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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

saw this film, pretty good, but doesn't any1 believe the hole how bin laden got killed. There seems to be to many convenient holes in the story, and i believe he was dead many years before. basically i think its all bull and we r being spun a web of lies.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I find the most intriguing thing about conspiracy theories, is that some people are willing to believe them....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"saw this film, pretty good, but doesn't any1 believe the hole how bin laden got killed. There seems to be to many convenient holes in the story, and i believe he was dead many years before. basically i think its all bull and we r being spun a web of lies."

Could be but the Americans certainly wanted to kill someone to put closure on 9/11.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I find the most intriguing thing about conspiracy theories, is that some people are willing to believe them.... "

better that then just except everything were told as absolute truth, good to be able to question things.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I find the most intriguing thing about conspiracy theories, is that some people are willing to believe them....

better that then just except everything were told as absolute truth, good to be able to question things."

What possible motive would the US government have to risk being publicly humiliated in the eyes of the world if it was later found to be fake,,,...?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Personally i thought the majority of the film was quite good , however the final part ( the raid on the compound ) made the americans look unprofessional and downright stupid in my eyes !! For starters did no one else actually notice that a helicopter had crashed in their back garden lol ???

An anonymous SAS member said after seeing it we would of been in and out in less than 5 mins , yet it seemed to take the americans somewhere like 20 mins ??

Chances are it wasnt bin laden anyway as why would you kill one of the biggest military assets in the middle east ??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There is a reason why the Americans have decided not to release Bin Laden's death photos and I agree with them. The last thing we all need is a bunch of jihadis inflamed even more than they already are stripping B&Q of fertiliser and Tescos of Concentrated OJ.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"An anonymous SAS member said after seeing it we would of been in and out in less than 5 mins , yet it seemed to take the americans somewhere like 20 mins ?? "

If you wanted accuracy why did you go and see a film produced by Hollywood?

They could have given you accuracy but you'd have been in and out of the cinema in 10 mins.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I find the most intriguing thing about conspiracy theories, is that some people are willing to believe them....

better that then just except everything were told as absolute truth, good to be able to question things.

What possible motive would the US government have to risk being publicly humiliated in the eyes of the world if it was later found to be fake,,,...?

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theres plenty of motive, i can't believe u just said that, the americans wanted a reason to put military personnel in pakistan, therefore blaming them for harbouring OBL, then it was the same time obamas citizenship was being questioned, needed to shift that out the limelight. That he died year's before but they needed a face to put to the war on terror, so they pretended he was alive to put a face to it, or that he died years before but they knew that was a really good story, so they kept it for an appropriate time, also popularity points with the election coming up the year after it happened. Thats just me with my limited knowledge, and off the top of my head, from what I've read in paper's, herd on the news, or online. how you just said what possible motive would the american government have is just bordering on unbelievable ignorance

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"An anonymous SAS member said after seeing it we would of been in and out in less than 5 mins , yet it seemed to take the americans somewhere like 20 mins ??

If you wanted accuracy why did you go and see a film produced by Hollywood?

They could have given you accuracy but you'd have been in and out of the cinema in 10 mins."

i didnt want accurcy from the film, i never said that, i just said i watched the film, but what do people think about the OBL conspiracy, not for one minute did i think i was gonna get accurate facts from a hollywood film.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well, OBL hasn't released any more videos for a while now.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Apparently Katherine Bigelow ( producer ) was allowed access to CIA files on the whole story, thats why its supposed to be as close to what happened as possible.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Apparently Katherine Bigelow ( producer ) was allowed access to CIA files on the whole story, thats why its supposed to be as close to what happened as possible."

I believe they got him that night, I'm not too sure about whether they buried him at sea though. I think he's on ice somewhere in the US.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I did laugh at the bit when they 2 US soldiers are on the stairs calling " Obama, Obama " lmao !!!

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By *UNKIEMan
over a year ago

south east

wouldnt have been much of a film if they had been in and out in 5 mins....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've not seen the film yet. Will do soon though.

I thought the way they disposed of his body a bit strange. I understand the reasons. I would've thought that had you killed the "worlds most wanted man" you would've taken pictures/videos. But then these can also be faked.

I think the whole thing was so Obama got more popular with voters. He'll always be known for being the president who got the bad man.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some years ago Benazhir Bhutto named a terrorist as the 'man who killed Bin Laden' in an interview with David Frost on Al Jazeera. For some reason Frost didn't pick her up on it. while later someone murdered her.Musharraf claimed he was dead too. The French secret service claimed BL was dead in 2002. Bush was claiming that BL wasn't a priority as early as 2006. Then that's the whole Tim Osman thing. I've got no idea what the truth is but I suspect few people ever will

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I find the most intriguing thing about conspiracy theories, is that some people are willing to believe them....

better that then just except everything were told as absolute truth, good to be able to question things.

What possible motive would the US government have to risk being publicly humiliated in the eyes of the world if it was later found to be fake,,,...?

theres plenty of motive, i can't believe u just said that, the americans wanted a reason to put military personnel in pakistan, therefore blaming them for harbouring OBL, then it was the same time obamas citizenship was being questioned, needed to shift that out the limelight. That he died year's before but they needed a face to put to the war on terror, so they pretended he was alive to put a face to it, or that he died years before but they knew that was a really good story, so they kept it for an appropriate time, also popularity points with the election coming up the year after it happened. Thats just me with my limited knowledge, and off the top of my head, from what I've read in paper's, herd on the news, or online. how you just said what possible motive would the american government have is just bordering on unbelievable ignorance "

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By *ayjay218Man
over a year ago

Aberdeen

going to see it tonight. Just hoping it is a good movie and i'm sure the story has been holywoodized.

*new word there*

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"going to see it tonight. Just hoping it is a good movie and i'm sure the story has been holywoodized.

*new word there*"

Dont waste your money download it lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Many American foreign policy descisons are decided by monetary and oil interests.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

OBL was so wanted he would of been too much of a burden to al quida or taliban, so therefore they would of been better off without him, he would of been useless to them. and who say there haven't been more vids of him, and who said the ones that were around were real?.......one theory suggests OBL was working with the americans ha ha. he was heavily involved in oil and the bin laden family are billionaires, they would of had a lot of dealings with people high up in america. burying him at sea i ent buying that, they knew the conspiracy it would cause, and as for potentially sparking more muslim extremist terrorist attacks, by realising pictures of the body or providing some substantial facts to prove it, wouldn't the the fact they killed him then made a film about it do that anyway,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Some years ago Benazhir Bhutto named a terrorist as the 'man who killed Bin Laden' in an interview with David Frost on Al Jazeera. For some reason Frost didn't pick her up on it. while later someone murdered her.Musharraf claimed he was dead too. The French secret service claimed BL was dead in 2002. Bush was claiming that BL wasn't a priority as early as 2006. Then that's the whole Tim Osman thing. I've got no idea what the truth is but I suspect few people ever will"

He's probably sipping tea with Kennedy's killers somewhere in the Cayman Islands.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Some years ago Benazhir Bhutto named a terrorist as the 'man who killed Bin Laden' in an interview with David Frost on Al Jazeera. For some reason Frost didn't pick her up on it. while later someone murdered her.Musharraf claimed he was dead too. The French secret service claimed BL was dead in 2002. Bush was claiming that BL wasn't a priority as early as 2006. Then that's the whole Tim Osman thing. I've got no idea what the truth is but I suspect few people ever will

He's probably sipping tea with Kennedy's killers somewhere in the Cayman Islands. "

Lmao Nahh, ObL , Elvis and Saddam are on Richard Bransons Island drinking Gin and Juice with Tupac

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By *inkyScot22Man
over a year ago

Anniesland


"basically i think its all bull and we r being spun a web of lies."

The fundamental flaw with most conspiracy theories is the assumption that those who orchestrate them (usually 'the government') could actually organise anything more complex than a piss up in a brewery and even then the implementation of said piss up has a less than 30% chance of going off without hitches.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"basically i think its all bull and we r being spun a web of lies.

The fundamental flaw with most conspiracy theories is the assumption that those who orchestrate them (usually 'the government') could actually organise anything more complex than a piss up in a brewery and even then the implementation of said piss up has a less than 30% chance of going off without hitches."

The moon landing conspiracy is the one that makes me howl with laughter. It's astonishing that some folk really believe it was faked. How many people work for NASA and are involved in each launch, mission and return to Earth? IT would need all of them to keep quiet for the rest of their lives and human beings just can't keep secrets for that long. One of them would have talked.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"basically i think its all bull and we r being spun a web of lies.

The fundamental flaw with most conspiracy theories is the assumption that those who orchestrate them (usually 'the government') could actually organise anything more complex than a piss up in a brewery and even then the implementation of said piss up has a less than 30% chance of going off without hitches.

The moon landing conspiracy is the one that makes me howl with laughter. It's astonishing that some folk really believe it was faked. How many people work for NASA and are involved in each launch, mission and return to Earth? IT would need all of them to keep quiet for the rest of their lives and human beings just can't keep secrets for that long. One of them would have talked."

some conspiracy's hold more weight then others, some are ridiculous and others could have an element of truth to them, all good fun thoe.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Like no-one in al-quida would have seized the opportunity to belittle the US administration by sayin sumit like’’’,

“pissst, over here Mr Reporter, bring your camera….. Look this is where we buried the real BinLaden years ago”,,,, them yanks are trying to fool you!!!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Like no-one in al-quida would have seized the opportunity to belittle the US administration by sayin sumit like’’’,

“pissst, over here Mr Reporter, bring your camera….. Look this is where we buried the real BinLaden years ago”,,,, them yanks are trying to fool you!!!

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ye but that might of happened, how do you know it hasn't, in fact it has, its all over the internet people saying look here this is what happened, he was never there he was here, etc the president of countries like iran said he was dead years before,

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By *ayjay218Man
over a year ago

Aberdeen


"going to see it tonight. Just hoping it is a good movie and i'm sure the story has been holywoodized.

*new word there*

Dont waste your money download it lol "
Yeh cheaper but i do like going to the cinema

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If the Moon landings were real, why hasn't anyone put foot on there since 1973?

Just saying.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Like no-one in al-quida would have seized the opportunity to belittle the US administration by sayin sumit like’’’,

“pissst, over here Mr Reporter, bring your camera….. Look this is where we buried the real BinLaden years ago”,,,, them yanks are trying to fool you!!!

ye but that might of happened, how do you know it hasn't, in fact it has, its all over the internet people saying look here this is what happened, he was never there he was here, etc the president of countries like iran said he was dead years before, "

Yeah…. hmmmm!

There’s that famous quote attributed to Abraham Lincoln, where he strongly advises people

"Don't believe everything they read on the internet"…….

Ya get-me... eh!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I find the most intriguing thing about conspiracy theories, is that some people are willing to believe them.... "

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Like no-one in al-quida would have seized the opportunity to belittle the US administration by sayin sumit like’’’,

“pissst, over here Mr Reporter, bring your camera….. Look this is where we buried the real BinLaden years ago”,,,, them yanks are trying to fool you!!!

ye but that might of happened, how do you know it hasn't, in fact it has, its all over the internet people saying look here this is what happened, he was never there he was here, etc the president of countries like iran said he was dead years before,

Yeah…. hmmmm!

There’s that famous quote attributed to Abraham Lincoln, where he strongly advises people

"Don't believe everything they read on the internet"…….

Ya get-me... eh! "

obviously dont belive everything, but when things reacour from different sources, also clips on youtube, things like that then sometimes they ring true, also in the case of OBL theres no proof its true and he is really dead, i.e. 9/11 we saw what happened with our own eyes and al quida took responsibility and theres loads of proof about them having flying lessons etc, but with OBL there is no proof so is obviously open to conspiracy without it being a conspiracy nut

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Quote....

"The only time I commit to conspiracy theories is when something way retarded happens. Like Lee Harvey Oswald acting alone. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Everyone should watch the 3 zeitgeist movies and loose change plus the obama deception great conspiracy documentaries you get alot of information

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Everyone should watch the 3 zeitgeist movies and loose change plus the obama deception great conspiracy documentaries you get alot of information "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The more people try to justify "not" being able to prove anomalies in their conspiracy theories, the more they undermine its credibility….!.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The issue I have with these kinds of things is... Why doesn't anyone say anything? People directly involved I mean.

Considering the massive amount of people who would have been involved in faking something like 9/11 or whatever I find it really hard to believe that not one of them comes forward and says something like "I was told to falsify this" or something like that... I mean we couldn't even keep the identity of the new batman villain a secret so it seems kinda far fetched that out of all the people involved in covering up something like that nobody got a bit guilty and came out with a bit of evidence.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"

The issue I have with these kinds of things is... Why doesn't anyone say anything? People directly involved I mean.

Considering the massive amount of people who would have been involved in faking something like 9/11 or whatever I find it really hard to believe that not one of them comes forward and says something like "I was told to falsify this" or something like that... I mean we couldn't even keep the identity of the new batman villain a secret so it seems kinda far fetched that out of all the people involved in covering up something like that nobody got a bit guilty and came out with a bit of evidence."

people have talked, but they just get palmed off as nuts, and people dismiss them as liars, but theres about 4 people who have talked who were involved

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe but nobody ever comes forward with really damning evidence like "here's the test result that proves this" or something like that when there's a whole load of people who could have potentially had access to something like that... People can say anything they like but to me they just never seem to have enough hard evidence to be believable...

That being said I'm pretty sure they didn't tell us everything but I really don't think there's any giant conspiracy either.

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By *leasureDomeMan
over a year ago

all over the place


"saw this film, pretty good, but doesn't any1 believe the hole how bin laden got killed. There seems to be to many convenient holes in the story, and i believe he was dead many years before. basically i think its all bull and we r being spun a web of lies."

Now i have a theory based completely on no evidence what so ever,except it seems logical. I do not believe he is dead ,i think he may as well be though ,i think the people who have him will be making sure they got every tiny last bit of information from him before dispatch and put through a mincer.

As i say no evidence just a hunch,based on nothing more than "Hell hath no fury like the Americans scorned".

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Maybe but nobody ever comes forward with really damning evidence like "here's the test result that proves this" or something like that when there's a whole load of people who could have potentially had access to something like that... People can say anything they like but to me they just never seem to have enough hard evidence to be believable...

That being said I'm pretty sure they didn't tell us everything but I really don't think there's any giant conspiracy either."

There's plenty of engineers out there who will tell you how buildings collapse let alone collapse 40 minutes after the bbc said they have (wtc 7). and NY fire fighters who reported seeing rivers of molten steel below the towers. aviation fuel won't do that so what did?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

On YouTube it tells you the amount of people who talked and are now dead and died in weird and some suspicious ways

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Maybe but nobody ever comes forward with really damning evidence like "here's the test result that proves this" or something like that when there's a whole load of people who could have potentially had access to something like that... People can say anything they like but to me they just never seem to have enough hard evidence to be believable...

That being said I'm pretty sure they didn't tell us everything but I really don't think there's any giant conspiracy either.

There's plenty of engineers out there who will tell you how buildings collapse let alone collapse 40 minutes after the bbc said they have (wtc 7). and NY fire fighters who reported seeing rivers of molten steel below the towers. aviation fuel won't do that so what did?"

I've always believed it was thermite. Just by the way the metal seems to be cut in neat angles

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By *heekygeordieguyMan
over a year ago

Newcastle


"

The issue I have with these kinds of things is... Why doesn't anyone say anything? People directly involved I mean.

Considering the massive amount of people who would have been involved in faking something like 9/11 or whatever I find it really hard to believe that not one of them comes forward and says something like "I was told to falsify this" or something like that... I mean we couldn't even keep the identity of the new batman villain a secret so it seems kinda far fetched that out of all the people involved in covering up something like that nobody got a bit guilty and came out with a bit of evidence."

Took 23 years for the Hillsborough truth to come out. !!!!

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay


"Well, OBL hasn't released any more videos for a while now. "

He's give up making films and is embarking on a theatre tour instead, he fancies trying a bit of Noel Coward but hasn't ruled out returning to film for a remake of Rambo 3.....

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

They took Bin Laden to Area 51 and are at this very moment attempting to mate him with an alien that crashed years ago in the Nevada desert....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It was proven that the superstructure was built to with stand 3000 degrees and plane fuel only burns at 2000. So it could not of been the heat from the fuel that melted the structure.

Also there is clear footage of small explosions popping out of the windows seconds before the towers collapsed ??

Read into that what you will but all a bit dodgy if you ask me lol ??

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By *leasureDomeMan
over a year ago

all over the place


"They took Bin Laden to Area 51 and are at this very moment attempting to mate him with an alien that crashed years ago in the Nevada desert...."

ha ha ha why not ,they have done stranger things and expected to get away with it ,look at Bradley Manning's case

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"WikiLeaks: Bradley Manning was illegally imprisoned,tortured and denied due process – Judge Colonel Denise Lind, rules, but she is too much a coward to do the right thing"

A military judge has ruled that the US soldier accused of handing hundreds of thousands of classified documents to WikiLeaks was imprisoned under illegal conditions but refused to dismiss charges against him.

Lawyers for Private First Class Bradley Manning argued that he was abused during his nine months at a Marine Corps prison in Virginia and that his mistreatment should lead to the dismissal of the 22 charges against him"

The Bill of what ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They took Bin Laden to Area 51 and are at this very moment attempting to mate him with an alien that crashed years ago in the Nevada desert....

ha ha ha why not ,they have done stranger things and expected to get away with it ,look at Bradley Manning's case

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"WikiLeaks: Bradley Manning was illegally imprisoned,tortured and denied due process – Judge Colonel Denise Lind, rules, but she is too much a coward to do the right thing"

A military judge has ruled that the US soldier accused of handing hundreds of thousands of classified documents to WikiLeaks was imprisoned under illegal conditions but refused to dismiss charges against him.

Lawyers for Private First Class Bradley Manning argued that he was abused during his nine months at a Marine Corps prison in Virginia and that his mistreatment should lead to the dismissal of the 22 charges against him"

The Bill of what ?

"

I've seen the collateral murder video. Its harrowing stuff. Mannings subsequent treatment is horrendous despite the rights and wrongs of his actions

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I did laugh at the bit when they 2 US soldiers are on the stairs calling " Obama, Obama " lmao !!! "

Just seen it and it was a good film. However truthful it was

The soldiers say "osama, osama" not "Obama, Obama"

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