?

Chewing sleeping tablets, candles, baths, David Attenborough, time off work, meditation...

What sleeping tablets do you use if you don't mind me asking?

"

I'm prescribed a mix Diazepam 10mg with 10mg zolpidem but that is through a private consultnt NHS cut it down from 28 a month to 7 so had to go private again

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"At it's worst?

Chewing sleeping tablets, candles, baths, David Attenborough, time off work, meditation...

What sleeping tablets do you use if you don't mind me asking?

I'm prescribed a mix Diazepam 10mg with 10mg zolpidem but that is through a private consultnt NHS cut it down from 28 a month to 7 so had to go private again "

I was really lucky as my BIL is bipolar (that sounds so wrong), but, I he used to just hand me out Temazpam whenever I needed... but GPs have massively cracked down on benzos now, so I just abuse antihistamines when needed for a while.

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By *ittle Miss Tinkerbell OP   Woman
over a year ago

your head


"At it's worst?

Chewing sleeping tablets, candles, baths, David Attenborough, time off work, meditation...

What sleeping tablets do you use if you don't mind me asking?

GPs are extremely reluctant to give out benzos these days (understandably), so I just alternate OTC antihistamines every few days.

Diphenhydramine hydrochloride and dimethylethanamine.

Dimethylethanamine allegedly isn't 'addictive' and you can get it generically pretty cheap.

I dont use anything at the moment, but they've seen me through several months a few times without any problem (taken heavily).

"

I've have a look, thank you.

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
over a year ago

Hastings


"At it's worst?

Chewing sleeping tablets, candles, baths, David Attenborough, time off work, meditation...

What sleeping tablets do you use if you don't mind me asking?

GPs are extremely reluctant to give out benzos these days (understandably), so I just alternate OTC antihistamines every few days.

Diphenhydramine hydrochloride and dimethylethanamine.

Dimethylethanamine allegedly isn't 'addictive' and you can get it generically pretty cheap.

I dont use anything at the moment, but they've seen me through several months a few times without any problem (taken heavily).

"

I also find CBD oil helps but it needs to be a good one to help sleeping then a patten lavender room mist music find what helps.

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By *ittle Miss Tinkerbell OP   Woman
over a year ago

your head


"At it's worst?

Chewing sleeping tablets, candles, baths, David Attenborough, time off work, meditation...

What sleeping tablets do you use if you don't mind me asking?

I'm prescribed a mix Diazepam 10mg with 10mg zolpidem but that is through a private consultnt NHS cut it down from 28 a month to 7 so had to go private again "

Diazepam scares me. I want something that works but maybe not that strong.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have some anxiety meds which are low dose but I still manage to have huge panic attacks. Talking/writing it out is helpful because capturing what precisely set me off is key. There will usually be some self-talk that led directly to feeling anxious. It gets easier over time to hone in on what it is.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hi op

Not an expert.

I went to The Works bought some stress relief balls.. No not those. Each ball has a different smiley face. I squish them yer ok not that way. I also have a rubiks cube anxiety stress relief.

Or as not a Gp go see your Gp and speak with them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"At it's worst?

Chewing sleeping tablets, candles, baths, David Attenborough, time off work, meditation...

What sleeping tablets do you use if you don't mind me asking?

GPs are extremely reluctant to give out benzos these days (understandably), so I just alternate OTC antihistamines every few days.

Diphenhydramine hydrochloride and dimethylethanamine.

Dimethylethanamine allegedly isn't 'addictive' and you can get it generically pretty cheap.

I dont use anything at the moment, but they've seen me through several months a few times without any problem (taken heavily).

I've have a look, thank you. "

Sominex (dimethylethanamine) and something like Boots Sleepeaze (Diphenhydramine hydrochloride) if you can't be arsed to check about.

You can buy through online pharmacies for very cheap.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"At it's worst?

Chewing sleeping tablets, candles, baths, David Attenborough, time off work, meditation...

What sleeping tablets do you use if you don't mind me asking?

GPs are extremely reluctant to give out benzos these days (understandably), so I just alternate OTC antihistamines every few days.

Diphenhydramine hydrochloride and dimethylethanamine.

Dimethylethanamine allegedly isn't 'addictive' and you can get it generically pretty cheap.

I dont use anything at the moment, but they've seen me through several months a few times without any problem (taken heavily).

I also find CBD oil helps but it needs to be a good one to help sleeping then a patten lavender room mist music find what helps."

I bought some expensive stuff and it did nothing for me after the first few times of using it. I literally drank that shit and it did nothing.

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
over a year ago

Hastings


"At it's worst?

Chewing sleeping tablets, candles, baths, David Attenborough, time off work, meditation...

What sleeping tablets do you use if you don't mind me asking?

GPs are extremely reluctant to give out benzos these days (understandably), so I just alternate OTC antihistamines every few days.

Diphenhydramine hydrochloride and dimethylethanamine.

Dimethylethanamine allegedly isn't 'addictive' and you can get it generically pretty cheap.

I dont use anything at the moment, but they've seen me through several months a few times without any problem (taken heavily).

I've have a look, thank you. "

How old are you and have you looked at private sector. For mental health expensive but better then a GP NHS my guy has kept me alive.

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
over a year ago

Hastings


"At it's worst?

Chewing sleeping tablets, candles, baths, David Attenborough, time off work, meditation...

What sleeping tablets do you use if you don't mind me asking?

I'm prescribed a mix Diazepam 10mg with 10mg zolpidem but that is through a private consultnt NHS cut it down from 28 a month to 7 so had to go private again

Diazepam scares me. I want something that works but maybe not that strong."

I'm not the BNF but there is tamazapan not as strong and shorter acting.

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By *ittle Miss Tinkerbell OP   Woman
over a year ago

your head


"Hi op

Not an expert.

I went to The Works bought some stress relief balls.. No not those. Each ball has a different smiley face. I squish them yer ok not that way. I also have a rubiks cube anxiety stress relief.

Or as not a Gp go see your Gp and speak with them. "

Ooo I have one of them actually I forgot about that. My GP is useless, I'd rather ride it out myself than fight to get an appointment with him for him to tell me I just need more fresh air.

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By *inger_SnapWoman
over a year ago

Hampshire/Dorset

If it's really bad, I just completely shut down and sleep. It's the only way my body can cope.

Other times beta blockers will help, they stop the physical thing of the heart racing which is usually what sends me into panic mode. Another one I found accidentally was chewing or sucking on mints, I always carry some with me when I'm out of the house. At night to help sleep, guided sleep meditations are good, there's loads on Spotify and you tube (I always thought they were nonsense, but they do actually work) recently I've been listening to sleep music on Spotify too, 528hz

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"At it's worst?

Chewing sleeping tablets, candles, baths, David Attenborough, time off work, meditation...

What sleeping tablets do you use if you don't mind me asking?

I'm prescribed a mix Diazepam 10mg with 10mg zolpidem but that is through a private consultnt NHS cut it down from 28 a month to 7 so had to go private again

Diazepam scares me. I want something that works but maybe not that strong.

I'm not the BNF but there is tamazapan not as strong and shorter acting. "

Tamazepam is waaaaaaay stronger.

Diazaeam is standard.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Honestly? I don’t do anything. Sometimes I feel like (for me atleast) it’s better to just let it consume me, and come out the other side. Rather than trying to delay/minimise it.

But I know that doesn’t work for everyone

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"For those who suffer (or have experience with those that do) What do you do when it completely blindsides you?

I don't mean the coping mechanisms you have for living with it day to day but for when you think your bobbing along quite fine and it comes along and pulls the rug out from underneath without rhyme or reason. "

I had this recently and honestly it made me feel vile. I get bouts of it that last 1-2 weeks (few and far between thankfully) last one was 2018.

But it consumes me, the physical side of it, the mental side, the waves of dread, stomach churning, not eating, sobbing.

I wake up and wonder how I’ll get through the day as it feels the length of a week.

I wouldn’t wish it on anyone.

I spoke to friends, my cousin who suffers and to my doctor. All helped but honestly it makes me feel so alone.

Doc sent me for blood test and I was low on folic acid so taking that now.

Thankfully it passed and I hope it stays away for another few years.

Hope you’re ok op, big hugs xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If it's really bad, I just completely shut down and sleep. It's the only way my body can cope.

Other times beta blockers will help, they stop the physical thing of the heart racing which is usually what sends me into panic mode. Another one I found accidentally was chewing or sucking on mints, I always carry some with me when I'm out of the house. At night to help sleep, guided sleep meditations are good, there's loads on Spotify and you tube (I always thought they were nonsense, but they do actually work) recently I've been listening to sleep music on Spotify too, 528hz "

Sleep is the best when you're distressed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hi op

Not an expert.

I went to The Works bought some stress relief balls.. No not those. Each ball has a different smiley face. I squish them yer ok not that way. I also have a rubiks cube anxiety stress relief.

Or as not a Gp go see your Gp and speak with them.

Ooo I have one of them actually I forgot about that. My GP is useless, I'd rather ride it out myself than fight to get an appointment with him for him to tell me I just need more fresh air. "

Not by a gp but once told if I let God in my life my anxiety would disappear

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
over a year ago

Hastings


"At it's worst?

Chewing sleeping tablets, candles, baths, David Attenborough, time off work, meditation...

What sleeping tablets do you use if you don't mind me asking?

GPs are extremely reluctant to give out benzos these days (understandably), so I just alternate OTC antihistamines every few days.

Diphenhydramine hydrochloride and dimethylethanamine.

Dimethylethanamine allegedly isn't 'addictive' and you can get it generically pretty cheap.

I dont use anything at the moment, but they've seen me through several months a few times without any problem (taken heavily).

I also find CBD oil helps but it needs to be a good one to help sleeping then a patten lavender room mist music find what helps.

I bought some expensive stuff and it did nothing for me after the first few times of using it. I literally drank that shit and it did nothing."

Just gose to show its finding what works for you I take VITALITY CBD Oral spray 1200mg

But would say I'm in a better place now than I was 10 years ago.

OP do you suffer with sleeping or pain at all

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By *ormerWelshcouple2020Man
over a year ago

Stourbridge

I’ve used the write it down technique for many years. I use it for anger and anxiety.

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over a year ago


"At it's worst?

Chewing sleeping tablets, candles, baths, David Attenborough, time off work, meditation...

What sleeping tablets do you use if you don't mind me asking?

I'm prescribed a mix Diazepam 10mg with 10mg zolpidem but that is through a private consultnt NHS cut it down from 28 a month to 7 so had to go private again

Diazepam scares me. I want something that works but maybe not that strong."

My doc gave me diazepam and propranolol which I’ve had before.

I know they’re reluctant to give diazepam out as it can be addictive, but I couldn’t have coped without it. It helped on my really bad days. Took away that horrible feeling in my chest.

I’ve not needed any for nearly two weeks now

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
over a year ago

Hastings


"At it's worst?

Chewing sleeping tablets, candles, baths, David Attenborough, time off work, meditation...

What sleeping tablets do you use if you don't mind me asking?

I'm prescribed a mix Diazepam 10mg with 10mg zolpidem but that is through a private consultnt NHS cut it down from 28 a month to 7 so had to go private again

Diazepam scares me. I want something that works but maybe not that strong.

I'm not the BNF but there is tamazapan not as strong and shorter acting.

Tamazepam is waaaaaaay stronger.

Diazaeam is standard."

Sorry no tax dose not last as long I started on the. But did not work for more then 2 hours Diazepam lasts for about 6 with me but as said its what works for you.

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By *ittle Miss Tinkerbell OP   Woman
over a year ago

your head


"At it's worst?

Chewing sleeping tablets, candles, baths, David Attenborough, time off work, meditation...

What sleeping tablets do you use if you don't mind me asking?

GPs are extremely reluctant to give out benzos these days (understandably), so I just alternate OTC antihistamines every few days.

Diphenhydramine hydrochloride and dimethylethanamine.

Dimethylethanamine allegedly isn't 'addictive' and you can get it generically pretty cheap.

I dont use anything at the moment, but they've seen me through several months a few times without any problem (taken heavily).

I also find CBD oil helps but it needs to be a good one to help sleeping then a patten lavender room mist music find what helps.

I bought some expensive stuff and it did nothing for me after the first few times of using it. I literally drank that shit and it did nothing.

Just gose to show its finding what works for you I take VITALITY CBD Oral spray 1200mg

But would say I'm in a better place now than I was 10 years ago.

OP do you suffer with sleeping or pain at all"

Sleep or lack of it, is the cause of this I think. The insomnia decided to revist at the weekend and I've been suffering since. I think it's just pure exhaustion but it's a loop I can't seem to escape at the moment.

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By *ittle Miss Tinkerbell OP   Woman
over a year ago

your head


"For those who suffer (or have experience with those that do) What do you do when it completely blindsides you?

I don't mean the coping mechanisms you have for living with it day to day but for when you think your bobbing along quite fine and it comes along and pulls the rug out from underneath without rhyme or reason.

I had this recently and honestly it made me feel vile. I get bouts of it that last 1-2 weeks (few and far between thankfully) last one was 2018.

But it consumes me, the physical side of it, the mental side, the waves of dread, stomach churning, not eating, sobbing.

I wake up and wonder how I’ll get through the day as it feels the length of a week.

I wouldn’t wish it on anyone.

I spoke to friends, my cousin who suffers and to my doctor. All helped but honestly it makes me feel so alone.

Doc sent me for blood test and I was low on folic acid so taking that now.

Thankfully it passed and I hope it stays away for another few years.

Hope you’re ok op, big hugs xx

"

Thank you. Glad you're feeling better xx

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
over a year ago

Hastings


"At it's worst?

Chewing sleeping tablets, candles, baths, David Attenborough, time off work, meditation...

What sleeping tablets do you use if you don't mind me asking?

I'm prescribed a mix Diazepam 10mg with 10mg zolpidem but that is through a private consultnt NHS cut it down from 28 a month to 7 so had to go private again

Diazepam scares me. I want something that works but maybe not that strong.

My doc gave me diazepam and propranolol which I’ve had before.

I know they’re reluctant to give diazepam out as it can be addictive, but I couldn’t have coped without it. It helped on my really bad days. Took away that horrible feeling in my chest.

I’ve not needed any for nearly two weeks now "

Good for you I also find having what I need helps reduce the symptoms in the first place so if you have been prescribed as for a repeat prescription even if you don't need it but its there if you do?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Getting to the root of the problem (through writing (finding out what makes yourself tick etc)) was the only thing I ever saw 'really' help anyone. The other things (drugs/drink etc) only masked the symptoms and prolonged the anxiety thereby making it worse. Drugs (crutches) they became ever more dependent upon.

Fear has to be faced head on to be overcome I have discovered. A horror movie might be scary to watch the first time but if someone watches it frequently it gets less scary each time. - Most people never take the first crucial step...

Nobody is incurable and 'bi-polar' and all the other names are just that... names.

"What I've got they used to call the blues" - Carpenters.

"Have no anxiety over tomorrow" - Jesus.

Anyway, best wishes to everyone suffering.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"For those who suffer (or have experience with those that do) What do you do when it completely blindsides you?

I don't mean the coping mechanisms you have for living with it day to day but for when you think your bobbing along quite fine and it comes along and pulls the rug out from underneath without rhyme or reason. "

I find the best thing to do and it's easier said than done but you have to focus, is change what you're thinking about.

Try to think about somthing random, like what kind of food you would like to eat or where you would like to go on your next holiday. Don't just think about it as a passing thought, try and put energy into it and focus on somthing different for 5 minutes. Breathe properly and remember, what ever might be giving you anxiety is probably not worth worrying about.

Anxiety is the fear of the future. Depression is the fear of the past.

You need to live in the moment, each day.

Good luck, try to focus on positivity and be mindful.

I hope that helps xxx

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
over a year ago

Hastings


"At it's worst?

Chewing sleeping tablets, candles, baths, David Attenborough, time off work, meditation...

What sleeping tablets do you use if you don't mind me asking?

GPs are extremely reluctant to give out benzos these days (understandably), so I just alternate OTC antihistamines every few days.

Diphenhydramine hydrochloride and dimethylethanamine.

Dimethylethanamine allegedly isn't 'addictive' and you can get it generically pretty cheap.

I dont use anything at the moment, but they've seen me through several months a few times without any problem (taken heavily).

I also find CBD oil helps but it needs to be a good one to help sleeping then a patten lavender room mist music find what helps.

I bought some expensive stuff and it did nothing for me after the first few times of using it. I literally drank that shit and it did nothing.

Just gose to show its finding what works for you I take VITALITY CBD Oral spray 1200mg

But would say I'm in a better place now than I was 10 years ago.

OP do you suffer with sleeping or pain at all

Sleep or lack of it, is the cause of this I think. The insomnia decided to revist at the weekend and I've been suffering since. I think it's just pure exhaustion but it's a loop I can't seem to escape at the moment. "

That's where I was at no sleep and in pain all got to much as you say like a loop till I thought if this is life fuck it. Saw a consultant and got lots of help to manage sleeping first.

Do you sleep alone or with someone ido mean sleep.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hi op again

Nettle tea is good for reducing anxiety. I drink it at times. Helps me to stay calm.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hi op again

Nettle tea is good for reducing anxiety. I drink it at times. Helps me to stay calm. "

Camomile tea and lemon balm too!

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
over a year ago

Hastings


"Getting to the root of the problem (through writing (finding out what makes yourself tick etc)) was the only thing I ever saw 'really' help anyone. The other things (drugs/drink etc) only masked the symptoms and prolonged the anxiety thereby making it worse. Drugs (crutches) they became ever more dependent upon.

Fear has to be faced head on to be overcome I have discovered. A horror movie might be scary to watch the first time but if someone watches it frequently it gets less scary each time. - Most people never take the first crucial step...

Nobody is incurable and 'bi-polar' and all the other names are just that... names.

"What I've got they used to call the blues" - Carpenters.

"Have no anxiety over tomorrow" - Jesus.

Anyway, best wishes to everyone suffering. "

It might work for me but as a dyslexia it would have to be digital or there is no way I would be able to read what I have riten.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"For those who suffer (or have experience with those that do) What do you do when it completely blindsides you?

I don't mean the coping mechanisms you have for living with it day to day but for when you think your bobbing along quite fine and it comes along and pulls the rug out from underneath without rhyme or reason.

I find the best thing to do and it's easier said than done but you have to focus, is change what you're thinking about.

Try to think about somthing random, like what kind of food you would like to eat or where you would like to go on your next holiday. Don't just think about it as a passing thought, try and put energy into it and focus on somthing different for 5 minutes. Breathe properly and remember, what ever might be giving you anxiety is probably not worth worrying about.

Anxiety is the fear of the future. Depression is the fear of the past.

You need to live in the moment, each day.

Good luck, try to focus on positivity and be mindful.

I hope that helps xxx"

Yep just a bit of brain re-wiring! (Thinking the right thoughts)... That's it. The clearer someone's mind is for that (drug and drink free) the better.

The hard way (no pain no gain) is the right way!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Getting to the root of the problem (through writing (finding out what makes yourself tick etc)) was the only thing I ever saw 'really' help anyone. The other things (drugs/drink etc) only masked the symptoms and prolonged the anxiety thereby making it worse. Drugs (crutches) they became ever more dependent upon.

Fear has to be faced head on to be overcome I have discovered. A horror movie might be scary to watch the first time but if someone watches it frequently it gets less scary each time. - Most people never take the first crucial step...

Nobody is incurable and 'bi-polar' and all the other names are just that... names.

"What I've got they used to call the blues" - Carpenters.

"Have no anxiety over tomorrow" - Jesus.

Anyway, best wishes to everyone suffering.

It might work for me but as a dyslexia it would have to be digital or there is no way I would be able to read what I have riten."

I can't read my own writing without dyslexia lol!

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
over a year ago

Hastings


"Getting to the root of the problem (through writing (finding out what makes yourself tick etc)) was the only thing I ever saw 'really' help anyone. The other things (drugs/drink etc) only masked the symptoms and prolonged the anxiety thereby making it worse. Drugs (crutches) they became ever more dependent upon.

Fear has to be faced head on to be overcome I have discovered. A horror movie might be scary to watch the first time but if someone watches it frequently it gets less scary each time. - Most people never take the first crucial step...

Nobody is incurable and 'bi-polar' and all the other names are just that... names.

"What I've got they used to call the blues" - Carpenters.

"Have no anxiety over tomorrow" - Jesus.

Anyway, best wishes to everyone suffering.

It might work for me but as a dyslexia it would have to be digital or there is no way I would be able to read what I have riten.

I can't read my own writing without dyslexia lol! "

So do you find sleeping hard I can do a month with out it might gab a hour but that's about it without meds.

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By *otoBlue69Man
over a year ago

Stockport

Home made kefir - not the rubbish sold in supermarkets. Kefir grains sat in a jar of milk on the worktop for 24 hours and then strained. Not to be taken with anti-depressants. Not only is it a mega healthy drink it acts like a gentle tranquiliser leaving you feeling calm and content.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"At it's worst?

Chewing sleeping tablets, candles, baths, David Attenborough, time off work, meditation...

What sleeping tablets do you use if you don't mind me asking?

I'm prescribed a mix Diazepam 10mg with 10mg zolpidem but that is through a private consultnt NHS cut it down from 28 a month to 7 so had to go private again

Diazepam scares me. I want something that works but maybe not that strong.

My doc gave me diazepam and propranolol which I’ve had before.

I know they’re reluctant to give diazepam out as it can be addictive, but I couldn’t have coped without it. It helped on my really bad days. Took away that horrible feeling in my chest.

I’ve not needed any for nearly two weeks now

Good for you I also find having what I need helps reduce the symptoms in the first place so if you have been prescribed as for a repeat prescription even if you don't need it but its there if you do?"

Exactly. My doctor said a few years back I rather you have it and not need it, than need it and it’s at the chemist.

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
over a year ago

Hastings


"Home made kefir - not the rubbish sold in supermarkets. Kefir grains sat in a jar of milk on the worktop for 24 hours and then strained. Not to be taken with anti-depressants. Not only is it a mega healthy drink it acts like a gentle tranquiliser leaving you feeling calm and content."

Dose this work in Almond milk

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
over a year ago

Hastings


"At it's worst?

Chewing sleeping tablets, candles, baths, David Attenborough, time off work, meditation...

What sleeping tablets do you use if you don't mind me asking?

I'm prescribed a mix Diazepam 10mg with 10mg zolpidem but that is through a private consultnt NHS cut it down from 28 a month to 7 so had to go private again

Diazepam scares me. I want something that works but maybe not that strong.

My doc gave me diazepam and propranolol which I’ve had before.

I know they’re reluctant to give diazepam out as it can be addictive, but I couldn’t have coped without it. It helped on my really bad days. Took away that horrible feeling in my chest.

I’ve not needed any for nearly two weeks now

Good for you I also find having what I need helps reduce the symptoms in the first place so if you have been prescribed as for a repeat prescription even if you don't need it but its there if you do?

Exactly. My doctor said a few years back I rather you have it and not need it, than need it and it’s at the chemist. "

Funny how having what you need means you don't need it as much.

Tried all sorts of antidepressants but had a reaction to all from an ice to flacky skin so stick with what works. Only take it as a last message as I know it can be addictive.

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By *otoBlue69Man
over a year ago

Stockport

commercial almond milk is full of junk like preservatives and thickeners. Home made almond milk would work but you would have to revive your kefir grains at intervals with a day in ordinary milk.

see https://probellies.com/blog/dangers-of-kefir/

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By *otoBlue69Man
over a year ago

Stockport

Something else that reduces anxiety is a yogurt made from a yakult starter.

Take a little bottle of yakult, add it to a litre of milk. Stir in 2 tablespoons of a prebiotic powder such as innulin or potato starch and then incubate at 38C for 36 hours. It will result in a thick yogurt which you can eat over a week.

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By *otoBlue69Man
over a year ago

Stockport

I posted the wrong link. It should have been https://culturesforhealth.com/blogs/learn/milk-kefir-almond-milk-kefir

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For anxiety I do the following,

Find a medication such as Propranolol that deals solely with the physical signs of anxiety. It does things such as keeps your heart rate from spiking, panic responses are lessened.

Self refer for a mental health service, Usually CBT unless your anxiety is triggered by trauma which would be better going with DBT.

Seek community, forums often help anxiety sufferers to connect with people going through the same thing.

If you need a quick fix, Suck a sour or sweet boiled sweet, this triggers calming effects but also grounds you. Cool towel on palms, wrists, back of neck, forehead, this sensation will switch your body into using receptors that deal with physical discomfort. Play with your lips or ears, this causes leftover calming sensations from being a baby and being breastfed. Also deep breathing helps.

I would also recommend you put yourself forward for a ADHD assessment, especially if you are a woman because often ADHD masks as anxiety.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Also Just to say as a medical professional I am trained in this, yet I have ADHD, PTSD, BPD and anxiety and tried to kill myself 3 times so it really can be hit and miss.

The natural remedies people have mentioned will all help as part of a healthy lifestyle. However if you are at a point where you need help a self referral at your local GP should only take 2 weeks now. GP referrals take longer if the GP refers the patient.

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By *ilfCrumpet9Man
over a year ago

Wirral

Prefer to be on my own in a quiet place.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Home made kefir - not the rubbish sold in supermarkets. Kefir grains sat in a jar of milk on the worktop for 24 hours and then strained. Not to be taken with anti-depressants. Not only is it a mega healthy drink it acts like a gentle tranquiliser leaving you feeling calm and content."

Kefir can cause palpitations. So can yoghurt, cacao (chocolate)... I'm just saying; just incase someone were to try it and get a fright.

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