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"so is this a definate for all drivers..do not have to pull over for unmarked police car?? i do understand a ladies position on this,,great to see 112!!! " If you feel unsure that an unmarked car is the police or not then regardless of your sex you shouldn't pull over. Like the article say, acknowledge them and then continue to a service area and then stop. If they get shitty with you (and ARE the police) inform them of the law and that should shut them up. | |||
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"But surely you'd have to pull over to use mobile " Not if you have hands-free. | |||
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"But surely you'd have to pull over to use mobile Not if you have hands-free." Calls to 999 and 112 are exempt if it is impractical or unsafe to stop. | |||
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"does sound like an urban myth albeit with some good advice within it... however cant imagine if this did occur that the local and national media would not have it out there.. public safety etc.. and its a positive story for whichever Police force involved, their press office would push it.. how recent is it meant to have happened?" I don't know. As I said, it's doing the rounds on fb so it may be quite an old story. I've not seen it before though. | |||
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"as alorry driver we have similar instructions as this is the way highjackers opperate many companys who carry high value loads issue you with a card to place in the windscreen informing the police you will continue to the nearest police station ." The Post Office armoured vehicles have a similar system in place too. | |||
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"I'd pull over, lower the window sufficiently for an ID to be passed to me so that I can ascertain if it is genuine, before I would proceed any further. " That's the point though Pearl, a rapist would be more likely to present you with a hammer than an ID card. If you stop in a layby for example, you putting yourself at risk. If you keep moving he'd have to force you to stop. | |||
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"This is doing the rounds on FB, not sure how true it is, but certainly gives you food for thought: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ?1.00pm in the afternoon, and Lauren was driving to visit a friend, when an UNMARKED police car pulled up behind her and put its lights on. Lauren's parents have 4 children (of various ages) and have always told them never to pull over for an unmarked car on the side of the road, but rather wait until they get to a service station, etc. So Lauren remembered her parents' advice, and telephoned 112 from her mobile phone. This connected her to the police dispatcher she told the dispatcher that there was an unmarked car with a flashing blue light behind her and that she would not pull over right away but wait until she was in a service station or busy area. The dispatcher checked to see if there was a police car where she was and there wasn't and he told her to keep driving, remain calm and that he had back-up already on the way. Ten minutes later 4 police cars surrounded her and the unmarked car behind her. One policeman went to her side and the others surrounded the car behind. They pulled the guy from the car and tackled him to the ground........the man was a convicted rapist and wanted for other crimes. I never knew that bit of advice, but especially for a woman alone in a car, you do not have to pull over for an UNMARKED car. Apparently police have to respect your right to keep going to a 'safe' place. You obviously need to make some signals that you acknowledge them I.e., put on your hazard lights) or call 112 like Lauren did. Too bad the mobile phone companies don't give you this little bit of wonderful information. So now it's your turn to let your friends know about 112 (112 is an emergency number on your mobile that takes you straight to the police because 999 does not work if you have no signal). This is good information that I did not know! As far as I am aware, 112 uses a system called triangulation so they can also pinpoint exactly where you are phoning from." 112 is what i use when i worked for Security.. You also got 101.. But good to know thanks.. | |||
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"In Scotland all police cars marked or unmarked start with SF as the first 2 letters of the registration. ..........." There's one sitting across the road from my home now and that isn't the case. | |||
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"No1 never lower your window to check id even a fraction windows are harder to break when fully up. No 2 follow advice from others and drive on to a safe place if its the real police and they want you stopped they will just drive in front and stop you I know this because it happened to me I was driving an unmarked security vehicle real police will stop you forcefully hope this helps" No. 3 if they start to pull on lubricated latex gloves. Run as fast as your little legs will carry you. | |||
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"In Scotland all police cars marked or unmarked start with SF as the first 2 letters of the registration. ........... There's one sitting across the road from my home now and that isn't the case." Have you been a naughty boy | |||
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"In Scotland all police cars marked or unmarked start with SF as the first 2 letters of the registration. ........... There's one sitting across the road from my home now and that isn't the case. Have you been a naughty boy " No more so than usual but in this case I'm not the object of their attentions. | |||
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"does sound like an urban myth albeit with some good advice within it... however cant imagine if this did occur that the local and national media would not have it out there.. public safety etc.. and its a positive story for whichever Police force involved, their press office would push it.. how recent is it meant to have happened? I don't know. As I said, it's doing the rounds on fb so it may be quite an old story. I've not seen it before though." no, not heard it before.. the advice is similar to what a copper told us in LA, before we played dodge the bad area after leaving the airport.. | |||
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"112 is for any emergency service all through Europe now as well as the uk. ............" I don't think 112 works in Scotland. | |||
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"112 is for any emergency service all through Europe now as well as the uk. Obviously 999 here too. 112 gets you through to the same operators that you'd get with 999. They cannot find you by mobile signals as this cost money. They will know where you are if you're using a landline. Not much help if you're in the car I know. X" ccooo see my post above Either the lady was physic or they have ways | |||
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"112 is for any emergency service all through Europe now as well as the uk. Obviously 999 here too. 112 gets you through to the same operators that you'd get with 999. They cannot find you by mobile signals as this cost money. They will know where you are if you're using a landline. Not much help if you're in the car I know. X" 112 goes straight to police not though emergency operator and to get position on mobile is easy enough using triangulation method on signal strength | |||
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"Not sure how true the story is but the advice is good I think. I am not sure I have ever mentioned when my car went on fire and two fire engines full of firemen came to put it out ....but when I rang for the Fire brigade the operator thought I had been cut off and told the FB exactly when I was , what number I was calling from and even the network ( not sure why that would be relevant but there ya go )....so it isn't just the 112 number that pinpoints you...the 999 picks up everything too " They would have taken the network provider in case they couldn't find you. It happens sometimes with calls that are abandoned. When you call from a mobile your approximate location in detected from eastings and Northings of the nearest mast. For example, you fall down the stairs and can't move your legs, (sorry bit drastic!) You call 999/112 but before you give the address your battery dies. The operator will tell the call handler your number and network, they will then proceed to call you back. If no contact is made then they can then contact your service provider to see if your mobile phone is registered to an address within the easting and Northing range. If it does then that's the address they should dispatch to. I think that makes sense! | |||
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"In Scotland all police cars marked or unmarked start with SF as the first 2 letters of the registration. If im being followed etc by what I think is a unmarked police car I always check the reg first. I would so the same though if I was in car myself, on a country road etc I wouldn't just pull over cos they had a flashing blue light. You also can lock doors once pulled over, put your window slightly down and ask for Id before stepping out vehicle. If your insure still as op said contact 112 or 999 to double check if legitimate police or not" Dont be fooled by SF on the Reg plate thats only the area where the vehicle was first registered, S Scotland and F Falkirk, there are plenty of other vehicles with this plate that are NOT Police. | |||
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"112 is for any emergency service all through Europe now as well as the uk. ............ I don't think 112 works in Scotland." It does! | |||
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"Not sure how true the story is but the advice is good I think. I am not sure I have ever mentioned when my car went on fire and two fire engines full of firemen came to put it out ....but when I rang for the Fire brigade the operator thought I had been cut off and told the FB exactly when I was , what number I was calling from and even the network ( not sure why that would be relevant but there ya go )....so it isn't just the 112 number that pinpoints you...the 999 picks up everything too They would have taken the network provider in case they couldn't find you. It happens sometimes with calls that are abandoned. When you call from a mobile your approximate location in detected from eastings and Northings of the nearest mast. For example, you fall down the stairs and can't move your legs, (sorry bit drastic!) You call 999/112 but before you give the address your battery dies. The operator will tell the call handler your number and network, they will then proceed to call you back. If no contact is made then they can then contact your service provider to see if your mobile phone is registered to an address within the easting and Northing range. If it does then that's the address they should dispatch to. I think that makes sense!" It would do for someone at an address....but I was in a layby on a road. It makes sense what you are saying about why they need to know your provider though | |||
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"Not sure how true the story is but the advice is good I think. I am not sure I have ever mentioned when my car went on fire and two fire engines full of firemen came to put it out ....but when I rang for the Fire brigade the operator thought I had been cut off and told the FB exactly when I was , what number I was calling from and even the network ( not sure why that would be relevant but there ya go )....so it isn't just the 112 number that pinpoints you...the 999 picks up everything too They would have taken the network provider in case they couldn't find you. It happens sometimes with calls that are abandoned. When you call from a mobile your approximate location in detected from eastings and Northings of the nearest mast. For example, you fall down the stairs and can't move your legs, (sorry bit drastic!) You call 999/112 but before you give the address your battery dies. The operator will tell the call handler your number and network, they will then proceed to call you back. If no contact is made then they can then contact your service provider to see if your mobile phone is registered to an address within the easting and Northing range. If it does then that's the address they should dispatch to. I think that makes sense! It would do for someone at an address....but I was in a layby on a road. It makes sense what you are saying about why they need to know your provider though " Good! Out in the street is more difficult. In busy areas your location is detected to within a couple of hundred metres. Not sure about hin the sticks though! | |||
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" It would do for someone at an address....but I was in a layby on a road. It makes sense what you are saying about why they need to know your provider though " Same works anywhere, they know which cell mast you are calling through and it works as the poster above said. | |||
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" It would do for someone at an address....but I was in a layby on a road. It makes sense what you are saying about why they need to know your provider though Same works anywhere, they know which cell mast you are calling through and it works as the poster above said." I get that bit, and have guessed thats how they could pinpoint where I was. I was just clarifying that I wasn't at an address so the posters comment didn't apply to me. | |||
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"But surely you'd have to pull over to use mobile " You can use a mobile when driving if you are in danger or feel threatened | |||
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"I've used this. Was first thing someone said to me when I started driving nice cars. I had to use it once as I was attempted to be pulled over late at night. I let them know by flashing my hazards. Driving very sensibly until I got to the police station. When I stopped the officers got very vocal with me. Till their Sergent had a word. I would never ever stop if I wasn't sure. " I'd have loved to have been a fly on that particular wall. Watching some in ya face copper get told the law would my idea of a fun night out. | |||
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"This is correct for women I asked a very good friend who is CID he confirmed it to me, whilst having a good natter he also told me that should you also find yourself at a cash point being forced to withdraw money if you enter your pin the opposite way for example if my pin was 1234 enter it 4321 it alerts security on the cash point and the police that money is being taken under duress! And a squad car despatched to that machine. But anyone willing to try can they let me know if it works lol. " so what if my pin number is 1111 .. does a squad car get despatched every time i withdraw cash ?? | |||
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"This is correct for women I asked a very good friend who is CID he confirmed it to me, whilst having a good natter he also told me that should you also find yourself at a cash point being forced to withdraw money if you enter your pin the opposite way for example if my pin was 1234 enter it 4321 it alerts security on the cash point and the police that money is being taken under duress! And a squad car despatched to that machine. But anyone willing to try can they let me know if it works lol. " Now that definitely is an urban myth. If he is CID then he's been misinformed, but it's very easy to check, phone your local police station and ask them. | |||
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"This is correct for women I asked a very good friend who is CID he confirmed it to me, whilst having a good natter he also told me that should you also find yourself at a cash point being forced to withdraw money if you enter your pin the opposite way for example if my pin was 1234 enter it 4321 it alerts security on the cash point and the police that money is being taken under duress! And a squad car despatched to that machine. But anyone willing to try can they let me know if it works lol. " An urban myth I'm afraid.... | |||
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"This is correct for women I asked a very good friend who is CID he confirmed it to me, whilst having a good natter he also told me that should you also find yourself at a cash point being forced to withdraw money if you enter your pin the opposite way for example if my pin was 1234 enter it 4321 it alerts security on the cash point and the police that money is being taken under duress! And a squad car despatched to that machine. But anyone willing to try can they let me know if it works lol. so what if my pin number is 1111 .. does a squad car get despatched every time i withdraw cash ??" Wondered why I got arrested every Saturday morning ! | |||
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"This is correct for women I asked a very good friend who is CID he confirmed it to me, whilst having a good natter he also told me that should you also find yourself at a cash point being forced to withdraw money if you enter your pin the opposite way for example if my pin was 1234 enter it 4321 it alerts security on the cash point and the police that money is being taken under duress! And a squad car despatched to that machine. But anyone willing to try can they let me know if it works lol. " Tosh ! | |||
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"This is correct for women I asked a very good friend who is CID he confirmed it to me, whilst having a good natter he also told me that should you also find yourself at a cash point being forced to withdraw money if you enter your pin the opposite way for example if my pin was 1234 enter it 4321 it alerts security on the cash point and the police that money is being taken under duress! And a squad car despatched to that machine. But anyone willing to try can they let me know if it works lol. " I think thats a myth...who is going to wait for the ol bill to turn up for two days at a cash point? This 'story' has been doing the rounds since before 2002..it started in America (shock!) then Canada...then over to Australia..now Dorset..the womans name has also changed from 'Lisa' to 'Lauren'... So, sorry to disappoint, but its probably a load of ol bollocks...and the fact thats its on Facebook reinforces this even more...before long, in every town or city in the UK someone will have a 'friend' who knows of 'someones sister/Neice/Aunt/mum/grandmother who this 'really did' happen to... I bit like the 'salty Balti' story, the Mercury from a broken light bulb that 'ate' someones foot...and other associated urban myths BUT!...it is still very good advice, and advice that should be heeded...If it saved just one potential victim from a loon then the story wasnt in vain.. Decent coppers know the law about pulling people over..and they would/could always call for back up from a marked car.. | |||
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" When I stopped the officers got very vocal with me. Till their Sergent had a word. " They REALLY don't like it when you shout "You'll never take me alive, copper" and floor it, leaving Plod standing by the side of the road. They just don't have a sense of humour. | |||
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"i think someone has taken the piss and knows im gullable hahah wait till i see him next" With regard to 'taking the piss'..did you know that a policeman or policewoman has to let you use their helmet to urinate in if you are in need and there are no toilets available? Also as a female, you have the right to use ANY toilet in ANY shop even if supposedly for 'staff use only'...you cannot legally be refused access! | |||
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"i think someone has taken the piss and knows im gullable hahah wait till i see him next With regard to 'taking the piss'..did you know that a policeman or policewoman has to let you use their helmet to urinate in if you are in need and there are no toilets available? Also as a female, you have the right to use ANY toilet in ANY shop even if supposedly for 'staff use only'...you cannot legally be refused access!" Only if you're up the duff though. | |||
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