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By *exySwing3rs OP Couple
over a year ago

In Your Hearts

Still can't forget the images of the ruthless murder of a family of 12 elephants in Kenya for their ivory.

What sentence would you pass on the monsters who did this?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Although its heart breaking some of the poverty in Africa is too. If you were left with the choice of slaughtering animals to feed your family would you hesitate? It's illegal of course and should therefore get a punishment as a deterrent. So some jail time?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is it down to poverty or is it greed?

Sadly a lot of people will pay a lot of money for ivory and the "traditional Chinese medicine" trade loves to grind up bits of endangered animals to make their useless potions.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

Cab they not use the meat to feed people?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Cab they not use the meat to feed people? "

...i'm not quite sure that's the point.

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By *ady4ladyWoman
over a year ago

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I would be looking to punish those who buy the ivory. If there is no market for it then the elephents will be left in peace.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"Cab they not use the meat to feed people?

...i'm not quite sure that's the point.

Why not. Famine in the country, elephants have been killed, use the meat from the elephants to feed some of the population.

If they can use the meat they could farm the elephants like we farm cows, then to subsidise the farming by selling legal, trackable ivory.

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By *exySwing3rs OP Couple
over a year ago

In Your Hearts

Surely this is not down to poverty. To carry out such monstrosities one would need vast resources & planning which mean they already have finances in place.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Cab they not use the meat to feed people? "

Have you ever tried frying an elephant drumsticks?

Seriously though, I find things like this abhorrent. did you see the thing about sharks fins the other week? Google shark finished roof Singapore... horrible.

But then hypocrisy kicks in as I am a big meat eater

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"Surely this is not down to poverty. To carry out such monstrosities one would need vast resources & planning which mean they already have finances in place."

It means the gangs that control the slums have money, dish out the guns to those who are in debt to them and tell them to put their lives on the line or them and their family will suffer.

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By *els_BellsWoman
over a year ago

with the moon n stars somewhere in gtr manc

"Cab they not use the meat to feed people?

Have you ever tried frying an elephant drumsticks?

Seriously though, I find things like this abhorrent. did you see the thing about sharks fins the other week? Google shark finished roof Singapore... horrible.

But then hypocrisy kicks in as I am a big meat eater "

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The whole hunting/poaching is disgusting, thankfully it has dropped slightly as to what it was.

In some nature reserves in Africa, eg. the Massai Mara (spelling way off probably, sorry) employed some ex poachers and men from villages to protect animals so helped with poverty and hunting. Its a frightening trade and in some cases an everyday way to get money

Did anyone see about the whale vomit found on a beach up here the other day? It could fetch thousands of pounds if its real as its used in perfume.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"Cab they not use the meat to feed people?

Have you ever tried frying an elephant drumsticks?

Seriously though, I find things like this abhorrent. did you see the thing about sharks fins the other week? Google shark finished roof Singapore... horrible.

But then hypocrisy kicks in as I am a big meat eater

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The whole hunting/poaching is disgusting, thankfully it has dropped slightly as to what it was.

Did anyone see about the whale vomit found on a beach up here the other day? It could fetch thousands of pounds if its real as its used in perfume.

Ambergris. Yes, very valuable.

The only way to end this sort of poaching is to change the market. You can't "farm" elephants in the same way we do cows, if it were possible it would have been done. Such beautiful creatures.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

just another example of the stupidity of some within the human race..

think the only safe place for some of the endangered species is in reserves where they may be protected..

sad if thats what has to happen but necessary..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's heartbreaking, yes, but I personally don't feel the need to get the pitchforks out and start branding people 'monsters'. Revenge is pathetic and silly and doesn't get an individual or a society anywhere.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Don't panic people. The waste of the elephants once they're tusks are poached will not go to waste. They will be appearing at a tesco's near you

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By *i 1 Get 1 FreeCouple (MM)
over a year ago

birmingham

"Revenge is pathetic and silly and doesn't get an individual or a society anywhere."

Depends on who the revenge is aimed at

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Being a vegetarian I feel there is no hypocrisy when I say - the slaughter of any animal for our gain is abhorrent - yet do many folk get in a state over elephants , badgers , whales etc ....

What's the difference ?

Just my opinion

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By *i 1 Get 1 FreeCouple (MM)
over a year ago

birmingham

"Is it down to poverty or is it greed?"

½ the world suffering with obesity problems, ½ the world suffering with starvation, the issue I have with Africa is they never seem short of weapons when fighting tribal / religious issues

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By *yronMan
over a year ago

grangemouth

"Cab they not use the meat to feed people?

Have you ever tried frying an elephant drumsticks?

Seriously though, I find things like this abhorrent. did you see the thing about sharks fins the other week? Google shark finished roof Singapore... horrible.

But then hypocrisy kicks in as I am a big meat eater

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The whole hunting/poaching is disgusting, thankfully it has dropped slightly as to what it was.

Did anyone see about the whale vomit found on a beach up here the other day? It could fetch thousands of pounds if its real as its used in perfume.

Ambergris. Yes, very valuable.

The only way to end this sort of poaching is to change the market. You can't "farm" elephants in the same way we do cows, if it were possible it would have been done. Such beautiful creatures."

Problem is that the use of ivory in traditional Chinese medecine is deeply ingrained. If China is signed up to any kind of international anti-poaching treaties, they could be made to comply through the UN.

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By *yronMan
over a year ago

grangemouth

"Is it down to poverty or is it greed?

½ the world suffering with obesity problems, ½ the world suffering with starvation, the issue I have with Africa is they never seem short of weapons when fighting tribal / religious issues "

Far too many people have made money out of the misery of others in Africa for far too long and sadly, it doesn't look like stopping any time soon.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Still can't forget the images of the ruthless murder of a family of 12 elephants in Kenya for their ivory.

What sentence would you pass on the monsters who did this?"

Not quite convinced this is the appropriate site for this. But I aqm rewady to be corrected, as am sure I will be by the 'mother hens'.

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By *b430Man
over a year ago

Tayside

"Still can't forget the images of the ruthless murder of a family of 12 elephants in Kenya for their ivory.

What sentence would you pass on the monsters who did this?

Not quite convinced this is the appropriate site for this. But I aqm rewady to be corrected, as am sure I will be by the 'mother hens'."

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By *i 1 Get 1 FreeCouple (MM)
over a year ago

birmingham

"Not quite convinced this is the appropriate site for this. But I aqm rewady to be corrected, as am sure I will be by the 'mother hens'."

Providing a topic remains within the site rules, why can't a subject be discussed?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I would be looking to punish those who buy the ivory. If there is no market for it then the elephents will be left in peace.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Not quite convinced this is the appropriate site for this. But I aqm rewady to be corrected, as am sure I will be by the 'mother hens'."

Why not?

many subjects are discussed in the lounge..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Still can't forget the images of the ruthless murder of a family of 12 elephants in Kenya for their ivory.

What sentence would you pass on the monsters who did this?

Not quite convinced this is the appropriate site for this. But I aqm rewady to be corrected, as am sure I will be by the 'mother hens'."

Why not?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Revenge is pathetic and silly and doesn't get an individual or a society anywhere.

Depends on who the revenge is aimed at

No it doesn't.

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By *i 1 Get 1 FreeCouple (MM)
over a year ago

birmingham

"Revenge is pathetic and silly and doesn't get an individual or a society anywhere.

Depends on who the revenge is aimed at

No it doesn't."

How do you know, have we met?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Revenge is pathetic and silly and doesn't get an individual or a society anywhere.

Depends on who the revenge is aimed at

No it doesn't.

How do you know, have we met?

No, what does meeting have to do with it?

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By *i 1 Get 1 FreeCouple (MM)
over a year ago

birmingham

"what does meeting have to do with it?"

Can't be bothered

Revenge was sweet, we'll agree to disagree

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Was staying in a village in Namibia once when a herd came through and ravaged the homes, crops and trees of a small group of villagers, destroying everything in some cases, homes, food, and so on.

Not to mention scaring the life out of everyone. It wasnt an isolated thing either. Lots of villagers arent so fond of them for this reason.

Just sayin'.

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By *xpresMan
over a year ago

Elland

How can the killing of an animal be murder?? Ok its wrong to kill an elephant in africa but the people are not doing it out of spite but they are hungry n are offered good money for ivory that will feed clothe n shelter the guys family... bit of a no brainer realy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Humans are just arrogant

We think we have the rights to do what we like to other life

We have wiped out hundreds of species and many many more are now on the brink of extinction

Animals killed for fun, for profit, their homes being chopped down and built upto as we move into their home lands

We kill them for food, for clothes for pleasure and to experient on them

I sometimes feel ashamed to be the 'intelligent species' but we will never change till we have wiped out everything, including our own kind

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

a family 12 elephants? thats horrible

hope they didnt suffer poor things

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

what they should do is tranquilize the elephants and cut off their tusks, poches only kill them for the ivory without tusks they are worthless

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its a complex problem and animal welfare folks sit on one side of it and conservationists on the other.

Poachers aren't supposed to illegally go off outside what the governments set as culling figures to conserve environments but they do, cos the local people often hate the damn animals who are wrecking their crops and homes anyway.

You cant put a fence up to keep thirty tank sized animals out of your garden, your home, the field you've been tending for months.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *leasureDomeMan
over a year ago

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"Humans are just arrogant

We think we have the rights to do what we like to other life

We have wiped out hundreds of species and many many more are now on the brink of extinction

Animals killed for fun, for profit, their homes being chopped down and built upto as we move into their home lands

We kill them for food, for clothes for pleasure and to experient on them

I sometimes feel ashamed to be the 'intelligent species' but we will never change till we have wiped out everything, including our own kind "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Cab they not use the meat to feed people?

Have you ever tried frying an elephant drumsticks?

Seriously though, I find things like this abhorrent. did you see the thing about sharks fins the other week? Google shark finished roof Singapore... horrible.

But then hypocrisy kicks in as I am a big meat eater "

I couldn't find on google about the sharks and typed what u said

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

sad yes, but think more should be done in our country against human killing ie gun knife crime,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bush meat was used to feed troops in Zimbabwe .... And it is edible meat.

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