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"Hi all.. just wondered what everyone’s thoughts on entry costs at clubs ect.. Why do men pay so much more in this day and age?.. Difficult for the clubs to manage I know but is this price discrimination?" It is but like on here women rule so no women no sex clubs ![]() | |||
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"Hi all.. just wondered what everyone’s thoughts on entry costs at clubs ect.. Why do men pay so much more in this day and age?.. Difficult for the clubs to manage I know but is this price discrimination?" Do a quick forum search and you'll find 1,000's of answers on the same subject. The long and the short is this. It's legal to have differential prices. It's used as a means to control numbers. It's the most effective mechanism to do the above. It's not really fair - neither is life. It puts some off going but it's still probably better value than blowing a wad in a bar on a weekend night. A | |||
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"Also having a higher price for men discourages swarms of single guys coming that can be very intimidating to people as often single guys will follow you around all night " I doubt it does. They just limit the numbers. Otherwise it would still be huge numbers of blokes all willing to pay. | |||
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"Single women in clubs are often perceived as sex bait hence the low ticket price and I’m not ok with that. I’m all for equal price for everyone but limited spaces possibly, just a thought." Surely if their was a club with carefully managed numbers M/F and lower cost it would attract a whole lot more people? | |||
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"Also having a higher price for men discourages swarms of single guys coming that can be very intimidating to people as often single guys will follow you around all night I doubt it does. They just limit the numbers. Otherwise it would still be huge numbers of blokes all willing to pay." That's the other way of doing it but then when a guy left for the club he would have no idea if he could get in. With the higher prices, he knows he will. Both ways have their issues. | |||
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"Single women in clubs are often perceived as sex bait hence the low ticket price and I’m not ok with that. I’m all for equal price for everyone but limited spaces possibly, just a thought. Surely if their was a club with carefully managed numbers M/F and lower cost it would attract a whole lot more people? " If clubs were struggling to attract enough single men, they'd lower their prices. | |||
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"Single women in clubs are often perceived as sex bait hence the low ticket price and I’m not ok with that. I’m all for equal price for everyone but limited spaces possibly, just a thought. Surely if their was a club with carefully managed numbers M/F and lower cost it would attract a whole lot more people? " No, it would just still attract more men. There's less women attending in general it's not rocket science | |||
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"Single women in clubs are often perceived as sex bait hence the low ticket price and I’m not ok with that. I’m all for equal price for everyone but limited spaces possibly, just a thought. Surely if their was a club with carefully managed numbers M/F and lower cost it would attract a whole lot more people? No, it would just still attract more men. There's less women attending in general it's not rocket science " I agree, but if there was a club where everyone gets charged the same, number are managed and there is an even split, this would attract a lot of women who are not attending due to swarms of guys? | |||
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"Single women in clubs are often perceived as sex bait hence the low ticket price and I’m not ok with that. I’m all for equal price for everyone but limited spaces possibly, just a thought. Surely if their was a club with carefully managed numbers M/F and lower cost it would attract a whole lot more people? No, it would just still attract more men. There's less women attending in general it's not rocket science I agree, but if there was a club where everyone gets charged the same, number are managed and there is an even split, this would attract a lot of women who are not attending due to swarms of guys? " Most clubs manage their numbers anyway, I think. | |||
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"Single women in clubs are often perceived as sex bait hence the low ticket price and I’m not ok with that. I’m all for equal price for everyone but limited spaces possibly, just a thought. Surely if their was a club with carefully managed numbers M/F and lower cost it would attract a whole lot more people? No, it would just still attract more men. There's less women attending in general it's not rocket science I agree, but if there was a club where everyone gets charged the same, number are managed and there is an even split, this would attract a lot of women who are not attending due to swarms of guys? " Right, so are they then upping the charge for solo women to attend? Or lowering the prices for solo men? Because from a business model (which they are). They're still struggling to attract the solo women. So increasing prices is highly unlikely to attract them, no? And lowering the prices for allocated number of solo men is not exactly going to help th out because there will still be more males than women looking to attend. And where do you price couples in all of this? | |||
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"Single women in clubs are often perceived as sex bait hence the low ticket price and I’m not ok with that. I’m all for equal price for everyone but limited spaces possibly, just a thought. Surely if their was a club with carefully managed numbers M/F and lower cost it would attract a whole lot more people? No, it would just still attract more men. There's less women attending in general it's not rocket science " And it would attract even more men who assume a swingers club = a guaranteed shag | |||
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"Single women in clubs are often perceived as sex bait hence the low ticket price and I’m not ok with that. I’m all for equal price for everyone but limited spaces possibly, just a thought. Surely if their was a club with carefully managed numbers M/F and lower cost it would attract a whole lot more people? No, it would just still attract more men. There's less women attending in general it's not rocket science And it would attract even more men who assume a swingers club = a guaranteed shag" Exactly that no end of times have i told guys going doesn’t mean your going to have sex and if thats the only reason for going then it’s probably not the place for you to be. Yes sex does happen but if thats the only expectation people will be disappointed | |||
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"Put it this way OP. There are plenty of strip/lap dancing clubs who charge an absolute fortune to men who have literally zero chance of actually having sex in them. And they're clearly still in business as men are obviously easily parted with their money to look at tits & ass... Swingers clubs generally ask between a tenner to £20 additional for solo males to pay to again look at tits & ass. So, if I was a bloke and looking for a cheaper night to look at the aforementioned tits/ass, I know I'd rather stump up an extra tenner. But as its optional they can just stop home instead if they prefer ![]() Guess that’s one way to look at it.. Getting rid of these “blokes” from swingers clubs is in everyone’s interest? Creating a club with a fair entry fee and a good balance would encourage folk with genuine interest to attend and out the idiots? | |||
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"Put it this way OP. There are plenty of strip/lap dancing clubs who charge an absolute fortune to men who have literally zero chance of actually having sex in them. And they're clearly still in business as men are obviously easily parted with their money to look at tits & ass... Swingers clubs generally ask between a tenner to £20 additional for solo males to pay to again look at tits & ass. So, if I was a bloke and looking for a cheaper night to look at the aforementioned tits/ass, I know I'd rather stump up an extra tenner. But as its optional they can just stop home instead if they prefer ![]() You're going round in circles mate. There will still be more male demand than female to attend. Hence the pricing difference. It's not fair, it's not equal. But it's supply & demand. And until clubs start having to limit the number of solo women looking to attend then it won't change ![]() | |||
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"Hi all.. just wondered what everyone’s thoughts on entry costs at clubs ect.. Why do men pay so much more in this day and age?.. Difficult for the clubs to manage I know but is this price discrimination?" It is price discrimination and it’s perfectly legal. You’re paying for a different experience of the club as a single male. However we agree that in this day and age price parity should be looked at by clubs The simple facts are that men are in an abundance so the club can increase their admission price in comparison, it’s a simple supply and demand curve. The sweet spot for the club is to be able to charge a price high enough, that only the number of men sufficient to fill the number of male places will pay it. And yes it does suck. | |||
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"Hi all.. just wondered what everyone’s thoughts on entry costs at clubs ect.. Why do men pay so much more in this day and age?.. Difficult for the clubs to manage I know but is this price discrimination? It is price discrimination and it’s perfectly legal. You’re paying for a different experience of the club as a single male. However we agree that in this day and age price parity should be looked at by clubs The simple facts are that men are in an abundance so the club can increase their admission price in comparison, it’s a simple supply and demand curve. The sweet spot for the club is to be able to charge a price high enough, that only the number of men sufficient to fill the number of male places will pay it. And yes it does suck. " "Paying for a different experience of the club as a single male" !! ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Hi all.. just wondered what everyone’s thoughts on entry costs at clubs ect.. Why do men pay so much more in this day and age?.. Difficult for the clubs to manage I know but is this price discrimination? It is price discrimination and it’s perfectly legal. You’re paying for a different experience of the club as a single male. However we agree that in this day and age price parity should be looked at by clubs The simple facts are that men are in an abundance so the club can increase their admission price in comparison, it’s a simple supply and demand curve. The sweet spot for the club is to be able to charge a price high enough, that only the number of men sufficient to fill the number of male places will pay it. And yes it does suck. "Paying for a different experience of the club as a single male" !! ![]() ![]() The experience as far as we can see is walking from room to room like a restless animal. | |||
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"I'm yet to attend a club, I know chams does a reduced rate usually after a social event and without needing to be a member. £20 I was told unless it's gone up now, I don't think high price is right but it's necessary or it would just be a sausage fest and that's not what I'd want if attending " What do you mean by after a social event? Socials held at the club allow a non-member single male to enter for the duration of that day xx | |||
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"I'm yet to attend a club, I know chams does a reduced rate usually after a social event and without needing to be a member. £20 I was told unless it's gone up now, I don't think high price is right but it's necessary or it would just be a sausage fest and that's not what I'd want if attending What do you mean by after a social event? Socials held at the club allow a non-member single male to enter for the duration of that day xx" After Newport social | |||
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"For me I'll never go while they charge us more I can afford Easley to go every week but I won't yes it's a clubs decision it's also my choice to not be ripped off." My local club charges £30 entry for single guys and you can take your own alcohol. I'm pretty sure you'd spend more than that on a night out with mates ! For that £30 you get 5 hours enjoying a social evening with chance to meet face to face probably 50 to 80 active swingers, super opportunity if people haven't got verifications, also getting tips, swapping stories and maybe invites to future parties. You get a DJ playing great tunes if you fancy a dance. You get the chance to watch people having sex live....(not just on a computer screen), and the possibility of getting involved in the action if you hit it off with people. Are you really getting ripped off? I think that's excellent value for money . ![]() | |||
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"Men pay for the sniff of sex. Women and couples are the sex bait used to entice the cock ££ so get in for cheaper." Nailed it ![]() | |||
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"Hi all.. just wondered what everyone’s thoughts on entry costs at clubs ect.. Why do men pay so much more in this day and age?.. Difficult for the clubs to manage I know but is this price discrimination?" Shit happens, you could always couple up with a women....its called supply and demand simple | |||
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"For me I'll never go while they charge us more I can afford Easley to go every week but I won't yes it's a clubs decision it's also my choice to not be ripped off." I'm starting to kind of go along with this thinking. I would like to go to clubs for socialising more than sex. As for seeing live sex, I couldn't care less. If you can't join in then what's the point. I enjoy the forum because you can chat freely about anything without too much trouble. But with clubs you've got to pay extra and then fight uphill just to try and get a conversation in. I Hope it changes but I don't think it will. | |||
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"Someone posted on this a while back and there was quite substantial evidence that it is a form of discrimination. People where citing statutes etc. If that was upheld legally then supply and demand would not be a valid justification. As you don't need to alter prices to control numbers. You can just control how many people you let in." Nope. The equality act allows for differential pricing to encourage minority groups (in the case single women and to a lesser extent couples) to attend. Given the ratios at clubs on single guy nights are similar to Fab itself, it would be a cinch for any club to evidence that the current model works to level the numbers and that any change would result in a disproportionate number of men attending, thus reducing further the number of single women and couples that would attend and making the business an unfixable proposition, forcing closure. Funny how nobody ever claims discrimination because single men aren't allowed in at all on certain nights, or even at all at certain venues, yet always bring up the entry fees....... ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I'm sure it's been said... But gals are not just the customer but also the commodity. Isn't it unfair I have to pay to go to Wembley, but the footballers actually get paid. After all most me would not go to a club that is 99pc male. After all for every thread we have about entry prices there are 200 on fab ratios and not getting a reply. Imagine if you had fab odds AND actually had to talk to a gal to get your willy wet. " Eh there's no talking at clubs. Drop towel, point at semi soft willy.... job done mate. ![]() | |||
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"Men have always been targeted" Single men have never been targeted. It is simply the case that not only are single men in much greater abundance than other categories of swingers but also many single men have proven themselves untrustworthy when it comes to interactions in clubs. Clubs want to create an environment where people feel happy and relaxed and can have fun. That will always on some level require manipulation of entrants. Also I'm here to learn so I'm more than happy for someone to educate me otherwise ![]() | |||
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"For me I'll never go while they charge us more I can afford Easley to go every week but I won't yes it's a clubs decision it's also my choice to not be ripped off. I'm starting to kind of go along with this thinking. I would like to go to clubs for socialising more than sex. As for seeing live sex, I couldn't care less. If you can't join in then what's the point. I enjoy the forum because you can chat freely about anything without too much trouble. But with clubs you've got to pay extra and then fight uphill just to try and get a conversation in. I Hope it changes but I don't think it will." Not sure which clubs you've been to where you have to fight to get a conversation. In our experience there are people who chat and people who don't say a word but expect to just be invited to play just because they have their willy out. Club are friendly places so just relax and enjoy. | |||
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"Someone posted on this a while back and there was quite substantial evidence that it is a form of discrimination. People where citing statutes etc. If that was upheld legally then supply and demand would not be a valid justification. As you don't need to alter prices to control numbers. You can just control how many people you let in." Private members clubs are exempt. | |||
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