FabSwingers.com forum: Sex worker status, thoughts?

By *ovienight OP Couple
over a year ago

Cardiff

So over time lots of people have approached us and offered money for content which as we all know is now a hugely saturated market courtesy of OF. It’s not why we’re here and we’ve not gone down that route but do you think there’s still a stigma to being a “sex worker” of any description or are we past that?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm 100% about free choice. My only issue is keep it the the right outlets. So sick of ponces after a pay day on here and my favourite FETish LIFEstyle site is now pretty much an OF catalogue. If people choose sex/adult work as a profession then more power to them. O just don't like the chivvy cunts that pop up on here trying to scratch up some change.

"Who's getting me a supporters code?" It's a fiver ffs!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There may be a stigma from less confident or free thinking people but selling sex is one of the oldest professions and still brings in good money, we've been thinking of doing some cam websites as we appear on cam on this site and its no problem so might aswell make money for it (obviously not this website).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Depends on the generation but more I think it’s also about the values I’d the people.

Sex work is work. But the stigma definitely still exists. People still shame and judge sex workers.

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By *atnip make me purrWoman
over a year ago

Reading

I would legalise it. There us way too much abuse in the system right now.

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By *ovienight OP Couple
over a year ago

Cardiff

So nice to see considered and thoughtful comments, although the “it’s only a fiver” did have weak haha

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By *oodsman1000Man
over a year ago

Hereford

It's the oldest profession,may it continue..

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By *ohndom2023Man
over a year ago

Hastings/Greenwich

We are all selling something skills, knowledge why not sex?

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By *oodsman1000Man
over a year ago

Hereford

I wish I could sell it

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By *egDaySkipperMan
over a year ago

Liverpool

You do you! Honestly, if you can pay off a whole mortgage from one video, go for it.

If my partner wanted to do OF, I would at least want a packet of biscuits and maybe some grapes as weekly tax

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By *vbride1963TV/TS
over a year ago

E.K . Glasgow

If it’s legal then at least the government might get some tax from the workers to put towards safety and sexual health funding .

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By *oodsman1000Man
over a year ago

Hereford

"If it’s legal then at least the government might get some tax from the workers to put towards safety and sexual health funding .

Fuck the government, keep it real

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As long as they are doing it of their own free will and not being exploited absolutely fine by us

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By *oodsman1000Man
over a year ago

Hereford

"As long as they are doing it of their own free will and not being exploited absolutely fine by us

Totally agree, no pimps allowed

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By *inger_SnapWoman
over a year ago

Hampshire/Dorset

Yes, there's definitely still a stigma attached to it, look at all the trolling people get, even with OF being pretty much the norm these days.

It really should be legalised so people are more protected.

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By *oodsman1000Man
over a year ago

Hereford

I have a friend who's a dominatrix and she makes lot's of money standing on mens bollocks.good for her!!

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By *arlequin_tearsMan
over a year ago

Sheffield

"do you think there’s still a stigma to being a “sex worker” of any description or are we past that?

(Happy to share our thoughts

With Ann Summers on the high street, people becoming content creators on OF or Pornhub etc, and people becoming more adventurous in the bedroom there is certainly less stigma.

However, there is still A LOT of stigma.

Most towns you will find a lot of protests around the presence of the suggested opening of a strip or lap dancing club.

Or the idea of a Swinging Club.

While legalisation and regulation of prostitution would make human trafficking more difficult, would be healthier and safer for sex workers etc. it's very unlikely to happen in the UK.

I have a friend who is a pole dance instructor and while she is a dancer not a sex worker. Most of her friends are sex workers because of the reputation of pole dancing.

Same with the number of users on fab who hide their face pics because they are afraid of what will happen if their relatives or colleagues find out.

So while as people who have sex for fun might not care, the 'general public' are still REALLY fucking judgey.

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By *lipzer KnicksaffWoman
over a year ago

Up My Own Arse Apparently

There's still a stigma and it's still judged. Maybe less so when you do it as part of a couple though.

For a young woman, I have to be honest and say I don't think it's the best career decision in terms of future relationships, family and your own mental health. I can think of few things worse than my children finding pornographic material that I made.

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By *lipzer KnicksaffWoman
over a year ago

Up My Own Arse Apparently

"If it’s legal then at least the government might get some tax from the workers to put towards safety and sexual health funding .

Fuck the government, keep it real

And let mostly women be needlessly exploited and abused. Good one.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Those who do well on OF treat it like a real job and put the work and effort in.

Many try it thinking it's am easy way to money and find it's not

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By *heVonMatterhornsCouple
over a year ago

Lincoln

I agree with others that I have no issue with people doing it, but it irritates me when it's blatantly promoted with cringe-worthy content on other platforms.

If I could pay off our mortgage with feet pics and some effort, you can be damn sure I'd be doing it

LvM

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By *phialtesMan
over a year ago

Beyond the Wall

"do you think there’s still a stigma to being a “sex worker” of any description or are we past that?

(Happy to share our thoughts

Yes there is.

There is too much money to be made by keeping it out of mainstream society.

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By *.L.0460.Woman
over a year ago

Bognor Regis

I know women who are on a paid services site and on here too, but keep the two completely separate. I've also chatted to women whilst on nights out who have discussed getting paid for sex.

It interests me that most people on here say they don't have a problem, but would I love to know how you'd respond if a person you were seeing (non manogamously) admitted they also slept with people for money?

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By *arlequin_tearsMan
over a year ago

Sheffield

"And let mostly women be needlessly exploited and abused. Good one."

Actually, the reverse is very much the case.

Legalisation means regulation. That regulation means that it is more difficult for women to be trafficked, it means mandatory health checks, it means no pimps, easier access to police should a client become abusive etc.

We've seen it time and again.

Prohibition in the US didn't solve issues around alcohol. It made them infinitely worse.

Sex education actively reduces teenage pregnancy rates by empowering teens to understand their own bodies. Removes the taboo that make having sex before people are ready attractive. And when they do decide to have sex they do it safely.

Same with drugs. Education, legalisation and not treating users as criminals are far better options.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

I think, very sadly, that there's still negative stigma connected to sex employment.

We're very stuck in our ways, where adults are embarrassed about sex, there's resistance to sex education and more, in our backwards culture.

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By *uckMan
over a year ago

Scunthorpe DN15

Had a brothel once.

I tried the sexy chaperone Xcourting but for me that didn't take off, I attracted the wrong type of cliental.

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By *uri00620Woman
over a year ago

Croydon

"do you think there’s still a stigma to being a “sex worker” of any description or are we past that?

(Happy to share our thoughts

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With Ann Summers on the high street, people becoming content creators on OF or Pornhub etc, and people becoming more adventurous in the bedroom there is certainly less stigma.

However, there is still A LOT of stigma.

Most towns you will find a lot of protests around the presence of the suggested opening of a strip or lap dancing club.

Or the idea of a Swinging Club.

While legalisation and regulation of prostitution would make human trafficking more difficult, would be healthier and safer for sex workers etc. it's very unlikely to happen in the UK.

I have a friend who is a pole dance instructor and while she is a dancer not a sex worker. Most of her friends are sex workers because of the reputation of pole dancing.

Same with the number of users on fab who hide their face pics because they are afraid of what will happen if their relatives or colleagues find out.

So while as people who have sex for fun might not care, the 'general public' are still REALLY fucking judgey."

Really isn't just the general public. In previous posts about sex work there's been many a critical judgement here.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"And let mostly women be needlessly exploited and abused. Good one.

Actually, the reverse is very much the case.

We've seen it time and again.

Prohibition in the US didn't solve issues around alcohol. It made them infinitely worse.

Same with drugs. Education, legalisation and not treating users as criminals are far better options. "

Does it bollocks. Unscrupulous men will still smuggle over cheaper/younger women and ignore the relevant legislation in order to sell a product at a lower price.

Other unscrupulous men will also pay as little as possible to blow their load, not caring for the welfare of the person they abuse. Let’s be honest, in most relationships the wife is unlikely to be more pleased that her husband is cheating with a ‘responsibly sourced’ sex worker rather than some poor mite who’s forced into it.

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By *lipzer KnicksaffWoman
over a year ago

Up My Own Arse Apparently

"And let mostly women be needlessly exploited and abused. Good one.

Actually, the reverse is very much the case.

We've seen it time and again.

Prohibition in the US didn't solve issues around alcohol. It made them infinitely worse.

Same with drugs. Education, legalisation and not treating users as criminals are far better options. "

That was my point. My response was to the person saying fuck the government having any involvement.

I stand by what I said about not believing it to be a way good way for a person to make a living. The inside of a woman's body shouldn't be a place of work. My view on thst has changed in recent years. However, I'm realistic enough to know that we will never do away with prostitution or sex work. So the next best thing is to make it as safe as possible for anyone who chooses (with the emphasis on chooses) to be part of it.

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By *isfits behaving badlyCouple
over a year ago

Coventry

There's clearly stigma. To take OF as an example people are constantly butt hurt that normal people are making loads of money (they seem even more offended if they deem that person average or not attractive). I think the OF outrage is more jealousy than tradition outrage in this case. People hate that some have found a way to profit off their body, their performance skill and sale savy while they a stuck in wage jobs (which may require a high level of training and experience) for far less money. It's like they see these people as cheating, especially the people they veiw as not very attractive. It especially women. They hate that other women have found a way to buck the system (especially ones they feel have less worth than them), while they are stuck and their wages keep going down in real terms. As a side note they often also diminish the skill and effort involved for OF content creators to make the earnings advertised in the news headlines. Classic example of women turning on women instead of building each other up.

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By *espacito56Man
over a year ago

Orkney

"As long as they are doing it of their own free will and not being exploited absolutely fine by us

Spot on

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By *espacito56Man
over a year ago

Orkney

"As long as they are doing it of their own free will and not being exploited absolutely fine by us

Spot on"

And, quite frankly, given how barren the Fab landscape is in Orkney, if I could find a professional I would surely be inclined to avail myself of the service. No qualms. No stigma.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don’t see why anyone would still be throwing judgement around in 2023! Zero judgement from us and we both have friends who have been sex workers in the past. Online stuff and in person, amazing people that deserve no shame or judgement from anyone.

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By *espacito56Man
over a year ago

Orkney

"I don’t see why anyone would still be throwing judgement around in 2023! Zero judgement from us and we both have friends who have been sex workers in the past. Online stuff and in person, amazing people that deserve no shame or judgement from anyone.

Mr"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If its 100% of their own free will then I guess anyone can do as they please.

Though the whole thing just seems a bit eurgh though, you know.

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By *ostindreamsMan
over a year ago

London

"I'm 100% about free choice. My only issue is keep it the the right outlets. So sick of ponces after a pay day on here and my favourite FETish LIFEstyle site is now pretty much an OF catalogue. If people choose sex/adult work as a profession then more power to them. O just don't like the chivvy cunts that pop up on here trying to scratch up some change.

"Who's getting me a supporters code?" It's a fiver ffs!!!! "

Left that fetish website and fab last year to take a break. I came back to fab but not to the other site for this reason. It was full of OF ads. It's even worse if you are a sub male as there are many people on there who see us as easy targets. The only good thing about it was the events listings.

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By *ostindreamsMan
over a year ago

London

As for general stigma around the profession, I don't judge at all. But the society as a whole still has stigmatisation around the profession. The situation is much better than the past though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We are all selling our boddy parts to earn a living regardless to your occupation. I don't see any difference really.

It's my body to sell the use of my brain, it's my body to sell the use of my hands, it's my body to sell the use of my ****** (random number of stars so no guessing

However being on a swingers site the feedback will be skewed.

Mr H

Note: No we personally don't dabble in any sex industry work (yet)

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By *orthernJayMan
over a year ago

DXB / SG / Thailand Krabi

A close friend of mine exited a horrible controlling marriage, up to her eyes in debt and fairly well fucked! We were in a club one night and an MM couple approached us, asked if they could just speak to her; no drama I said as I headed to the bar!

Two hours later she returned, smiling and happy!

A few days later she said, “do you think I could make money from doing that MM thing for guys?”

Why don’t you find out was my reply!

No shit, she’s paid off her debts, bought a house with a sizeable deposit, a car for cash and has to turn people down because she has a day job and can’t fit in the demand; she has a cast of regular MM’s that book her weeks/months in advance!

Who’d have known!

Each to their own

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just popping along to clarify that prostitution is legal in England and Wales

The only prohibitions are the way in which is is carried out e.g brothels, kerb crawling

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think us Brits have more of a stigma about it than other countries, we can be prudes about some things. Sex workers and porn are rarely featured in dramas or comedies, the last time I remember one was in After Life on Netflix, time before that was the early days of Eastenders.

The Yanks - surprisingly - on the other hand seem to have no problem. I remember in Friends and Joey & Chandler always talking about porn, and didn't Chandler date a sex worker? Then there's The Lady in Red, or Jamie Lee Curtis character in Trading Places.

It's not something that's mentioned or talked about without people Fett all sniffy.

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By *eally_RosieWoman
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

I do both. And keep them completely separate. On here is for mine and hubby’s pleasure only.

The other thing I do as and when I feel like it, between my two vanilla jobs, because I enjoy it and it’s extra pennies. Most of the guys I’ve seen are lovely, and just lonely.

I do however, really feel bad for those who feel like they have no choice, and can’t afford to choose who they see x

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By *orthernJayMan
over a year ago

DXB / SG / Thailand Krabi

"I think us Brits have more of a stigma about it than other countries, we can be prudes about some things. Sex workers and porn are rarely featured in dramas or comedies, the last time I remember one was in After Life on Netflix, time before that was the early days of Eastenders.

It's not something that's mentioned or talked about without people Fett all sniffy. "

Don’t get me started on JLC in Trading Places

Apologies, nothing to do with the thread!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If they’re doing it by choice and not being forced into it then I have no issues with it at all. A friend of mine does OF along side her other job. She enjoys it and it gives her the extra money to be able to do the things she wants to.

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By *obilebottomMan
over a year ago

All over

I don't realy understand the OF concept. Is it live cams etc or access to videos and stuff. Suprised it works for so many as there are so much free stuff out there for those seeking that kind of thing I guess. Each to their own I suppose as nobody ever geys coersed or exploited or does anything illegal. Simple lives are uderated

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In answer to the questions about my own views.

They aren’t doing anything illegal. They can crack on without judgment from me. I am entirely neutral.

Just because I wouldn’t personally want to be involved in it doesn’t make me right and them wrong. There is more than one way to live a life.

I personally wouldn’t want to have a relationship with a sex worker. That isn’t “judging”; that is my preference based on what I would like to impact on my daily life. I would happily have a friendship with a sex worker

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