FabSwingers.com forum: No Police at Irish Gay Pride

By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

The Chief of Police in Northern Ireland has banned his men from attending the Gay Pride event in Uniform citing reasons of neutrality. Last year in some cities the police were not welcome. What is going on here guys. It's all over the news

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By *apnDomMan
over a year ago

London | Belfast

What? That is so wrong. Gay rights all the way, but now the police doesn't even go to the parades any more? They used to be near any and all parades. Why are the gay parades so special???

It's getting really ridiculous. 30 years ago people would have thought that this is an anti-gay statement, to not protect them. These days it's the total opposite and it feels like they get extra rights for no reason.

At least in my mind. Dunno.

In my opinion just treat it like any other parade. Couple uniforms on the side, and good is.

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By *TG3Man
over a year ago

Dorchester

"The Chief of Police in Northern Ireland has banned his men from attending the Gay Pride event in Uniform citing reasons of neutrality. Last year in some cities the police were not welcome. What is going on here guys. It's all over the news"
Theirs enough trouble without the police

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By *immyinreadingMan
over a year ago

henley on thames

"What? That is so wrong. Gay rights all the way, but now the police doesn't even go to the parades any more? They used to be near any and all parades. Why are the gay parades so special???

At least in my mind. Dunno.

In my opinion just treat it like any other parade. Couple uniforms on the side, and good is."

This isn’t about policing of the parade. It’s about officers marching IN the parade, in uniform. It’s something they have done previously and PSNI are now saying not to do it any more.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If other uniformed professionals are marching in uniform then the police should be able to as well.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There's no need to feel down.

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By *tooveMan
over a year ago

belfast

Not really safe at the minute. Threat from republican dinosaurs. They already murdered a gay cop who was set up by someone (barman allegedly) in a gay bar.

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By *tooveMan
over a year ago

belfast

"If other uniformed professionals are marching in uniform then the police should be able to as well.

Other uniformed professionals, apart from soldiers, aren't being targeted by republican terrorists.

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By *apnDomMan
over a year ago

London | Belfast

"What? That is so wrong. Gay rights all the way, but now the police doesn't even go to the parades any more? They used to be near any and all parades. Why are the gay parades so special???

At least in my mind. Dunno.

In my opinion just treat it like any other parade. Couple uniforms on the side, and good is.

This isn’t about policing of the parade. It’s about officers marching IN the parade, in uniform. It’s something they have done previously and PSNI are now saying not to do it any more. "

Ohhh. Wait, I got that wrong then. Was not reading it properly.

That is fucked up. Why not? If you're off duty, you can do whatever you want with your life, as long as it's legal.

If you're a gay police officer, then why not attend a gay parade? Don't get this

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By *astandFeistyCouple
over a year ago

Bournemouth

"What? That is so wrong. Gay rights all the way, but now the police doesn't even go to the parades any more? They used to be near any and all parades. Why are the gay parades so special???

At least in my mind. Dunno.

In my opinion just treat it like any other parade. Couple uniforms on the side, and good is.

This isn’t about policing of the parade. It’s about officers marching IN the parade, in uniform. It’s something they have done previously and PSNI are now saying not to do it any more.

Ohhh. Wait, I got that wrong then. Was not reading it properly.

That is fucked up. Why not? If you're off duty, you can do whatever you want with your life, as long as it's legal.

If you're a gay police officer, then why not attend a gay parade? Don't get this"

I think you read it wrong again. Someone said they can't parade in uniform.

They shouldn't be in uniform if they're not on duty anyway.

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By *tooveMan
over a year ago

belfast

"What? That is so wrong. Gay rights all the way, but now the police doesn't even go to the parades any more? They used to be near any and all parades. Why are the gay parades so special???

At least in my mind. Dunno.

In my opinion just treat it like any other parade. Couple uniforms on the side, and good is.

This isn’t about policing of the parade. It’s about officers marching IN the parade, in uniform. It’s something they have done previously and PSNI are now saying not to do it any more.

Ohhh. Wait, I got that wrong then. Was not reading it properly.

That is fucked up. Why not? If you're off duty, you can do whatever you want with your life, as long as it's legal.

If you're a gay police officer, then why not attend a gay parade? Don't get this"

They can attend. They can't wear uniform though.

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By *elvet RopeMan
over a year ago

by the big field

From my limited knowledge of once seeing a George Michael video- there will be at least one cop in uniform there, possibly holding a large truncheon

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They’re trying to show Neutrality about what? I don’t get it

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By *tooveMan
over a year ago

belfast

"They’re trying to show Neutrality about what? I don’t get it "

Politically. Some see pride as a political thing.

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By *immyinreadingMan
over a year ago

henley on thames

"If other uniformed professionals are marching in uniform then the police should be able to as well.

Are other services marching in uniform?

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By *immyinreadingMan
over a year ago

henley on thames

"What? That is so wrong. Gay rights all the way, but now the police doesn't even go to the parades any more? They used to be near any and all parades. Why are the gay parades so special???

At least in my mind. Dunno.

In my opinion just treat it like any other parade. Couple uniforms on the side, and good is.

This isn’t about policing of the parade. It’s about officers marching IN the parade, in uniform. It’s something they have done previously and PSNI are now saying not to do it any more.

Ohhh. Wait, I got that wrong then. Was not reading it properly.

That is fucked up. Why not? If you're off duty, you can do whatever you want with your life, as long as it's legal.

If you're a gay police officer, then why not attend a gay parade? Don't get this"

I don’t know. But they are not being stopped from marching, just being stopped from marching in uniform.

But sure why it was ok last year but not this year.

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By *tooveMan
over a year ago

belfast

"What? That is so wrong. Gay rights all the way, but now the police doesn't even go to the parades any more? They used to be near any and all parades. Why are the gay parades so special???

At least in my mind. Dunno.

In my opinion just treat it like any other parade. Couple uniforms on the side, and good is.

This isn’t about policing of the parade. It’s about officers marching IN the parade, in uniform. It’s something they have done previously and PSNI are now saying not to do it any more.

Ohhh. Wait, I got that wrong then. Was not reading it properly.

That is fucked up. Why not? If you're off duty, you can do whatever you want with your life, as long as it's legal.

If you're a gay police officer, then why not attend a gay parade? Don't get this

I don’t know. But they are not being stopped from marching, just being stopped from marching in uniform.

But sure why it was ok last year but not this year. "

Terror threat up.

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By *immyinreadingMan
over a year ago

henley on thames

"What? That is so wrong. Gay rights all the way, but now the police doesn't even go to the parades any more? They used to be near any and all parades. Why are the gay parades so special???

At least in my mind. Dunno.

In my opinion just treat it like any other parade. Couple uniforms on the side, and good is.

This isn’t about policing of the parade. It’s about officers marching IN the parade, in uniform. It’s something they have done previously and PSNI are now saying not to do it any more.

Ohhh. Wait, I got that wrong then. Was not reading it properly.

That is fucked up. Why not? If you're off duty, you can do whatever you want with your life, as long as it's legal.

If you're a gay police officer, then why not attend a gay parade? Don't get this

I don’t know. But they are not being stopped from marching, just being stopped from marching in uniform.

But sure why it was ok last year but not this year.

Terror threat up. "

Not what I heard. More to do with the more conservative elements of NI hierarchies flexing their muscle . Back to the 19th century …

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By *ealitybitesMan
over a year ago

Belfast

"Not really safe at the minute. Threat from republican dinosaurs. They already murdered a gay cop who was set up by someone (barman allegedly) in a gay bar. "

That was in 1997

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By *immyinreadingMan
over a year ago

henley on thames

"Not really safe at the minute. Threat from republican dinosaurs. They already murdered a gay cop who was set up by someone (barman allegedly) in a gay bar.

That was in 1997"

That case? Ah wow! Awful case, but hardly a valid example of recent increase in terrorist threat … 26 years ago!!!

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By *immyinreadingMan
over a year ago

henley on thames

"If other uniformed professionals are marching in uniform then the police should be able to as well.

Other uniformed professionals, apart from soldiers, aren't being targeted by republican terrorists. "

What century are you living in? You seem to be referring to events over a quarter of a century ago

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By *tooveMan
over a year ago

belfast

"Not really safe at the minute. Threat from republican dinosaurs. They already murdered a gay cop who was set up by someone (barman allegedly) in a gay bar.

That was in 1997"

Yeah it was. Republicans tried to murder a cop earlier this year. Those dinosaurs are intent on murder. Cops walking in uniform at pride, and going out after,would be easy targets.

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By *immyinreadingMan
over a year ago

henley on thames

"Not really safe at the minute. Threat from republican dinosaurs. They already murdered a gay cop who was set up by someone (barman allegedly) in a gay bar.

That was in 1997

Yeah it was. Republicans tried to murder a cop earlier this year. Those dinosaurs are intent on murder. Cops walking in uniform at pride, and going out after,would be easy targets. "

I’m confused.

You stated that a cop was murdered, which seems to refer to the 1997 case.

Now you seem to be referring to a different case.

And you accuse me of not knowing what I’m on about?

Calm down, stop being so aggressive.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If other uniformed professionals are marching in uniform then the police should be able to as well.

Other uniformed professionals, apart from soldiers, aren't being targeted by republican terrorists.

What century are you living in? You seem to be referring to events over a quarter of a century ago "

In 2023 MI5 have raised the present day threat in NI to “severe”, due to increased IRA activity and intelligence of attacks being planned. The danger is still very much there

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By *immyinreadingMan
over a year ago

henley on thames

"If other uniformed professionals are marching in uniform then the police should be able to as well.

Other uniformed professionals, apart from soldiers, aren't being targeted by republican terrorists.

What century are you living in? You seem to be referring to events over a quarter of a century ago

In 2023 MI5 have raised the present day threat in NI to “severe”, due to increased IRA activity and intelligence of attacks being planned. The danger is still very much there "

Yes, threat levels have increased, but it is in nobody’s best interests to lie or exaggerate, as the earlier poster did.

As for your reference to the “ira”, you are probably referring to one of the splinter groups rather than PIRA.

Getting back on topic, it’s pretty sad to see a backwards step like this from PSNI.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If other uniformed professionals are marching in uniform then the police should be able to as well.

Other uniformed professionals, apart from soldiers, aren't being targeted by republican terrorists.

What century are you living in? You seem to be referring to events over a quarter of a century ago

In 2023 MI5 have raised the present day threat in NI to “severe”, due to increased IRA activity and intelligence of attacks being planned. The danger is still very much there

Yes, threat levels have increased, but it is in nobody’s best interests to lie or exaggerate, as the earlier poster did.

As for your reference to the “ira”, you are probably referring to one of the splinter groups rather than PIRA.

Getting back on topic, it’s pretty sad to see a backwards step like this from PSNI.

Do you intentionally try and sound condescending?

No I mean the “New IRA”

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By *immyinreadingMan
over a year ago

henley on thames

"If other uniformed professionals are marching in uniform then the police should be able to as well.

Other uniformed professionals, apart from soldiers, aren't being targeted by republican terrorists.

What century are you living in? You seem to be referring to events over a quarter of a century ago

In 2023 MI5 have raised the present day threat in NI to “severe”, due to increased IRA activity and intelligence of attacks being planned. The danger is still very much there

Yes, threat levels have increased, but it is in nobody’s best interests to lie or exaggerate, as the earlier poster did.

As for your reference to the “ira”, you are probably referring to one of the splinter groups rather than PIRA.

Getting back on topic, it’s pretty sad to see a backwards step like this from PSNI.

Do you intentionally try and sound condescending?

No I mean the “New IRA”"

No intention to sound condescending.

Thanks for clarifying that you meant the “new ira”. There are other splinter groups such as Continuity IRA, and when people simply refer to the IRA that typically refers to PIRA.

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By *ealitybitesMan
over a year ago

Belfast

Uniformed soldiers haven't been on NI streets since 2007.

The gay RUC murder was in the Parliament bar in 1997 which no longer exists.

Reading between the lines this decision is as much about the cost of policing events as anything else.

Off duty members of the PSNI are free to partake while budget cuts mean those who are on duty are expected to police the parade rather than be paid to take part in it.

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By *immyinreadingMan
over a year ago

henley on thames

"Uniformed soldiers haven't been on NI streets since 2007.

The gay RUC murder was in the Parliament bar in 1997 which no longer exists.

Reading between the lines this decision is as much about the cost of policing events as anything else.

Off duty members of the PSNI are free to partake while budget cuts mean those who are on duty are expected to police the parade rather than be paid to take part in it. "

That’s a fair guess re reason for the change of heart.

There is also a strong element of the Establishment who don’t like seeing their police officers in uniform, openly supporting the Pride events.

Dinosaurs.

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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Should they send in the army

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By *elvet RopeMan
over a year ago

by the big field

"Should they send in the army "

Only if they don't wear uniforms Tom

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By *ustus555Couple
over a year ago

An not carrying anything with a 7.65 caliber.

Just saying for a mate.

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By *reative-mindMan
over a year ago

Exeter

Controversy is never far away when it comes to Northern Ireland.

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By *lansmanMan
over a year ago

Sheffield

"They’re trying to show Neutrality about what? I don’t get it

Politically. Some see pride as a political thing. "

Because it most certainly is . I agree with Douglas Murray on this subject.

Get up speed with the mermaid court case. It's quite mind boggling.

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By *ichaelsmyMan
over a year ago

douglas

the police when enforcing the laws as they were are seen as the bad guys. especially in northern ireland after the troubles

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