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"If anyone spent more than £20 on jewelry for me I think I'd slap them. " Get a lot of Haribo rings for £20 | |||
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"I don’t see an issue with buying lab grown. It’s cheaper and better clarity. No one is going to look at your jewellery and be able to tell so it’s really down to personal preference. My sister got a larger lab-grown diamond for her money and was really happy with it. I don’t think it matters what you pick as long as you like it ![]() Makes more sense as for clarity and size but I no it going to bug me not being the real thing | |||
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"How will she react to lab-grown diamonds is the question I'd be asking. " she would be over the moon with it more so than me lol and she is worth a real one sometimes lol | |||
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"How will she react to lab-grown diamonds is the question I'd be asking. Clearly an unpopular opinion, but I wouldn't be happy if Tom had got me a lab grown diamond. I guess it's perception, but I wanted the real thing. x Jess" I don't know how I'd feel about it. Maybe it would depend on our finances. I wouldn't want money wasted on a ring, unless it was an investment, and that would depend on the diamond itself. If I want something pretty on my finger I'd prefer an opal ring I think. | |||
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"How will she react to lab-grown diamonds is the question I'd be asking. she would be over the moon with it more so than me lol and she is worth a real one sometimes lol" Then go for the sensible option ![]() | |||
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"Grown Diamonds are real. They are even fully organic and grown from sustainable and environmentally friendly sources. Mined Diamonds are questionably sourced, mining destroys the environment permanently, massively wasteful when cut, and hugely inflated values at retail when the raw form miners got paid almost nothing." Grown Diamonds are not real,no more than grown Rubies and Sapphires.Diamond mining has gone through a complete revolution in recent years("blood Diamonds" etc),now every stone has to be fully traceable back to source.Once a stone is cut you pay for what is left,not the wastage.That is why there is always a conflict between owner and cutter,the owner wants the biggest stone possible,the cutter wants a cut to show the quality of the stone (clarity,colour) which quite often removes a lot of stone.Grown Diamonds are sold at hugely inflated prices,they are worthless after first sale whereas a real Diamond has a secondary value.If cost is a consideration look at pre owned rings,they are instantly cheaper because there is no VAT,pre owned is eci friendly because it's re cycling.You could have a stone removed and set into a new "shank"(ring) of your choice of style or just to have a brand new feel. | |||
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"Real Diamonds every time.Lab grown are worthless on the secondary market,in other words once you have bought the ring it is worthless.The only value is the gold in the shank." exactly this but lab grown are far more affordable to lose | |||
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"Grown Diamonds are real. They are even fully organic and grown from sustainable and environmentally friendly sources. Mined Diamonds are questionably sourced, mining destroys the environment permanently, massively wasteful when cut, and hugely inflated values at retail when the raw form miners got paid almost nothing. Grown Diamonds are not real,no more than grown Rubies and Sapphires.Diamond mining has gone through a complete revolution in recent years("blood Diamonds" etc),now every stone has to be fully traceable back to source.Once a stone is cut you pay for what is left,not the wastage.That is why there is always a conflict between owner and cutter,the owner wants the biggest stone possible,the cutter wants a cut to show the quality of the stone (clarity,colour) which quite often removes a lot of stone.Grown Diamonds are sold at hugely inflated prices,they are worthless after first sale whereas a real Diamond has a secondary value.If cost is a consideration look at pre owned rings,they are instantly cheaper because there is no VAT,pre owned is eci friendly because it's re cycling.You could have a stone removed and set into a new "shank"(ring) of your choice of style or just to have a brand new feel." my mate at work used to be a jeweller and has said this | |||
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"Grown Diamonds are real. They are even fully organic and grown from sustainable and environmentally friendly sources. Mined Diamonds are questionably sourced, mining destroys the environment permanently, massively wasteful when cut, and hugely inflated values at retail when the raw form miners got paid almost nothing. Grown Diamonds are not real,no more than grown Rubies and Sapphires.Diamond mining has gone through a complete revolution in recent years("blood Diamonds" etc),now every stone has to be fully traceable back to source.Once a stone is cut you pay for what is left,not the wastage.That is why there is always a conflict between owner and cutter,the owner wants the biggest stone possible,the cutter wants a cut to show the quality of the stone (clarity,colour) which quite often removes a lot of stone.Grown Diamonds are sold at hugely inflated prices,they are worthless after first sale whereas a real Diamond has a secondary value.If cost is a consideration look at pre owned rings,they are instantly cheaper because there is no VAT,pre owned is eci friendly because it's re cycling.You could have a stone removed and set into a new "shank"(ring) of your choice of style or just to have a brand new feel. my mate at work used to be a jeweller and has said this " You're mate is correct.I am a jewellery dealer.Take a look at Victorian/Edwardian rings or anything pre world war two,they tend to be the old cut type,the shank is very very often 18 carat with a platinum mount for the stone.Very good value. | |||
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"I don't think I could risk it for synthetic diamonds just yet. We don't know what the long term consequences are for lab grown gems, what issues will manifest themselves later on in life, any mutations or degradation at the atomic level...I shudder to think Besides I don't have it in my heart to stop visiting Mappin & Webb, Chopard and Tiffany etc." Mappin & Webb ![]() | |||
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"I don't think I could risk it for synthetic diamonds just yet. We don't know what the long term consequences are for lab grown gems, what issues will manifest themselves later on in life, any mutations or degradation at the atomic level...I shudder to think. Besides I don't have it in my heart to stop visiting Mappin & Webb, Chopard and Tiffany etc." Yes you shouldn't trust these scientists. My mate who studies things on youtube says that artificial diamonds are made of the same stuff as graphene, and we all know how ultra toxic that is. Like a wedding ring made out of nanotubes? Its got to be some form of 5G body control thing. | |||
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"I don't think I could risk it for synthetic diamonds just yet. We don't know what the long term consequences are for lab grown gems, what issues will manifest themselves later on in life, any mutations or degradation at the atomic level...I shudder to think. Besides I don't have it in my heart to stop visiting Mappin & Webb, Chopard and Tiffany etc. · Yes you shouldn't trust these scientists. My mate who studies things on youtube says that artificial diamonds are made of the same stuff as graphene, and we all know how ultra toxic that is. Like a wedding ring made out of nanotubes? Its got to be some form of 5G body control thing." • Your friend should do a talk at the next symposium for the Gemological Institute of America. | |||
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"I don't think I could risk it for synthetic diamonds just yet. We don't know what the long term consequences are for lab grown gems, what issues will manifest themselves later on in life, any mutations or degradation at the atomic level...I shudder to think. Besides I don't have it in my heart to stop visiting Mappin & Webb, Chopard and Tiffany etc. · Yes you shouldn't trust these scientists. My mate who studies things on youtube says that artificial diamonds are made of the same stuff as graphene, and we all know how ultra toxic that is. Like a wedding ring made out of nanotubes? Its got to be some form of 5G body control thing. • Your friend should do a talk at the next symposium for the Gemological Institute of America." Be careful. They might be in the pay of big precious metal | |||
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"Take a look at Cooksongold.com.You can buy a loose 4mm Diamond for between around £250 and &400 dependant on clarity etc.Yoy can also buy a new shank without stone at a fraction over scrap value.Take the stone and shank to a working jeweller to be set.£400 stone,shank & setting no more than £550" That's actually really interesting. ![]() | |||
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"I don't think I could risk it for synthetic diamonds just yet. We don't know what the long term consequences are for lab grown gems, what issues will manifest themselves later on in life, any mutations or degradation at the atomic level...I shudder to think. Besides I don't have it in my heart to stop visiting Mappin & Webb, Chopard and Tiffany etc. · Yes you shouldn't trust these scientists. My mate who studies things on youtube says that artificial diamonds are made of the same stuff as graphene, and we all know how ultra toxic that is. Like a wedding ring made out of nanotubes? Its got to be some form of 5G body control thing. • Your friend should do a talk at the next symposium for the Gemological Institute of America. Be careful. They might be in the pay of big precious metal" • On our next date I'm treating you to some ice cold brew at De Beers. ![]() | |||
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"Not really swing related but I’ve been looking at Diamond rings lately as I’m gonna ask my other half soon I want the real one but labs are clearer and a hell of a lot cheaper lol what’s everyone’s thoughts? " If they are the type to demand an expensive ring, dump them. There's more to life than trying to please that type of person! | |||
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"A few years ago I was in Antwerp which has a huge diamond centre, a few roads of diamond dealers. It worked the same there. You brought the stone, and then the setting after. It kept the price down plus you could find a diamond that suited your budget " You can 3D print settings literally for the cost of gold , in Birmingham , with tax or here without tax. Simply watch the price daily and send your CAD image when the price is low. You can get a CAD image done on sites like fiverr dot com for …… a fiver ![]() | |||
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"Not really swing related but I’ve been looking at Diamond rings lately as I’m gonna ask my other half soon I want the real one but labs are clearer and a hell of a lot cheaper lol what’s everyone’s thoughts? " I dont think it matters as long as your partner likes it. Whats her thoughts on diamonds? I remeber getting a diamond ring for an engagement long time ago now and I was scared to wear it half the time. I ended up getting a similar style moissanite one and wore that mostly. | |||
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"Does anyone know about buying from auctions?" You need to look at how they are advertising it. Are they calling it a diamond or a clear stone. A gold band or yellow metal. If you buy something and get it checked after and it’s not what they said it was you can get your money back. That said reputable auction houses will check everything out prior but still worth independently getting it verified after | |||
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"Does anyone know about buying from auctions?" I regularly buy at auctions.What do you want to know? | |||
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"Not really swing related but I’ve been looking at Diamond rings lately as I’m gonna ask my other half soon I want the real one but labs are clearer and a hell of a lot cheaper lol what’s everyone’s thoughts? " I've always wanted a blood diamond. C | |||
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"Grown Diamonds are real. They are even fully organic and grown from sustainable and environmentally friendly sources. Mined Diamonds are questionably sourced, mining destroys the environment permanently, massively wasteful when cut, and hugely inflated values at retail when the raw form miners got paid almost nothing. Grown Diamonds are not real,no more than grown Rubies and Sapphires.Diamond mining has gone through a complete revolution in recent years("blood Diamonds" etc),now every stone has to be fully traceable back to source.Once a stone is cut you pay for what is left,not the wastage.That is why there is always a conflict between owner and cutter,the owner wants the biggest stone possible,the cutter wants a cut to show the quality of the stone (clarity,colour) which quite often removes a lot of stone.Grown Diamonds are sold at hugely inflated prices,they are worthless after first sale whereas a real Diamond has a secondary value.If cost is a consideration look at pre owned rings,they are instantly cheaper because there is no VAT,pre owned is eci friendly because it's re cycling.You could have a stone removed and set into a new "shank"(ring) of your choice of style or just to have a brand new feel. my mate at work used to be a jeweller and has said this You're mate is correct.I am a jewellery dealer.Take a look at Victorian/Edwardian rings or anything pre world war two,they tend to be the old cut type,the shank is very very often 18 carat with a platinum mount for the stone.Very good value." he also said this today lol | |||
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"Not really swing related but I’ve been looking at Diamond rings lately as I’m gonna ask my other half soon I want the real one but labs are clearer and a hell of a lot cheaper lol what’s everyone’s thoughts? If they are the type to demand an expensive ring, dump them. There's more to life than trying to please that type of person!" I’m trying to please myself lol she’d be happy with a haribo ring | |||
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"Not really swing related but I’ve been looking at Diamond rings lately as I’m gonna ask my other half soon I want the real one but labs are clearer and a hell of a lot cheaper lol what’s everyone’s thoughts? I dont think it matters as long as your partner likes it. Whats her thoughts on diamonds? I remeber getting a diamond ring for an engagement long time ago now and I was scared to wear it half the time. I ended up getting a similar style moissanite one and wore that mostly. Not a clue other than they sparkle lol " | |||
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"but labs are clearer and a hell of a lot cheaper lol what’s everyone’s thoughts? " Lab grown. I'm all for disruptive technologies which significantly reduce cost to entry and create new markets and give access to product to more people at a much cheaper price. I'm also against monopolies and cartels positioning themselves to take advantage of markets, so seeing capital markets expand with competition is how a free-market economy is supposed to work, without cartel/monopoly distortion. | |||
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"but labs are clearer and a hell of a lot cheaper lol what’s everyone’s thoughts? Lab grown. I'm all for disruptive technologies which significantly reduce cost to entry and create new markets and give access to product to more people at a much cheaper price. I'm also against monopolies and cartels positioning themselves to take advantage of markets, so seeing capital markets expand with competition is how a free-market economy is supposed to work, without cartel/monopoly distortion. " Labs are not clearer than a comparable Diamond as they are measured the same way.Lab Diamonds are not the same product as a natural Diamond.Thats like saying plywood is the same as Oak because it's wood | |||
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