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By *dward_Teague OP   Man
over a year ago

wolverhampton

Two Ashes threads got too big, who would have thought it?

I’m still very disappointed after our defeat at Edgbaston but I still think we will regain the Ashes,.

Do you believe?

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By *ulieAndBeefCouple
over a year ago

Manchester-ish


"Two Ashes threads got too big, who would have thought it?

I’m still very disappointed after our defeat at Edgbaston but I still think we will regain the Ashes,.

Do you believe? "

Whilst I'm disappointed we lost, I'd rather lose in a 5 day thriller with a result in the last 10 overs than the old way of having to follow on, traditional batting collapse and the tourists only battling for 30 minutes to secure the victory. Bring it on I say, I expect Australia will retain the ashes but it will be 6 weeks of exciting cricket for a change.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Disappointed yes,, but it was a cracking test match could of gone either way but the bluddy Aussie got it grrruuuugghhh!!!

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By *dward_Teague OP   Man
over a year ago

wolverhampton

Second test starts this morning and Stokes has won the toss and put the Aussies in. That is an important toss to win on a green top with favourable overhead conditions.

Come on England!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Still believe, but we need to win this one or its going to be one hell of a challenge

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bairstow

Foakes wouldn't have caught him

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can't believe I'm missing this because I'm in the office for a team lunch

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By *stellaWoman
over a year ago

London

About time!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"About time!"

Do you like a bit of Tongue, Estella?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Strange team picks.

Woakes has form at Lords.

No front line spinner.

Foakes must have been caught fucking McCullums wife not to be picked .

Lose this test and bye bye Ashes

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By *ulieAndBeefCouple
over a year ago

Manchester-ish

Whoooop, see you Warner.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just got in from work, disappointed we have had 3 catch chances dropped.

No idea if they were clangers.

Back on the sofa in position, may the wickets tumble

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By *stellaWoman
over a year ago

London


"About time!

Do you like a bit of Tongue, Estella?"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wicket for Broad, reviewing....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bollocks

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

At last, very much needed, we are looking flat

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"About time!

Do you like a bit of Tongue, Estella?

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You must have enjoyed that spell where you had Root at one end and Tongue at the other.

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By *dward_Teague OP   Man
over a year ago

wolverhampton

Need a couple more before stumps, as it stands the Crims are on top.

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By *lex46TV/TS
over a year ago

Near Wells

Do you think Australia will declare this evening to have a go at the English batsmen?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"About time!

Do you like a bit of Tongue, Estella?

You must have enjoyed that spell where you had Root at one end and Tongue at the other."

Tongue's all over Head now, Estella.

I hope you're watching and taking notes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Needed that wicket, hopefully another quick 2 before close

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Needed that wicket, hopefully another quick 2 before close"

As if by magic..

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By *dward_Teague OP   Man
over a year ago

wolverhampton

Jeez our attack looks undercooked.

Jimmy is a rhythm bowler who needs overs in his legs and his injury r*bbed him of that. Broad thrives when the crowd is boisterous and you won’t get that at Lords. Tongue bowled some Jaffas, Robinson is a trundler who bowls the occasional Jaffa and as much as I like/admire Ben Stokes his fitness is a major concern.

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By *stellaWoman
over a year ago

London


"About time!

Do you like a bit of Tongue, Estella?

You must have enjoyed that spell where you had Root at one end and Tongue at the other.

Tongue's all over Head now, Estella.

I hope you're watching and taking notes."

*faps

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By *dward_Teague OP   Man
over a year ago

wolverhampton


"About time!

Do you like a bit of Tongue, Estella?

You must have enjoyed that spell where you had Root at one end and Tongue at the other.

Tongue's all over Head now, Estella.

I hope you're watching and taking notes.

*faps"

The tongue and head thing has holding & willey possibilities but I’m not sure the bowler was ever holding the batsman’s willy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"About time!

Do you like a bit of Tongue, Estella?

You must have enjoyed that spell where you had Root at one end and Tongue at the other.

Tongue's all over Head now, Estella.

I hope you're watching and taking notes.

*faps"

You missed quite an effective bowling partnership earlier on.

I know you love a good Broad Tongue attack.

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By *ulieAndBeefCouple
over a year ago

Manchester-ish

Is it too early to say 416 looked like a good score?

#kissofdeath

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

These are professionals! How on earth are they bowling this many no balls

They deserve this

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By *dward_Teague OP   Man
over a year ago

wolverhampton

Just got on the train to Euston as I’m off to Lords today, really looking forward to seeing how the day unfolds.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just got on the train to Euston as I’m off to Lords today, really looking forward to seeing how the day unfolds."

Enjoy ET. It's got the feel of a make or break day today for the series.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Dust to dust.

Miles

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just got on the train to Euston as I’m off to Lords today, really looking forward to seeing how the day unfolds.

Enjoy ET. It's got the feel of a make or break day today for the series."

Break

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What a joke

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What a joke"

Bazball bitches!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What a joke

Bazball bitches!"

Read the room, Joe

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What a joke

Bazball bitches!"

In a way, we're all the bitches of Bazball at the moment. She's got us trussed right up and no mistake.

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By *ulieAndBeefCouple
over a year ago

Manchester-ish

371!

It's achievable. I expect the bouncer fest will continue. So will England's batsmen have learned anything from the first innings? Probably not, but it should be an exciting final innings again.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Side note: the West Indies are so embarrassing

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By *inx and NymphCouple
over a year ago

bristol

This is the first cricket I’ve ever watched I just learnt the rules! I’m loving it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Duckett eventually fell for it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Duckett eventually fell for it "

It's pronounced "Douquet", Ricky.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Side note: the West Indies are so embarrassing "

Something really needs to change, I feel like it's a bit of a rot in the culture that needs sorting out. Really sad to see

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think this run chase is made for Stokes and Bairstow. If they get a partnership going, I wouldn't rule out an England win.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Side note: the West Indies are so embarrassing

Something really needs to change, I feel like it's a bit of a rot in the culture that needs sorting out. Really sad to see "

I'd say it's a change in culture more than anything else. I just don't think cricket is that important there anymore.

The talented kids can make so much more playing basketball.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh that's silly from Bairstow...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Carey has chucked that before Bairstow leaves the crease.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Carey has chucked that before Bairstow leaves the crease. "

I don't think the umpire called over though so technically the ball wasn't dead.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Carey has chucked that before Bairstow leaves the crease.

I don't think the umpire called over though so technically the ball wasn't dead."

No - agree.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Carey has chucked that before Bairstow leaves the crease.

I don't think the umpire called over though so technically the ball wasn't dead.

No - agree."

It's great theatre though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Carey has chucked that before Bairstow leaves the crease.

I don't think the umpire called over though so technically the ball wasn't dead.

No - agree.

It's great theatre though "

Bairstow started the game with a long walk and has ended it that way too.

Still, this has wound up Stokes and that's not a bad thing.

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By *ulieAndBeefCouple
over a year ago

Manchester-ish


"Carey has chucked that before Bairstow leaves the crease.

I don't think the umpire called over though so technically the ball wasn't dead.

No - agree.

It's great theatre though "

Loving this, the atmosphere sounds amazing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If I have a son I might call him Ben

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By *appycouple300Couple
over a year ago

North Dorset

The ball was dead. JB marked his ground before he walked out. However, I see why it was given by the umpires as the keeper gently lobbed at the stumps. It certainly isn’t the spirit of cricket. Should have been called back by Cummings

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The ball was dead. JB marked his ground before he walked out. However, I see why it was given by the umpires as the keeper gently lobbed at the stumps. It certainly isn’t the spirit of cricket. Should have been called back by Cummings"

Don't think the ball was dead though. Think that's the problem. Carey catches it, throws it back at the stumps.

As for being in the spirit of the game, I don't think that counts anymore. Especially as England bowled bouncer after bouncer yesterday. What is the "spirit" of the game these days? Winning is all that counts. I'm not saying it's right or wrong but that's where we are with professional sport.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The ball was dead. JB marked his ground before he walked out. However, I see why it was given by the umpires as the keeper gently lobbed at the stumps. It certainly isn’t the spirit of cricket. Should have been called back by Cummings

Don't think the ball was dead though. Think that's the problem. Carey catches it, throws it back at the stumps.

As for being in the spirit of the game, I don't think that counts anymore. Especially as England bowled bouncer after bouncer yesterday. What is the "spirit" of the game these days? Winning is all that counts. I'm not saying it's right or wrong but that's where we are with professional sport."

The spirit of the game is letting the english win. Why Aren’t they doing that?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The ball was dead. JB marked his ground before he walked out. However, I see why it was given by the umpires as the keeper gently lobbed at the stumps. It certainly isn’t the spirit of cricket. Should have been called back by Cummings

Don't think the ball was dead though. Think that's the problem. Carey catches it, throws it back at the stumps.

As for being in the spirit of the game, I don't think that counts anymore. Especially as England bowled bouncer after bouncer yesterday. What is the "spirit" of the game these days? Winning is all that counts. I'm not saying it's right or wrong but that's where we are with professional sport.

The spirit of the game is letting the english win. Why Aren’t they doing that?"

I've always thought this! Letter of the law when it goes for England, spirit of the game when it goes against them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Side note: the West Indies are so embarrassing

Something really needs to change, I feel like it's a bit of a rot in the culture that needs sorting out. Really sad to see "

Bless Holder. I love him but the team is crap.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Side note: the West Indies are so embarrassing

Something really needs to change, I feel like it's a bit of a rot in the culture that needs sorting out. Really sad to see

I'd say it's a change in culture more than anything else. I just don't think cricket is that important there anymore.

The talented kids can make so much more playing basketball."

This is true. I also always wonder if athletics is also more important too. Definitely a big Americanisation over there

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

It's within the laws so that's all that counts, as was the not out yesterday for Ducket..

Barstow was wrong and Carey was thinking on his feet, therefore he's out..

Made the game interesting..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The ball was dead. JB marked his ground before he walked out. However, I see why it was given by the umpires as the keeper gently lobbed at the stumps. It certainly isn’t the spirit of cricket. Should have been called back by Cummings

Don't think the ball was dead though. Think that's the problem. Carey catches it, throws it back at the stumps.

As for being in the spirit of the game, I don't think that counts anymore. Especially as England bowled bouncer after bouncer yesterday. What is the "spirit" of the game these days? Winning is all that counts. I'm not saying it's right or wrong but that's where we are with professional sport.

The spirit of the game is letting the english win. Why Aren’t they doing that?

I've always thought this! Letter of the law when it goes for England, spirit of the game when it goes against them "

And I’m buying into it only for the ashes

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By *ovelifelovefuntimesMan
over a year ago

Where ever I lay my hat


"It's within the laws so that's all that counts, as was the not out yesterday for Ducket..

Barstow was wrong and Carey was thinking on his feet, therefore he's out..

Made the game interesting.. "

Spot on, brain dead from Bairstow. Aussies still huge favourites but, can we dare to dream?

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By *ohnywrongunMan
over a year ago

Epping

Yes we can

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Iv only just put the radio on to listen today. I can't work out whats happening and who is doing the best. Please help me out x

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"It's within the laws so that's all that counts, as was the not out yesterday for Ducket..

Barstow was wrong and Carey was thinking on his feet, therefore he's out..

Made the game interesting..

Spot on, brain dead from Bairstow. Aussies still huge favourites but, can we dare to dream?"

It's very tense..

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By *enrietteandSamCouple
over a year ago

Staffordshire

Damn.

So close

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Broad ends up with 11 runs and 276 bruises.

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By *enrietteandSamCouple
over a year ago

Staffordshire


"Broad ends up with 11 runs and 276 bruises."

Reminds me of that banana I got from our local corner shop… full of bruises and gave me the runs.

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By *ovelifelovefuntimesMan
over a year ago

Where ever I lay my hat

Great effort but sadly in vain. 2 down and the Aussies looking strong. They have by far the better bowling attack.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Shame you didn't say:


"Reminds me of that banana I got from our local corner shop"

Then I'd have said "how's that?"

Then you'd have said:


"full of bruises and gave me the runs."

We need to work more on our double act.

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By *enrietteandSamCouple
over a year ago

Staffordshire


"Shame you didn't say:

Reminds me of that banana I got from our local corner shop

Then I'd have said "how's that?"

Then you'd have said:

full of bruises and gave me the runs.

We need to work more on our double act."

That would be wicket.

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By *enrietteandSamCouple
over a year ago

Staffordshire

Total entertainment.

Still struggling to work out how we lost that game from some very commanding positions.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A great finish to the match with serious drama that sets it up perfectly for the next three tests.

I really thought Stokes was going to do it again but unfortunately he came up just short. Also, I wish England fans would stop moaning about the Bairstow dismissal, it was pure naivety on his part and has only himself to blame.

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By *dward_Teague OP   Man
over a year ago

wolverhampton

So good to see the sandpaper boys upholding the spirit of cricket

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So good to see the sandpaper boys upholding the spirit of cricket "

Ooooh take this post back to the chef. It's a bit salty

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By *dward_Teague OP   Man
over a year ago

wolverhampton


"So good to see the sandpaper boys upholding the spirit of cricket

Ooooh take this post back to the chef. It's a bit salty "

They claim the moral high ground but they are a bunch of whining cheats. They play to the rules when it suits them and having been exposed as cheats they now claim to be the unofficial guardians of the spirit of cricket. The poachers are still poachers.

The sledgers, the get inside your head mental disintegrators.

THE CHEATS

What would have happened if we’d done that to them in front of 98,000 at the MCG on Boxing Day? A fucking riot.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So good to see the sandpaper boys upholding the spirit of cricket

Ooooh take this post back to the chef. It's a bit salty

They claim the moral high ground but they are a bunch of whining cheats. They play to the rules when it suits them and having been exposed as cheats they now claim to be the unofficial guardians of the spirit of cricket. The poachers are still poachers.

The sledgers, the get inside your head mental disintegrators.

THE CHEATS

What would have happened if we’d done that to them in front of 98,000 at the MCG on Boxing Day? A fucking riot. "

England do the exact same thing! It's always letter of the law when it goes for them and spirit of the game when it goes against them. Bairstow would do the same if it was Smith on strike but he'd have to actually catch the ball first!

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By *dward_Teague OP   Man
over a year ago

wolverhampton


"So good to see the sandpaper boys upholding the spirit of cricket

Ooooh take this post back to the chef. It's a bit salty

They claim the moral high ground but they are a bunch of whining cheats. They play to the rules when it suits them and having been exposed as cheats they now claim to be the unofficial guardians of the spirit of cricket. The poachers are still poachers.

The sledgers, the get inside your head mental disintegrators.

THE CHEATS

What would have happened if we’d done that to them in front of 98,000 at the MCG on Boxing Day? A fucking riot.

England do the exact same thing! It's always letter of the law when it goes for them and spirit of the game when it goes against them. Bairstow would do the same if it was Smith on strike but he'd have to actually catch the ball first!"

Examples please?

Have England used sandpaper to change the condition of the ball?

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By *enrietteandSamCouple
over a year ago

Staffordshire

No matter what your opinion on the sportsmanship is you have to admit…

It wouldn’t have been half as interesting and passionate without that incident.

Good work cricket gods

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"England do the exact same thing! It's always letter of the law when it goes for them and spirit of the game when it goes against them. Bairstow would do the same if it was Smith on strike but he'd have to actually catch the ball first!

Examples please?

Have England used sandpaper to change the condition of the ball? "

Collingwood's run out Vs New Zealand in 2008 or Broad not walking despite middling one to slip in the Ashes to start with

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No matter what your opinion on the sportsmanship is you have to admit…

It wouldn’t have been half as interesting and passionate without that incident.

Good work cricket gods "

I loved it! It was turning into a boring bouncer fest before that happened!

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By *dward_Teague OP   Man
over a year ago

wolverhampton


"England do the exact same thing! It's always letter of the law when it goes for them and spirit of the game when it goes against them. Bairstow would do the same if it was Smith on strike but he'd have to actually catch the ball first!

Examples please?

Have England used sandpaper to change the condition of the ball?

Collingwood's run out Vs New Zealand in 2008 or Broad not walking despite middling one to slip in the Ashes to start with"

A batsman walks when an umpire gives him out, if the umpire doesn’t give him out he’s not out.

Have England ever bowled under arm off the last ball of an ODI? Or have a batsman take the field with an aluminium bat? Or use sandpaper to alter the condition of the ball? How long had that been going on before it was caught on camera?

I admire the winning mentality of Aussies teams but they blur the lines of what is within the rules or the spirit of the game far too many times.

Mankad it ain’t

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"England do the exact same thing! It's always letter of the law when it goes for them and spirit of the game when it goes against them. Bairstow would do the same if it was Smith on strike but he'd have to actually catch the ball first!

Examples please?

Have England used sandpaper to change the condition of the ball?

Collingwood's run out Vs New Zealand in 2008 or Broad not walking despite middling one to slip in the Ashes to start with

A batsman walks when an umpire gives him out, if the umpire doesn’t give him out he’s not out.

Have England ever bowled under arm off the last ball of an ODI? Or have a batsman take the field with an aluminium bat? Or use sandpaper to alter the condition of the ball? How long had that been going on before it was caught on camera?

I admire the winning mentality of Aussies teams but they blur the lines of what is within the rules or the spirit of the game far too many times.

Mankad it ain’t "

Carey threw the ball in one swift motion before Bairstow even left his crease. The umpire never called over and was therefore well in the rules of the game. If it happened to an India player, I would be fuming at how stupid they were to leave their crease!

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By *hristopherd999Man
over a year ago

Brentwood


"Two Ashes threads got too big, who would have thought it?

I’m still very disappointed after our defeat at Edgbaston but I still think we will regain the Ashes,.

Do you believe? "

Not a chance

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

Was it within the rules of the game ...

Yes

Was it within the spirit of the game ...

No

This best spur us on for an incredible comeback!!

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By *dward_Teague OP   Man
over a year ago

wolverhampton

Carey ruined the reputation rebuild job after sandpaper gate, once again the Aussies are playing the game in that grey area called sportsmanship

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Carey ruined the reputation rebuild job after sandpaper gate, once again the Aussies are playing the game in that grey area called sportsmanship "

Good job England has never done anything like this against Australia.

Well not since the Bodyline tour in the 30s before sportsmanship was invented.

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By *awpleasureMan
over a year ago

Sutton Coldfield

I don't think the umpire helped by passing a cap back to the bowler. This signifies the end of an kver. YJB should take some blame but in the spirit if the game, they could have warned YJB and said next time I'll run you out.

Similar contentious goal was scored between Leeds and Aston Villa a few years back. The manager of Leeds ordered his players to let villa score an equaliser.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Managed to grab spare tickets for Saturday which wasn't the best in terms of action.

Australia were the better team in my opinion, but to win using dark arts has left a bitter taste regardless of the rules.

Hopefully we bring in Wood if for nothing else his speed and we can mankad a few of them

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By *heLongTongueMan
over a year ago

boston

I’m more disappointed in the England team than the Aussies at this point to be fair. We can’t seem to shake ourselves out of this Bazball attitude that has steamrollered over lesser cricketing nations.

The Aussies were always going to be tougher nuts to crack and coming in as a one trick pony trying to smash everything out of sight was always likely to be exposed against better opposition. The most disappointing thing is that actually it wouldn’t have needed a massive reset to be 2-0 up. Nobody’s advocating going back to push and prod 80s run rates but you can score quite freely in test cricket without the need to hit a boundary every over. England could still play attacking, positive cricket and go along at a good zip without the need to play the ball in the air. .We seem to have lost the ability to play the situation. Bill Bellicheck of the New England Patriots is fond of talking about situational football. All it really is is the ability to adapt to the moment, not play the same way every moment and every game.

Just chalking it up to experience and saying ah well that’s how we play is fine until the results start going consistently against you. If England play with the same attitude over the next 3 tests this could, worst case scenario be a whitewash, because Australia won’t hesitate to go to the short-ball and load the boundaries knowing England will fall for it.

Having said all that, I am a massive fan of Mccullum and Stokes and what they’ve done for English cricket since taking in their respective roles but at the end of the day Ashes cricket is how England captains and coaches are remembered. Nobody remembers Michael Vaughan as the captain of the victorious touring side in the West Indies in 2004. He is , and always will be the captain who won the Ashes in that memorable 2005 series. Similarly Alastair Cook will (apart from his ridiculous run scoring) be remembered as the captain that led England in Australia in 2011. Stokes man management skills by all accounts are second to none and we’ve seen what he can do with the bat on a personal level but it would be such a shame if he were to be remembered as the captain that bullied other nations but couldn’t adapt to Ashes cricket. Here’s hoping for a subtle strategy change this week at Headingly.

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By *awpleasureMan
over a year ago

Sutton Coldfield


"I’m more disappointed in the England team than the Aussies at this point to be fair. We can’t seem to shake ourselves out of this Bazball attitude that has steamrollered over lesser cricketing nations.

Pretty sure it was Strauss

The Aussies were always going to be tougher nuts to crack and coming in as a one trick pony trying to smash everything out of sight was always likely to be exposed against better opposition. The most disappointing thing is that actually it wouldn’t have needed a massive reset to be 2-0 up. Nobody’s advocating going back to push and prod 80s run rates but you can score quite freely in test cricket without the need to hit a boundary every over. England could still play attacking, positive cricket and go along at a good zip without the need to play the ball in the air. .We seem to have lost the ability to play the situation. Bill Bellicheck of the New England Patriots is fond of talking about situational football. All it really is is the ability to adapt to the moment, not play the same way every moment and every game.

Just chalking it up to experience and saying ah well that’s how we play is fine until the results start going consistently against you. If England play with the same attitude over the next 3 tests this could, worst case scenario be a whitewash, because Australia won’t hesitate to go to the short-ball and load the boundaries knowing England will fall for it.

Having said all that, I am a massive fan of Mccullum and Stokes and what they’ve done for English cricket since taking in their respective roles but at the end of the day Ashes cricket is how England captains and coaches are remembered. Nobody remembers Michael Vaughan as the captain of the victorious touring side in the West Indies in 2004. He is , and always will be the captain who won the Ashes in that memorable 2005 series. Similarly Alastair Cook will (apart from his ridiculous run scoring) be remembered as the captain that led England in Australia in 2011. Stokes man management skills by all accounts are second to none and we’ve seen what he can do with the bat on a personal level but it would be such a shame if he were to be remembered as the captain that bullied other nations but couldn’t adapt to Ashes cricket. Here’s hoping for a subtle strategy change this week at Headingly. "

Pretty sure it was Strauss not Cook who was captain for that series.

Cook was definitely captain for the next series over here though

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By *dward_Teague OP   Man
over a year ago

wolverhampton


"I’m more disappointed in the England team than the Aussies at this point to be fair. We can’t seem to shake ourselves out of this Bazball attitude that has steamrollered over lesser cricketing nations.

Pretty sure it was Strauss

The Aussies were always going to be tougher nuts to crack and coming in as a one trick pony trying to smash everything out of sight was always likely to be exposed against better opposition. The most disappointing thing is that actually it wouldn’t have needed a massive reset to be 2-0 up. Nobody’s advocating going back to push and prod 80s run rates but you can score quite freely in test cricket without the need to hit a boundary every over. England could still play attacking, positive cricket and go along at a good zip without the need to play the ball in the air. .We seem to have lost the ability to play the situation. Bill Bellicheck of the New England Patriots is fond of talking about situational football. All it really is is the ability to adapt to the moment, not play the same way every moment and every game.

Just chalking it up to experience and saying ah well that’s how we play is fine until the results start going consistently against you. If England play with the same attitude over the next 3 tests this could, worst case scenario be a whitewash, because Australia won’t hesitate to go to the short-ball and load the boundaries knowing England will fall for it.

Having said all that, I am a massive fan of Mccullum and Stokes and what they’ve done for English cricket since taking in their respective roles but at the end of the day Ashes cricket is how England captains and coaches are remembered. Nobody remembers Michael Vaughan as the captain of the victorious touring side in the West Indies in 2004. He is , and always will be the captain who won the Ashes in that memorable 2005 series. Similarly Alastair Cook will (apart from his ridiculous run scoring) be remembered as the captain that led England in Australia in 2011. Stokes man management skills by all accounts are second to none and we’ve seen what he can do with the bat on a personal level but it would be such a shame if he were to be remembered as the captain that bullied other nations but couldn’t adapt to Ashes cricket. Here’s hoping for a subtle strategy change this week at Headingly.

Pretty sure it was Strauss not Cook who was captain for that series.

Cook was definitely captain for the next series over here though"

Yes Strauss was the captain for that series, I know because I was there!

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By *awpleasureMan
over a year ago

Sutton Coldfield


"I’m more disappointed in the England team than the Aussies at this point to be fair. We can’t seem to shake ourselves out of this Bazball attitude that has steamrollered over lesser cricketing nations.

Pretty sure it was Strauss

The Aussies were always going to be tougher nuts to crack and coming in as a one trick pony trying to smash everything out of sight was always likely to be exposed against better opposition. The most disappointing thing is that actually it wouldn’t have needed a massive reset to be 2-0 up. Nobody’s advocating going back to push and prod 80s run rates but you can score quite freely in test cricket without the need to hit a boundary every over. England could still play attacking, positive cricket and go along at a good zip without the need to play the ball in the air. .We seem to have lost the ability to play the situation. Bill Bellicheck of the New England Patriots is fond of talking about situational football. All it really is is the ability to adapt to the moment, not play the same way every moment and every game.

Just chalking it up to experience and saying ah well that’s how we play is fine until the results start going consistently against you. If England play with the same attitude over the next 3 tests this could, worst case scenario be a whitewash, because Australia won’t hesitate to go to the short-ball and load the boundaries knowing England will fall for it.

Having said all that, I am a massive fan of Mccullum and Stokes and what they’ve done for English cricket since taking in their respective roles but at the end of the day Ashes cricket is how England captains and coaches are remembered. Nobody remembers Michael Vaughan as the captain of the victorious touring side in the West Indies in 2004. He is , and always will be the captain who won the Ashes in that memorable 2005 series. Similarly Alastair Cook will (apart from his ridiculous run scoring) be remembered as the captain that led England in Australia in 2011. Stokes man management skills by all accounts are second to none and we’ve seen what he can do with the bat on a personal level but it would be such a shame if he were to be remembered as the captain that bullied other nations but couldn’t adapt to Ashes cricket. Here’s hoping for a subtle strategy change this week at Headingly.

Pretty sure it was Strauss not Cook who was captain for that series.

Cook was definitely captain for the next series over here though

Yes Strauss was the captain for that series, I know because I was there!"

Well jealous mate. I'd love to be in Australia when we win the Ashes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ok, I know it's more conducive to injury, but man seeing Mark Wood steaming in makes me love bowlers who can bowl above 90mph

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ok, I know it's more conducive to injury, but man seeing Mark Wood steaming in makes me love bowlers who can bowl above 90mph"

^He loves Wood coming at them quickly.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ok, I know it's more conducive to injury, but man seeing Mark Wood steaming in makes me love bowlers who can bowl above 90mph

^He loves Wood coming at them quickly."

Better them than me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ok, I know it's more conducive to injury, but man seeing Mark Wood steaming in makes me love bowlers who can bowl above 90mph"

I know what you mean though. He needs to be used sparingly.

I'm sure as soon as Head pops up, they'll pull off Wood.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ok, I know it's more conducive to injury, but man seeing Mark Wood steaming in makes me love bowlers who can bowl above 90mph

I know what you mean though. He needs to be used sparingly.

I'm sure as soon as Head pops up, they'll pull off Wood."

Pity they can't use Tongue though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wood found the perfect length there.

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By *awpleasureMan
over a year ago

Sutton Coldfield

Good to see woakes back and taking a wicket

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Day four ticket for sale. No refunds.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fucking idiot. Should’ve left that or played it into the ducking ground.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What a ducking catch though. What a catch.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is pathetic.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Day four ticket for sale. No refunds."

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By *ulieAndBeefCouple
over a year ago

Manchester-ish

Uh

*Sigh*

B

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By *inkydarkness90Man
over a year ago

North West

Second ball of the day. Oh here we go again...

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

That's shut the crowd up..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Day three ticket for sale. No refunds.

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By *enrietteandSamCouple
over a year ago

Staffordshire

I love all the positivity in here this morning…

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I love all the positivity in here this morning…"
im not stressing until we’re down 7 wickets

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By *iddlesticksMan
over a year ago

My nan’s spare room.

What has actually happened to Joe Root. Seems totally out of sorts and lacking confidence.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What has actually happened to Joe Root. Seems totally out of sorts and lacking confidence. "

BarryBall does not sit well with him.

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By *enrietteandSamCouple
over a year ago

Staffordshire

Shipping forecast time

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By *awpleasureMan
over a year ago

Sutton Coldfield

After the heroics of woakes and wood, the batsmen have let them down.

Was expecting more from YJB today

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"After the heroics of woakes and wood, the batsmen have let them down.

Was expecting more from YJB today"

I can't believe Smith caught it when Bairstow clearly edged it by accident. Totally against the spirit of the game by the cheating Aussies

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By *enrietteandSamCouple
over a year ago

Staffordshire

This Baz ball guy is much more fun

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By *handlerMonicaCouple
over a year ago

Leicester

That's been a fun last hour

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By *handlerMonicaCouple
over a year ago

Leicester

Could do with an early wicket, get the crowd back up again, before we unleash Woody on them

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By *handlerMonicaCouple
over a year ago

Leicester

Bit like that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Day three ticket for sale. No refunds."

Still available

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By *awpleasureMan
over a year ago

Sutton Coldfield


"After the heroics of woakes and wood, the batsmen have let them down.

Was expecting more from YJB today

I can't believe Smith caught it when Bairstow clearly edged it by accident. Totally against the spirit of the game by the cheating Aussies "

Very droll

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By *ulieAndBeefCouple
over a year ago

Manchester-ish

Bye Khawaja

J

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By *enrietteandSamCouple
over a year ago

Staffordshire

Game on

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By *enrietteandSamCouple
over a year ago

Staffordshire


"Day three ticket for sale. No refunds.

Still available "

Day four?

Could be a fantastic day out.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There will be a tempting target to chase for England, then you know they’ll be 47-5 in no time ..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Day four ticket for sale. No refunds."

Still for sale?

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By *enrietteandSamCouple
over a year ago

Staffordshire


"There will be a tempting target to chase for England, then you know they’ll be 47-5 in no time .. "

Shurrup Dan

Let’s get positive.

It’s back in our hands

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By *enrietteandSamCouple
over a year ago

Staffordshire

Huzzah!

251

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By *handlerMonicaCouple
over a year ago

Leicester

All to play for, could be a cracking day tomorrow

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Day four ticket for sale. No refunds.

Still for sale? "

Yes - £1000

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

251 to win.. knowing bazball they could have this wrapped up by the time the GP starts at 3pm!!! Lol

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By *enrietteandSamCouple
over a year ago

Staffordshire


"251 to win.. knowing bazball they could have this wrapped up by the time the GP starts at 3pm!!! Lol"

At this rate it might not make lunch!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Day four ticket for sale. No refunds.

Still for sale?

Yes - £1000"

bring the ticket and meet me on Tottenham high road around 11pm.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Day four ticket for sale. No refunds.

Still for sale?

Yes - £1000 bring the ticket and meet me on Tottenham high road around 11pm. "

I'm not falling for this.

Nothing good ever came out of Tottenham.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Day four ticket for sale. No refunds.

Still for sale?

Yes - £1000 bring the ticket and meet me on Tottenham high road around 11pm.

I'm not falling for this.

Nothing good ever came out of Tottenham."

*laughs in Harry Kane*

But you’re right. I was going to rob you.

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By *ulieAndBeefCouple
over a year ago

Manchester-ish

Finish time guesses?

I think England will hit the winning run at 14:50

B

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Finish time guesses?

I think England will hit the winning run at 14:50

B"

Just in time for the F1

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

Are we at squeaky bum time or are we all cool … 50 needed 4 wickets left

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By *handlerMonicaCouple
over a year ago

Leicester

Squeaking like a squeaky thing......

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

Twitchy is one word for it..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If they chuck it away from here, they want shooting.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If they chuck it away from here, they want shooting."
steady on

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By *awpleasureMan
over a year ago

Sutton Coldfield

Definitely squeaky but time. Plenty of time so why play anything risky.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If they chuck it away from here, they want shooting. steady on "

It's the only way they'll learn.

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By *enrietteandSamCouple
over a year ago

Staffordshire

Barmy army

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By *tourgentMan
over a year ago

Stourbridge

Bloody hell, this is tense!!!!!

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By *enrietteandSamCouple
over a year ago

Staffordshire

I’m still not panicking….

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By *r Black 85Man
over a year ago

nottingham

Come on Woakes and Wood

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Bloody hell, this is tense!!!!!"

Very..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If they chuck it away from here, they want shooting. steady on "

*click*

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By *tourgentMan
over a year ago

Stourbridge

Never in doubt!!!

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By *ulieAndBeefCouple
over a year ago

Manchester-ish

Aaaaand breathe....

B

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well done to England and especially Woakes and Wood. They both came in and gave England a completely different dimension and definitely deserve to carry on in the next test. Bring Foakes in for Bairstow and they have a real chance of turning this around!

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By *awpleasureMan
over a year ago

Sutton Coldfield


"Well done to England and especially Woakes and Wood. They both came in and gave England a completely different dimension and definitely deserve to carry on in the next test. Bring Foakes in for Bairstow and they have a real chance of turning this around!"

Foakes is a must

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over a year ago

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By *awpleasureMan
over a year ago

Sutton Coldfield

Still no foakes. Unbelievable Jeff

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