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"Short version without pondering It essentially comes down to chances for men are limited enough, you start throwing out likes, dislikes, preferences etc on such a definitive scale and your already very limited options get narrowed down even more. For some men, it's a case of despite saying we don't care and often have a shameless attitude, redicule from stating what some men like is extremely anxiety inducing. Especially when despite being the majority on here, we are in comparison the lower class. " I will add. Not all men! | |||
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"I know I'm not your target audience but I think more men should. There seems to be this weird thought that by saying what you actually want or don't want that it will put people off. For me,it would actually have the opposite effect. I'm not talking about those lists or things you want to do to us. Tell us what we can do for you!! " Oh anyone can reply to this, it's idle Monday musings! Yes... I've noticed that. In Swinger's chat men are more likely to openly discuss sex but... you can tell it's often one handed typing time. | |||
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"I'm not falling for this." Falling for what Esty? I have no idea what you're talking about. * *It's the first time I've used one of those emotes on you. Guess it should be the first time you reply sans humour. | |||
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"I had anticipated guys being more open about talking about sex and sexuality on here (not specifically orientation I might add). Nope. I don’t understand the reticence, but maybe it is all just not wanting to put women off. " 100% this. Men care more about their brand on here than anything. | |||
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"I'm not falling for this. Falling for what Esty? I have no idea what you're talking about. * *It's the first time I've used one of those emotes on you. Guess it should be the first time you reply sans humour. " You want me to admit that I get erections from time to time. Well let me tell you quite firmly that I won't stand for it. | |||
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"I had anticipated guys being more open about talking about sex and sexuality on here (not specifically orientation I might add). Nope. I don’t understand the reticence, but maybe it is all just not wanting to put women off. 100% this. Men care more about their brand on here than anything. " I find this thinking utterly alien. I will clearly put off a lot of guys on here (multiple reasons obvs) but I wouldn’t for one moment think I need to monitor how I am or what I say. But then I don’t have this ‘brand’ thinking. | |||
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"Dear Meli I’d love to watch you take a shit." Loos women. | |||
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"Oh perfect. I can tell you, most men (not all men) but I will generalise, will go with humour on here. Wry few times I’ve I read a REAL sexual post from men on a regular basis, because we would be labelled perverts in the real world. Now try that as we get older. In our 40s. 50s etc. related to me - I’m a sexy guy, *true story. I enjoy sex, I like the person I’m with to feel as sexy as they make me feel. I like the intimacy , the foreplay, and getting in someone’s mind…. I once even became confident in talking about being bi-curious etc. But that was when my confidence was very high. Now not so much. And you know what doesn't help a guys confidence? Being singled out as bad guys. Single men on fab get such a bad time on here, esp the forums. Some posts can make you feel like a piece of shit. But going back to your question, I’d love to talk more sexually, I just assume it would be ignored. " That’s a very articulate and authentic post. I actually understand more from this | |||
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"Short version without pondering It essentially comes down to chances for men are limited enough, you start throwing out likes, dislikes, preferences etc on such a definitive scale and your already very limited options get narrowed down even more. For some men, it's a case of despite saying we don't care and often have a shameless attitude, redicule from stating what some men like is extremely anxiety inducing. Especially when despite being the majority on here, we are in comparison the lower class. " I think that's a shame really. Men aren't a lower class. Sure, there are more of you but that doesn't relegate you to a lower class. I can understand, to a certain extent, about not wanting to limit an already narrow option. Yet wouldn't it be better to find those you who can click and connect with? The real you, not the forum acceptable version of yourself. | |||
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"I like licking tea bags Meli, does that make me less desirable to admit. Of course not and of course it will do.... I have no problem in admitting my predilections in public. As those that find me desirable will find me desirable, those that don't won't. The latter being foolish of course and missing out, as my tongues not just for licking tea bags of course " Predilection is such a delicious word! I adore it. That aside, I like your viewpoint on it. You'll find your teabag lovers, probably more readily if you state you like teabags. Imagine getting down to things and then discovering they'd rather chew on coffee beans and not lick a teabag? Disaster. | |||
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"Dear Meli I’d love to watch you take a shit. Loos women." Reckon I’ve made her flush. | |||
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"Dear Meli I’d love to watch you take a shit. Loos women. Reckon I’ve made her flush." It'll be when you squirted your liquid around her rim. | |||
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"Dear Meli I’d love to watch you take a shit. Loos women. Reckon I’ve made her flush. It'll be when you squirted your liquid around her rim." Hope I haven’t given her cisternitus. | |||
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"I had anticipated guys being more open about talking about sex and sexuality on here (not specifically orientation I might add). Nope. I don’t understand the reticence, but maybe it is all just not wanting to put women off. 100% this. Men care more about their brand on here than anything. " Which is wonderful irony. Because open, honest communication about sex, sexuallity and desires (without it being 'i like this thing but no actual conversation around it) is such a turn on.... It also often shows those who can negotiate, set expectations and boundaries... | |||
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"Dear Meli I’d love to watch you take a shit. Loos women. Reckon I’ve made her flush. It'll be when you squirted your liquid around her rim. Hope I haven’t given her cisternitus." See this, Meli? Menfolk. | |||
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"Women are fawned over and all that jazz, so market forces dictate a response. Lads, meh, not so much, it just falls into the ether. Fighting for supremacy, responses, attention and all that. It can be disheartening when you don't get the response you hoped for. I mean, I imagine. Obviously I always get attention. " I've had to resist the urge to ignore your comment and play nice. That? That's growth. Yes, it can be disheartening. I think men are far more likely to not get a response and over time it could possibly result in posting less authentically in order to fit a desired misconception and get a response. Some sort of sign they're noticed. | |||
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"Women are fawned over and all that jazz, so market forces dictate a response. Lads, meh, not so much, it just falls into the ether. Fighting for supremacy, responses, attention and all that. It can be disheartening when you don't get the response you hoped for. I mean, I imagine. Obviously I always get attention. I've had to resist the urge to ignore your comment and play nice. That? That's growth. Yes, it can be disheartening. I think men are far more likely to not get a response and over time it could possibly result in posting less authentically in order to fit a desired misconception and get a response. Some sort of sign they're noticed. " Unrelated Meli but let me know if you ever want a tribute | |||
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"I'm not falling for this. Falling for what Esty? I have no idea what you're talking about. * *It's the first time I've used one of those emotes on you. Guess it should be the first time you reply sans humour. You want me to admit that I get erections from time to time. Well let me tell you quite firmly that I won't stand for it." You don't have to stand for it. In fact, it's really rather simple for you to sit for it. Or lay down for it. | |||
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"I think women are just generally more accepted and treated more kindly , by men at least. We’re like ‘awwwww it’s a woman’ be nice to it etc " They are so sweet and innocent. Sugar and spice and all things nice. | |||
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"Wanking dead Honestly, I don't really think about whether people will judge me for my sexuality. Seems more beneficial to be open about it to me. Seems somewhat relevant. I'll probably say this 1000 times. If someone is judging me and they haven't got to know me then it's on them. You believe me to be a dirty old man go for it. Whatever floats your boat." I'm all about the snazzy taglines. Wanking dead is perhaps rather dickish. I think you're right with regards to the judgement thing - well everything you've posted but in particular that. Someone else's judgement when they haven't made the effort to know you is on them. | |||
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"Men care more about their brand on here than anything. " Yeah, but my personal brand includes talking quite enthusiastically about sex. What I want, what I like, what I’ve done in the past … (I mean, the very idea of a deliberately-curated personal brand™ is mortifying, but I’m self-aware enough to know who I am and which sides of myself I’m actively putting out into the digital ether.) | |||
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"I'm super comfortable and open. Never used to be that way but here we are." If that's what you're happy doing - that's great. I don't think you need to be open to be comfortable with yourself. I do think that feeling like you can't be open isn't good. | |||
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"Women are fawned over and all that jazz, so market forces dictate a response. Lads, meh, not so much, it just falls into the ether. Fighting for supremacy, responses, attention and all that. It can be disheartening when you don't get the response you hoped for. I mean, I imagine. Obviously I always get attention. I've had to resist the urge to ignore your comment and play nice. That? That's growth. Yes, it can be disheartening. I think men are far more likely to not get a response and over time it could possibly result in posting less authentically in order to fit a desired misconception and get a response. Some sort of sign they're noticed. " See. I fucking knew you were ignoring me on purpose. So predictable. So you. But yeah, people can work tirelessly to hone their craft and image, present the absolute best possible version of themselves to attract as much as possible. Or be a massive gob shite. Either or really. | |||
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"Oh perfect. I can tell you, most men (not all men) but I will generalise, will go with humour on here. Wry few times I’ve I read a REAL sexual post from men on a regular basis, because we would be labelled perverts in the real world. Now try that as we get older. In our 40s. 50s etc. related to me - I’m a sexy guy, *true story. I enjoy sex, I like the person I’m with to feel as sexy as they make me feel. I like the intimacy , the foreplay, and getting in someone’s mind…. I once even became confident in talking about being bi-curious etc. But that was when my confidence was very high. Now not so much. And you know what doesn't help a guys confidence? Being singled out as bad guys. Single men on fab get such a bad time on here, esp the forums. Some posts can make you feel like a piece of shit. But going back to your question, I’d love to talk more sexually, I just assume it would be ignored. " | |||
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"But yeah, people can work tirelessly to hone their craft and image, present the absolute best possible version of themselves to attract as much as possible. Or be a massive gob shite. Either or really. " Or sometimes being a massive gobshite *is* their best version of themselves. So it’s both, not either/or. | |||
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"A conversation I had earlier (okay, a few minutes ago) made me think about this topic. When it comes to posting on the fora about sex - women are more accepted for doing so, more likely to do so. Men don't - not to the same extent, not without the worry of being/ seen as a dirty old man, not getting responses etc. So men. How comfortable are you with your sexuality? With discussing sex, what you enjoy openly... Do you ever shy away from sex threads because you don't want to be seen as a wanking dead? Or lessen your chances because you say I really like/dislike this. " Very confident in my sexuality, straight but have no issues at all playing with couples getting naked in groups. Brushing cocks while aiming at the same hole etc. I get no interest here anyway lol so nothing to loose I guess. As for actually talking about sex I kinda do I. Stories and fantasies, nothing there I wouldn't do or haven't done in the past. | |||
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"I like to think that I’m very candid on here as regards talking frankly about sex and sexual practices. I may pacify it a tad with humour sometimes but I’m really quite shameless essentially " You always post in a way however that just opens a harmless discussion. Some men unfortunately post about a topic as a way of seeming to fish for interested participants or try to initiate private sexual conversations off the back of and I think that's what puts people off engaging. I love a good group discussion about sex regardless of who initiates it but I have to feel I'm not opening myself up to uncomfortable experiences by doing so. | |||
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"I’m not old. So it helps with not being seen as a dirty old man. But I love talking about the sex. I love talking about sex and sexuality and I have a fluid approach to my encounters on the forums. I’m a slut. I want it all. I’m down for whatever. But I think the key is to talk about other things confidently and intelligently so that nobody thinks you’re sat there wanking 24/7! " Yes; I think so. And not looking like you're deliberately looking for wank material. I've always enjoyed your posts/threads on topics relating to it - it's approachable and enjoyable. | |||
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"Not a massive forum user but feel completely comfortable being open and honest. If it puts people off oh well means we're not right for each other in the first place. " Yeah. A good bit of fuck it is always a winner. I think that's true with any forum post. If someone thinks you're a twonk? Fuck it. | |||
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"But yeah, people can work tirelessly to hone their craft and image, present the absolute best possible version of themselves to attract as much as possible. Or be a massive gob shite. Either or really. Or sometimes being a massive gobshite *is* their best version of themselves. So it’s both, not either/or." That's a terrible thought. Good grief. Thankfully those that know, know I'm nothing like this in real life. I'm worse. | |||
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"Dear Meli I’d love to watch you take a shit. Loos women. Reckon I’ve made her flush. It'll be when you squirted your liquid around her rim. Hope I haven’t given her cisternitus. See this, Meli? Menfolk." Sigh. Yes. Menfolk. Can't wait until the two of you are in the same room together. It's going to be... well, it will be something. | |||
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"I like to think that I’m very candid on here as regards talking frankly about sex and sexual practices. I may pacify it a tad with humour sometimes but I’m really quite shameless essentially You always post in a way however that just opens a harmless discussion. Some men unfortunately post about a topic as a way of seeming to fish for interested participants or try to initiate private sexual conversations off the back of and I think that's what puts people off engaging. I love a good group discussion about sex regardless of who initiates it but I have to feel I'm not opening myself up to uncomfortable experiences by doing so." Thank you xxx | |||
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"Oh perfect. I can tell you, most men (not all men) but I will generalise, will go with humour on here. Wry few times I’ve I read a REAL sexual post from men on a regular basis, because we would be labelled perverts in the real world. Now try that as we get older. In our 40s. 50s etc. related to me - I’m a sexy guy, *true story. I enjoy sex, I like the person I’m with to feel as sexy as they make me feel. I like the intimacy , the foreplay, and getting in someone’s mind…. I once even became confident in talking about being bi-curious etc. But that was when my confidence was very high. Now not so much. And you know what doesn't help a guys confidence? Being singled out as bad guys. Single men on fab get such a bad time on here, esp the forums. Some posts can make you feel like a piece of shit. But going back to your question, I’d love to talk more sexually, I just assume it would be ignored. That’s a very articulate and authentic post. I actually understand more from this " | |||
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"This might be controversial, it might also be incorrect, but here goes: perhaps there is an underlying level of misandry here, and either consciously or subconsciously, perhaps this has an impact on a man’s willingness to express himself without fear of ridicule or backlash. " I think that there might possibly be some truth to this. Possibly. Take the descriptors in the OP - hardly shining beacons of acceptance are they? Yep, I'm calling myself out on it. I do think even on here there can be some rather negative mindsets that influence how people may post. Interesting point, thank you. I hadn't really considered that. | |||
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"Id talk openly no problem... but I'm Billy no mates anyway and nobody asks anymore cos I'm old... " They do ask though. In a generic way with threads inviting your thoughts - I'm not talking one on one conversations, just those to be found on here. | |||
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"Some of the problem is guys hide behind humour and that is often crude humour." Like toilet humour. It's pathetic. | |||
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"Some of the problem is guys hide behind humour and that is often crude humour. Like toilet humour. It's pathetic." Yeh, toilet humour is shit!!! | |||
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"Men should really share their love of sucking cock more. " I used to, when I was a younger man and that was something I was into. I’m not looking for it now. | |||
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"A conversation I had earlier (okay, a few minutes ago) made me think about this topic. When it comes to posting on the fora about sex - women are more accepted for doing so, more likely to do so. Men don't - not to the same extent, not without the worry of being/ seen as a dirty old man, not getting responses etc. So men. How comfortable are you with your sexuality? With discussing sex, what you enjoy openly... Do you ever shy away from sex threads because you don't want to be seen as a wanking dead? Or lessen your chances because you say I really like/dislike this. " I'm probably a little too open about my sexuality Mr H | |||
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"Men should really share their love of sucking cock more. " Some They do whole heartedly on here via messages and fabbing pics. Seems like they think the next best thing after pussy!! | |||
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"Men should really share their love of sucking cock more. I used to, when I was a younger man and that was something I was into. I’m not looking for it now." Well this doesn't help me now | |||
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"I think with everyone on here it depends who is saying what. If I said I love cleaning a man's butt hole, then shaving it before I stick my tongue in it I'd be ignored by most of the men who openly post on the forums. If a hot, young woman said it the thread would fill up in minutes." I spoke to her the other day! | |||
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"I think with everyone on here it depends who is saying what. If I said I love cleaning a man's butt hole, then shaving it before I stick my tongue in it I'd be ignored by most of the men who openly post on the forums. If a hot, young woman said it the thread would fill up in minutes." *begins growing arse hair* | |||
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"Men should really share their love of sucking cock more. " Do one of those cock shaped lollipops count? | |||
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"Men should really share their love of sucking cock more. Do one of those cock shaped lollipops count? " No. | |||
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"Men should really share their love of sucking cock more. Do one of those cock shaped lollipops count? No. " I draw the line at strapons. Beyond that is out of bounds. | |||
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"Well this doesn't help me now" I could send you a long, extremely descriptive, message about what I used to do and why I used to like it. That still wouldn’t help. | |||
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"Men should really share their love of sucking cock more. Do one of those cock shaped lollipops count? No. I draw the line at strapons. Beyond that is out of bounds." I can work with that. | |||
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"Well this doesn't help me now I could send you a long, extremely descriptive, message about what I used to do and why I used to like it. That still wouldn’t help." Does it come with pictures? | |||
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"Men should really share their love of sucking cock more. Do one of those cock shaped lollipops count? No. " Fine! I'll continue to suppress my true urges by taking it out on the lollipops in private! | |||
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"I had anticipated guys being more open about talking about sex and sexuality on here (not specifically orientation I might add). Nope. I don’t understand the reticence, but maybe it is all just not wanting to put women off. " Yes same. I guess it's like thinking that this place would be a hotbed for openness and acceptance. It's not quite an utopian fora is it? | |||
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"I think with everyone on here it depends who is saying what. If I said I love cleaning a man's butt hole, then shaving it before I stick my tongue in it I'd be ignored by most of the men who openly post on the forums. If a hot, young woman said it the thread would fill up in minutes. I spoke to her the other day! " Hope she's ok. | |||
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"Men should really share their love of sucking cock more. Do one of those cock shaped lollipops count? No. I draw the line at strapons. Beyond that is out of bounds. I can work with that. " I'm out your age range. Sorry. | |||
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"Does it come with pictures? " Nope. So that’s that then. | |||
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"I think with everyone on here it depends who is saying what. If I said I love cleaning a man's butt hole, then shaving it before I stick my tongue in it I'd be ignored by most of the men who openly post on the forums. If a hot, young woman said it the thread would fill up in minutes. *begins growing arse hair*" I'm holding you to this! | |||
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"I had anticipated guys being more open about talking about sex and sexuality on here (not specifically orientation I might add). Nope. I don’t understand the reticence, but maybe it is all just not wanting to put women off. Yes same. I guess it's like thinking that this place would be a hotbed for openness and acceptance. It's not quite an utopian fora is it? " I’m mercifully oblivious to the dystopia. | |||
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"A conversation I had earlier (okay, a few minutes ago) made me think about this topic. When it comes to posting on the fora about sex - women are more accepted for doing so, more likely to do so. Men don't - not to the same extent, not without the worry of being/ seen as a dirty old man, not getting responses etc. So men. How comfortable are you with your sexuality? With discussing sex, what you enjoy openly... Do you ever shy away from sex threads because you don't want to be seen as a wanking dead? Or lessen your chances because you say I really like/dislike this. " In terms of my sexuality I'm 100% comfortable. Sex threads I just post what I think and don't really worry about it affecting my chances because I wouldn't want to do the sex with someone I'm not sexually compatible with anyway. BUT I'm also conscious that I don't want to come across as seedy or "the wanking dead" because that's not what I'm about at all. | |||
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"I am very comfortable with my sexuality, bar some existential confidence issues, and with discussing sex - ever so slightly openly or within the confines of a private conversation. Mostly the latter though. I stay away from sex threads simply because women are, as you say, accepted. When a man does something similar the reactions and responses are sometimes treated as lecherous or debauched. Not all men are roué, however. I think the comments from Kaitonel and AlisaGeorge are valid; I agree with their sentiments. With all that said and done... ...I would reluctantly admit there have been moments when I wanted to saunter down the fashionable Marylebone High Street with you, sneak you through the back door of The Conran Store, into the post-modernism furniture section and bend you over a vintage black leather Le Courbusier armchair and fuck your quinny from behind until the clear tears of pleasure trickled down the insides of your silken thighs as we made a beeline for the EXIT with nothing to show except our whip-lashed smiles." You're so lovely Nerolatte. And far too flattering. | |||
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"I think with everyone on here it depends who is saying what. If I said I love cleaning a man's butt hole, then shaving it before I stick my tongue in it I'd be ignored by most of the men who openly post on the forums. If a hot, young woman said it the thread would fill up in minutes. *begins growing arse hair* I'm holding you to this! " ill let you know when it's grown | |||
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