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By *exy fireman OP   Man
over a year ago

essex

i went to the doctors back in the summer and was shocked when she told me i was suffering from depression! i told her that i did not want to take drugs but was persuaded otherwise !

since then i have spoken with literally hundreds of people with 'depression!'

some in their early twenties !

i was not referred to a specialist so therefore took the word of a GP!

are doctors to quick to diagnose and prescribe anti- depression tablets?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Out of interest, why do you mention people in their early twenties specifically? Do you think there's some reason that people in that age group shouldn't suffer from mood disorders?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"i went to the doctors back in the summer and was shocked when she told me i was suffering from depression! i told her that i did not want to take drugs but was persuaded otherwise !

since then i have spoken with literally hundreds of people with 'depression!'

some in their early twenties !

i was not referred to a specialist so therefore took the word of a GP!

are doctors to quick to diagnose and prescribe anti- depression tablets?"

yes

ive been offers fluoxetine several times by my doc but ive never taken them because i know i dont need them

It seems to be the answer to everything now days, if you feeling down they just dish them out, we all have off days dont mean we need to take pills

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By *exy fireman OP   Man
over a year ago

essex


"Out of interest, why do you mention people in their early twenties specifically? Do you think there's some reason that people in that age group shouldn't suffer from mood disorders?"

i am just shocked with the amount of youngsters who suffer from it! i am not convinced that doctors get it right all of the time

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By *aceytopWoman
over a year ago

from a town near you


"i went to the doctors back in the summer and was shocked when she told me i was suffering from depression! i told her that i did not want to take drugs but was persuaded otherwise !

since then i have spoken with literally hundreds of people with 'depression!'

some in their early twenties !

i was not referred to a specialist so therefore took the word of a GP!

are doctors to quick to diagnose and prescribe anti- depression tablets?"
you didnt say if the tablets have helped you,i suffer from clinical depression and have done since i was 15,its achemical imbalance therefore when i need the tablets i take them,i havent needed to for about 5 years now but would take them again if needed

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By *ub bbwWoman
over a year ago

oldbury

I am a long term sufferer no they aren't quick to diagnose it mine went undetected for years. You must have gone there with some related problem for you to be diagnosed with it and answered the questionaire? You are lucky getting diagnosed before it cripples your life and gets out of control. I finally got diagnosed when I was 28 talking to my doctor she thinks I'd had it at least ten years undiagnosed. I ended up with anxiety attacks and agoraphobia

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By *aceytopWoman
over a year ago

from a town near you


"i went to the doctors back in the summer and was shocked when she told me i was suffering from depression! i told her that i did not want to take drugs but was persuaded otherwise !

since then i have spoken with literally hundreds of people with 'depression!'

some in their early twenties !

i was not referred to a specialist so therefore took the word of a GP!

are doctors to quick to diagnose and prescribe anti- depression tablets?

yes

ive been offers fluoxetine several times by my doc but ive never taken them because i know i dont need them

It seems to be the answer to everything now days, if you feeling down they just dish them out, we all have off days dont mean we need to take pills"
if you are having an off day ,you havent got depression

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

Did your GP give you the questionnaire? Some GPs probably do prescribe too easily. Good ones don't. Did you take the prescription, get it filled and take the anti-depressants? If so, have they helped?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Loads of people suffer from depression. From teenagers to OAP's.

There are two types, inbuilt depression due to say an imbalance or illness, and reactive depression which is due to some external trigger.

The first line of treatment in the nhs is anti depressant medication, even for reactive depression because waiting lists for counselors and talking therapies is so long.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"i went to the doctors back in the summer and was shocked when she told me i was suffering from depression! i told her that i did not want to take drugs but was persuaded otherwise !

since then i have spoken with literally hundreds of people with 'depression!'

some in their early twenties !

i was not referred to a specialist so therefore took the word of a GP!

are doctors to quick to diagnose and prescribe anti- depression tablets?

yes

ive been offers fluoxetine several times by my doc but ive never taken them because i know i dont need them

It seems to be the answer to everything now days, if you feeling down they just dish them out, we all have off days dont mean we need to take pills

if you are having an off day ,you havent got depression"

i know thats my point

yet ive been offered fluoxetine when ive been to the dr and had a rant about something, when i know full well im not depressed im just having a rant lol

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By *i 1 Get 1 FreeCouple (MM)
over a year ago

birmingham


"i was not referred to a specialist so therefore took the word of a GP"

GPs have a “5” minute patient turn around, experienced they may be, but it takes a “Specialist” to diagnose you correctly, go back to your GP and demand a referral.

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By *exy fireman OP   Man
over a year ago

essex


"I am a long term sufferer no they aren't quick to diagnose it mine went undetected for years. You must have gone there with some related problem for you to be diagnosed with it and answered the questionaire? You are lucky getting diagnosed before it cripples your life and gets out of control. I finally got diagnosed when I was 28 talking to my doctor she thinks I'd had it at least ten years undiagnosed. I ended up with anxiety attacks and agoraphobia "

i was getting anxiety attacks at night, i was waking up convinced that i was about to die, was actually quite scary to be honest! and my doc said the same thing, thought that i have been suffering with it for 10 years !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Did your GP give you the questionnaire? Some GPs probably do prescribe too easily. Good ones don't. Did you take the prescription, get it filled and take the anti-depressants? If so, have they helped?"

There is indeed an nhs questionnaire designed on a points system. Over so many points indicates a risk for despression and need for treatment and in severe cases psychiatric referral.

You have to take most pills for about 4-6 weeks before you see a difference, and if the first ones you try dont work try sommat different.

Counselling is better though if you can get it.

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By *exy fireman OP   Man
over a year ago

essex


"Did your GP give you the questionnaire? Some GPs probably do prescribe too easily. Good ones don't. Did you take the prescription, get it filled and take the anti-depressants? If so, have they helped?"

yes i did the questionnaire and it showed as a little depression but higher anxiety ! am still popping the tablets and don't feel any different to what i did before !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"i was not referred to a specialist so therefore took the word of a GP

GPs have a “5” minute patient turn around, experienced they may be, but it takes a “Specialist” to diagnose you correctly, go back to your GP and demand a referral."

I'd agree with this.

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By *ub bbwWoman
over a year ago

oldbury


"I am a long term sufferer no they aren't quick to diagnose it mine went undetected for years. You must have gone there with some related problem for you to be diagnosed with it and answered the questionaire? You are lucky getting diagnosed before it cripples your life and gets out of control. I finally got diagnosed when I was 28 talking to my doctor she thinks I'd had it at least ten years undiagnosed. I ended up with anxiety attacks and agoraphobia

i was getting anxiety attacks at night, i was waking up convinced that i was about to die, was actually quite scary to be honest! and my doc said the same thing, thought that i have been suffering with it for 10 years !"

I'm living with those at the moment I never used to get them without a trigger now I have them for no apparent reason. They are exhausting and leave me drained.

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By *aceytopWoman
over a year ago

from a town near you


"i went to the doctors back in the summer and was shocked when she told me i was suffering from depression! i told her that i did not want to take drugs but was persuaded otherwise !

since then i have spoken with literally hundreds of people with 'depression!'

some in their early twenties !

i was not referred to a specialist so therefore took the word of a GP!

are doctors to quick to diagnose and prescribe anti- depression tablets?

yes

ive been offers fluoxetine several times by my doc but ive never taken them because i know i dont need them

It seems to be the answer to everything now days, if you feeling down they just dish them out, we all have off days dont mean we need to take pills

if you are having an off day ,you havent got depression

i know thats my point

yet ive been offered fluoxetine when ive been to the dr and had a rant about something, when i know full well im not depressed im just having a rant lol"
sorry,i see what you meant

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"Did your GP give you the questionnaire? Some GPs probably do prescribe too easily. Good ones don't. Did you take the prescription, get it filled and take the anti-depressants? If so, have they helped?

yes i did the questionnaire and it showed as a little depression but higher anxiety ! am still popping the tablets and don't feel any different to what i did before !"

You may not be on the right medication. It takes time for the effects to build up in your system and they help but don't fix you. If you are still getting anxiety attacks at night you need to go back and try a different anti-depressant.

I know when I am depressed and when I just have the blues. It feels completely different. When it is depression I know I need to take something and do some work on my head.

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By *i 1 Get 1 FreeCouple (MM)
over a year ago

birmingham


"Counselling is better though if you can get it. "

To some extent, you can counsel yourself get a wall chart, tick everyday that's a good day, x for everyday that's a bad day, do this for a month, youll see how many bad day's your experiencing.

If you can, walk backwards (not literally) try and identify when the 1st episode occurred, what triggered it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Did your GP give you the questionnaire? Some GPs probably do prescribe too easily. Good ones don't. Did you take the prescription, get it filled and take the anti-depressants? If so, have they helped?

yes i did the questionnaire and it showed as a little depression but higher anxiety ! am still popping the tablets and don't feel any different to what i did before !"

For anxiety the meds are usually slighty different. Beta blockers work unless contra indicated.

If you are unhappy with the treatment, or diagnosis, go back, explain that you are still down, or anxious, or that you still have whatever symptoms, and ask for re examination and referral to the aproppriate person.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The wife was diagnosed with depression, she was told to take drugs, but she faought it a bit then she was told out group therapy. See if you can get this.

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

Exercise does help...

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge


"i went to the doctors back in the summer and was shocked when she told me i was suffering from depression! i told her that i did not want to take drugs but was persuaded otherwise !

since then i have spoken with literally hundreds of people with 'depression!'

some in their early twenties !

i was not referred to a specialist so therefore took the word of a GP!

are doctors to quick to diagnose and prescribe anti- depression tablets?"

I was offered anti-depressants after each of my parents died. I refused them since I was not depressed. I was grieving. I think SOME doctors see them as a quick fix.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"i went to the doctors back in the summer and was shocked when she told me i was suffering from depression! i told her that i did not want to take drugs but was persuaded otherwise !

since then i have spoken with literally hundreds of people with 'depression!'

some in their early twenties !

i was not referred to a specialist so therefore took the word of a GP!

are doctors to quick to diagnose and prescribe anti- depression tablets?

I was offered anti-depressants after each of my parents died. I refused them since I was not depressed. I was grieving. I think SOME doctors see them as a quick fix."

Indeed they do "/ counselling is far more expensive and waiting lists for it are long.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I suffer from it every now and then and I am only 24! I really don't know why.

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

I totally disagree with 'suffer from depression'.... It is live with depression. It is a mindset that will start the journey back.

to all people living with it x

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"I totally disagree with 'suffer from depression'.... It is live with depression. It is a mindset that will start the journey back.

to all people living with it x"

Absolutely, and for everything - we are all living with something. Yes, sometimes we feel pain and suffering but we are still living with it.

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By *i 1 Get 1 FreeCouple (MM)
over a year ago

birmingham

Without getting to heavy, for those who need someone to talk to there and then, never under estimate The Samaritans, they can be very supportive in one's hour of need.

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn


"Without getting to heavy, for those who need someone to talk to there and then, never under estimate The Samaritans, they can be very supportive in one's hour of need. "

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

Part of my symptoms of bipolar, mirror those with depression, anxiety, panic attacks, agophobia. I take around 20 tablets aday and somedays that will just get me out of bed. I can rarely leave the house on my own. Ive been doing cbtfor ten years which has helped with the anger.When my day died he just gave me two weeks worth of diazapam as he didnt want to numb the grieve as its a nautral reaction and may have come out of me in another way

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The saddest thing about depression is the isolation that you feel. That you are completely alone in what you are dealing with.

And then someone starts talking and you realise that one in four people suffers from a mental health problem.

Supporting one another can be the biggest help through these things.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

True depression is dibilitating, m,y doctor is fanatstic, but i do know some doctors wil just prsecribe something so that they have got to go through the other processes. You can get private councelly, but last time i looked it was 18 months to get on nhs cbt funded, thats if they have cbt in your area

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By *i 1 Get 1 FreeCouple (MM)
over a year ago

birmingham


"you realise that one in four people suffers from a mental health problem"

I don't accept that, the OP confirms, to many GP are far to eager to write “depression” on someone's medical record.

We're living in a very challenging society, bills / employment / family issues, etc., etc., there is a real difference between being pissed off and true depression.

And that's not inteded to be offensive to those who've been diagnosed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My son was violently attacked and left for dead when he was just 17 and to say things were bad , would be an understatement.

After the physical healing, we had to deal with the mental side of things.

He got severly depressed and wouldnt go out.

I would have to either walk with him or send him by taxi...or his mates would take him here and there, never leaving him alone.

He refused to take medication at the time so i got him some st johns wort and although herbal....it did help.

It took a cpl of yrs in total and i still worried about the long term effects of the attack.....

Depression is an unseen illness which needs the support of all .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"you realise that one in four people suffers from a mental health problem

I don't accept that, the OP confirms, to many GP are far to eager to write “depression” on someone's medical record.

We're living in a very challenging society, bills / employment / family issues, etc., etc., there is a real difference between being pissed off and true depression.

And that's not inteded to be offensive to those who've been diagnosed "

Statistics from the mental health foundation. Sadly, one in four people suffer a period of mental health problems or are diagnosed with mental illness.

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By *i 1 Get 1 FreeCouple (MM)
over a year ago

birmingham


"Statistics from the mental health foundation"

Debate about where the information is generated from to produce statistics is not for this thread

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Statistics from the mental health foundation

Debate about where the information is generated from to produce statistics is not for this thread"

So drop it then.

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By *i 1 Get 1 FreeCouple (MM)
over a year ago

birmingham


"Statistics from the mental health foundation

So drop it then."

Err you instigated it re statistics, I simply replied to your comment!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not too long ago I went to my GP, about depression. I was given the questionnare sheet, got a very high score. Luckily my doctor asked me what I wanted to do. I said that I wanted to talk to someone. I referred myself to get asessed by a psychologist. Before I was seen, I went to see the doctor but it wasn't the one I usually see and asked for medication. I was given citalopram. I was annoyed that the doctor didn't talk about the med. I did get asessed, but while I was talking about what I was experiencing, seemed like have symptoms of bipolar disorder. Now I'm referred somewhere else and now I'm going to be asessed again.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Out of interest, why do you mention people in their early twenties specifically? Do you think there's some reason that people in that age group shouldn't suffer from mood disorders?

i am just shocked with the amount of youngsters who suffer from it! i am not convinced that doctors get it right all of the time "

Well, no... It would be something of a miracle if doctors (or anyone else for that matter) got absolutely everything right all the time, wouldn't it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In answer to your question op - no they are not too quick to diagnose and prescribe depression.

I have lived with depression for the last 8 years of my life. I now understand my triggers, and understand how I can help to combat it. But I also know sometimes it will get so bad I need medication.

I think that now society it becoming more tolerant towards depression, and its not just brushed under the carpet.

The fact that we have more "famous" people promoting it helps.

I have seen the effects of depression, and that's why I do my bit to raise money for mental health charities. Watch this space as Iwill bbe asking for sponsorship later in the year.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I survived a deceleration impact at 60mph which left me with significant injuries, an accident which left people dead and others injured. I had real issues relating to anger at self for not being able to help those who died and for the fear I experienced during the accident. Wasn't able to talk about it until over the past couple of months as the environment was not good.

Seems silly as I'm not a medic nor was I in control of the accident so fear was a sane response but that's being human for you. We can blame ourselves for the actions of others. Or others for our own actions.

What can happen is displacement during depression. For example; some typical chancer tit on a cam wants to play your partner. You would normally shrug it aside but instead the anger abt the accident becomes displaced onto the typical chancers. Again probably fed by anxiety that would not have been present previously. I know this for sure.

Likewise anger can be more extreme than before. I'm just glad I was never physically abusive but I can see where it led to verbal abuse with my ex albeit reactive and grounded in real stuff. You don't degrade a man weekly whilst d*unk - nor your 'friends' - then moan when the man loses the head 6 times in a year (albeit I do have a nasty mouth and temper when I do and can degrade back like the worst of em in full flight which was a bit of a realization I needed to accept)!

Nor should adults involve themselves in such a situation without the knowledge or maturity and expect anything other than anger as a reaction. Nothing but contempt is what I hold for such types and that remains as I'm human and no saint.

It is a horrid experience to have depression - as others here will know - and its taken a lot over the very recent period for me to lift myself out of it. I luckily got freed from a physically and mentally abusive binge drinker as a partner with her own issues - so I am in a better place daily. A sign of my depression was the fact I took the shit so long as many friends were stunned I had - that's fabcams for you - but its a struggle at times to process it all. Ongoing and very human.

I'm the survivor at the end of the day. A big realization. I also realized though you need to let go to be strong and that process is the trick to my own recovery from a serious trauma and the depression that came with it. It is ongoing but definitely talking helps. To adults not idiots.

All depressions are thought based. It is anger turned in and best to get to the root, see it for what it is, then deal with it as it is not how you wish it to be. We are all human. To err is human. To lose is human. To win too. Letting go is the key I find to a healthier state of mind - no pills - but it is ongoing and luckily real friends have come forward to show their class at this time to help as well as a very compassionate employer. So my advice is get honest abt your depression and deal with the source and ensure the environment is not maintaining the depression.

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By *he_original_poloWoman
over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester


"i went to the doctors back in the summer and was shocked when she told me i was suffering from depression! i told her that i did not want to take drugs but was persuaded otherwise !

since then i have spoken with literally hundreds of people with 'depression!'

some in their early twenties !

i was not referred to a specialist so therefore took the word of a GP!

are doctors to quick to diagnose and prescribe anti- depression tablets?"

Yes some are.... but then a few years back the GP's were being slated for not recognising depression quick enough and so some went to the other extreme to cover their arse.

It is quite worrying just how many people spend 5-10 minutes with a GP they barely know and come out of the room with a prescription for drugs they may be stuck on for life.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

To be honest though there,s alot of people out there who just need to get on with life, and use depression as a excuse. Seen it first hand Family member using it to stay on sickness benefits and also to another to justify his drinking. In the civil service is rife with it,

Kids and youngsters, sorry but some just need to get a grip and get on with life yeah its hard, but some are just to weak or lazy to do anything about it.

Weve had some major issues in our lifes over the time, but we spoke to each other and moved on in life and got on with it.

This is not ment for them that do have serious genuine depression and our thoughts are with you,

But like said some just need to get a grip and get on with it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To be honest though there,s alot of people out there who just need to get on with life, and use depression as a excuse. Seen it first hand Family member using it to stay on sickness benefits and also to another to justify his drinking. In the civil service is rife with it,

Kids and youngsters, sorry but some just need to get a grip and get on with life yeah its hard, but some are just to weak or lazy to do anything about it.

Weve had some major issues in our lifes over the time, but we spoke to each other and moved on in life and got on with it.

This is not ment for them that do have serious genuine depression and our thoughts are with you,

But like said some just need to get a grip and get on with it"

Erm are you a doctor, psychologist, psychiatrist or any such qualified person that would hold an opinion worth listening to on this because anyone here with depression would tell you how damaging your points of _iew are.

Weak? How is it weak to battle through a day when wanting it to end? Permanently? Still surviving such thoughts? You call that weak?

I think you exemplify in your posts that point I made about talking to adults not idiots.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To be honest though there,s alot of people out there who just need to get on with life, and use depression as a excuse. Seen it first hand Family member using it to stay on sickness benefits and also to another to justify his drinking. In the civil service is rife with it,

Kids and youngsters, sorry but some just need to get a grip and get on with life yeah its hard, but some are just to weak or lazy to do anything about it.

Weve had some major issues in our lifes over the time, but we spoke to each other and moved on in life and got on with it.

This is not ment for them that do have serious genuine depression and our thoughts are with you,

But like said some just need to get a grip and get on with it

Erm are you a doctor, psychologist, psychiatrist or any such qualified person that would hold an opinion worth listening to on this because anyone here with depression would tell you how damaging your points of _iew are.

Weak? How is it weak to battle through a day when wanting it to end? Permanently? Still surviving such thoughts? You call that weak?

I think you exemplify in your posts that point I made about talking to adults not idiots."

So your telling me everyone who has a down moment is depressed and no one uses this term depression to get out of work or excuse their behavour that was the point i made and yeah some people are weak who instantly seek medication or a term to give up or give in.

As a couple between us we have experienced things in life that would break people and make them run to the doctors b ut no we got on with it and dealt with it, no depression no medication,

And by no means am i a idiot and take offence, I have a opion and thats my right and you have yours but that doesnt make you a idiot does it , if your opion is different to mine.

Some poeple like you need to get a grip of life

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

Depression isnt something that iscause by things that have happened in you life unless you have reactive or clinic depression.

My father has just died and what im experiencing normal" grieve, Yet something extremel trial could put my in a canatonic deprssve staight. You try telling those people to just geet on with it. You obviouxly have know knowledge of depression

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By *ctavius StuntMan
over a year ago

london


"To be honest though there,s alot of people out there who just need to get on with life, and use depression as a excuse. Seen it first hand Family member using it to stay on sickness benefits and also to another to justify his drinking. In the civil service is rife with it,

Kids and youngsters, sorry but some just need to get a grip and get on with life yeah its hard, but some are just to weak or lazy to do anything about it.

Weve had some major issues in our lifes over the time, but we spoke to each other and moved on in life and got on with it.

This is not ment for them that do have serious genuine depression and our thoughts are with you,

But like said some just need to get a grip and get on with it

Erm are you a doctor, psychologist, psychiatrist or any such qualified person that would hold an opinion worth listening to on this because anyone here with depression would tell you how damaging your points of _iew are.

Weak? How is it weak to battle through a day when wanting it to end? Permanently? Still surviving such thoughts? You call that weak?

I think you exemplify in your posts that point I made about talking to adults not idiots.

So your telling me everyone who has a down moment is depressed and no one uses this term depression to get out of work or excuse their behavour that was the point i made and yeah some people are weak who instantly seek medication or a term to give up or give in.

As a couple between us we have experienced things in life that would break people and make them run to the doctors b ut no we got on with it and dealt with it, no depression no medication,

And by no means am i a idiot and take offence, I have a opion and thats my right and you have yours but that doesnt make you a idiot does it , if your opion is different to mine.

Some poeple like you need to get a grip of life "

Jesus how ignorant and misinformed can you be !

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

Theres a saying. "walk a mile in my shoes"

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By *ub bbwWoman
over a year ago

oldbury


"To be honest though there,s alot of people out there who just need to get on with life, and use depression as a excuse. Seen it first hand Family member using it to stay on sickness benefits and also to another to justify his drinking. In the civil service is rife with it,

Kids and youngsters, sorry but some just need to get a grip and get on with life yeah its hard, but some are just to weak or lazy to do anything about it.

Weve had some major issues in our lifes over the time, but we spoke to each other and moved on in life and got on with it.

This is not ment for them that do have serious genuine depression and our thoughts are with you,

But like said some just need to get a grip and get on with it

Erm are you a doctor, psychologist, psychiatrist or any such qualified person that would hold an opinion worth listening to on this because anyone here with depression would tell you how damaging your points of _iew are.

Weak? How is it weak to battle through a day when wanting it to end? Permanently? Still surviving such thoughts? You call that weak?

I think you exemplify in your posts that point I made about talking to adults not idiots.

So your telling me everyone who has a down moment is depressed and no one uses this term depression to get out of work or excuse their behavour that was the point i made and yeah some people are weak who instantly seek medication or a term to give up or give in.

As a couple between us we have experienced things in life that would break people and make them run to the doctors b ut no we got on with it and dealt with it, no depression no medication,

And by no means am i a idiot and take offence, I have a opion and thats my right and you have yours but that doesnt make you a idiot does it , if your opion is different to mine.

Some poeple like you need to get a grip of life "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I started taking anti deps around 8 months after being diagnosed with heart failure and i my mood was making my life and my wife's terrible, after taking the tablets things are much much better.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire


"Out of interest, why do you mention people in their early twenties specifically? Do you think there's some reason that people in that age group shouldn't suffer from mood disorders?

i am just shocked with the amount of youngsters who suffer from it! i am not convinced that doctors get it right all of the time "

That is why doctors refer you to specialists who can diagose what is wrong with you. We have lots of help in this country, your first port of call should be your doctor and thn go znd s oher peole or are more aulaified

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If any of you actually read did i say at anytime that all or did i say some people use it as a excuse and if you lot believe it doesnt happen then you are the ignorant ones not us, and typical of this nanny pampered state this country is in,

Ive seen first hand people using this excuse to get away with things or being lazy, Worked in a department that nearly half the staff was of with so called Depression yet most was out on the tiles taking drugs and drinking and just using this excuse, hard to diagnose true depression and can be played on by many.

Thats my point

and some people are very weak minded and run to the doctors on the slightest of things

Are we wrong NO

But there is some very deserving people out there that need help for genuine depression like in our post we said our thoughts are with you.

But to the rest get on with it pffft

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

Huge difference between depression and the feel sorry for themselves brigade, think that is the point they are trying to make and I agree.

Social networking sites have added to it... they can get as much attention as they seek and be better in hours.

The people with depression will attend the appointments, the sessions, the therapies, take the medication and do everything they can to live with it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was prescribed anti depressants several times over the years by gp but they made my condition worse. No wonder as finally i got diagnosed as bipolar 4 yrs ago, and i shud not hav been given those drugs. Now im referd to a psychiatrist im on the correct mood stabilising meds its a revelation. Gps shud not prescribe these powerful and often addictive drugs willy nilly but they do :-/

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have , at work, just recently handled my second mental breakdown.

The first was a manager who I sat with and eventually sent home , I am only the union rep so way out if my remit , but seemed to be the only one with compassion.

That one disturbed me because he is a very outgoing chap and he was coming apart.

The more recent one profoundly shocked me .

He is a big chap who can clearly handle his way through life except now it is obvious he cannot .

He came to see me about a problem which I sorted out.

A bit later he came round again but this time he was crying , trying to keep some if his dignity intact I got him away from his colleagues only for him to start banging his head on the wall , i tried to get help but they were all useless and got a female manager ( it was a male one who upset him ) to help and together we stopped him hurting himself and also from leaving .

He is back at work and on happy pills but it deeply upset me .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Huge difference between depression and the feel sorry for themselves brigade, think that is the point they are trying to make and I agree.

Social networking sites have added to it... they can get as much attention as they seek and be better in hours.

The people with depression will attend the appointments, the sessions, the therapies, take the medication and do everything they can to live with it."

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By *ub bbwWoman
over a year ago

oldbury


"

As a couple between us we have experienced things in life that would break people and make them run to the doctors b ut no we got on with it and dealt with it, no depression no medication,

Some poeple like you need to get a grip of life "

You are obviously lucky enough to have enough support around you. I grew up being abused and neglected with no one to turn to but managed to handle my depression until I lost my child that broke me and I have suffered ever since. I now have a good man who does support me but it doesn't mean I'm weak if anything the fact I sought help surely means I'm strong as I get up every day and get on with life yes I take pills to help however this not a woe with me post I just think people who pass judgements on people with mental health issues need to try to understand it's not just a case of getting on with life and dealing with stuff.

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If someone feels they are not coping with their life,or fears for the future, to the extent that it interferes with their ability to function then they are right and entitled to seek help..even if their perceived reasons or triggers may seem trivial or fake to others. None of us know what goes on inside the head of someone else..sometimes even when you are living with them so how can non-qualified people judge who is genuinely in need of help or is trying to work the system ?

Ignorance and prejudice towards mental health issues are so destructive and god forbid those that judge others easily find themselves in a situation where needing professional support is the only option.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

Think a some on this thread need to go visit a psyciatric ward, then i think they will change there mid. Depression comes out in different people in so many ways, i think you need your eyes opening to the word of depression and depression related illnesses

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By *i 1 Get 1 FreeCouple (MM)
over a year ago

birmingham


"It is quite worrying just how many people spend 5-10 minutes with a GP they barely know and come out of the room with a prescription for drugs they may be stuck on for life."

^^^ what she said

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

As a couple between us we have experienced things in life that would break people and make them run to the doctors b ut no we got on with it and dealt with it, no depression no medication,

Some poeple like you need to get a grip of life

You are obviously lucky enough to have enough support around you. I grew up being abused and neglected with no one to turn to but managed to handle my depression until I lost my child that broke me and I have suffered ever since. I now have a good man who does support me but it doesn't mean I'm weak if anything the fact I sought help surely means I'm strong as I get up every day and get on with life yes I take pills to help however this not a woe with me post I just think people who pass judgements on people with mental health issues need to try to understand it's not just a case of getting on with life and dealing with stuff."

and our post wasnt aimed at genuine depression and very easy to take snip bits out of any text to make us sound bad, we arent and have genuine feelings for people who have genuine depression,

but some like said are just creaming this Hard to diagnose Illness and that doesnt help the genuine cases. Not us by pointing the facts out people do use this as a excuse ( note not all)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Huge difference between depression and the feel sorry for themselves brigade, think that is the point they are trying to make and I agree.

Social networking sites have added to it... they can get as much attention as they seek and be better in hours.

The people with depression will attend the appointments, the sessions, the therapies, take the medication and do everything they can to live with it."

I agree that there is a huge difference but that was not exactly the point made View.

The comments on youth for example as if being young was an immunity against mental health issues which can arise in life were not good. To rattle off a list of what someone considers to be people 'feeling sorry for themselves' and include all manners of life areas where depression can indeed be present and appeal to some idea of being 'strong' and contrast that to 'weak' only to then end with a qualification of everyone who is genuinely depressed is deserving of empathy is pretty appalling.

I'm sorry but if the point trying to be made was a distinction can be drawn then it is easily made. You just did it.

World of a difference View.

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By *ub bbwWoman
over a year ago

oldbury


"

As a couple between us we have experienced things in life that would break people and make them run to the doctors b ut no we got on with it and dealt with it, no depression no medication,

Some poeple like you need to get a grip of life

You are obviously lucky enough to have enough support around you. I grew up being abused and neglected with no one to turn to but managed to handle my depression until I lost my child that broke me and I have suffered ever since. I now have a good man who does support me but it doesn't mean I'm weak if anything the fact I sought help surely means I'm strong as I get up every day and get on with life yes I take pills to help however this not a woe with me post I just think people who pass judgements on people with mental health issues need to try to understand it's not just a case of getting on with life and dealing with stuff.

and our post wasnt aimed at genuine depression and very easy to take snip bits out of any text to make us sound bad, we arent and have genuine feelings for people who have genuine depression,

but some like said are just creaming this Hard to diagnose Illness and that doesnt help the genuine cases. Not us by pointing the facts out people do use this as a excuse ( note not all) "
you did come across as a bit blase towards it tho

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Think a some on this thread need to go visit a psyciatric ward, then i think they will change there mid. Depression comes out in different people in so many ways, i think you need your eyes opening to the word of depression and depression related illnesses"

We have thanks but doesnt change our _iew that there is Genuine cases of depression then there is people using depression as a excuse to be lazy or excuse there behaviour,

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn


"Huge difference between depression and the feel sorry for themselves brigade, think that is the point they are trying to make and I agree.

Social networking sites have added to it... they can get as much attention as they seek and be better in hours.

The people with depression will attend the appointments, the sessions, the therapies, take the medication and do everything they can to live with it.

I agree that there is a huge difference but that was not exactly the point made View.

The comments on youth for example as if being young was an immunity against mental health issues which can arise in life were not good. To rattle off a list of what someone considers to be people 'feeling sorry for themselves' and include all manners of life areas where depression can indeed be present and appeal to some idea of being 'strong' and contrast that to 'weak' only to then end with a qualification of everyone who is genuinely depressed is deserving of empathy is pretty appalling.

I'm sorry but if the point trying to be made was a distinction can be drawn then it is easily made. You just did it.

World of a difference View.

"

same applies to young and older, that I share

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By *ctavius StuntMan
over a year ago

london

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By *ctavius StuntMan
over a year ago

london

who are these weird people who use posts like this to push their right wing govt inspired agendas ?

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By *i 1 Get 1 FreeCouple (MM)
over a year ago

birmingham


"We have thanks but doesnt change our _iew that there is Genuine cases of depression then there is people using depression as a excuse to be lazy or excuse there behaviour"

“Self” diagnosis is never recommended, however, as per the OP, someone attends a GP surgery due to feeling “Pissed Off” they come out labelled as “Depressive” is it any wonder we have 1 in 4 diagnosed with a mental health issue

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By *ctavius StuntMan
over a year ago

london


"We have thanks but doesnt change our _iew that there is Genuine cases of depression then there is people using depression as a excuse to be lazy or excuse there behaviour

“Self” diagnosis is never recommended, however, as per the OP, someone attends a GP surgery due to feeling “Pissed Off” they come out labelled as “Depressive” is it any wonder we have 1 in 4 diagnosed with a mental health issue "

It almost sounds like you know what you are talking about. Like you know how someone gets diagnosed with depression. Its blatantly clear though that you dont have the first idea.

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By *i 1 Get 1 FreeCouple (MM)
over a year ago

birmingham


"Its blatantly clear though that you dont have the first idea."

You're entitled to your opinion

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By *yronMan
over a year ago

grangemouth

When I was a student, the student health service were far too quick to hand out anti-depressants to people. I was diagnosed with depression there, but not given any actual help beyond a repeat prescription.

When I left Uni and went home, my local GP was 100 times more supportive - he asked me if I wanted to continue using anti-depressants (I said no) and told me about help groups and things to avoid. I'm a lot better now than I was before, although I still get the odd bad bout.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"who are these weird people who use posts like this to push their right wing govt inspired agendas ?"

Funny I was just thinking that.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Think a some on this thread need to go visit a psyciatric ward, then i think they will change there mid. Depression comes out in different people in so many ways, i think you need your eyes opening to the word of depression and depression related illnesses

We have thanks but doesnt change our _iew that there is Genuine cases of depression then there is people using depression as a excuse to be lazy or excuse there behaviour, "

Oh people make up all kind of shit to excuse their behaviour and that is pretty human. You think adults aren't aware of that? Is this your great revelation after all that you have stated? Wow.

The issue of GPs applying depression is a real one that others have raised in a serious adult manner. However again you seem to wish to take it to a place where you can judge and do so on the most simplistic - and I repeat - idiotic lines.

Who are you to know all the ins and outs of any situation other than your own? Do you know the person who you claim is non genuine? Why would anyone choose to be lazy? What benefits could be had from being lazy in this world of a 55 quid per week giro or forced to work for a supermarket for 79 quid per week?

Also why does depression equate to not working in your mind? I work. I worked through depression and my time off has been due to the physical aspects seeing a chiropractor. However they have been compassionate in the sense they have paid for counselling for me. Got that part?

Also how can someone excuse their behaviour as depression? It does change behaviours. Why do you think it is recognized as an illness? So you would be judge and jury on who was genuine and not and on what grounds? You are no expert so what grounds?

Bias? Hearsay? Cliquism? Idiocy? Which...because I see no sign of substance in your posts.

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By *evilwolfCouple
over a year ago

Leicestershire

It's only people who care who end up with depression.

Those who don't give a shit for anyone or anything are somehow immune from it, and singularly fail to appreciate that others suffer with it, sometimes lifelong.

Wolf

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over a year ago


"It's only people who care who end up with depression.

Those who don't give a shit for anyone or anything are somehow immune from it, and singularly fail to appreciate that others suffer with it, sometimes lifelong.

Wolf"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Think a some on this thread need to go visit a psyciatric ward, then i think they will change there mid. Depression comes out in different people in so many ways, i think you need your eyes opening to the word of depression and depression related illnesses

We have thanks but doesnt change our _iew that there is Genuine cases of depression then there is people using depression as a excuse to be lazy or excuse there behaviour,

Oh people make up all kind of shit to excuse their behaviour and that is pretty human. You think adults aren't aware of that? Is this your great revelation after all that you have stated? Wow.

The issue of GPs applying depression is a real one that others have raised in a serious adult manner. However again you seem to wish to take it to a place where you can judge and do so on the most simplistic - and I repeat - idiotic lines.

Who are you to know all the ins and outs of any situation other than your own? Do you know the person who you claim is non genuine? Why would anyone choose to be lazy? What benefits could be had from being lazy in this world of a 55 quid per week giro or forced to work for a supermarket for 79 quid per week?

Also why does depression equate to not working in your mind? I work. I worked through depression and my time off has been due to the physical aspects seeing a chiropractor. However they have been compassionate in the sense they have paid for counselling for me. Got that part?

Also how can someone excuse their behaviour as depression? It does change behaviours. Why do you think it is recognized as an illness? So you would be judge and jury on who was genuine and not and on what grounds? You are no expert so what grounds?

Bias? Hearsay? Cliquism? Idiocy? Which...because I see no sign of substance in your posts."

And what! we posted that we believe people use it as a excuse and they do like you,ve said yourself, so why the rant at us? when all we are stating people use it as a excuse to skive work and get benefits without having to look for work,

we dont need to wash our dirty washing in public by telling you facts is non of your or anyones else business is it, we was just stating something we know about, like said seen and heard it first hand and they are the people that need to get on with it, and people like you need to get of your high bloody horse. Like said Who are you to judge us like you say we judge others hyprocrite Yes you.

At least we speak our mind and dont hind behind anything, yeah there is a soft culture in our society but yeah there is genuine case for hardship and people needing help.

So to our post again We do believe some NOTE SOME people use depression as a excuse

and our thoughts are with the GENIUNE cases out there.

As if you like or not we dont care as you can only see what your saying from your eyes and are taking things a little to personal, so we,ll leave you to your life and not answer you again as im getting bored explaining a simple fact to a educated man that you are.

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By *i 1 Get 1 FreeCouple (MM)
over a year ago

birmingham


"who are these weird people who use posts like this to push their right wing govt inspired agendas ?"

It’s offensive to refer to people as “Weird” just because they hold a different opinion.

If you can’t respect other people have a different point of _iew, don’t contribute to the thread.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Think a some on this thread need to go visit a psyciatric ward, then i think they will change there mid. Depression comes out in different people in so many ways, i think you need your eyes opening to the word of depression and depression related illnesses

We have thanks but doesnt change our _iew that there is Genuine cases of depression then there is people using depression as a excuse to be lazy or excuse there behaviour,

Oh people make up all kind of shit to excuse their behaviour and that is pretty human. You think adults aren't aware of that? Is this your great revelation after all that you have stated? Wow.

The issue of GPs applying depression is a real one that others have raised in a serious adult manner. However again you seem to wish to take it to a place where you can judge and do so on the most simplistic - and I repeat - idiotic lines.

Who are you to know all the ins and outs of any situation other than your own? Do you know the person who you claim is non genuine? Why would anyone choose to be lazy? What benefits could be had from being lazy in this world of a 55 quid per week giro or forced to work for a supermarket for 79 quid per week?

Also why does depression equate to not working in your mind? I work. I worked through depression and my time off has been due to the physical aspects seeing a chiropractor. However they have been compassionate in the sense they have paid for counselling for me. Got that part?

Also how can someone excuse their behaviour as depression? It does change behaviours. Why do you think it is recognized as an illness? So you would be judge and jury on who was genuine and not and on what grounds? You are no expert so what grounds?

Bias? Hearsay? Cliquism? Idiocy? Which...because I see no sign of substance in your posts."

This

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By *ctavius StuntMan
over a year ago

london


"who are these weird people who use posts like this to push their right wing govt inspired agendas ?

It’s offensive to refer to people as “Weird” just because they hold a different opinion.

If you can’t respect other people have a different point of _iew, don’t contribute to the thread. "

err who gave you authority to tell me what to do ? I can tell what kind of person you are and i have no wish to engage in any sort of contact with you. So i think its best i block and ignore you.

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By *evilwolfCouple
over a year ago

Leicestershire


"who are these weird people?"

It's okay, I've had tea with Martians before

Wolf

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over a year ago


"who are these weird people?

It's okay, I've had tea with Martians before

Wolf

"

Did they have their probes?

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By *evilwolfCouple
over a year ago

Leicestershire


"who are these weird people?

It's okay, I've had tea with Martians before

Wolf

Did they have their probes?

"

No, but they did have Robbie

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By *yronMan
over a year ago

grangemouth


"who are these weird people?

It's okay, I've had tea with Martians before

Wolf

Did they have their probes?

"

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By *yronMan
over a year ago

grangemouth


"who are these weird people?

It's okay, I've had tea with Martians before

Wolf

Did they have their probes?

No, but they did have Robbie

"

Next time you see them, can you ask if they would give us Elvis back?

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By *evilwolfCouple
over a year ago

Leicestershire


"who are these weird people?

It's okay, I've had tea with Martians before

Wolf

Did they have their probes?

No, but they did have Robbie

Next time you see them, can you ask if they would give us Elvis back? "

bugger off! I'm not getting fingered by ET again

Wolf

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"who are these weird people?

It's okay, I've had tea with Martians before

Wolf

Did they have their probes?

No, but they did have Robbie

Next time you see them, can you ask if they would give us Elvis back?

bugger off! I'm not getting fingered by ET again

Wolf

"

Did they extract any information using their anal probes?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"i went to the doctors back in the summer and was shocked when she told me i was suffering from depression! i told her that i did not want to take drugs but was persuaded otherwise !

since then i have spoken with literally hundreds of people with 'depression!'

some in their early twenties !

i was not referred to a specialist so therefore took the word of a GP!

are doctors to quick to diagnose and prescribe anti- depression tablets?"

What I would be asking is why they think you are depressed, I was diagnosed with depression when I was 25, after having i had been told in a letter, I may never have kids, my sister in law at the time then fell pregnant, and as you can imagine everyone around me was wondering why I was not pregnant.... it sent me into a spiral of mixed emotions. I knew I was in a bad way, when the Dr simply asked me how I was doing and I just burst into to tears for no reason. They prescribed prozac.... which I did not take, and referred me to see a specialist. I came through it because I was determined that I needed to, I refused to take time off work as I knew it would make me worse.

Depression is a term used for many things, and I think a lot depends on the usual character of the person. I know I am slightly depressed at the moment, but that is because I have just had to attend my best friends funeral.... but I will work through it, because I know me and I know I am nowhere near as bad as I have been...

If you do not want to take the medication then that is up yourself, a GP cannot make you, if you think talking to someone would be more beneficial then tell your GP that... sometimes I admit, just talking to someone makes a world of difference, I am lucky to have some great friends in my life and I know they will be there if I need them, as I am for them....

xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I suffered from depression at 12yrs old, was on meds til 20 but felt they made me numb, was suppose to come off them slowly but wasn't warned about this and had just stopped which screwed me up a bit.

I tend not to say how i feel anymore, i never go the Drs about my depression as all they wanna do is give me meds.

I try so hard not to be depressed with having no close friends, being 31 still living at home, finally got a job after 3yrs being unemployed . I never once used my depression as a way not to work like a lot seem to. I live 2mins away from a bridge which is nicknamed suicide bridge as so many men have jumped. I hate how some people think if your depressed your a psycho, or those who have one day bad in their entire life, suddenly think they needs meds cuz they are unhappy for a few hrs.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I suffered from depression at 12yrs old, was on meds til 20 but felt they made me numb, was suppose to come off them slowly but wasn't warned about this and had just stopped which screwed me up a bit.

I tend not to say how i feel anymore, i never go the Drs about my depression as all they wanna do is give me meds.

I try so hard not to be depressed with having no close friends, being 31 still living at home, finally got a job after 3yrs being unemployed . I never once used my depression as a way not to work like a lot seem to. I live 2mins away from a bridge which is nicknamed suicide bridge as so many men have jumped. I hate how some people think if your depressed your a psycho, or those who have one day bad in their entire life, suddenly think they needs meds cuz they are unhappy for a few hrs."

The fact you can talk to us about it helps .

Try to get involved in voluntary groups ,get out and meet people , don't sit at home and mope .

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By *yronMan
over a year ago

grangemouth


"who are these weird people?

It's okay, I've had tea with Martians before

Wolf

Did they have their probes?

No, but they did have Robbie

Next time you see them, can you ask if they would give us Elvis back?

bugger off! I'm not getting fingered by ET again

Wolf

Did they extract any information using their anal probes?

"

If so, can I come?

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"who are these weird people who use posts like this to push their right wing govt inspired agendas ?"

They're the ones whose only joy in life is the mistaken belief that they're somehow 'better' than others.

It doesn't matter if the others are the poor, the sick, foreigners or (insert your favourite hate figure/s here).

Sad, sad people

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes but the fact i have zero confidence, zero friends, going out on my own is literally extremely hard for me.

People don't realize how they take something as simple as friendship, confidence for granted, it comes natural to almost everyone but there are some people like me who can't even go the local shop.

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By *allen MadonnaWoman
over a year ago

In my own little world

I've lived with depression for 20 odd years. Tried pills once, hated it, because that left me even more out of control of my brain than just dealing with the depression.

Been through lots of counselling, and even if I don't need a session, i still book myself in, unload issues, walk out and feel better, but i know that if I'm really struggling, then I can use my counselling quickly and positively.

i celebrate the depression now, and treat it in a positive way. I've learnt that most of the time it needs 'managing' and that occasionally I'll allow myself a duvet day, but only one day and then book up a treat for myself for the next day.

Sex is brilliant for depression. Changes the chemicals in the brain and can be the kick start you need to get you out of a slump.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've lived with depression for 20 odd years. Tried pills once, hated it, because that left me even more out of control of my brain than just dealing with the depression.

Been through lots of counselling, and even if I don't need a session, i still book myself in, unload issues, walk out and feel better, but i know that if I'm really struggling, then I can use my counselling quickly and positively.

i celebrate the depression now, and treat it in a positive way. I've learnt that most of the time it needs 'managing' and that occasionally I'll allow myself a duvet day, but only one day and then book up a treat for myself for the next day.

Sex is brilliant for depression. Changes the chemicals in the brain and can be the kick start you need to get you out of a slump. "

I found sex helps greatly too, even if its just having a cuddle but i struggle to meet new people and still never met anyone off here even if I try to be positive.

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


"I've lived with depression for 20 odd years. Tried pills once, hated it, because that left me even more out of control of my brain than just dealing with the depression.

Been through lots of counselling, and even if I don't need a session, i still book myself in, unload issues, walk out and feel better, but i know that if I'm really struggling, then I can use my counselling quickly and positively.

i celebrate the depression now, and treat it in a positive way. I've learnt that most of the time it needs 'managing' and that occasionally I'll allow myself a duvet day, but only one day and then book up a treat for myself for the next day.

Sex is brilliant for depression. Changes the chemicals in the brain and can be the kick start you need to get you out of a slump. "
I have met quite a few people with varying levels of depression in my life and this is a really positive, really good post! Talking about "it" even when you think you are not too bad! The other thing that helps many (not all) people is exercise.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes but the fact i have zero confidence, zero friends, going out on my own is literally extremely hard for me.

People don't realize how they take something as simple as friendship, confidence for granted, it comes natural to almost everyone but there are some people like me who can't even go the local shop."

Try setting yourself goals and tick them off as you reach them .

Start with the small ones like going down the shop, making eye contact with people and smiling and so on .

When sat at the bus stop or in a queue gather up the courage and say something even if it is a banal remark about the weather .

As you build up your list your courage will increase .

You could get a dog , people will often comment on your dogs breed etc and this will draw you into conversation.

You may meet rude people but learn to shrug them off , sticks and stones and all that , just be rude back .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i think depression is a hard thing for doctors to diagnose: some doctors will diagnose in a 10 minute appoinment and unfortunatly mis-diagnose. there r definatly people who will go to the doctor and exgarate their symptoms but of course there are people who truley are battling with depression or other mental health issues who are also mis-diagnosed and not offered the correct help and support. there are a lot of attention seekers out there that tske up valuable rescourses.

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over a year ago


"i think depression is a hard thing for doctors to diagnose: some doctors will diagnose in a 10 minute appoinment and unfortunatly mis-diagnose. there r definatly people who will go to the doctor and exgarate their symptoms but of course there are people who truley are battling with depression or other mental health issues who are also mis-diagnosed and not offered the correct help and support. there are a lot of attention seekers out there that tske up valuable rescourses. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mental health is very complexed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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Try setting yourself goals and tick them off as you reach them .

Start with the small ones like going down the shop, making eye contact with people and smiling and so on .

When sat at the bus stop or in a queue gather up the courage and say something even if it is a banal remark about the weather .

As you build up your list your courage will increase .

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I like this post

When I was at my worst I kept a pad and pen beside my bed and every evening before going to sleep, I would make a list of positives. No matter how small and seemingly insignificant, it went on the list - anything from, 'I washed 3 dishes today' to, 'I showered today'

Nothing negative was ever allowed on the list so when I went to sleep I was thinking only of the right stuff

I have friends whos GP's have dished out meds to for years and NEVER suggested any other help to get to the possible route of things. So yes, I believe sometimes they hand them out too easily and possibly to the detriment of their patients, other help should be offered at the same time.

I was very lucky, my doc did give me meds but also arranged specialist help, thanks to the three of them (meds, psychiatrist and CBT therapist) I'm happy to say, I'm still here I don't need the meds all the time now but keep a close watch on my state of mind and don't hesitate to take them when I know I have to.

I'm NOT weak and I'm NOT lazy... if I was weak I quite simply wouldn't be here today

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Mental health is very complexed

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And very difficult to diagnose even for experts, let alone lay people.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire


"Mental health is very complexed

And very difficult to diagnose even for experts, let alone lay people.

When i was diagnosed i was 15 and in those days it was called manic depression. Nobody really knew what to do with me standard gps werent taught about it at med school, ended up seeing my firs psyciatristwhen i was 18, it graduall got worse and worse and when i was in my mid 2- 30s it was very hard to function with all the stuff they put in me Nowadays medication is lot better i have a wonderful doctor cpn, ctbt speciaaist and pscicatrict. Could ask for anything better, Ive been in hospital 9 times with it but none in the last 6years

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes but the fact i have zero confidence, zero friends, going out on my own is literally extremely hard for me.

People don't realize how they take something as simple as friendship, confidence for granted, it comes natural to almost everyone but there are some people like me who can't even go the local shop.

Try setting yourself goals and tick them off as you reach them .

Start with the small ones like going down the shop, making eye contact with people and smiling and so on .

When sat at the bus stop or in a queue gather up the courage and say something even if it is a banal remark about the weather .

As you build up your list your courage will increase .

You could get a dog , people will often comment on your dogs breed etc and this will draw you into conversation.

You may meet rude people but learn to shrug them off , sticks and stones and all that , just be rude back ."

My bestfriends the last 25yrs were Polly and Molly the bloodhounds, best dogs ever. Polly died when i was 19 and Molly was put down in November. Not allowed another dog til i move out and get my own, which i wont be able to afford in this lifetime thanks to our lovely government.

I tried the whole trying to talk to people, it actually led me to have my jaw broke.

I am saving to go travelling with someone im speaking with on a travel website, i think it would do me good to get away for a while.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Blimey , why did you get your jaw broken ?, wasn't the type of interaction I envisaged .

As for the travelling , go for it .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Did your GP give you the questionnaire? Some GPs probably do prescribe too easily. Good ones don't. Did you take the prescription, get it filled and take the anti-depressants? If so, have they helped?

yes i did the questionnaire and it showed as a little depression but higher anxiety ! am still popping the tablets and don't feel any different to what i did before !"

Assuming that you are actually a fireman, have you spoken to anyone at work? Surely there are support systems in place? And the nature of your job is possibly linked to the anxiety?

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By *he_original_poloWoman
over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester


"Huge difference between depression and the feel sorry for themselves brigade, think that is the point they are trying to make and I agree.

Social networking sites have added to it... they can get as much attention as they seek and be better in hours.

The people with depression will attend the appointments, the sessions, the therapies, take the medication and do everything they can to live with it."

Yes there are those who live with depression and those who just have depressing lives... and seem to expect others to sort it out for them.

Sadly the latter do very little to help the cause of those doing serious work to raise awareness of mental health issues.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

An interesting turn of events on this thread today.

There was a thread at the beginning of the year about a good things jar. I have been using this and it's been a positive addition to my routine.

Yesterday was a really good day. My little experiences went on a slip of paper and into the jar. A glance at the jar reminds me that good things happen even when I am in my darkest pit.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Huge difference between depression and the feel sorry for themselves brigade, think that is the point they are trying to make and I agree.

Social networking sites have added to it... they can get as much attention as they seek and be better in hours.

The people with depression will attend the appointments, the sessions, the therapies, take the medication and do everything they can to live with it.

Yes there are those who live with depression and those who just have depressing lives... and seem to expect others to sort it out for them.

Sadly the latter do very little to help the cause of those doing serious work to raise awareness of mental health issues."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I got depressed due to a noisy anti social neighbour. The first time I went to doc she said better to act to change. I did.

However, I had to go back as nothing was moving and it was affecting my work. She advised it was probs mainly lack of good sleep and prescribed some sleeping pills.

The situation was resolved about 3 months on and I only used the pills when I really needed them.

We all get depressed about different stuff and have different tolerances to problems. Medication is not necessarily the answer.

However, there are, I believe, depressive illnesses which are quite different and may need to be treated.

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