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"How much do ya pay" Nothing. The photos are the payment. You would have full access to them. I'm a documentary photographer mainly, I'm not working for an advertising agency or using them commercially. Also, this is not Annie Leibovitz asking to do a vanity fair shoot.... | |||
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"Agree with the scepticism you may find on this topic but also looking at your profile why don’t you have pictures on your profile as you keep referencing being a photographer? A lot won’t want to be approached or approach a blank silhouette. I appreciate that you’re looking for models and may not want to be in front of the camera yourself but looking through fab there are so many creative pics on here and aren’t just a quick selfie and can show personality through their photo style. In my head this made sense but I realised I’ve just rambled on! Even fully clothed, non face pics of yourself can be interesting especially since you’re a photographer and will be able to set the lighting/ background etc. " I also have another profession that is photographic in essence but involves me not being able to show my identity. Hopefully you can guess the profession. I have other means of promoting myself and this profile was essentially for me to meet people. I can understand people's scepticism but as mentioned I am more than willing to show my work. I know it's not what people want to hear but my own protection and job security is more important than any shoot. I have actually been meaning to do topless photos of myself with some shadowplay that will black out my face but not got round to it. Self portraiture has never been my thing and I have a load of photos on here to send with messages so I guess that's also a reason for my tardiness. There's hopefully others out there who see the artistic merit in my proposal and have not lost faith in all photographers because of a few bad eggs | |||
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"Agree with the scepticism you may find on this topic but also looking at your profile why don’t you have pictures on your profile as you keep referencing being a photographer? A lot won’t want to be approached or approach a blank silhouette. I appreciate that you’re looking for models and may not want to be in front of the camera yourself but looking through fab there are so many creative pics on here and aren’t just a quick selfie and can show personality through their photo style. In my head this made sense but I realised I’ve just rambled on! Even fully clothed, non face pics of yourself can be interesting especially since you’re a photographer and will be able to set the lighting/ background etc. I also have another profession that is photographic in essence but involves me not being able to show my identity. Hopefully you can guess the profession. I have other means of promoting myself and this profile was essentially for me to meet people. I can understand people's scepticism but as mentioned I am more than willing to show my work. I know it's not what people want to hear but my own protection and job security is more important than any shoot. I have actually been meaning to do topless photos of myself with some shadowplay that will black out my face but not got round to it. Self portraiture has never been my thing and I have a load of photos on here to send with messages so I guess that's also a reason for my tardiness. There's hopefully others out there who see the artistic merit in my proposal and have not lost faith in all photographers because of a few bad eggs" You do know that the rules say you have to be in any pictures you send, too? A photographer with no photos is not exactly... promising. | |||
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"Agree with the scepticism you may find on this topic but also looking at your profile why don’t you have pictures on your profile as you keep referencing being a photographer? A lot won’t want to be approached or approach a blank silhouette. I appreciate that you’re looking for models and may not want to be in front of the camera yourself but looking through fab there are so many creative pics on here and aren’t just a quick selfie and can show personality through their photo style. In my head this made sense but I realised I’ve just rambled on! Even fully clothed, non face pics of yourself can be interesting especially since you’re a photographer and will be able to set the lighting/ background etc. I also have another profession that is photographic in essence but involves me not being able to show my identity. Hopefully you can guess the profession. I have other means of promoting myself and this profile was essentially for me to meet people. I can understand people's scepticism but as mentioned I am more than willing to show my work. I know it's not what people want to hear but my own protection and job security is more important than any shoot. I have actually been meaning to do topless photos of myself with some shadowplay that will black out my face but not got round to it. Self portraiture has never been my thing and I have a load of photos on here to send with messages so I guess that's also a reason for my tardiness. There's hopefully others out there who see the artistic merit in my proposal and have not lost faith in all photographers because of a few bad eggs You do know that the rules say you have to be in any pictures you send, too? A photographer with no photos is not exactly... promising." What rules? | |||
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"Agree with the scepticism you may find on this topic but also looking at your profile why don’t you have pictures on your profile as you keep referencing being a photographer? A lot won’t want to be approached or approach a blank silhouette. I appreciate that you’re looking for models and may not want to be in front of the camera yourself but looking through fab there are so many creative pics on here and aren’t just a quick selfie and can show personality through their photo style. In my head this made sense but I realised I’ve just rambled on! Even fully clothed, non face pics of yourself can be interesting especially since you’re a photographer and will be able to set the lighting/ background etc. I also have another profession that is photographic in essence but involves me not being able to show my identity. Hopefully you can guess the profession. I have other means of promoting myself and this profile was essentially for me to meet people. I can understand people's scepticism but as mentioned I am more than willing to show my work. I know it's not what people want to hear but my own protection and job security is more important than any shoot. I have actually been meaning to do topless photos of myself with some shadowplay that will black out my face but not got round to it. Self portraiture has never been my thing and I have a load of photos on here to send with messages so I guess that's also a reason for my tardiness. There's hopefully others out there who see the artistic merit in my proposal and have not lost faith in all photographers because of a few bad eggs You do know that the rules say you have to be in any pictures you send, too? A photographer with no photos is not exactly... promising. What rules? " The rules of the site | |||
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"Honestly OP. If you want to be an accomplished photographer have some photos. Otherwise you may attract sarcastic responses. I for one would have absolutely no interest in a blank profile let alone someone who is “trading their wares” as a photographer. Your profession and second profession is really up to you and your preferences but if it involves photos then don’t not have any. Just my suggestion. Obvs " Who says I am not an accomplished photographer? I have made a living from it almost all my working life. I am not trading wares I am simply asking if people would be interested. Why would any photographer promote themselves on here? Unless they make their money solely from boudoir or something.... Well that's not me and I would never put my work on here. Especially when I can't see any benefits of doing so. | |||
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"Agree with the scepticism you may find on this topic but also looking at your profile why don’t you have pictures on your profile as you keep referencing being a photographer? A lot won’t want to be approached or approach a blank silhouette. I appreciate that you’re looking for models and may not want to be in front of the camera yourself but looking through fab there are so many creative pics on here and aren’t just a quick selfie and can show personality through their photo style. In my head this made sense but I realised I’ve just rambled on! Even fully clothed, non face pics of yourself can be interesting especially since you’re a photographer and will be able to set the lighting/ background etc. I also have another profession that is photographic in essence but involves me not being able to show my identity. Hopefully you can guess the profession. I have other means of promoting myself and this profile was essentially for me to meet people. I can understand people's scepticism but as mentioned I am more than willing to show my work. I know it's not what people want to hear but my own protection and job security is more important than any shoot. I have actually been meaning to do topless photos of myself with some shadowplay that will black out my face but not got round to it. Self portraiture has never been my thing and I have a load of photos on here to send with messages so I guess that's also a reason for my tardiness. There's hopefully others out there who see the artistic merit in my proposal and have not lost faith in all photographers because of a few bad eggs You do know that the rules say you have to be in any pictures you send, too? A photographer with no photos is not exactly... promising. What rules? The rules of the site " Who said anything about putting photos on here? The models can do what they like with them but I certainly wouldn't put photos of other people on my profile | |||
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"Honestly OP. If you want to be an accomplished photographer have some photos. Otherwise you may attract sarcastic responses. I for one would have absolutely no interest in a blank profile let alone someone who is “trading their wares” as a photographer. Your profession and second profession is really up to you and your preferences but if it involves photos then don’t not have any. Just my suggestion. Obvs Who says I am not an accomplished photographer? I have made a living from it almost all my working life. I am not trading wares I am simply asking if people would be interested. Why would any photographer promote themselves on here? Unless they make their money solely from boudoir or something.... Well that's not me and I would never put my work on here. Especially when I can't see any benefits of doing so. " I have no idea who you are and I’m certainly not saying you’re anything. But you have nothing to go on. Should we just believe your blank profile? And if there are no benefits of advertising on here why are you advertising on here? | |||
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"Oh you cynics. Of course he's a photographer- it says it in his profile. Us have you not seen the beautiful black and white profile picture of him? If I was a woman I'd jump at the chance to pose nude for him, with no concern that I'm not being paid, nor fear that my pics may be plastered all over the Internet. The opportunity of a true professional directing me in my own personal photoshoot would be all the recompense I need. ![]() Ever met a documentary photographer before? Who said anything about nude? In fact, why am I replying? | |||
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"Oh you cynics. Of course he's a photographer- it says it in his profile. Us have you not seen the beautiful black and white profile picture of him? If I was a woman I'd jump at the chance to pose nude for him, with no concern that I'm not being paid, nor fear that my pics may be plastered all over the Internet. The opportunity of a true professional directing me in my own personal photoshoot would be all the recompense I need. ![]() Why are you? | |||
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"Honestly OP. If you want to be an accomplished photographer have some photos. Otherwise you may attract sarcastic responses. I for one would have absolutely no interest in a blank profile let alone someone who is “trading their wares” as a photographer. Your profession and second profession is really up to you and your preferences but if it involves photos then don’t not have any. Just my suggestion. Obvs Who says I am not an accomplished photographer? I have made a living from it almost all my working life. I am not trading wares I am simply asking if people would be interested. Why would any photographer promote themselves on here? Unless they make their money solely from boudoir or something.... Well that's not me and I would never put my work on here. Especially when I can't see any benefits of doing so. I have no idea who you are and I’m certainly not saying you’re anything. But you have nothing to go on. Should we just believe your blank profile? And if there are no benefits of advertising on here why are you advertising on here? " I'm not advertising. There are no sales. I know it's hard for people to trust others but you seeing my appearance doesn't prove anything. You seeing my work and meeting in a public place to discuss ideas would probably be a better way to go about things. I know that there is a lot of unsavoury people on here but have you lost faith in all human kind? I have asked for nothing but people to express their interest. There is no risk. I have offered everything to prove i'm real yet people's only intention is to attack my character or intentions. You would have an idea of who I am if you had messaged expressing interest. I would then show you my work so you know who I am and what I'm about. | |||
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"Honestly OP. If you want to be an accomplished photographer have some photos. Otherwise you may attract sarcastic responses. I for one would have absolutely no interest in a blank profile let alone someone who is “trading their wares” as a photographer. Your profession and second profession is really up to you and your preferences but if it involves photos then don’t not have any. Just my suggestion. Obvs Who says I am not an accomplished photographer? I have made a living from it almost all my working life. I am not trading wares I am simply asking if people would be interested. Why would any photographer promote themselves on here? Unless they make their money solely from boudoir or something.... Well that's not me and I would never put my work on here. Especially when I can't see any benefits of doing so. I have no idea who you are and I’m certainly not saying you’re anything. But you have nothing to go on. Should we just believe your blank profile? And if there are no benefits of advertising on here why are you advertising on here? I'm not advertising. There are no sales. I know it's hard for people to trust others but you seeing my appearance doesn't prove anything. You seeing my work and meeting in a public place to discuss ideas would probably be a better way to go about things. I know that there is a lot of unsavoury people on here but have you lost faith in all human kind? I have asked for nothing but people to express their interest. There is no risk. I have offered everything to prove i'm real yet people's only intention is to attack my character or intentions. You would have an idea of who I am if you had messaged expressing interest. I would then show you my work so you know who I am and what I'm about. " I’ve lost faith in no one. I don’t accept blank profiles as someone I should hang my hat on for anything more than a quick delete. You are extremely defensive for someone who is honest and should be believed. And also. Yes. You are advertising. In a post in the forum. For models. That’s advertising. Wishing you the best of luck with your ventures. Whatever they may be. I’m out ![]() | |||
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"Whilst I know a TFP arrangement is common, this isn't a modelling website, and people on here will likely be wary of ulterior motives (usually from previous experience of people saying all sorts of codswallop to get their hands on others' genitals). You may be better off seeking models on the purple site. " Yep I know. Hence the reason I haven't asked for anything other than to strike up a conversation. My original intention was to go to one of the photo events held at clubs and start from there. I am as much interested in people and their story as I am aesthetics for shooting. I work and act like a photographer in all scenarios. If someone was sceptical, cynical and not willing to trust me after me having seen my work and getting to know me then this would never work anyway. As I said before, if you have lost all trust in photographers and have no interest in enquiring then this obviously isn't for you. I don't intend to exploit anyone but I also understand that's what all would say. Maybe I'm too trusting, maybe I'm approaching this too much like I would any other project or maybe I should have added a price pic before starting this thread to prove I'm a tog ![]() | |||
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"Agree with the scepticism you may find on this topic but also looking at your profile why don’t you have pictures on your profile as you keep referencing being a photographer? A lot won’t want to be approached or approach a blank silhouette. I appreciate that you’re looking for models and may not want to be in front of the camera yourself but looking through fab there are so many creative pics on here and aren’t just a quick selfie and can show personality through their photo style. In my head this made sense but I realised I’ve just rambled on! Even fully clothed, non face pics of yourself can be interesting especially since you’re a photographer and will be able to set the lighting/ background etc. I also have another profession that is photographic in essence but involves me not being able to show my identity. Hopefully you can guess the profession. I have other means of promoting myself and this profile was essentially for me to meet people. I can understand people's scepticism but as mentioned I am more than willing to show my work. I know it's not what people want to hear but my own protection and job security is more important than any shoot. I have actually been meaning to do topless photos of myself with some shadowplay that will black out my face but not got round to it. Self portraiture has never been my thing and I have a load of photos on here to send with messages so I guess that's also a reason for my tardiness. There's hopefully others out there who see the artistic merit in my proposal and have not lost faith in all photographers because of a few bad eggs You do know that the rules say you have to be in any pictures you send, too? A photographer with no photos is not exactly... promising. What rules? The rules of the site Who said anything about putting photos on here? The models can do what they like with them but I certainly wouldn't put photos of other people on my profile" If you send photos via this site, on your profile or otherwise, you need to be in them. So if you want to gain someone's trust that you are who you say you are, you can't do so by any means other than photos of yourself. | |||
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"Oh you cynics. Of course he's a photographer- it says it in his profile. Us have you not seen the beautiful black and white profile picture of him? If I was a woman I'd jump at the chance to pose nude for him, with no concern that I'm not being paid, nor fear that my pics may be plastered all over the Internet. The opportunity of a true professional directing me in my own personal photoshoot would be all the recompense I need. ![]() Not nude. Just a lingerie shoot in an abandoned warehouse. I. Am. In! ![]() | |||
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"Oh you cynics. Of course he's a photographer- it says it in his profile. Us have you not seen the beautiful black and white profile picture of him? If I was a woman I'd jump at the chance to pose nude for him, with no concern that I'm not being paid, nor fear that my pics may be plastered all over the Internet. The opportunity of a true professional directing me in my own personal photoshoot would be all the recompense I need. ![]() ![]() Slut ![]() | |||
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"Whilst I know a TFP arrangement is common, this isn't a modelling website, and people on here will likely be wary of ulterior motives (usually from previous experience of people saying all sorts of codswallop to get their hands on others' genitals). You may be better off seeking models on the purple site. Yep I know. Hence the reason I haven't asked for anything other than to strike up a conversation. My original intention was to go to one of the photo events held at clubs and start from there. I am as much interested in people and their story as I am aesthetics for shooting. I work and act like a photographer in all scenarios. If someone was sceptical, cynical and not willing to trust me after me having seen my work and getting to know me then this would never work anyway. As I said before, if you have lost all trust in photographers and have no interest in enquiring then this obviously isn't for you. I don't intend to exploit anyone but I also understand that's what all would say. Maybe I'm too trusting, maybe I'm approaching this too much like I would any other project or maybe I should have added a price pic before starting this thread to prove I'm a tog ![]() I was actually trying to help by explaining that the somewhat sarcastic replies you were getting may be down to the reasons I suggested. Most people on here won't know of TFP and will think you're one of the many men with a camera that just wants to wank while they're posing in their undercrackers waiting for you to take their best ever profile picture. Personally, I'm not interested because my ex was a photographer and I've got hundreds of pictures of me in lingerie in abandoned buildings (we used to go urbexing). But I wish you luck on your endeavour. | |||
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"Oh you cynics. Of course he's a photographer- it says it in his profile. Us have you not seen the beautiful black and white profile picture of him? If I was a woman I'd jump at the chance to pose nude for him, with no concern that I'm not being paid, nor fear that my pics may be plastered all over the Internet. The opportunity of a true professional directing me in my own personal photoshoot would be all the recompense I need. ![]() ![]() ![]() I know it will be all in the best possible taste... I'd rock a stocking! ![]() | |||
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"Oh you cynics. Of course he's a photographer- it says it in his profile. Us have you not seen the beautiful black and white profile picture of him? If I was a woman I'd jump at the chance to pose nude for him, with no concern that I'm not being paid, nor fear that my pics may be plastered all over the Internet. The opportunity of a true professional directing me in my own personal photoshoot would be all the recompense I need. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Yes you would ![]() | |||
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"Whilst I know a TFP arrangement is common, this isn't a modelling website, and people on here will likely be wary of ulterior motives (usually from previous experience of people saying all sorts of codswallop to get their hands on others' genitals). You may be better off seeking models on the purple site. Yep I know. Hence the reason I haven't asked for anything other than to strike up a conversation. My original intention was to go to one of the photo events held at clubs and start from there. I am as much interested in people and their story as I am aesthetics for shooting. I work and act like a photographer in all scenarios. If someone was sceptical, cynical and not willing to trust me after me having seen my work and getting to know me then this would never work anyway. As I said before, if you have lost all trust in photographers and have no interest in enquiring then this obviously isn't for you. I don't intend to exploit anyone but I also understand that's what all would say. Maybe I'm too trusting, maybe I'm approaching this too much like I would any other project or maybe I should have added a price pic before starting this thread to prove I'm a tog ![]() Yeah I know about tfp but hopefully there are more like you who understand. Yeah there are plenty of serial walkers out there. One of the drawbacks about being around any tog too much is their want for models... unless you of course want the photos. I thank you though for not attacking me though and wish you all the best sifting through the wankers to find someone genuine | |||
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"Agree with the scepticism you may find on this topic but also looking at your profile why don’t you have pictures on your profile as you keep referencing being a photographer? A lot won’t want to be approached or approach a blank silhouette. I appreciate that you’re looking for models and may not want to be in front of the camera yourself but looking through fab there are so many creative pics on here and aren’t just a quick selfie and can show personality through their photo style. In my head this made sense but I realised I’ve just rambled on! Even fully clothed, non face pics of yourself can be interesting especially since you’re a photographer and will be able to set the lighting/ background etc. I also have another profession that is photographic in essence but involves me not being able to show my identity. Hopefully you can guess the profession. I have other means of promoting myself and this profile was essentially for me to meet people. I can understand people's scepticism but as mentioned I am more than willing to show my work. I know it's not what people want to hear but my own protection and job security is more important than any shoot. I have actually been meaning to do topless photos of myself with some shadowplay that will black out my face but not got round to it. Self portraiture has never been my thing and I have a load of photos on here to send with messages so I guess that's also a reason for my tardiness. There's hopefully others out there who see the artistic merit in my proposal and have not lost faith in all photographers because of a few bad eggs" If you are worried about your job and your reputation as a ' photographer' then maybe you shouldn't be on here, women especially need to know who they are meeting to hear you and see you, not just see your work ![]() | |||
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"Surprises me that photographers would say that. Especially as your intention should always be to take good photos. You would think that models can come from anywhere.... I often contact strangers to take photos of them but I guess asking through every other format is acceptable except here. I believe it would be a similar risk as meeting. You make out that there's more risk meeting a stranger for them to take photos than there is meeting them for sex. All i have done is ask if others are interested. I appreciate your opinions but I'll respectfully ignore them. Maybe nothing will come of it but I don't regret asking and won't be explaining myself any further to anyone other than those who have messaged me expressing interest" There have literally been dozens of threads like this and the vast majority have been from people with no public pics or a couple of poorly taken selfies. I can't say whether you've actually had private replies or but but again every thread like this has raised the same questions and the person starting every one of those threads has claimed to have lots of private interest which never seems to balance with the general consensus publicly. You may equate meeting for sex and meeting for a photoshoot but very few people are open to doing either without some reassurance including public evidence of skills. | |||
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"Agree with the scepticism you may find on this topic but also looking at your profile why don’t you have pictures on your profile as you keep referencing being a photographer? A lot won’t want to be approached or approach a blank silhouette. I appreciate that you’re looking for models and may not want to be in front of the camera yourself but looking through fab there are so many creative pics on here and aren’t just a quick selfie and can show personality through their photo style. In my head this made sense but I realised I’ve just rambled on! Even fully clothed, non face pics of yourself can be interesting especially since you’re a photographer and will be able to set the lighting/ background etc. I also have another profession that is photographic in essence but involves me not being able to show my identity. Hopefully you can guess the profession. I have other means of promoting myself and this profile was essentially for me to meet people. I can understand people's scepticism but as mentioned I am more than willing to show my work. I know it's not what people want to hear but my own protection and job security is more important than any shoot. I have actually been meaning to do topless photos of myself with some shadowplay that will black out my face but not got round to it. Self portraiture has never been my thing and I have a load of photos on here to send with messages so I guess that's also a reason for my tardiness. There's hopefully others out there who see the artistic merit in my proposal and have not lost faith in all photographers because of a few bad eggs" There are other folk on here who also have professional lives so it’s not uncommon on here not to want to be identified. I’ve only been identified once on here and that’s because someone had seen a pic I had on here before and I can still show a sense of me on my public profile. You can take pics that don’t actively identify you though, get creative with the photography! But I think most has been covered in this thread but please don’t send your work if it’s of pics of models via messages on here (I believe that’s what the site rules above was referring to) Good luck OP and looking forward to seeing your profile pics updated ![]() | |||
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"I love the optimism of these types ![]() We shouldn't make snap judgments though. What if he clicks with his models? We should see how things develop. | |||
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"Agree with the scepticism you may find on this topic but also looking at your profile why don’t you have pictures on your profile as you keep referencing being a photographer? A lot won’t want to be approached or approach a blank silhouette. I appreciate that you’re looking for models and may not want to be in front of the camera yourself but looking through fab there are so many creative pics on here and aren’t just a quick selfie and can show personality through their photo style. In my head this made sense but I realised I’ve just rambled on! Even fully clothed, non face pics of yourself can be interesting especially since you’re a photographer and will be able to set the lighting/ background etc. I also have another profession that is photographic in essence but involves me not being able to show my identity. Hopefully you can guess the profession. I have other means of promoting myself and this profile was essentially for me to meet people. I can understand people's scepticism but as mentioned I am more than willing to show my work. I know it's not what people want to hear but my own protection and job security is more important than any shoot. I have actually been meaning to do topless photos of myself with some shadowplay that will black out my face but not got round to it. Self portraiture has never been my thing and I have a load of photos on here to send with messages so I guess that's also a reason for my tardiness. There's hopefully others out there who see the artistic merit in my proposal and have not lost faith in all photographers because of a few bad eggsIf you are worried about your job and your reputation as a ' photographer' then maybe you shouldn't be on here, women especially need to know who they are meeting to hear you and see you, not just see your work ![]() yes this one | |||
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"Hey All, Just putting the feelers out for models within the South Wales or west midlands areas. I'm looking to broaden my portfolio a bit as I am mainly a portrait and events photographer. I would also like to test out my new unleashed outdoor lighting kit. I have a few ideas floating around in my head, one being a classy lingerie shoot in an abandoned building and another being a vanity fair group shot. With both location would be key and the second would need a lot of arranging and models who react well to the camera. There's no pressure on this and I would rather strike up a conversation first so we can discuss what my intentions are and what you want to get from any shoots. I can show you my work on request and I feel like I have to say that I'm a photographer first. I am not the sort to try and lure someone to a shoot to take advantage or sleaze over them.... unless you ask me of course. I am an artist and I take my art and profession very seriously. Let me know if interested" Dont think we can add anything, apart from dont take it personally reading your answers you look like you were expecting push back and some of your replies caused you more push back x | |||
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"Agree with the scepticism you may find on this topic but also looking at your profile why don’t you have pictures on your profile as you keep referencing being a photographer? A lot won’t want to be approached or approach a blank silhouette. I appreciate that you’re looking for models and may not want to be in front of the camera yourself but looking through fab there are so many creative pics on here and aren’t just a quick selfie and can show personality through their photo style. In my head this made sense but I realised I’ve just rambled on! Even fully clothed, non face pics of yourself can be interesting especially since you’re a photographer and will be able to set the lighting/ background etc. " Very true, all the photographers I know (all professional) can’t help themselves but constantly take pics and post them all the time! | |||
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"Opinions are like arseholes as everyone has one and most are full of s**t. However, how yours should differ significantly from an arsehole is that it should be thoroughly examined on a regular basis" Fair enough this hasn’t gone they way I imagine you wanted and that must be tough. Kudos to you if this you saying you’ve rethought how your post and your opinions on it have come across as it’s a tough pill to swallow sometimes! ![]() | |||
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"Opinions are like arseholes as everyone has one and most are full of s**t. However, how yours should differ significantly from an arsehole is that it should be thoroughly examined on a regular basis" Correct. This also includes yours. A group of people have told you how you might be perceived and why you might have difficulty. That may be useful in your search for what you're looking for. | |||
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"Opinions are like arseholes as everyone has one and most are full of s**t. However, how yours should differ significantly from an arsehole is that it should be thoroughly examined on a regular basis" Someone you would 100% trust with your pics. ![]() | |||
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"Opinions are like arseholes as everyone has one and most are full of s**t. However, how yours should differ significantly from an arsehole is that it should be thoroughly examined on a regular basis Fair enough this hasn’t gone they way I imagine you wanted and that must be tough. Kudos to you if this you saying you’ve rethought how your post and your opinions on it have come across as it’s a tough pill to swallow sometimes! ![]() How I expected.... I have received messages from interested parties so was worth it. I don't mind that people think their opinion is absolute, that's what always happens in the forums. I'm a creative and think different to most so I don't mind the dismissive attitudes of people who don't trust my intentions. I harbour no illfeeling to anyone on here and hope that me defending myself against the forum onslaught hasn't offended anyone. At the end of the day whether anything comes of it or not, I'm still thankful I get to what I love everyday. Not everyone can say that | |||
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"I’ve noticed on threads like this there’s *always* a point where the aggrieved thread starter says ‘Well your opinions don’t bother me because I’ve had plenty of offers in private messages’. I wonder how many times it’s the truth?" All the time, of course! You don't mean people lie on here? ![]() | |||
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"I’ve noticed on threads like this there’s *always* a point where the aggrieved thread starter says ‘Well your opinions don’t bother me because I’ve had plenty of offers in private messages’. I wonder how many times it’s the truth?" Yep, exactly this ![]() | |||
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"I’ve noticed on threads like this there’s *always* a point where the aggrieved thread starter says ‘Well your opinions don’t bother me because I’ve had plenty of offers in private messages’. I wonder how many times it’s the truth?" You can count it on fingers of no hands | |||
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"I’ve noticed on threads like this there’s *always* a point where the aggrieved thread starter says ‘Well your opinions don’t bother me because I’ve had plenty of offers in private messages’. I wonder how many times it’s the truth?" You don't know her, she goes to a different school... | |||
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"OP if you're a professional tog you'll be aware of the many sites you can source models for TFP arrangements. There's no end. Asking on a swinging site will always be recieved with cynicism, especially when you comment along the lines of 'no play unless you ask me'. There are several pro togs on here. Always have been. None scout for models in the forums, in status updates or PM's. Because they don't have to. They have contacts. They have access to willing volunteers. They don't mix business with pleasure, because at the end of the day that's what you're looking to do. It's no different to plumbers, sparkies and other tradies offering work for a blowjob. A" Couldn't have put it better ![]() | |||
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"OP if you're a professional tog you'll be aware of the many sites you can source models for TFP arrangements. There's no end. Asking on a swinging site will always be recieved with cynicism, especially when you comment along the lines of 'no play unless you ask me'. There are several pro togs on here. Always have been. None scout for models in the forums, in status updates or PM's. Because they don't have to. They have contacts. They have access to willing volunteers. They don't mix business with pleasure, because at the end of the day that's what you're looking to do. It's no different to plumbers, sparkies and other tradies offering work for a blowjob. A" But the op is very open and honest saying what he wants to do, asked the potential models to contact him with regards to what they are comfortable with a d even said he won't be being a sleazy photographer. It takes time to build a reputation, it takes time to build contacts, don't take his legs from under him just as he's finding his feet | |||
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"OP if you're a professional tog you'll be aware of the many sites you can source models for TFP arrangements. There's no end. Asking on a swinging site will always be recieved with cynicism, especially when you comment along the lines of 'no play unless you ask me'. There are several pro togs on here. Always have been. None scout for models in the forums, in status updates or PM's. Because they don't have to. They have contacts. They have access to willing volunteers. They don't mix business with pleasure, because at the end of the day that's what you're looking to do. It's no different to plumbers, sparkies and other tradies offering work for a blowjob. A But the op is very open and honest saying what he wants to do, asked the potential models to contact him with regards to what they are comfortable with a d even said he won't be being a sleazy photographer. It takes time to build a reputation, it takes time to build contacts, don't take his legs from under him just as he's finding his feet " "I am not the sort to try and lure someone to a shoot to take advantage or sleaze over them.... unless you ask me of course. " Not professional. A | |||
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"OP if you're a professional tog you'll be aware of the many sites you can source models for TFP arrangements. There's no end. Asking on a swinging site will always be recieved with cynicism, especially when you comment along the lines of 'no play unless you ask me'. There are several pro togs on here. Always have been. None scout for models in the forums, in status updates or PM's. Because they don't have to. They have contacts. They have access to willing volunteers. They don't mix business with pleasure, because at the end of the day that's what you're looking to do. It's no different to plumbers, sparkies and other tradies offering work for a blowjob. A But the op is very open and honest saying what he wants to do, asked the potential models to contact him with regards to what they are comfortable with a d even said he won't be being a sleazy photographer. It takes time to build a reputation, it takes time to build contacts, don't take his legs from under him just as he's finding his feet " With respect, words are cheap and most of us have heard this story a few times or more. (Similarly, although unrelated professional services, when I said I wasn't meeting due to injury a long time ago, I encountered many people who promised to cure me. Their cocks hoped to be involved) He's been given significant clues as to the obstacles he might face in finding what he's looking for here, as well as how he might overcome them. | |||
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"OP if you're a professional tog you'll be aware of the many sites you can source models for TFP arrangements. There's no end. Asking on a swinging site will always be recieved with cynicism, especially when you comment along the lines of 'no play unless you ask me'. There are several pro togs on here. Always have been. None scout for models in the forums, in status updates or PM's. Because they don't have to. They have contacts. They have access to willing volunteers. They don't mix business with pleasure, because at the end of the day that's what you're looking to do. It's no different to plumbers, sparkies and other tradies offering work for a blowjob. A But the op is very open and honest saying what he wants to do, asked the potential models to contact him with regards to what they are comfortable with a d even said he won't be being a sleazy photographer. It takes time to build a reputation, it takes time to build contacts, don't take his legs from under him just as he's finding his feet " That's very generous. I've no reason to doubt the OP, but saying and doing are very different. Saying it's not sleazy but also implying it could be more sexual than professional could at least suggest it's a bit sleazy, even if not the intention. If I were a woman, I don't think I'd have been racing to sign up. Others have made the point, but it's also odd for a professional photographer not to be able to find a single picture he likes enough to display on a profile that doesn't reveal his identity (a concern lots of people share). Surely the best way to demonstrate how good a photographer you are is to show a pic...they paint a thousand words and all that... | |||
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"OP if you're a professional tog you'll be aware of the many sites you can source models for TFP arrangements. There's no end. Asking on a swinging site will always be recieved with cynicism, especially when you comment along the lines of 'no play unless you ask me'. There are several pro togs on here. Always have been. None scout for models in the forums, in status updates or PM's. Because they don't have to. They have contacts. They have access to willing volunteers. They don't mix business with pleasure, because at the end of the day that's what you're looking to do. It's no different to plumbers, sparkies and other tradies offering work for a blowjob. A But the op is very open and honest saying what he wants to do, asked the potential models to contact him with regards to what they are comfortable with a d even said he won't be being a sleazy photographer. It takes time to build a reputation, it takes time to build contacts, don't take his legs from under him just as he's finding his feet That's very generous. I've no reason to doubt the OP, but saying and doing are very different. Saying it's not sleazy but also implying it could be more sexual than professional could at least suggest it's a bit sleazy, even if not the intention. If I were a woman, I don't think I'd have been racing to sign up. Others have made the point, but it's also odd for a professional photographer not to be able to find a single picture he likes enough to display on a profile that doesn't reveal his identity (a concern lots of people share). Surely the best way to demonstrate how good a photographer you are is to show a pic...they paint a thousand words and all that..." Well give him the chance to prove himself If he's as his word, we as a group have added a trusted photographer into our group, if it went the other way we can get the tar and feathers out. Untill then give the bloke the benefit of doubt | |||
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"OP if you're a professional tog you'll be aware of the many sites you can source models for TFP arrangements. There's no end. Asking on a swinging site will always be recieved with cynicism, especially when you comment along the lines of 'no play unless you ask me'. There are several pro togs on here. Always have been. None scout for models in the forums, in status updates or PM's. Because they don't have to. They have contacts. They have access to willing volunteers. They don't mix business with pleasure, because at the end of the day that's what you're looking to do. It's no different to plumbers, sparkies and other tradies offering work for a blowjob. A But the op is very open and honest saying what he wants to do, asked the potential models to contact him with regards to what they are comfortable with a d even said he won't be being a sleazy photographer. It takes time to build a reputation, it takes time to build contacts, don't take his legs from under him just as he's finding his feet That's very generous. I've no reason to doubt the OP, but saying and doing are very different. Saying it's not sleazy but also implying it could be more sexual than professional could at least suggest it's a bit sleazy, even if not the intention. If I were a woman, I don't think I'd have been racing to sign up. Others have made the point, but it's also odd for a professional photographer not to be able to find a single picture he likes enough to display on a profile that doesn't reveal his identity (a concern lots of people share). Surely the best way to demonstrate how good a photographer you are is to show a pic...they paint a thousand words and all that... Well give him the chance to prove himself If he's as his word, we as a group have added a trusted photographer into our group, if it went the other way we can get the tar and feathers out. Untill then give the bloke the benefit of doubt" He's got as much of a chance to upload a pic as anyone else! That was my point; he must have loads of good pics which would be a very obvious demonstration of his skill! It might help him in his quest! More power to him, but all I was saying was I can understand why people would be sceptical... | |||
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"Lots of assumptions going on here. If you're not interested then don't message. Simple. I asked on here as I thought people would like the opportunity to have professional images for free. The people that have messaged haven't confirmed anything yet just opened up a dialogue. I've not used modelling websites very often as I am not an advertising photographer. There are many types of photographers who specialise in different areas. I was a photojournalist then went into events and commercial when pj died. I know this site can make people bitter but i think most of you need more faith in their brothers and sisters. We are as good as we are bad. Being a male on here is hard so I understand why people blag. I also understand why the blagging has caused scepticism. I have offered to show my work to interested parties. I have images of myself on here and am willing to send them on request. I am a member of a trade association and would be willing to show proof of that. I would also like to meet first in a public place so I can discuss ideas and for the model's safety. As I said previously I don't see more risk being involved than any other meet. Cool your jets folks" You don't have to be a portrait tog to use sites such as purple port. Nor does specialising in one area prevent the posting of photos of yourself on here. As I said before. There are, and have always been, several professional togs on Fab. All have visible work on their profiles. None seek models via here. There was a guy looking for all expenses paid company for a holiday earlier this week. There are always threads started by plumbers, electricians, decorators, mechanics and all manner of 'professionals' seeking sex in return for work done. If you really believe this is the way to go about finding someone to pose for you then crack on. There are far easier, better and safer ways to find what you seek through normal channels. Unless you're still hoping for 'extras'....... A | |||
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"I’ve noticed on threads like this there’s *always* a point where the aggrieved thread starter says ‘Well your opinions don’t bother me because I’ve had plenty of offers in private messages’. I wonder how many times it’s the truth?" Obviously when we start seeing all the verifications of their page rolling in about his professional photography skills we will have egg on our faces ![]() | |||
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"I’ve noticed on threads like this there’s *always* a point where the aggrieved thread starter says ‘Well your opinions don’t bother me because I’ve had plenty of offers in private messages’. I wonder how many times it’s the truth? Obviously when we start seeing all the verifications of their page rolling in about his professional photography skills we will have egg on our faces ![]() Insanity - doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results K | |||
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