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Homeless person and Holiday say no

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I have just returned from Warwickshire visiting a friend who is ill in hospital. Booked into a Holiday in. As I put my bags in car before breakfast I noticed a homeless person. Knowing I could have been in this situation a while ago I went over and chatted. Now I never give money but will always buy food. So I went back had my breakfast and asked for a takeaway box and explained. Only to be told I can't do that as he has not paid for breakfast and is not staying. Now surely as it is a help yourself buffet if I want to take food out I can asI have paid. I eventually ending up sneaking two bacon sandwhices and used an old coffee travel cup and filled that up and passed it on. Now surely they can't say no

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By *offiaCoolWoman
over a year ago

Kidsgrove

I'm guessing they didn't want to encourage a homeless person to linger around their hotel.

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By *reyToTheFairiesWoman
over a year ago

Carlisle usually

Most buffet places do not give you the option of a takeaway box for leftovers. You're paying for yourself and what you want to eat at that time, not to feed yourself full and then take some away to feed yourself later or someone else entirely.

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By *ulieAndBeefCouple
over a year ago

Manchester-ish


"Most buffet places do not give you the option of a takeaway box for leftovers. You're paying for yourself and what you want to eat at that time, not to feed yourself full and then take some away to feed yourself later or someone else entirely."

Whilst yours was a kind thought OP, I completely agree with this.

J

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By *obilebottomMan
over a year ago

All over

Very, very kind of you OP but it's the same even in hotels on holiday. You can't take food out of the restaurant though many turn a blind eye for the odd apple or banana. It's sort of understandable. If it's a specific meal at a restaurant for example that you can't finish, they will usually pack it for you to take away.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I remember a Toby Carvery binning all the meat at closing and asking why they didn’t donate it to the homeless. I just got a shrug of the shoulders. Big companies don’t care unless it’s bringing them good publicity.

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By *reyToTheFairiesWoman
over a year ago

Carlisle usually


"I remember a Toby Carvery binning all the meat at closing and asking why they didn’t donate it to the homeless. I just got a shrug of the shoulders. Big companies don’t care unless it’s bringing them good publicity."

Food safety legislation. It's already been sat under a hotlamp for the maximum amount of time before it's considered unfit for human consumption.

Dry store food past its best by but not its use by date is donatable. Hot and high risk food isn't worth the lawsuit if someone gets ill.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Op. Nice thought, but as a business owner, they’re in their rights to say no.

Sad, but gotta accept it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Had you asked for a takeaway box and paid for an additional person or invited them in to eat with you they wouldn't have said no. As it was you had paid for one person and expected to feed 2. I get where the company is coming from completely here as they still have a business to run and probably can't afford to feed numerous people.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

This is my view.

You paid for one breakfast and had one breakfast. I'm guessing you could have paid for another and taken it out to the guy (maybe you did, I don't know) but you can't really ask someone else to give someone food on your behalf

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By *ustBoWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in Co. Down

I agree with what others said. Why would you expect the hotel to provide you with a second breakfast that you didn't pay for. Even if it was for a good cause as you thought. And I don't think mentioning the company is a fair either. The person working there was following company policy.

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By *otcplmidsCouple
over a year ago

Warwick

We were in London this weekend and came across a homeless man who was begging. I went inside sainsbury bought him a meal and drink, as no one carries cash on them these days. The look of shock and horror on his face, he did not want food but money for his next fix.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I remember a Toby Carvery binning all the meat at closing and asking why they didn’t donate it to the homeless. I just got a shrug of the shoulders. Big companies don’t care unless it’s bringing them good publicity.

Food safety legislation. It's already been sat under a hotlamp for the maximum amount of time before it's considered unfit for human consumption.

Dry store food past its best by but not its use by date is donatable. Hot and high risk food isn't worth the lawsuit if someone gets ill."

But they would have sold it 5 minutes earlier. Surely a system COULD be put in place to donate it.

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By *ndycoinsMan
over a year ago

Whaley Bridge,Nr Buxton,


"I have just returned from Warwickshire visiting a friend who is ill in hospital. Booked into a Holiday in. As I put my bags in car before breakfast I noticed a homeless person. Knowing I could have been in this situation a while ago I went over and chatted. Now I never give money but will always buy food. So I went back had my breakfast and asked for a takeaway box and explained. Only to be told I can't do that as he has not paid for breakfast and is not staying. Now surely as it is a help yourself buffet if I want to take food out I can asI have paid. I eventually ending up sneaking two bacon sandwhices and used an old coffee travel cup and filled that up and passed it on. Now surely they can't say no"

Sounds genuine,staff generally know the real homeless from the fakes.Every town has them,it's nothing new.The Arthur Conan Doyle/Sherlock Holmes story "the man with the twisted lip"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We were in London this weekend and came across a homeless man who was begging. I went inside sainsbury bought him a meal and drink, as no one carries cash on them these days. The look of shock and horror on his face, he did not want food but money for his next fix. "

Happens a lot in Norwich.

I’ve once had a guy ask me for change and when I said I had none he pulled a card machine out. I couldn’t help but laugh

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By *ndycoinsMan
over a year ago

Whaley Bridge,Nr Buxton,


"We were in London this weekend and came across a homeless man who was begging. I went inside sainsbury bought him a meal and drink, as no one carries cash on them these days. The look of shock and horror on his face, he did not want food but money for his next fix.

Happens a lot in Norwich.

I’ve once had a guy ask me for change and when I said I had none he pulled a card machine out. I couldn’t help but laugh"

Seen a few with card machines That's just taking the piss.

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By *reyToTheFairiesWoman
over a year ago

Carlisle usually


"Food safety legislation. It's already been sat under a hotlamp for the maximum amount of time before it's considered unfit for human consumption.

Dry store food past its best by but not its use by date is donatable. Hot and high risk food isn't worth the lawsuit if someone gets ill.

But they would have sold it 5 minutes earlier. Surely a system COULD be put in place to donate it."

It would only work in the immediate. And what business wants vagrants hanging around for free food constantly?

Nandos have a good program for their leftovers that can be rescued and go to homeless shelters, but most places will have precooked or frozen things that are reheated and so cannot be considered safe once they've passed the alloted time frame.

If more places used entirely fresh product and followed certain protocols, sure. But why on earth would any of the larger food corporations change from their incredibly profitable methods when they don't need to?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Food safety legislation. It's already been sat under a hotlamp for the maximum amount of time before it's considered unfit for human consumption.

Dry store food past its best by but not its use by date is donatable. Hot and high risk food isn't worth the lawsuit if someone gets ill.

But they would have sold it 5 minutes earlier. Surely a system COULD be put in place to donate it.

It would only work in the immediate. And what business wants vagrants hanging around for free food constantly?

Nandos have a good program for their leftovers that can be rescued and go to homeless shelters, but most places will have precooked or frozen things that are reheated and so cannot be considered safe once they've passed the alloted time frame.

If more places used entirely fresh product and followed certain protocols, sure. But why on earth would any of the larger food corporations change from their incredibly profitable methods when they don't need to?"

I don’t know enough about food safety standards to agree or disagree but your last paragraph is definitely true.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Going forward don't say jack shit to the place your eating in and just help someone in troubled times by taking food out to them if they require it problem solved

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By *inger_SnapWoman
over a year ago

Hampshire/Dorset

Surely you could have just bought another breakfast?

It's still a very nice gesture though.

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By *ryan...Man
over a year ago

1950's Original


"We were in London this weekend and came across a homeless man who was begging. I went inside sainsbury bought him a meal and drink, as no one carries cash on them these days. The look of shock and horror on his face, he did not want food but money for his next fix. "
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Professional beggers..in every town and city .. earnings average around £80 a day times 7..(I know this as fact not guesswork..) often while genuine homeless asleep in doorways nearby..the professional beggers usually sit near cash machines/ supermarkets.. especially when it's raining,genuine homeless in shelter,doorways etc to keep dry..offer food never money,all your doing is keeping most but not all in drugs..

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By *ndycoinsMan
over a year ago

Whaley Bridge,Nr Buxton,


"We were in London this weekend and came across a homeless man who was begging. I went inside sainsbury bought him a meal and drink, as no one carries cash on them these days. The look of shock and horror on his face, he did not want food but money for his next fix. ..

Professional beggers..in every town and city .. earnings average around £80 a day times 7..(I know this as fact not guesswork..) often while genuine homeless asleep in doorways nearby..the professional beggers usually sit near cash machines/ supermarkets.. especially when it's raining,genuine homeless in shelter,doorways etc to keep dry..offer food never money,all your doing is keeping most but not all in drugs..

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There was a journalist a couple of years back in Sheffield I think it was,photographed them arriving in cars and changing into scruffy clothes then off into the city centre.

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