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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Now this will rattle a few cages, however, all sensible opinions are sought on this, as no doubt people will have strong feelings about it?

We've just returned from a two week holiday in the Algarve, it was great, beautiful adults only hotel, nice area and mostly hot weather, just one problem......smoking!

The smoking laws in the UK are obviously much stricter than abroad, but it drove us mad! We couldn't even get away from it in the hotel grounds, no matter where we sat or put our sunbeds, the foul stench always wafted in our direction, regardless of the wind direction? There was a designated smoking area clearly marked, yet the inconsiderate f****** just ignored it, and instead, subjected the majority of other guests to their second hand smoke? Yes, this should've been enforced by hotel management, but why do these people insist on ignoring the rules, and pleasing themselves where they carry out the disgusting habit, so.....

Do you think that smoking should be banned within the confines of a hotel, building, restaurant, whatever, and like most places here in the UK, if you want to smoke, it should be outside in the public street/designated smoking area?

Right, we'll now go and prepare ourselves for the barrage of abuse.....

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By *otSoPoshWoman
over a year ago

In a ball gown because that's how we roll in N. Devon

I think that people should abide by the rules laid out for them, and that those who are responsible for upholding those rules should do so.

I don't think that everywhere should have the same rules or laws as we do just because I may not like something.

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod

over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

Nope. As an ex smoker I've seen those that still smoke persecuted more and more over the years, as well as those of us that vape.

I agree with no smoking indoors.

I agree with specific, designated smoking areas outside pubs, restaurants, clubs, hospitals...basically and public building.

But to suggest smokers should be banished to the street? No.

How would you feel if the situation was reversed and smokers could use any areas and it was the non-smokers that had to use designated areas?

As long as people aren't doing it in places they shouldn't, where its clearly signposted, then public spaces are for all.

I'm no fan of people eating in public (streets, not park picnics), but I'd never suggest they have to use designated areas. I'm pissed off when I go to a bar or restaurant and babies are screaming or kids running around, but I'd never want them banned.

People just need to be more respectful of eachother and appreciate that they can't always have everything their own way.

Maybe those that have at some point smoked view things differently than lifetime non smokers. Or maybe it's just me.

A

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Reading this I can honestly say I'm glad I quit.

But I'd I ever develop a hatred for it like this please shoot me.

We are surrounded at all times by people doing things we don't like. And some of those things others enjoy.

You need to accept there will be smokers and that's life.

Rules to make them complete outcasts somewhere they are quite entitled to enjoy and have paid good money to do so ....that's a bit extreme!

Designated areas for smokers and non smokers yes. I think that's as fair as it can get. And obviously would need enforcing if necessary.

I could rant about d*unk people stinking of alcohol and spoiling it things for others and not being segregated from the sober ...but I think you get the gist of that point.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I think that people should abide by the rules laid out for them, and that those who are responsible for upholding those rules should do so.

I don't think that everywhere should have the same rules or laws as we do just because I may not like something."

Yes very true, as the post said, the designated smoking area rule should've been enforced properly by the hotel management, yet despite us, and many other guests, raising this with the hotel, nothing was done, and the smokers were free to smoke where they saw fit? With regards to the same rules, every country has it's own laws, obviously living in the UK we're used to our laws on smoking, but other countries are a long way behind us with this one, so we guess we'll just have to hope that our next holiday will be more smoke free! Thank-you for your opinion, much appreciated (-:

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By *otSoPoshWoman
over a year ago

In a ball gown because that's how we roll in N. Devon


"Nope. As an ex smoker I've seen those that still smoke persecuted more and more over the years, as well as those of us that vape.

I agree with no smoking indoors.

I agree with specific, designated smoking areas outside pubs, restaurants, clubs, hospitals...basically and public building.

But to suggest smokers should be banished to the street? No.

How would you feel if the situation was reversed and smokers could use any areas and it was the non-smokers that had to use designated areas?

As long as people aren't doing it in places they shouldn't, where its clearly signposted, then public spaces are for all.

I'm no fan of people eating in public (streets, not park picnics), but I'd never suggest they have to use designated areas. I'm pissed off when I go to a bar or restaurant and babies are screaming or kids running around, but I'd never want them banned.

People just need to be more respectful of eachother and appreciate that they can't always have everything their own way.

Maybe those that have at some point smoked view things differently than lifetime non smokers. Or maybe it's just me.

A"

Well said dear.

(Also... I’m not a fan of other people. Can we ban them from places I go?)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Nope. As an ex smoker I've seen those that still smoke persecuted more and more over the years, as well as those of us that vape.

I agree with no smoking indoors.

I agree with specific, designated smoking areas outside pubs, restaurants, clubs, hospitals...basically and public building.

But to suggest smokers should be banished to the street? No.

How would you feel if the situation was reversed and smokers could use any areas and it was the non-smokers that had to use designated areas?

As long as people aren't doing it in places they shouldn't, where its clearly signposted, then public spaces are for all.

I'm no fan of people eating in public (streets, not park picnics), but I'd never suggest they have to use designated areas. I'm pissed off when I go to a bar or restaurant and babies are screaming or kids running around, but I'd never want them banned.

People just need to be more respectful of eachother and appreciate that they can't always have everything their own way.

Maybe those that have at some point smoked view things differently than lifetime non smokers. Or maybe it's just me.

A"

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By *ustus555Couple
over a year ago

NG 21

We got married in Cuba, beautiful country and ppl. I hubby was a smoker ( still am) but Mrs had been stopped nearly 5 yrs. I've always considered myself a very considerate smoker, won't light up around others, even try to find smoking areas when outside. If there isn't one I don't. Simple as that.

However, the hotel we stayed at even allowed smoking at the bar & in dining areas, which is completely alien to me.

Long story short, was offered a cigar (Cuban obvs) when a little the worse for rum one night & Mrs loves the smell.

Woke up next morning to find her outside " just having the one"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Now this will rattle a few cages, however, all sensible opinions are sought on this, as no doubt people will have strong feelings about it?

We've just returned from a two week holiday in the Algarve, it was great, beautiful adults only hotel, nice area and mostly hot weather, just one problem......smoking!

The smoking laws in the UK are obviously much stricter than abroad, but it drove us mad! We couldn't even get away from it in the hotel grounds, no matter where we sat or put our sunbeds, the foul stench always wafted in our direction, regardless of the wind direction? There was a designated smoking area clearly marked, yet the inconsiderate f****** just ignored it, and instead, subjected the majority of other guests to their second hand smoke? Yes, this should've been enforced by hotel management, but why do these people insist on ignoring the rules, and pleasing themselves where they carry out the disgusting habit, so.....

Do you think that smoking should be banned within the confines of a hotel, building, restaurant, whatever, and like most places here in the UK, if you want to smoke, it should be outside in the public street/designated smoking area?

Right, we'll now go and prepare ourselves for the barrage of abuse....."

Congratulations. You are literally more of a dictator than the actual Kim Jong Un.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoking_in_North_Korea

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod

over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset


"

Well said dear.

(Also... I’m not a fan of other people. Can we ban them from places I go?)"

Fox is often the same. The problem with going out in public is that you can never control who'll be in that public space.

Does that make me particularly cruel for carting her off to the social tomorrow.

A

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By *otSoPoshWoman
over a year ago

In a ball gown because that's how we roll in N. Devon


"

Well said dear.

(Also... I’m not a fan of other people. Can we ban them from places I go?)

Fox is often the same. The problem with going out in public is that you can never control who'll be in that public space.

Does that make me particularly cruel for carting her off to the social tomorrow.

A"

You're so mean. Send her to hang out with me instead. We can sit in different rooms in the house and not talk to each other.

Mind you... I keep getting made to be sociable. So actually... no. You take her and make her have fun

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By *leased to meet youTV/TS
over a year ago

Southend-on-Sea

Going slightly off subject but theirs quite a few so called non smokers on here that do smoke but lie as they think there's more chance getting meets!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Nope. As an ex smoker I've seen those that still smoke persecuted more and more over the years, as well as those of us that vape.

I agree with no smoking indoors.

I agree with specific, designated smoking areas outside pubs, restaurants, clubs, hospitals...basically and public building.

But to suggest smokers should be banished to the street? No.

How would you feel if the situation was reversed and smokers could use any areas and it was the non-smokers that had to use designated areas?

As long as people aren't doing it in places they shouldn't, where its clearly signposted, then public spaces are for all.

I'm no fan of people eating in public (streets, not park picnics), but I'd never suggest they have to use designated areas. I'm pissed off when I go to a bar or restaurant and babies are screaming or kids running around, but I'd never want them banned.

People just need to be more respectful of eachother and appreciate that they can't always have everything their own way.

Maybe those that have at some point smoked view things differently than lifetime non smokers. Or maybe it's just me.

A"

That is just it, they were doing it in places that they shouldn't, that is our point? Non-smokers sat outside anywhere, not just hotel grounds, do not affect other people in the same place with second hand, noxious smoke do they? Smokers exhale foul smelling, dangerous chemicals that affect others? You say that smokers shouldn't be banished to the streets, well, we shouldn't have to move chairs or sunbeds to another part of the hotel grounds just to avoid breathing in what they breath out, it works both ways my friend? If you go into a pub with screaming kids running around that piss you off, you can turn around and walk straight back out again, and it will have cost you nothing? We paid a lot of money to go on holiday, we couldn't just turn back around and go to another hotel or come home, but have to endure being smoked out by inconsiderate individuals that feel entitled to ignore the rules? Thanks for your response, much appreciated (-:

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Going slightly off subject but theirs quite a few so called non smokers on here that do smoke but lie as they think there's more chance getting meets!"

Indeed there is, we've been caught out by that one, very true what you say! Thanks!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"We got married in Cuba, beautiful country and ppl. I hubby was a smoker ( still am) but Mrs had been stopped nearly 5 yrs. I've always considered myself a very considerate smoker, won't light up around others, even try to find smoking areas when outside. If there isn't one I don't. Simple as that.

However, the hotel we stayed at even allowed smoking at the bar & in dining areas, which is completely alien to me.

Long story short, was offered a cigar (Cuban obvs) when a little the worse for rum one night & Mrs loves the smell.

Woke up next morning to find her outside " just having the one"

"

Good quote, unfortunately there needs to be more considerate smokers around that do think about others and stick to the rules wherever they may be, our recent experience certainly wasn't like that! Thanks for your response (-:

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm sure it wasnt half as bad as you make out, you appear to enjoy overstating things.

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By *ora the explorerWoman
over a year ago

Paradise, Herts


"Now this will rattle a few cages, however, all sensible opinions are sought on this, as no doubt people will have strong feelings about it?

We've just returned from a two week holiday in the Algarve, it was great, beautiful adults only hotel, nice area and mostly hot weather, just one problem......smoking!

The smoking laws in the UK are obviously much stricter than abroad, but it drove us mad! We couldn't even get away from it in the hotel grounds, no matter where we sat or put our sunbeds, the foul stench always wafted in our direction, regardless of the wind direction? There was a designated smoking area clearly marked, yet the inconsiderate f****** just ignored it, and instead, subjected the majority of other guests to their second hand smoke? Yes, this should've been enforced by hotel management, but why do these people insist on ignoring the rules, and pleasing themselves where they carry out the disgusting habit, so.....

Do you think that smoking should be banned within the confines of a hotel, building, restaurant, whatever, and like most places here in the UK, if you want to smoke, it should be outside in the public street/designated smoking area?

Right, we'll now go and prepare ourselves for the barrage of abuse....."

Nope. I don’t think it should be banned outside.

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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago

Travelling

One thing to keep in mind is it's generally not a smokers thing. It's a people thing.

Inconsiderate smokers will generally be inconsiderate people regardless of if they are smokers or not. They will be doing whatever they like and how they like without thought for others no matter what.

I have my own hate for some smokers (key word some!) for other reasons (though it still comes back to inconsiderate).

The rules in place already are fine, they should be enforced better, and followed better but no other restrictions need to happen.

If I'm walking behind somebody smoking (or vaping) I will adjust so it's not an issue for me. If that person is doing it on purpose and subjecting me to that smoke intentionally, then we have an issue.

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By *ee04Man
over a year ago

Essex

If I am right and I may not be, the smoking rule was an EU rule. We as country of rule followers eg orderly queueing etc will follow the rules.

Other countries especially the ones were they see smoking as a right do not.

O a recent trip to Egypt I found my self arguing with Russians, Italians etc who would just walk to the front of the queue.

As a ex smoker who still vapes and smoke cigars, especially on holiday. I will follow the rules as I consider myself considerate of others.

What does get my back are the waiters and coughers who make a dramatic show when I am smoking in a designated place. I was once sat in a smoking area outside a bar in Spain, a fella came to me and asked me to put out my rather expensive cigar, as his wife was feeling sick. I pointed out that I was in a smoking allowed area designated by a sign and the ash trays on all the tables. He said he knew this but his wife liked a certain table and that I was being inconsiderate to his wife. His wife was sitting at the table doing the waft and cough actions. My smoke going in the opposite direction.

At this point I was getting a bit annoyed as I just wanted a quiet afternoon beer, so in my northern charm said F@@k Off. He then went to complain to the bar staff who also pointed out it was a smoking area and he was free to sit anywhere else. They spent the next 15 minutes coughing and wafting before leaving.

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By *ustus555Couple
over a year ago

NG 21


"If I am right and I may not be, the smoking rule was an EU rule. We as country of rule followers eg orderly queueing etc will follow the rules.

Other countries especially the ones were they see smoking as a right do not.

O a recent trip to Egypt I found my self arguing with Russians, Italians etc who would just walk to the front of the queue.

As a ex smoker who still vapes and smoke cigars, especially on holiday. I will follow the rules as I consider myself considerate of others.

What does get my back are the waiters and coughers who make a dramatic show when I am smoking in a designated place. I was once sat in a smoking area outside a bar in Spain, a fella came to me and asked me to put out my rather expensive cigar, as his wife was feeling sick. I pointed out that I was in a smoking allowed area designated by a sign and the ash trays on all the tables. He said he knew this but his wife liked a certain table and that I was being inconsiderate to his wife. His wife was sitting at the table doing the waft and cough actions. My smoke going in the opposite direction.

At this point I was getting a bit annoyed as I just wanted a quiet afternoon beer, so in my northern charm said F@@k Off. He then went to complain to the bar staff who also pointed out it was a smoking area and he was free to sit anywhere else. They spent the next 15 minutes coughing and wafting before leaving. "

To be fair, in that situation I would of done the same. Purely because they were playing the " I'm a regular" card.

It's hard in some parts of Spain to know where you can and can't smoke.

Canaries being a good example.

Nearly got a fine for leaving a bar area to go into the street to smoke.

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod

over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset


"If I am right and I may not be, the smoking rule was an EU rule. We as country of rule followers eg orderly queueing etc will follow the rules.

Other countries especially the ones were they see smoking as a right do not.

O a recent trip to Egypt I found my self arguing with Russians, Italians etc who would just walk to the front of the queue.

As a ex smoker who still vapes and smoke cigars, especially on holiday. I will follow the rules as I consider myself considerate of others.

What does get my back are the waiters and coughers who make a dramatic show when I am smoking in a designated place. I was once sat in a smoking area outside a bar in Spain, a fella came to me and asked me to put out my rather expensive cigar, as his wife was feeling sick. I pointed out that I was in a smoking allowed area designated by a sign and the ash trays on all the tables. He said he knew this but his wife liked a certain table and that I was being inconsiderate to his wife. His wife was sitting at the table doing the waft and cough actions. My smoke going in the opposite direction.

At this point I was getting a bit annoyed as I just wanted a quiet afternoon beer, so in my northern charm said F@@k Off. He then went to complain to the bar staff who also pointed out it was a smoking area and he was free to sit anywhere else. They spent the next 15 minutes coughing and wafting before leaving. "

Last time I was in Portugal bars had the option to be smoking or non smoking and signs were outside to tell you the status.

Just checked online and found this.

"From Sunday, January 1, 2023, smoking will only be allowed in restaurants, bars and clubs with an area equal to or greater than 100 square metres and a minimum ceiling height of three metres."

So seems you can still smoke indoors in larger venues, but legislation has been proposed to implement further restrictions. Despite the EU being a bloc, individual countries can still set their own rules.

Odd that given what so many were claiming about EU rules being all powerful during brexit, eh....

A

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Now this will rattle a few cages, however, all sensible opinions are sought on this, as no doubt people will have strong feelings about it?

We've just returned from a two week holiday in the Algarve, it was great, beautiful adults only hotel, nice area and mostly hot weather, just one problem......smoking!

The smoking laws in the UK are obviously much stricter than abroad, but it drove us mad! We couldn't even get away from it in the hotel grounds, no matter where we sat or put our sunbeds, the foul stench always wafted in our direction, regardless of the wind direction? There was a designated smoking area clearly marked, yet the inconsiderate f****** just ignored it, and instead, subjected the majority of other guests to their second hand smoke? Yes, this should've been enforced by hotel management, but why do these people insist on ignoring the rules, and pleasing themselves where they carry out the disgusting habit, so.....

Do you think that smoking should be banned within the confines of a hotel, building, restaurant, whatever, and like most places here in the UK, if you want to smoke, it should be outside in the public street/designated smoking area?

Right, we'll now go and prepare ourselves for the barrage of abuse.....

Congratulations. You are literally more of a dictator than the actual Kim Jong Un.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoking_in_North_Korea"

Ahh thank-you, that's the best response so far, you know what you're talking about, good on ya, i like it (-:

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By *ruceyyMan
over a year ago

London

Oh shit my cage is rattled

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I'm sure it wasnt half as bad as you make out, you appear to enjoy overstating things.

"

Oh right, overstating things then? So you were staying at the A P Oriental Beach hotel in Portimao between the 5th and 19th June to justify that statement then? First of all, your response is completely irrelevant to the question asked, and secondly, we can assure you that we wouldn't have randomly chosen this subject for the fun of it if it wasn't true? In hindsight, we should've got footage to verify our position on this, then you would've seen for yourself that we've certainly not 'overstated' things as you seem to have assumed, we don't 'enjoy' overstating anything at all no matter what it's about, and we certainly don't enjoy is being subjected to second hand cigarette smoke spoiling our holiday?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm sure it wasnt half as bad as you make out, you appear to enjoy overstating things.

Oh right, overstating things then? So you were staying at the A P Oriental Beach hotel in Portimao between the 5th and 19th June to justify that statement then? First of all, your response is completely irrelevant to the question asked, and secondly, we can assure you that we wouldn't have randomly chosen this subject for the fun of it if it wasn't true? In hindsight, we should've got footage to verify our position on this, then you would've seen for yourself that we've certainly not 'overstated' things as you seem to have assumed, we don't 'enjoy' overstating anything at all no matter what it's about, and we certainly don't enjoy is being subjected to second hand cigarette smoke spoiling our holiday?"

I rest my case

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By *ustamanMan
over a year ago

weymouth

Whilst we're on the subject of antisocial behaviour here's my list of stuff that (in my opinion and I'll admit others may have different ideas)

Smoking/vaping in public

Drones (fucking hate the whiny things)

Paramotor flyers (this and the drones should be covered by the CAA legislature but it's generally ignored around here)

Anybody subjecting their choice of music on others on a public beach

Disposable barbicues

Dog owners who don't clear up after their pet or even worse hang a bag of poo on a tree for the poo fairies to collect

Oooh I'm on a roll now

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By *ee04Man
over a year ago

Essex


"I'm sure it wasnt half as bad as you make out, you appear to enjoy overstating things.

Oh right, overstating things then? So you were staying at the A P Oriental Beach hotel in Portimao between the 5th and 19th June to justify that statement then? First of all, your response is completely irrelevant to the question asked, and secondly, we can assure you that we wouldn't have randomly chosen this subject for the fun of it if it wasn't true? In hindsight, we should've got footage to verify our position on this, then you would've seen for yourself that we've certainly not 'overstated' things as you seem to have assumed, we don't 'enjoy' overstating anything at all no matter what it's about, and we certainly don't enjoy is being subjected to second hand cigarette smoke spoiling our holiday?

I rest my case "

Lmao

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"If I am right and I may not be, the smoking rule was an EU rule. We as country of rule followers eg orderly queueing etc will follow the rules.

Other countries especially the ones were they see smoking as a right do not.

O a recent trip to Egypt I found my self arguing with Russians, Italians etc who would just walk to the front of the queue.

As a ex smoker who still vapes and smoke cigars, especially on holiday. I will follow the rules as I consider myself considerate of others.

What does get my back are the waiters and coughers who make a dramatic show when I am smoking in a designated place. I was once sat in a smoking area outside a bar in Spain, a fella came to me and asked me to put out my rather expensive cigar, as his wife was feeling sick. I pointed out that I was in a smoking allowed area designated by a sign and the ash trays on all the tables. He said he knew this but his wife liked a certain table and that I was being inconsiderate to his wife. His wife was sitting at the table doing the waft and cough actions. My smoke going in the opposite direction.

At this point I was getting a bit annoyed as I just wanted a quiet afternoon beer, so in my northern charm said F@@k Off. He then went to complain to the bar staff who also pointed out it was a smoking area and he was free to sit anywhere else. They spent the next 15 minutes coughing and wafting before leaving. "

You were doing the right thing where you were at in the designated area, but those people were over the top with how they were behaving? Our point is that we don't have an issue with people smoking, it is their choice and to their very high costs, but we do strongly object to being subjected to their habit when they are blatantly ignoring rules surrounding it, when smoking areas are provided for them to smoke, if you can do it, why can't others? Thanks for your response!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Whilst we're on the subject of antisocial behaviour here's my list of stuff that (in my opinion and I'll admit others may have different ideas)

Smoking/vaping in public

Drones (fucking hate the whiny things)

Paramotor flyers (this and the drones should be covered by the CAA legislature but it's generally ignored around here)

Anybody subjecting their choice of music on others on a public beach

Disposable barbicues

Dog owners who don't clear up after their pet or even worse hang a bag of poo on a tree for the poo fairies to collect

Oooh I'm on a roll now "

.....lol.....keep going, this is getting better!!

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By *osey WalesMan
over a year ago

Surrey

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By *osey WalesMan
over a year ago

Surrey

As an ex smoker, i now get it. Never understood when i smoked but it stinks. When you smoke, I just dont think people realise how disgusting it smells and for that reason, justify it as oh you are being dramatic etc. But it stinks. Members of my family still smoke and i reckon i could walk around a building following them blindfolded, just following the smell. Its rank. But when you smoke you dont notice it

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By *osey WalesMan
over a year ago

Surrey


"Whilst we're on the subject of antisocial behaviour here's my list of stuff that (in my opinion and I'll admit others may have different ideas)

Smoking/vaping in public

Drones (fucking hate the whiny things)

Paramotor flyers (this and the drones should be covered by the CAA legislature but it's generally ignored around here)

Anybody subjecting their choice of music on others on a public beach

Disposable barbicues

Dog owners who don't clear up after their pet or even worse hang a bag of poo on a tree for the poo fairies to collect

Oooh I'm on a roll now "

I domt disagree with the above however... not just subjecting people to your music on beaches... trains.. oh my god. Buy headphones. I dont wish to listen to your crappy tik tok rubbish, or your shite taste in music or you tube. Buy headphones !

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By *ee04Man
over a year ago

Essex


"Whilst we're on the subject of antisocial behaviour here's my list of stuff that (in my opinion and I'll admit others may have different ideas)

Smoking/vaping in public

Drones (fucking hate the whiny things)

Paramotor flyers (this and the drones should be covered by the CAA legislature but it's generally ignored around here)

Anybody subjecting their choice of music on others on a public beach

Disposable barbicues

Dog owners who don't clear up after their pet or even worse hang a bag of poo on a tree for the poo fairies to collect

Oooh I'm on a roll now

.....lol.....keep going, this is getting better!!"

I am a dog owner, or should I say owned human.

I always pick up after my dog, she knows this and while doing the deed often looks back at me to say this one really stinks.

Don’t have a drone problem near me and to be fair not encountered many so would be unfair to comment.

As an occasional smoker - I will partake if it is allowed and I am not breaking laws/rules. I do think smoking has been outlawed in enough places now. I do remember the days when you could smoke in any pub, on the bus, even on the plane.

Disposable bbqs never used one never will in my eyes much the same as a gas or electric bbq. If you’re going to bbq do it right charcoal and fire. I have a several bbq’s including a Webber go anywhere that as it says can be carried and used anywhere.

Music - dependent on if they are playing what I like, I am guilty of having my car stereo to loud especially on certain playlists.

But I would add to your list.

Annoying engine exhaust noise from bikes and cars which were not made or designed to have them.

I have no issue with a M3 or fast Audi piping as it goes by but a two non fiesta sounding the same is ridicules. They are shopping cars for fu&ks sake.

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By *ustamanMan
over a year ago

weymouth


"Whilst we're on the subject of antisocial behaviour here's my list of stuff that (in my opinion and I'll admit others may have different ideas)

Smoking/vaping in public

Drones (fucking hate the whiny things)

Paramotor flyers (this and the drones should be covered by the CAA legislature but it's generally ignored around here)

Anybody subjecting their choice of music on others on a public beach

Disposable barbicues

Dog owners who don't clear up after their pet or even worse hang a bag of poo on a tree for the poo fairies to collect

Oooh I'm on a roll now

.....lol.....keep going, this is getting better!!

I am a dog owner, or should I say owned human.

I always pick up after my dog, she knows this and while doing the deed often looks back at me to say this one really stinks.

Don’t have a drone problem near me and to be fair not encountered many so would be unfair to comment.

As an occasional smoker - I will partake if it is allowed and I am not breaking laws/rules. I do think smoking has been outlawed in enough places now. I do remember the days when you could smoke in any pub, on the bus, even on the plane.

Disposable bbqs never used one never will in my eyes much the same as a gas or electric bbq. If you’re going to bbq do it right charcoal and fire. I have a several bbq’s including a Webber go anywhere that as it says can be carried and used anywhere.

Music - dependent on if they are playing what I like, I am guilty of having my car stereo to loud especially on certain playlists.

But I would add to your list.

Annoying engine exhaust noise from bikes and cars which were not made or designed to have them.

I have no issue with a M3 or fast Audi piping as it goes by but a two non fiesta sounding the same is ridicules. They are shopping cars for fu&ks sake. "

It's specifically music on a beach that I object too (or indeed at picnic areas etc), if you must have music play it quietly not wound up to 11 - I'm starting to sound a bit victor meldrew

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By *ornucopiaMan
over a year ago

Bexley

You get some leaves and roll them up in some paper, then you set fire to them and breath the smoke which makes you feel good.

One would think that, by now, people would have realised that smoking is a stupid pastime!

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By *ustus555Couple
over a year ago

NG 21


"Now this will rattle a few cages, however, all sensible opinions are sought on this, as no doubt people will have strong feelings about it?

We've just returned from a two week holiday in the Algarve, it was great, beautiful adults only hotel, nice area and mostly hot weather, just one problem......smoking!

The smoking laws in the UK are obviously much stricter than abroad, but it drove us mad! We couldn't even get away from it in the hotel grounds, no matter where we sat or put our sunbeds, the foul stench always wafted in our direction, regardless of the wind direction? There was a designated smoking area clearly marked, yet the inconsiderate f****** just ignored it, and instead, subjected the majority of other guests to their second hand smoke? Yes, this should've been enforced by hotel management, but why do these people insist on ignoring the rules, and pleasing themselves where they carry out the disgusting habit, so.....

Do you think that smoking should be banned within the confines of a hotel, building, restaurant, whatever, and like most places here in the UK, if you want to smoke, it should be outside in the public street/designated smoking area?

Right, we'll now go and prepare ourselves for the barrage of abuse.....

Congratulations. You are literally more of a dictator than the actual Kim Jong Un.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoking_in_North_Korea

Ahh thank-you, that's the best response so far, you know what you're talking about, good on ya, i like it (-:"

That makes sence. The girls did say it was about square meters per business to be fair. But me being me thaught it best to just go over the road.

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By *ora the explorerWoman
over a year ago

Paradise, Herts


"I'm sure it wasnt half as bad as you make out, you appear to enjoy overstating things.

Oh right, overstating things then? So you were staying at the A P Oriental Beach hotel in Portimao between the 5th and 19th June to justify that statement then? First of all, your response is completely irrelevant to the question asked, and secondly, we can assure you that we wouldn't have randomly chosen this subject for the fun of it if it wasn't true? In hindsight, we should've got footage to verify our position on this, then you would've seen for yourself that we've certainly not 'overstated' things as you seem to have assumed, we don't 'enjoy' overstating anything at all no matter what it's about, and we certainly don't enjoy is being subjected to second hand cigarette smoke spoiling our holiday?

I rest my case "

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By *hrista BellendWoman
over a year ago

surrounded by twinkly lights

I'd have been as cross as you OP, some people really don't give a shit about others. I do what I want, when I want, entitled behaviour regarding breaking social decency is common unfortunately

oh look she's put her washing out, let's light the bonfire...

Any way. Once the restaurants found that more patrons were attending their establishments more frequently once they had banned smoking, it really took off in the UK, But lots of European countries smoke heavily, so it wouldn't be in the buisness/governments interest to ban indoor smoking.

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

I think outside of UK there is a general smoking culture , whether it’s Shisha or cigarettes , it’s very social and common inside especially when it’s too hot to sit outside.

People are just more tolerant to smoking than brits, and if they really don’t like it they go somewhere else rather than whining about it.

I was an ex smoker for 17 years & tbh it never bothered me, bbq and smell of alcohol , and behaviour and sound of people drugg3d up on alcohol are far worse

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Totally valid rant OP! It is pure arrogance and disrespect from both the smokers and the business.

Unfortunately the smoking laws here are a joke too. We went to the hospital gum clinic on Tuesday and had to suffer through dozens of smokers standing in front of the non-smoking signs and tannoy announcements advising smokers to use the smoking area.

The attitude that seems prevalent in most of Australia is not focusing on "you can't smoke here" to "we have staff here that do no smoke and it is our duty of care to provide them a safe work environment". I (Mr) grew up in the era where the bans all started being introduced. There was obvious pushback (flamed by the papers) from both business saying they would lose customers and smokers saying they would boycott. What actually happened was a huge increase in business (the papers claiming a massive success). All the people who refused to go out because of the smoking was many times the number of smokers complaining. A knock on from the "our employees health" is an employee who does not smoke can not be forced to work in or clean the smoking-areas. The employees can be asked if they are willing and if any shift has no willing employees the smoking-areas are usually closed. Most states allow for 50% of the outside area to be setup as smoking but in reality it is nowhere near that.

It truly is a matter of changing attitudes by changing behaviour.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Interesting subject, I totally agree smokers should abide by the rules. Also agree drivers should abide by the rules when parking. It just seems people can be very selective in what rules they choose to follow.

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By *acktopervMan
over a year ago

Stourport-On-Severn

I must admit, i am a lifelong (so far ) smoker and have a huge amount of sympathy with the OP. When smoking was banned from inside Pubs in the UK, i was gutted. But, within a few years the benefits were obvious, no more stinky pubs. And yes, even as a smoker i could tell the difference.

The thing i will say about Europe and especially France, Spain, Portugal, Italy and especially Greece is that unless you are in a major city or very large town any and all EU directives are ignored. They simply do not exist as far as smoking is concerned. If the this was the OP's first visit to the Algarve, it will be repeated if you go back.

The reason is very simple, most southern EU countries have huge amounts of people that still smoke and always will do. A business needs there custom when you are not on holiday, that's why they ignore EU directives.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"As an ex smoker, i now get it. Never understood when i smoked but it stinks. When you smoke, I just dont think people realise how disgusting it smells and for that reason, justify it as oh you are being dramatic etc. But it stinks. Members of my family still smoke and i reckon i could walk around a building following them blindfolded, just following the smell. Its rank. But when you smoke you dont notice it"

Yes we see your point and a good point it is too, it is good to hear this argument from someone who has smoked and now doesn't? We fully understand that you'd not notice the smell if you're a smoker yourself? Most of us have walked past some sweaty person in the supermarket and got a whiff of their sweaty rank smell, yet that individual can't smell it him/her self? Good to see it from both sides, thanks for your opinion (-:

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