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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Tom is no fan of these Evo types but last night they did a good thing in Toms opinion. They silenced the proms. Well done to shut that racket up. Glastonbury next ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Or maybe Essex_Tom?

Shut that racket up!

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"Or maybe Essex_Tom?

Shut that racket up!

"

How bloody dare you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Weird bunch...protesting in scrubs and telling us your profession as if that gives any form of leverage

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Or maybe Essex_Tom?

Shut that racket up!

How bloody dare you "

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By *adMerWoman
over a year ago

Sandwich

Is it just me that feels as though it’s more virtue signalling than true care for the planet?

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By *oofy321Man
over a year ago

moon base zero

How long till one of these muppets is killed?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How long till one of these muppets is killed?"

They care about the cause. Don’t think that bothers them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Or they kill someone with their brain dead antics

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I like the videos when there protesting with few beers on the go, just a cheap day out for some students with nothibg better to do. Also what are they actually protesting against?

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By *ibblepilotMan
over a year ago

Preston


"Is it just me that feels as though it’s more virtue signalling than true care for the planet?"

It's become quite the thing this last 3 years though hasn't it but not just the planet and the so-called climate crisis. Everything is a crisis it seems

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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago

East London

Unless I knew each one of them in person I couldn't comment on their behaviour.

I know someone who has so much hatred for the establishment that he'll protest anything, and stir others up, even if he has limited knowledge of the cause.

He'll walk the length of the country to be present at something.

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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago

East London


"I like the videos when there protesting with few beers on the go, just a cheap day out for some students with nothibg better to do. Also what are they actually protesting against? "

Oil. They want to stop oil.

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By *un-n-frolicsMan
over a year ago

London


"Is it just me that feels as though it’s more virtue signalling than true care for the planet?"

Seems it’s not just you. But equally, you may be using that idea as an excuse to put them down and do nothing whilst the planet burns?

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By *ouple4voyeurCouple
over a year ago

Birmingham

Perhaps the gov should let them see what a world without oil is like.

Stop selling diesel/petrol for 1 month. No deliveries so no food, no getting to work etc etc.

They prob all go into the petrol amd diesel cars and drive home after their protest.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How long till one of these muppets is killed?

They care about the cause. Don’t think that bothers them. "

Do they really though??

Or is it a case well it's either I protest or I get a job...

I think a lot of people protest for the sake of protesting. Not for the actual cause.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I like the videos when there protesting with few beers on the go, just a cheap day out for some students with nothibg better to do. Also what are they actually protesting against?

Oil. They want to stop oil.

"

dont you think they should leed by example then arriving at these protests on a bus wearing polyester doesnt strike me as stoping oil right down to the plastic signs some were carying last week in london and even the marker pen that they write there message with, the only way they should be able to carry on this stupid campaign is to not use oil them selves before telling others to stop and there is no point blaming the goverment untill they have sorted there own lifestyle out to meet the stop oil that they so desperately seem to care about.

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe


"I like the videos when there protesting with few beers on the go, just a cheap day out for some students with nothibg better to do. Also what are they actually protesting against? "

They want the government to commit to: Stopping further oil exploration, and issuing licenses for any new drilling.

To be fair, it would make sense! Unfortunately governments make loads of money from oil, several Tory MPs have held high level positions in Oil Companies, and hold huge investment portfolio in oil. On top of that there are many declared donations from Oil Companies to the Tory Party's funds... so there may be a slight "conflict of interest" here.

I'm sure there are also politicians from other parties who also have connections to oil firms too... but obviously they're not the ones in power.

Cal

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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago

East London


"Is it just me that feels as though it’s more virtue signalling than true care for the planet?

Seems it’s not just you. But equally, you may be using that idea as an excuse to put them down and do nothing whilst the planet burns?"

I believe some young people follow the crowd and do things for the attention (I know some).

I don't know what I can do to stop oil.

I reuse plastic bags and use public transport.

I don't think that will make companies stop drilling for oil or other companies buying it for fuel or to make plastic bags with.

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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago

East London


"I like the videos when there protesting with few beers on the go, just a cheap day out for some students with nothibg better to do. Also what are they actually protesting against?

Oil. They want to stop oil.

dont you think they should leed by example then arriving at these protests on a bus wearing polyester doesnt strike me as stoping oil right down to the plastic signs some were carying last week in london and even the marker pen that they write there message with, the only way they should be able to carry on this stupid campaign is to not use oil them selves before telling others to stop and there is no point blaming the goverment untill they have sorted there own lifestyle out to meet the stop oil that they so desperately seem to care about."

That oil has already been extracted.

We used to manage before everything went plastic, but now we consume so much more we might not have enough alternative resources for the amount of consumers we have.

Maybe we need a population control.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How long till one of these muppets is killed?

They care about the cause. Don’t think that bothers them.

Do they really though??

Or is it a case well it's either I protest or I get a job...

I think a lot of people protest for the sake of protesting. Not for the actual cause."

I.e rent a mob

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By *UGGYBEAR2015Man
over a year ago

BRIDPORT


"Is it just me that feels as though it’s more virtue signalling than true care for the planet?"

You are not alone.

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

The confetti woman at Osbourne's wedding was good. No-one knew if she was JSO or just a well wisher. When there's hype from the colour of confetti, someone's doing something right.

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe


"

dont you think they should leed by example then arriving at these protests on a bus wearing polyester doesnt strike me as stoping oil right down to the plastic signs some were carying last week in london and even the marker pen that they write there message with, the only way they should be able to carry on this stupid campaign is to not use oil them selves before telling others to stop and there is no point blaming the goverment untill they have sorted there own lifestyle out to meet the stop oil that they so desperately seem to care about."

Do you realise that the guys who invented the Bicycle rode a horse, the men who created the first light bulbs worked by lamp light. Charles Babbage's plans for a digital computer were drawn by hand, and Thomas Crapper used to shit in a bucket...

Every step of progress is created within using the tools what we already had.

Cal

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks


"How long till one of these muppets is killed?"

Well the person in charge of these useful types did put the feelers out for someone emulating the chap who set himself on fire in America but couldn’t find no takers.

He’s a more do as I say not as I do type of guy. Which is why you never see him at the demos.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How long till one of these muppets is killed?

They care about the cause. Don’t think that bothers them.

Do they really though??

Or is it a case well it's either I protest or I get a job...

I think a lot of people protest for the sake of protesting. Not for the actual cause."

I think a lot of their members and protesters believe in their cause almost completely.

Of course there’s chance that they’re just jobless and bored but I don’t think it’s also that far fetched that this many people care about this issue and want to protest in this way to force government to act

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I like the videos when there protesting with few beers on the go, just a cheap day out for some students with nothibg better to do. Also what are they actually protesting against?

They want the government to commit to: Stopping further oil exploration, and issuing licenses for any new drilling.

To be fair, it would make sense! Unfortunately governments make loads of money from oil, several Tory MPs have held high level positions in Oil Companies, and hold huge investment portfolio in oil. On top of that there are many declared donations from Oil Companies to the Tory Party's funds... so there may be a slight "conflict of interest" here.

I'm sure there are also politicians from other parties who also have connections to oil firms too... but obviously they're not the ones in power.

Cal

"

Their aims make perfect sense and I completely agree that the government should stop all new licensing of oil. They signed new contracts for new exploration LAST YEAR. so they aren’t taking the issue seriously AT ALL

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By *UGGYBEAR2015Man
over a year ago

BRIDPORT


"

dont you think they should leed by example then arriving at these protests on a bus wearing polyester doesnt strike me as stoping oil right down to the plastic signs some were carying last week in london and even the marker pen that they write there message with, the only way they should be able to carry on this stupid campaign is to not use oil them selves before telling others to stop and there is no point blaming the goverment untill they have sorted there own lifestyle out to meet the stop oil that they so desperately seem to care about.

Do you realise that the guys who invented the Bicycle rode a horse, the men who created the first light bulbs worked by lamp light. Charles Babbage's plans for a digital computer were drawn by hand, and Thomas Crapper used to shit in a bucket...

Every step of progress is created within using the tools what we already had.

Cal"

Yes Cal but they weren’t promoting your use of a horse , gas lamp , pen and paper or shitting in a bucket as wrong and something you should not be doing.

The examples you give are all additional too not instead of and maybe ( I don’t know cos I wasn’t there) they didn’t come across as holding themselves to be morally superior.

We all know as individuals that there must be a change in the way we use the earths resources. Change is happening and the speed will increase as the change stimulates more momentum.

People already do things as second nature that a decade or so ago were not on the agenda.

The people I have time for are those who are exploring and developing the alternatives that we need to fill the hole and educating us on how we can do our bit on a daily basis, not someone waving a banner and shouting ‘just stop oil’.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I like the videos when there protesting with few beers on the go, just a cheap day out for some students with nothibg better to do. Also what are they actually protesting against?

Oil. They want to stop oil.

dont you think they should leed by example then arriving at these protests on a bus wearing polyester doesnt strike me as stoping oil right down to the plastic signs some were carying last week in london and even the marker pen that they write there message with, the only way they should be able to carry on this stupid campaign is to not use oil them selves before telling others to stop and there is no point blaming the goverment untill they have sorted there own lifestyle out to meet the stop oil that they so desperately seem to care about."

It has nothing to do with using oil that has already been extracted. They’re not asking to stop using all oil products immediately

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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago

Derry

itt. a lot of people that don't understand and never will.

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By *un-n-frolicsMan
over a year ago

London


"How long till one of these muppets is killed?

They care about the cause. Don’t think that bothers them.

Do they really though??

Or is it a case well it's either I protest or I get a job...

I think a lot of people protest for the sake of protesting. Not for the actual cause.

I think a lot of their members and protesters believe in their cause almost completely.

Of course there’s chance that they’re just jobless and bored but I don’t think it’s also that far fetched that this many people care about this issue and want to protest in this way to force government to act"

Exactly. Some people may even have mixed motives. But I know that people do, and should, care about this cause.

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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago

Derry


"How long till one of these muppets is killed?

They care about the cause. Don’t think that bothers them.

Do they really though??

Or is it a case well it's either I protest or I get a job...

I think a lot of people protest for the sake of protesting. Not for the actual cause.

I think a lot of their members and protesters believe in their cause almost completely.

Of course there’s chance that they’re just jobless and bored but I don’t think it’s also that far fetched that this many people care about this issue and want to protest in this way to force government to act

Exactly. Some people may even have mixed motives. But I know that people do, and should, care about this cause. "

Covid showed us that until people were directly being affected, it wasn't real. It was happening elsewhere and it wasn't going to effect me.

Global warming and climate change are bit nebulous and doesn't really sound threatening. The reality of it is really ugly and scary. Maybe it is too late but I do know that when the shit really hits the fan, all the people that don't care now will be the ones screaming at politicians and scientists to do something about it.

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe


"

dont you think they should leed by example then arriving at these protests on a bus wearing polyester doesnt strike me as stoping oil right down to the plastic signs some were carying last week in london and even the marker pen that they write there message with, the only way they should be able to carry on this stupid campaign is to not use oil them selves before telling others to stop and there is no point blaming the goverment untill they have sorted there own lifestyle out to meet the stop oil that they so desperately seem to care about.

Do you realise that the guys who invented the Bicycle rode a horse, the men who created the first light bulbs worked by lamp light. Charles Babbage's plans for a digital computer were drawn by hand, and Thomas Crapper used to shit in a bucket...

Every step of progress is created within using the tools what we already had.

Cal

Yes Cal but they weren’t promoting your use of a horse , gas lamp , pen and paper or shitting in a bucket as wrong and something you should not be doing.

The examples you give are all additional too not instead of and maybe ( I don’t know cos I wasn’t there) they didn’t come across as holding themselves to be morally superior.

We all know as individuals that there must be a change in the way we use the earths resources. Change is happening and the speed will increase as the change stimulates more momentum.

People already do things as second nature that a decade or so ago were not on the agenda.

The people I have time for are those who are exploring and developing the alternatives that we need to fill the hole and educating us on how we can do our bit on a daily basis, not someone waving a banner and shouting ‘just stop oil’. "

But... the Just Stop Oil people are not telling the public to not drive their cars or wear polyester, they're asking the government to commit to not allowing "new oil" projects.

I'm not a fan of "Just Stop Oil" as a group. I think that their protests at sporting events and concerts are missing the mark & turn the public against them. I do however agree with their aims.

Reducing the use of oil that's already been processed is less important than the long term aim of phasing out the use of oil as the default raw material for everything.

Cal

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By *ohndom2023Man
over a year ago

Hastings/Greenwich


"Unless I knew each one of them in person I couldn't comment on their behaviour.

I know someone who has so much hatred for the establishment that he'll protest anything, and stir others up, even if he has limited knowledge of the cause.

He'll walk the length of the country to be present at something.

"

I kind of know how he feels and without protesters highlighting issues even when they are inconvenient governments quietly introduce undemocratic legislation.

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By *penbicoupleCouple
over a year ago

Northampton


"I like the videos when there protesting with few beers on the go, just a cheap day out for some students with nothibg better to do. Also what are they actually protesting against? "

Do you actually want to know the answer to your question?

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By *erry bull1Man
over a year ago

doncaster

Everything they use in life revolves around oil so basically they shouldn’t be using transport eating food or wearing clothing , no housing for them or any other amenities

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

dont you think they should leed by example then arriving at these protests on a bus wearing polyester doesnt strike me as stoping oil right down to the plastic signs some were carying last week in london and even the marker pen that they write there message with, the only way they should be able to carry on this stupid campaign is to not use oil them selves before telling others to stop and there is no point blaming the goverment untill they have sorted there own lifestyle out to meet the stop oil that they so desperately seem to care about.

Do you realise that the guys who invented the Bicycle rode a horse, the men who created the first light bulbs worked by lamp light. Charles Babbage's plans for a digital computer were drawn by hand, and Thomas Crapper used to shit in a bucket...

Every step of progress is created within using the tools what we already had.

Cal

Yes Cal but they weren’t promoting your use of a horse , gas lamp , pen and paper or shitting in a bucket as wrong and something you should not be doing.

The examples you give are all additional too not instead of and maybe ( I don’t know cos I wasn’t there) they didn’t come across as holding themselves to be morally superior.

We all know as individuals that there must be a change in the way we use the earths resources. Change is happening and the speed will increase as the change stimulates more momentum.

People already do things as second nature that a decade or so ago were not on the agenda.

The people I have time for are those who are exploring and developing the alternatives that we need to fill the hole and educating us on how we can do our bit on a daily basis, not someone waving a banner and shouting ‘just stop oil’.

But... the Just Stop Oil people are not telling the public to not drive their cars or wear polyester, they're asking the government to commit to not allowing "new oil" projects.

I'm not a fan of "Just Stop Oil" as a group. I think that their protests at sporting events and concerts are missing the mark & turn the public against them. I do however agree with their aims.

Reducing the use of oil that's already been processed is less important than the long term aim of phasing out the use of oil as the default raw material for everything.

Cal"

so there campaign should say "just stop oil that wont effect our day to day comfort"

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By *isaB45Woman
over a year ago

Fabville


"Everything they use in life revolves around oil so basically they shouldn’t be using transport eating food or wearing clothing , no housing for them or any other amenities "

They also don't want computers, phones, any kind of healthcare.. the list is endless.

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By *ex HolesMan
over a year ago

Up North

Keep the oil. How else am I going to see the ladies oil their tits on the beach during my summer holiday

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By *lik and PaulCouple
over a year ago

cahoots


"

dont you think they should leed by example then arriving at these protests on a bus wearing polyester doesnt strike me as stoping oil right down to the plastic signs some were carying last week in london and even the marker pen that they write there message with, the only way they should be able to carry on this stupid campaign is to not use oil them selves before telling others to stop and there is no point blaming the goverment untill they have sorted there own lifestyle out to meet the stop oil that they so desperately seem to care about.

Do you realise that the guys who invented the Bicycle rode a horse, the men who created the first light bulbs worked by lamp light. Charles Babbage's plans for a digital computer were drawn by hand, and Thomas Crapper used to shit in a bucket...

Every step of progress is created within using the tools what we already had.

Cal

Yes Cal but they weren’t promoting your use of a horse , gas lamp , pen and paper or shitting in a bucket as wrong and something you should not be doing.

The examples you give are all additional too not instead of and maybe ( I don’t know cos I wasn’t there) they didn’t come across as holding themselves to be morally superior.

We all know as individuals that there must be a change in the way we use the earths resources. Change is happening and the speed will increase as the change stimulates more momentum.

People already do things as second nature that a decade or so ago were not on the agenda.

The people I have time for are those who are exploring and developing the alternatives that we need to fill the hole and educating us on how we can do our bit on a daily basis, not someone waving a banner and shouting ‘just stop oil’.

But... the Just Stop Oil people are not telling the public to not drive their cars or wear polyester, they're asking the government to commit to not allowing "new oil" projects.

I'm not a fan of "Just Stop Oil" as a group. I think that their protests at sporting events and concerts are missing the mark & turn the public against them. I do however agree with their aims.

Reducing the use of oil that's already been processed is less important than the long term aim of phasing out the use of oil as the default raw material for everything.

Cal so there campaign should say "just stop oil that wont effect our day to day comfort" "

Pretty much this

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By *isaB45Woman
over a year ago

Fabville


"Keep the oil. How else am I going to see the ladies oil their tits on the beach during my summer holiday "

This is a very valid point

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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago

Derry


"Everything they use in life revolves around oil so basically they shouldn’t be using transport eating food or wearing clothing , no housing for them or any other amenities

They also don't want computers, phones, any kind of healthcare.. the list is endless. "

And that is a straw man response. It's practically text book by this stage. 'we need to stop using all plastics to save the planet from climate change"

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By *2000ManMan
over a year ago

Worthing

Stop Oil and their protests cause more traffic pollution. Nice one...not.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Everything they use in life revolves around oil so basically they shouldn’t be using transport eating food or wearing clothing , no housing for them or any other amenities

They also don't want computers, phones, any kind of healthcare.. the list is endless.

And that is a straw man response. It's practically text book by this stage. 'we need to stop using all plastics to save the planet from climate change""

gas consumption is worse and thats how most people heat there houses and planes contribute huge amounts but unfortunately how ever much the goverment stop implementing oil the world will carry on using it regardless population cull is litterally the only way they will bring climate change down.

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By *ohndom2023Man
over a year ago

Hastings/Greenwich


"Keep the oil. How else am I going to see the ladies oil their tits on the beach during my summer holiday

This is a very valid point "

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sunscreen-Radical-Scavenger-Oxidant-Britening/dp/B07PKH2NYD/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?keywords=oil+free+sun+cream&qid=1689418751&sr=8-3

Totally oil free now where would you like me to apply it?

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By *ldgeezermeMan
over a year ago

Throckley

Stop all new north sea licenses and just import it instead

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By *lik and PaulCouple
over a year ago

cahoots


"Stop all new north sea licenses and just import it instead"

Its why we have to pay whatever the supplier demands as we are a net importer I believe and there will always be plenty to import as just stop oil don't tend to demonstrate in opec counties, Russia, China etc.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"I like the videos when there protesting with few beers on the go, just a cheap day out for some students with nothibg better to do. Also what are they actually protesting against?

They want the government to commit to: Stopping further oil exploration, and issuing licenses for any new drilling.

To be fair, it would make sense! Unfortunately governments make loads of money from oil, several Tory MPs have held high level positions in Oil Companies, and hold huge investment portfolio in oil. On top of that there are many declared donations from Oil Companies to the Tory Party's funds... so there may be a slight "conflict of interest" here.

I'm sure there are also politicians from other parties who also have connections to oil firms too... but obviously they're not the ones in power.

Cal

"

This… I don’t agree with the principle.. it’s the way they go about doing it

I think with messages like this having the general support of the public helps the message… the way they go about it alienates them!

I think extinction rebellion kinda learnt that lesson the hard way after their people got a bit of a shoeing at Canning Town tube station for stopping underground trains

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By *d4fun73Man
over a year ago

Shipley


"How long till one of these muppets is killed?"

You think they're Muppets. Well remember that if it wasn't for people like them you wouldn't even have the vote, sick pay and load's of other benefits!.

I wonder what would be made of the suffragettes in nowadays media.

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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago

East London


"Unless I knew each one of them in person I couldn't comment on their behaviour.

I know someone who has so much hatred for the establishment that he'll protest anything, and stir others up, even if he has limited knowledge of the cause.

He'll walk the length of the country to be present at something.

I kind of know how he feels and without protesters highlighting issues even when they are inconvenient governments quietly introduce undemocratic legislation."

I doubt it. He couldn't care less about oil, disabled people, fair pay or whatever. He hates the Government, the Police, people who have money and power.

He likes demonstrations.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"How long till one of these muppets is killed?

You think they're Muppets. Well remember that if it wasn't for people like them you wouldn't even have the vote, sick pay and load's of other benefits!.

I wonder what would be made of the suffragettes in nowadays media."

Terrorists..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was a be a bit of an "Anna with a Banner" in my yoof. I protested against animal testing and fox hunting. Cosmetic testing no longer happens and fox hunting is now illegal (supposedly)

Fight the good fight.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How long till one of these muppets is killed?

They care about the cause. Don’t think that bothers them.

Do they really though??

Or is it a case well it's either I protest or I get a job...

I think a lot of people protest for the sake of protesting. Not for the actual cause."

Yes and the rest go on forums or social media and complain about things and do nothing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

JSO possibly do more to dissuade than persuade. Most people would agree with the principles but this group turn so many people against them.

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By *iggers51Man
over a year ago

tamworth

And like someone said, they all get to protests in vehicles, hows that right, should be on push bikes, or even better on foooooooot

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By *lik and PaulCouple
over a year ago

cahoots


"And like someone said, they all get to protests in vehicles, hows that right, should be on push bikes, or even better on foooooooot"

Push bikes need oil too

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By *ent in BlackMan
over a year ago

Silsden

They’d get more respect if they stopped smashing stuff up.

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By *un-n-frolicsMan
over a year ago

London


"And like someone said, they all get to protests in vehicles, hows that right, should be on push bikes, or even better on foooooooot

Push bikes need oil too"

So because bicycles need some oil, we should drive everywhere and forget about trying to save the environment? We should walk everywhere (barefoot)? Not sure what your point is.

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over a year ago


"And like someone said, they all get to protests in vehicles, hows that right, should be on push bikes, or even better on foooooooot

Push bikes need oil too

So because bicycles need some oil, we should drive everywhere and forget about trying to save the environment? We should walk everywhere (barefoot)? Not sure what your point is. "

only thing to do is walk really but obviously not in rubber soled shoes and definitely not with a polyester coat on, all these protesters need to leed by exmple no exceptions other wise there just hypocritical and there protest a waste of time, if the protesters stop been so selfish using oil in there own lives then i will start to listen untill then its just a load of crazy people been anoying

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By *un-n-frolicsMan
over a year ago

London


"And like someone said, they all get to protests in vehicles, hows that right, should be on push bikes, or even better on foooooooot

Push bikes need oil too

So because bicycles need some oil, we should drive everywhere and forget about trying to save the environment? We should walk everywhere (barefoot)? Not sure what your point is. only thing to do is walk really but obviously not in rubber soled shoes and definitely not with a polyester coat on, all these protesters need to leed by exmple no exceptions other wise there just hypocritical and there protest a waste of time, if the protesters stop been so selfish using oil in there own lives then i will start to listen untill then its just a load of crazy people been anoying"

Is rubber made from oil now?

And are you saying that only people who rely on no oil whatsoever should be concerned about the amount of oil we use?

Are you sure you’re not finding excuses for continuing not to care?

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By *7mutleyTV/TS
over a year ago

cambridge


"Perhaps the gov should let them see what a world without oil is like.

Stop selling diesel/petrol for 1 month. No deliveries so no food, no getting to work etc etc.

They prob all go into the petrol amd diesel cars and drive home after their protest."

This

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe


"

dont you think they should leed by example then arriving at these protests on a bus wearing polyester doesnt strike me as stoping oil right down to the plastic signs some were carying last week in london and even the marker pen that they write there message with, the only way they should be able to carry on this stupid campaign is to not use oil them selves before telling others to stop and there is no point blaming the goverment untill they have sorted there own lifestyle out to meet the stop oil that they so desperately seem to care about.

Do you realise that the guys who invented the Bicycle rode a horse, the men who created the first light bulbs worked by lamp light. Charles Babbage's plans for a digital computer were drawn by hand, and Thomas Crapper used to shit in a bucket...

Every step of progress is created within using the tools what we already had.

Cal

Yes Cal but they weren’t promoting your use of a horse , gas lamp , pen and paper or shitting in a bucket as wrong and something you should not be doing.

The examples you give are all additional too not instead of and maybe ( I don’t know cos I wasn’t there) they didn’t come across as holding themselves to be morally superior.

We all know as individuals that there must be a change in the way we use the earths resources. Change is happening and the speed will increase as the change stimulates more momentum.

People already do things as second nature that a decade or so ago were not on the agenda.

The people I have time for are those who are exploring and developing the alternatives that we need to fill the hole and educating us on how we can do our bit on a daily basis, not someone waving a banner and shouting ‘just stop oil’.

But... the Just Stop Oil people are not telling the public to not drive their cars or wear polyester, they're asking the government to commit to not allowing "new oil" projects.

I'm not a fan of "Just Stop Oil" as a group. I think that their protests at sporting events and concerts are missing the mark & turn the public against them. I do however agree with their aims.

Reducing the use of oil that's already been processed is less important than the long term aim of phasing out the use of oil as the default raw material for everything.

Cal

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so there campaign should say "just stop oil that wont effect our day to day comfort" "

No their campaign literally is "Just Stop searching for NEW Oil, and invest in alternatives instead"

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan
over a year ago

Kent

Never realised there were so many Sun readers on here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"And like someone said, they all get to protests in vehicles, hows that right, should be on push bikes, or even better on foooooooot

Push bikes need oil too

So because bicycles need some oil, we should drive everywhere and forget about trying to save the environment? We should walk everywhere (barefoot)? Not sure what your point is. only thing to do is walk really but obviously not in rubber soled shoes and definitely not with a polyester coat on, all these protesters need to leed by exmple no exceptions other wise there just hypocritical and there protest a waste of time, if the protesters stop been so selfish using oil in there own lives then i will start to listen untill then its just a load of crazy people been anoying

Is rubber made from oil now?

And are you saying that only people who rely on no oil whatsoever should be concerned about the amount of oil we use?

Are you sure you’re not finding excuses for continuing not to care?"

Approximately 70% of all rubber used today is synthetic, the principal raw material to create it is crude oil.

Bess x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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dont you think they should leed by example then arriving at these protests on a bus wearing polyester doesnt strike me as stoping oil right down to the plastic signs some were carying last week in london and even the marker pen that they write there message with, the only way they should be able to carry on this stupid campaign is to not use oil them selves before telling others to stop and there is no point blaming the goverment untill they have sorted there own lifestyle out to meet the stop oil that they so desperately seem to care about.

Do you realise that the guys who invented the Bicycle rode a horse, the men who created the first light bulbs worked by lamp light. Charles Babbage's plans for a digital computer were drawn by hand, and Thomas Crapper used to shit in a bucket...

Every step of progress is created within using the tools what we already had.

Cal

Yes Cal but they weren’t promoting your use of a horse , gas lamp , pen and paper or shitting in a bucket as wrong and something you should not be doing.

The examples you give are all additional too not instead of and maybe ( I don’t know cos I wasn’t there) they didn’t come across as holding themselves to be morally superior.

We all know as individuals that there must be a change in the way we use the earths resources. Change is happening and the speed will increase as the change stimulates more momentum.

People already do things as second nature that a decade or so ago were not on the agenda.

The people I have time for are those who are exploring and developing the alternatives that we need to fill the hole and educating us on how we can do our bit on a daily basis, not someone waving a banner and shouting ‘just stop oil’.

But... the Just Stop Oil people are not telling the public to not drive their cars or wear polyester, they're asking the government to commit to not allowing "new oil" projects.

I'm not a fan of "Just Stop Oil" as a group. I think that their protests at sporting events and concerts are missing the mark & turn the public against them. I do however agree with their aims.

Reducing the use of oil that's already been processed is less important than the long term aim of phasing out the use of oil as the default raw material for everything.

Cal

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so there campaign should say "just stop oil that wont effect our day to day comfort"

No their campaign literally is "Just Stop searching for NEW Oil, and invest in alternatives instead""

Your banging your head against a wall on here. Best to save your energy for better things.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

dont you think they should leed by example then arriving at these protests on a bus wearing polyester doesnt strike me as stoping oil right down to the plastic signs some were carying last week in london and even the marker pen that they write there message with, the only way they should be able to carry on this stupid campaign is to not use oil them selves before telling others to stop and there is no point blaming the goverment untill they have sorted there own lifestyle out to meet the stop oil that they so desperately seem to care about.

Do you realise that the guys who invented the Bicycle rode a horse, the men who created the first light bulbs worked by lamp light. Charles Babbage's plans for a digital computer were drawn by hand, and Thomas Crapper used to shit in a bucket...

Every step of progress is created within using the tools what we already had.

Cal

Yes Cal but they weren’t promoting your use of a horse , gas lamp , pen and paper or shitting in a bucket as wrong and something you should not be doing.

The examples you give are all additional too not instead of and maybe ( I don’t know cos I wasn’t there) they didn’t come across as holding themselves to be morally superior.

We all know as individuals that there must be a change in the way we use the earths resources. Change is happening and the speed will increase as the change stimulates more momentum.

People already do things as second nature that a decade or so ago were not on the agenda.

The people I have time for are those who are exploring and developing the alternatives that we need to fill the hole and educating us on how we can do our bit on a daily basis, not someone waving a banner and shouting ‘just stop oil’.

But... the Just Stop Oil people are not telling the public to not drive their cars or wear polyester, they're asking the government to commit to not allowing "new oil" projects.

I'm not a fan of "Just Stop Oil" as a group. I think that their protests at sporting events and concerts are missing the mark & turn the public against them. I do however agree with their aims.

Reducing the use of oil that's already been processed is less important than the long term aim of phasing out the use of oil as the default raw material for everything.

Cal

--------

so there campaign should say "just stop oil that wont effect our day to day comfort"

No their campaign literally is "Just Stop searching for NEW Oil, and invest in alternatives instead""

No it isnt that may be there goal but there slogun is "just stop oil"

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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago

Derry


"Never realised there were so many Sun readers on here "

Disappointed?

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe


"

dont you think they should leed by example then arriving at these protests on a bus wearing polyester doesnt strike me as stoping oil right down to the plastic signs some were carying last week in london and even the marker pen that they write there message with, the only way they should be able to carry on this stupid campaign is to not use oil them selves before telling others to stop and there is no point blaming the goverment untill they have sorted there own lifestyle out to meet the stop oil that they so desperately seem to care about.

Do you realise that the guys who invented the Bicycle rode a horse, the men who created the first light bulbs worked by lamp light. Charles Babbage's plans for a digital computer were drawn by hand, and Thomas Crapper used to shit in a bucket...

Every step of progress is created within using the tools what we already had.

Cal

Yes Cal but they weren’t promoting your use of a horse , gas lamp , pen and paper or shitting in a bucket as wrong and something you should not be doing.

The examples you give are all additional too not instead of and maybe ( I don’t know cos I wasn’t there) they didn’t come across as holding themselves to be morally superior.

We all know as individuals that there must be a change in the way we use the earths resources. Change is happening and the speed will increase as the change stimulates more momentum.

People already do things as second nature that a decade or so ago were not on the agenda.

The people I have time for are those who are exploring and developing the alternatives that we need to fill the hole and educating us on how we can do our bit on a daily basis, not someone waving a banner and shouting ‘just stop oil’.

But... the Just Stop Oil people are not telling the public to not drive their cars or wear polyester, they're asking the government to commit to not allowing "new oil" projects.

I'm not a fan of "Just Stop Oil" as a group. I think that their protests at sporting events and concerts are missing the mark & turn the public against them. I do however agree with their aims.

Reducing the use of oil that's already been processed is less important than the long term aim of phasing out the use of oil as the default raw material for everything.

Cal

--------

so there campaign should say "just stop oil that wont effect our day to day comfort"

No their campaign literally is "Just Stop searching for NEW Oil, and invest in alternatives instead"

No it isnt that may be there goal but there slogun is "just stop oil"

"

Slogan and campaign are not the same thing...

The Last Conservative Party Slogan was "Get Brexit Done. Unleash Britain's Potential. Britain Deserves Better", whilst their campaign was all about "make as much personal wealth as possible"

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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago

Derry


"

dont you think they should leed by example then arriving at these protests on a bus wearing polyester doesnt strike me as stoping oil right down to the plastic signs some were carying last week in london and even the marker pen that they write there message with, the only way they should be able to carry on this stupid campaign is to not use oil them selves before telling others to stop and there is no point blaming the goverment untill they have sorted there own lifestyle out to meet the stop oil that they so desperately seem to care about.

Do you realise that the guys who invented the Bicycle rode a horse, the men who created the first light bulbs worked by lamp light. Charles Babbage's plans for a digital computer were drawn by hand, and Thomas Crapper used to shit in a bucket...

Every step of progress is created within using the tools what we already had.

Cal

Yes Cal but they weren’t promoting your use of a horse , gas lamp , pen and paper or shitting in a bucket as wrong and something you should not be doing.

The examples you give are all additional too not instead of and maybe ( I don’t know cos I wasn’t there) they didn’t come across as holding themselves to be morally superior.

We all know as individuals that there must be a change in the way we use the earths resources. Change is happening and the speed will increase as the change stimulates more momentum.

People already do things as second nature that a decade or so ago were not on the agenda.

The people I have time for are those who are exploring and developing the alternatives that we need to fill the hole and educating us on how we can do our bit on a daily basis, not someone waving a banner and shouting ‘just stop oil’.

But... the Just Stop Oil people are not telling the public to not drive their cars or wear polyester, they're asking the government to commit to not allowing "new oil" projects.

I'm not a fan of "Just Stop Oil" as a group. I think that their protests at sporting events and concerts are missing the mark & turn the public against them. I do however agree with their aims.

Reducing the use of oil that's already been processed is less important than the long term aim of phasing out the use of oil as the default raw material for everything.

Cal

--------

so there campaign should say "just stop oil that wont effect our day to day comfort"

No their campaign literally is "Just Stop searching for NEW Oil, and invest in alternatives instead"

No it isnt that may be there goal but there slogun is "just stop oil"

Slogan and campaign are not the same thing...

The Last Conservative Party Slogan was "Get Brexit Done. Unleash Britain's Potential. Britain Deserves Better", whilst their campaign was all about "make as much personal wealth as possible""

Isn't it so clear by now that some are determined to attack the messenger, not the message.

I think in rejecting the message you're essentially saying to your kids and theirs, fuck you I don't care about you.

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