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"What does it do befor cutting out??" Petrol light comes on | |||
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"I had very similar problems to what you have described, after a week of fault finding, turns out the lambda sensor in the exhaust was playing up and required changing. It never showed up on the dionostics either. " What they said, this was my immediate thought upon reading | |||
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"A car will run without a maf connected so its not going to stop it from starting and cutting out. it could be the egr but as I said you are guessing again, If it is read with ford ids It WILL have stored codes. its only shit cheap obd readers that dont go deep enough to read them. Ford IDS will everytime." I know it will run without the MAF connected, I meant if the symptoms remain the same once its disconnected then there's the problem. I once had a Renault which wouldn't run right, took it to Renault for a diag, they put it on CLIP it diagnosed EGR and MAF faults. Turned out neither were the problem, the oil seperator bottle was blocked. I found that after they spent hours trying to figure out why the parts they replaced didn't cure the problem and kept throwing the same codes. They ended up reimbursing me for parts and labour. | |||
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"A car will run without a maf connected so its not going to stop it from starting and cutting out. it could be the egr but as I said you are guessing again, If it is read with ford ids It WILL have stored codes. its only shit cheap obd readers that dont go deep enough to read them. Ford IDS will everytime. I know it will run without the MAF connected, I meant if the symptoms remain the same once its disconnected then there's the problem. I once had a Renault which wouldn't run right, took it to Renault for a diag, they put it on CLIP it diagnosed EGR and MAF faults. Turned out neither were the problem, the oil seperator bottle was blocked. I found that after they spent hours trying to figure out why the parts they replaced didn't cure the problem and kept throwing the same codes. They ended up reimbursing me for parts and labour." Classic main dealer philosophy! keep chucking expensive parts at a problem and hope for the best is because the guy who is operating the diagnostic equipment does not have the first clue what the part he has dignosed even does. Always baffles me that one How can you diagnose something as faulty if you don't even know what job it does on the engine?? scary very scary | |||
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"Buy a new car - problem solved " lol only had 7 months but using the missus at the moment | |||
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"Buy a new car - problem solved lol only had 7 months but using the missus at the moment " Using the missus is a great idea, but don't abuse her | |||
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"A car will run without a maf connected so its not going to stop it from starting and cutting out. it could be the egr but as I said you are guessing again, If it is read with ford ids It WILL have stored codes. its only shit cheap obd readers that dont go deep enough to read them. Ford IDS will everytime. I know it will run without the MAF connected, I meant if the symptoms remain the same once its disconnected then there's the problem. I once had a Renault which wouldn't run right, took it to Renault for a diag, they put it on CLIP it diagnosed EGR and MAF faults. Turned out neither were the problem, the oil seperator bottle was blocked. I found that after they spent hours trying to figure out why the parts they replaced didn't cure the problem and kept throwing the same codes. They ended up reimbursing me for parts and labour. Classic main dealer philosophy! keep chucking expensive parts at a problem and hope for the best is because the guy who is operating the diagnostic equipment does not have the first clue what the part he has dignosed even does. Always baffles me that one How can you diagnose something as faulty if you don't even know what job it does on the engine?? scary very scary " It is indeed. I was never happy with their explanation so I investigated it myself and got to the problem. All it took was a socket and a squirt of brake cleaner to solve. I got a lot of satisfaction telling the manager of the main dealer that his experts were completely wrong and I wanted my money back...lol To the OP, try joining an online ford forum. There's tons of great advice and tips on those sites as many will have had the same problems. I drive an Alfa and the Alfa forums have saved me a small fortune over the years. | |||
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"A friend had a problem with her car and went on a car website for the make of the car....she read what other people had put about the problem, bought a part and it fixed it. I would do the same if I was you as if you changed all these parts mentioned you are going to need a re morgage " If only life was as simple as that. | |||
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"Buy a new car - problem solved lol only had 7 months but using the missus at the moment Using the missus is a great idea, but don't abuse her " she loves it but i don't abuse her car lol | |||
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"A friend had a problem with her car and went on a car website for the make of the car....she read what other people had put about the problem, bought a part and it fixed it. I would do the same if I was you as if you changed all these parts mentioned you are going to need a re morgage If only life was as simple as that." It was then .... and that was after spending a fortune on garage diagnostics. Don't take offence just because someone found a solution after trying mechanics advice without success. | |||
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" To the OP, try joining an online ford forum. There's tons of great advice and tips on those sites as many will have had the same problems. ." This | |||
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"Just pray its not the DPF (Diesel Particulate Filter), you'll be looking at £1000+ to replace it." Or £400 to remove it | |||
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"????? so what you are saying is don't take your car to someone who has the correct equipment and knows how to use it. just boot up the lap top and go with whatever they say?? Tell me would you do the same if you had something wrong with your body?" The problem with diagnostic computers is they point to a sensor that's picking up a fault. Quite often the fault is elsewhere but its causing a problem further along the system. People rely on these diagnostic too much rather than good old mechanics and often end up replacing parts they don't need to or that can be solved by simply cleaning them. | |||
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" To the OP, try joining an online ford forum. There's tons of great advice and tips on those sites as many will have had the same problems. . This " or if you fall over and hurt yourself don't waste the doctors time as there are plenty of forums on the internet full of advise from people who have had the same problems | |||
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" To the OP, try joining an online ford forum. There's tons of great advice and tips on those sites as many will have had the same problems. . This or if you fall over and hurt yourself don't waste the doctors time as there are plenty of forums on the internet full of advise from people who have had the same problems " Mock all you like but experience has shown me that they work... | |||
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"????? so what you are saying is don't take your car to someone who has the correct equipment and knows how to use it. just boot up the lap top and go with whatever they say?? Tell me would you do the same if you had something wrong with your body? The problem with diagnostic computers is they point to a sensor that's picking up a fault. Quite often the fault is elsewhere but its causing a problem further along the system. People rely on these diagnostic too much rather than good old mechanics and often end up replacing parts they don't need to or that can be solved by simply cleaning them." Modern cars need a combination of capable diagnostic equipment and knowledge how a engine works, sadly these days they only have the equipment and no idea. | |||
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"Just searched a ford forum for the OP. Apparently its common that the emissions test on the MOT can blow the seats out of one of the injectors. It won't show on any diagnostic equipment." And will make a hell of a noise but won't suffer from cutting out. The car has fuel pressure issues. so if it's down the guessing expensive route then the first thing I would do is change the fuel filter and make sure it's a genuine ford part. Bout £50ish I think. then once changed come back on the forum and tell everyone it may or may not have worked. If you want to ask questions on forums about Ford Fiesta 1.4 TDCI engines then do youself a favour and ask for either an expert on Delphi diesel fuel injection or more commonly A Peugeot forum as Ford are absolutly clueless on this type of engine. | |||
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"Just pray its not the DPF (Diesel Particulate Filter), you'll be looking at £1000+ to replace it." We had the same with a Mazda stalling and in the end stopped and wouldn't go again, spent hundreds in all sorts, in the end bought a new DPF from ebay (alot cheaper than other places) and had our local garage fit it and its been running well ever since. When we sell this one we will not buy a Diesel again as they all have then now and they are silly money. But its worth getting it checked as they can be put into a forced regen at a garage if it not completely blocked.. ours was buggered and completely blocked so needed a new one. DPF cost us £260 and think garage charge £50 to fit it. so its not the end of the world. | |||
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"I have a 1.4 tdci fiesta 52plate keeps cutting out when driving to be honest its starting to scare me now " Change the driver | |||
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"Just pray its not the DPF (Diesel Particulate Filter), you'll be looking at £1000+ to replace it. We had the same with a Mazda stalling and in the end stopped and wouldn't go again, spent hundreds in all sorts, in the end bought a new DPF from ebay (alot cheaper than other places) and had our local garage fit it and its been running well ever since. When we sell this one we will not buy a Diesel again as they all have then now and they are silly money. But its worth getting it checked as they can be put into a forced regen at a garage if it not completely blocked.. ours was buggered and completely blocked so needed a new one. DPF cost us £260 and think garage charge £50 to fit it. so its not the end of the world. " Don't worry your fiesta doesn't have one | |||
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"Just had another thought. Was the fuel filter changed on the last service? Often, with diesels, they get contaminated with water, it sits in the bottom of the filter and doesn't clear itself so the filter will need changing, given the cold, wet weather we've had recently that's another possibility." i thought it was the fuel filter | |||
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"Just pray its not the DPF (Diesel Particulate Filter), you'll be looking at £1000+ to replace it. We had the same with a Mazda stalling and in the end stopped and wouldn't go again, spent hundreds in all sorts, in the end bought a new DPF from ebay (alot cheaper than other places) and had our local garage fit it and its been running well ever since. When we sell this one we will not buy a Diesel again as they all have then now and they are silly money. But its worth getting it checked as they can be put into a forced regen at a garage if it not completely blocked.. ours was buggered and completely blocked so needed a new one. DPF cost us £260 and think garage charge £50 to fit it. so its not the end of the world. Don't worry your fiesta doesn't have one" I thought all diesels had to have them from 2002 onwards. | |||
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"Just pray its not the DPF (Diesel Particulate Filter), you'll be looking at £1000+ to replace it. We had the same with a Mazda stalling and in the end stopped and wouldn't go again, spent hundreds in all sorts, in the end bought a new DPF from ebay (alot cheaper than other places) and had our local garage fit it and its been running well ever since. When we sell this one we will not buy a Diesel again as they all have then now and they are silly money. But its worth getting it checked as they can be put into a forced regen at a garage if it not completely blocked.. ours was buggered and completely blocked so needed a new one. DPF cost us £260 and think garage charge £50 to fit it. so its not the end of the world. Don't worry your fiesta doesn't have one I thought all diesels had to have them from 2002 onwards." No. Fords started fitting them in certain models from 2005. Audi offered them as an option at first I really do feel for someone who owns a car fitted with a Particlate filter. I get paranoid when driving them around waiting for the light to come on. The warning light for the dpf is usually a picture of an exhaust. what it should be is a £ sign lite up in red as it will cost you ££s one way or another | |||
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"Got my dpf ripped out... Was costin me too much each year.....and car permanently on safety mode when it went wrong....and the cost of the additive that no one wants to put in..... Best money I ever spent(nearly) As above.. I will probably never buy another car that needs one..." I know, we remove on average a dozen of these things each week and the average man in the street who buys a car with one of these fitted know nothing about the trouble they will cause as the salesman doesn't inform them | |||
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"Got my dpf ripped out... Was costin me too much each year.....and car permanently on safety mode when it went wrong....and the cost of the additive that no one wants to put in..... Best money I ever spent(nearly) As above.. I will probably never buy another car that needs one..." I had the one fitted to my old Renault DCI removed and the ECU remapped to run without it two days after I bought it...Cost £350 and saved me hundreds more both in fuel and problems down the line. I'd never consider buying another diesel after that car. | |||
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"Got my dpf ripped out... Was costin me too much each year.....and car permanently on safety mode when it went wrong....and the cost of the additive that no one wants to put in..... Best money I ever spent(nearly) As above.. I will probably never buy another car that needs one... I had the one fitted to my old Renault DCI removed and the ECU remapped to run without it two days after I bought it...Cost £350 and saved me hundreds more both in fuel and problems down the line. I'd never consider buying another diesel after that car." I also had the EGR valve blanked too. You wouldn't believe the extra fuel economy I got from it, a little more power too. | |||
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"Got my dpf ripped out... Was costin me too much each year.....and car permanently on safety mode when it went wrong....and the cost of the additive that no one wants to put in..... Best money I ever spent(nearly) As above.. I will probably never buy another car that needs one... I had the one fitted to my old Renault DCI removed and the ECU remapped to run without it two days after I bought it...Cost £350 and saved me hundreds more both in fuel and problems down the line. I'd never consider buying another diesel after that car." When you had the contents of your filter in the exhaust removed did you ask for the contents back?? You would have got £70 off the scrap man for it. | |||
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"Got my dpf ripped out... Was costin me too much each year.....and car permanently on safety mode when it went wrong....and the cost of the additive that no one wants to put in..... Best money I ever spent(nearly) As above.. I will probably never buy another car that needs one... I had the one fitted to my old Renault DCI removed and the ECU remapped to run without it two days after I bought it...Cost £350 and saved me hundreds more both in fuel and problems down the line. I'd never consider buying another diesel after that car. When you had the contents of your filter in the exhaust removed did you ask for the contents back?? You would have got £70 off the scrap man for it." I never thought of that...lol | |||
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"Got my dpf ripped out... Was costin me too much each year.....and car permanently on safety mode when it went wrong....and the cost of the additive that no one wants to put in..... Best money I ever spent(nearly) As above.. I will probably never buy another car that needs one... I know, we remove on average a dozen of these things each week and the average man in the street who buys a car with one of these fitted know nothing about the trouble they will cause as the salesman doesn't inform them " We kept the old one so we can get the dpf removed then should there be an issue again we will put that on and get it re mapped.. | |||
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"Got my dpf ripped out... Was costin me too much each year.....and car permanently on safety mode when it went wrong....and the cost of the additive that no one wants to put in..... Best money I ever spent(nearly) As above.. I will probably never buy another car that needs one... I know, we remove on average a dozen of these things each week and the average man in the street who buys a car with one of these fitted know nothing about the trouble they will cause as the salesman doesn't inform them We kept the old one so we can get the dpf removed then should there be an issue again we will put that on and get it re mapped.." Do youself a favour and sell it. Don't consider refitting it. Life is hard enough without worrying about things like them things.lol | |||
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"Got my dpf ripped out... Was costin me too much each year.....and car permanently on safety mode when it went wrong....and the cost of the additive that no one wants to put in..... Best money I ever spent(nearly) As above.. I will probably never buy another car that needs one... I know, we remove on average a dozen of these things each week and the average man in the street who buys a car with one of these fitted know nothing about the trouble they will cause as the salesman doesn't inform them We kept the old one so we can get the dpf removed then should there be an issue again we will put that on and get it re mapped.. Do youself a favour and sell it. Don't consider refitting it. Life is hard enough without worrying about things like them things.lol " never thought of selling it.. not bad idea though save keep tripping over the bloomin thing lol | |||
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" To the OP, try joining an online ford forum. There's tons of great advice and tips on those sites as many will have had the same problems. . This or if you fall over and hurt yourself don't waste the doctors time as there are plenty of forums on the internet full of advise from people who have had the same problems " But when you have exhausted the so called professionals who can't find what is wrong with the car and are about to ditch the car , then finding the answer on a website that lots of people are on who own the same cars....you know these sites work for some. | |||
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"????? so what you are saying is don't take your car to someone who has the correct equipment and knows how to use it. just boot up the lap top and go with whatever they say?? Tell me would you do the same if you had something wrong with your body?" If that is to me, maybe read what I put about it already been seen by garages who couldn't diagnose what the problem was. | |||
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"FORD = 'F'ixed 'O'r 'R'epaired 'D'aily! " oh that takes me back as it was referring to the mk1 escorts | |||
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"????? so what you are saying is don't take your car to someone who has the correct equipment and knows how to use it. just boot up the lap top and go with whatever they say?? Tell me would you do the same if you had something wrong with your body? If that is to me, maybe read what I put about it already been seen by garages who couldn't diagnose what the problem was." Thats why I said in the very first reply to take your Ford to some establishment who has Ford IDS equipment as it will show or at the very least point them in the right direction, any other diagnostic equipment will only waste time and your money. | |||
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"Apparently its fixed it was a loose earth wire going to take the car out later and see " PMSL - the simplest of things, but tracking it down .... | |||
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"FORD = 'F'ixed 'O'r 'R'epaired 'D'aily! " Thank goodness it`s not a F*****g Italian After Thought! Sorry Fiat owners! Only joking! | |||
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"????? so what you are saying is don't take your car to someone who has the correct equipment and knows how to use it. just boot up the lap top and go with whatever they say?? Tell me would you do the same if you had something wrong with your body? If that is to me, maybe read what I put about it already been seen by garages who couldn't diagnose what the problem was. Thats why I said in the very first reply to take your Ford to some establishment who has Ford IDS equipment as it will show or at the very least point them in the right direction, any other diagnostic equipment will only waste time and your money." I havn't got a Ford, and the person who had the car didn't have a Ford either She did however take it to the Renault Dealer who diagnosed it wrong twice before she finally went to the Renault forum and found a lot of people with the same problem as hers, bought the same part they had bought and touch wood not had any problems since as it fixed the problem. | |||
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"????? so what you are saying is don't take your car to someone who has the correct equipment and knows how to use it. just boot up the lap top and go with whatever they say?? Tell me would you do the same if you had something wrong with your body? If that is to me, maybe read what I put about it already been seen by garages who couldn't diagnose what the problem was. Thats why I said in the very first reply to take your Ford to some establishment who has Ford IDS equipment as it will show or at the very least point them in the right direction, any other diagnostic equipment will only waste time and your money. I havn't got a Ford, and the person who had the car didn't have a Ford either She did however take it to the Renault Dealer who diagnosed it wrong twice before she finally went to the Renault forum and found a lot of people with the same problem as hers, bought the same part they had bought and touch wood not had any problems since as it fixed the problem. " That's exactly what I did with mine. Once it was fixed (see my earlier post) I sold it. | |||
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