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"Anyone who spouts nonsense.. racism, homophobia, hateful and damaging speech. Or just people being arseholes in general. But then again I only truly respect people that have earned it, so I wouldn't associate with people like that anyway." 
I'm ambivalent to most people generally. I have huge respect for some due to their opinions and actions, but it's perfectly possible to lose respect for someone purely down to one comment or deed.
And that's in real life and on here.
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"Sure anyone expressing ugly views. Also conspiracy theorists." Agree completley with you on people expressing ugly views, too many nasty people in the world But why the conspiracy theorists ? Do you believe everything a government tells you | |||
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"Anyone who spouts nonsense.. racism, homophobia, hateful and damaging speech. Or just people being arseholes in general. But then again I only truly respect people that have earned it, so I wouldn't associate with people like that anyway." I grant ordinary people the benefit of the doubt, which they lose under those circumstances and others - including Covid denialism/antivax views. I suppose I see benefit of the doubt as a small amount of respect I grant them. (Celebrities can get into negative respect from me not caring - but then so can ordinary people  ) | |||
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"Sure anyone expressing ugly views. Also conspiracy theorists. Agree completley with you on people expressing ugly views, too many nasty people in the world But why the conspiracy theorists ? Do you believe everything a government tells you " Because I recognise shades of grey - officials can be less than trustworthy without falling into convoluted contradictory wank fantasy. | |||
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"To further expand on who I meant was, adele and nadal about their views about covid, there are others as well." Might be an odd comparison but elite sports figures and celebrities are a bit like race horses, they can be great at one thing and morons in every other regard. The other thing is parasocial relationships are different from listening to someone IRL. | |||
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"Many people I have come across during my life. Some friends, actors, medical staff etc etc "Also, a Dr of whom I had very good treatments with over many years as a patient but doesn't seem to care any more. | |||
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"Yes of course. I get pretty disappointed in people for offensive views, inaction, and occasionally friendship choices. In terms of celebs I am often most disappointed by abusers or artists that remain cool/ working with abusers. " Some of the tributes to Tina Turner recently were galling  | |||
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"Sure anyone expressing ugly views. Also conspiracy theorists. Agree completley with you on people expressing ugly views, too many nasty people in the world But why the conspiracy theorists ? Do you believe everything a government tells you " Probably the clue is in the word 'conspiracy' - take for instance: the faked moon landing; the shadowy elite; the lizard people; the 9/11 theorists; etc. Don't think these have anything to do with what a government says, rather they seem to be promoted by people who have their own agenda, such as QAnon, Trump, David Icke, Piers Corbyn or... Clearly governments are not always trustworthy, you just need to look at the slippery lot we have in power at the moment, they avoid answering questions truthfully and have shown themselves to be corrupt, self-seeking, xenophobic toe-rags. Other then that, naturally I have the highest esteem for the government and conspiracy theorists.  | |||
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It would only be regarding friends, whether they be close or social. Life is too short to put up with someone who does something I consider as toxic.
I'm very happy with my morals, ethics and values and prefer to just cut them out from any contact, you do you and I'll do me is the path I would choose | |||
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"Sure anyone expressing ugly views. Also conspiracy theorists. Agree completley with you on people expressing ugly views, too many nasty people in the world But why the conspiracy theorists ? Do you believe everything a government tells you Probably the clue is in the word 'conspiracy' - take for instance: the faked moon landing; the shadowy elite; the lizard people; the 9/11 theorists; etc. Don't think these have anything to do with what a government says, rather they seem to be promoted by people who have their own agenda, such as QAnon, Trump, David Icke, Piers Corbyn or... Clearly governments are not always trustworthy, you just need to look at the slippery lot we have in power at the moment, they avoid answering questions truthfully and have shown themselves to be corrupt, self-seeking, xenophobic toe-rags. Other then that, naturally I have the highest esteem for the government and conspiracy theorists. "I'm of the view that the conspiracy theory fanfic gets in the way of recognising the actual failures and/or crimes of the government. "They're making us wear masks to destroy our humanity" is more emotionally satisfying and wank worthy than "masks remind us there's a risk, and it might make people want to spend less money. Won't somebody think of the profits  " | |||
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"Rock musicians who were my heroes but chose the drink/drugs lifestyle where it ended their lives. Selfish and stupid." Yes, not good and you are right there, it is that too. | |||
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"Good morning Shag
It would only be regarding friends, whether they be close or social. Life is too short to put up with someone who does something I consider as toxic.
I'm very happy with my morals, ethics and values and prefer to just cut them out from any contact, you do you and I'll do me is the path I would choose "Morning comtessa. I see yes, just the friends there and that you say there, you do you and I will do me, is a good motto to follow as well | |||
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"Idiots that blame the small boat problem and claim there patriotic Nope entitled racist fucktards is what you are ." | |||
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"I'm noticing a pattern. How easily divided we are by viewpoints. Creating such a divide changes nothing in opinion or viewpoints. Talking them through can create a much bigger and more positive result. Things will never change when we choose divide, to take the high horse, to pass blame. Talk, talk, talk, talk and talk some more. " Wedge issues are as old as time. They're effective and difficult to counter. Am I being undemocratic or illiberal when I don't entertain someones beliefs. Am i obliged to take someones belief in the great replacement theory as valid and worthy of consideration. | |||
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"I'm noticing a pattern. How easily divided we are by viewpoints. Creating such a divide changes nothing in opinion or viewpoints. Talking them through can create a much bigger and more positive result. Things will never change when we choose divide, to take the high horse, to pass blame. Talk, talk, talk, talk and talk some more. Wedge issues are as old as time. They're effective and difficult to counter. Am I being undemocratic or illiberal when I don't entertain someones beliefs. Am i obliged to take someones belief in the great replacement theory as valid and worthy of consideration." People seem to like divide. Much of society are capable and often do have a shitty attitude or opinion. Way too often pointing fingers at other people's viewpoints, diminishing them in order to feel better, to deflect from our own faults/toxicities and the likes. We will keep fighting amongst ourselves, targeting certain issues to focus on, almost like a buzzword, whilst ignoring other valid issues. One example .... Toxic masculinity is a hot topic and often wrongfully used. Yet, it seems we're not nearly ready to talk about toxic femininity. If we want change, we need to stop looking for differences and seek similarities. | |||
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"Rock musicians who were my heroes but chose the drink/drugs lifestyle where it ended their lives. Selfish and stupid." I have no issues with people who ruin their own lives, but when you are in a position that kids idolise you, you should not promote a lifestyle that could ruin their lives too.
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"Standby for all the right-on,non judgemental(total lie) ,"everyone is amazing" clowns forming a utopian queue of shit spouting #bekind morons." Why don't you say what you really feel? | |||
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""I'm a sigma male." Instant absolute removal of any chance of interest." I’ve never even heard of this… on my way to urban dictionary! | |||
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""I'm a sigma male." Instant absolute removal of any chance of interest. I’ve never even heard of this… on my way to urban dictionary!" Oh my! I can see why | |||
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"I'm noticing a pattern. How easily divided we are by viewpoints. Creating such a divide changes nothing in opinion or viewpoints. Talking them through can create a much bigger and more positive result. Things will never change when we choose divide, to take the high horse, to pass blame. Talk, talk, talk, talk and talk some more. " So we're just supposed to go along to get along with everyone's views, no matter how inane, selfish, or dangerous? Nah. Fuck that. | |||
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"I'm noticing a pattern. How easily divided we are by viewpoints. Creating such a divide changes nothing in opinion or viewpoints. Talking them through can create a much bigger and more positive result. Things will never change when we choose divide, to take the high horse, to pass blame. Talk, talk, talk, talk and talk some more. So we're just supposed to go along to get along with everyone's views, no matter how inane, selfish, or dangerous? Nah. Fuck that." Should we ignore that we might agree on 80% of things and only find 20% of their beliefs to be loathsome? Do you know this joke by Emo Phillips? Once I saw this guy on a bridge about to jump. I said, “Don’t do it!” He said, “Nobody loves me.” I said, “God loves you. Do you believe in God?” He said, “Yes.” I said, “Are you a Christian or a Jew?” He said, “A Christian.” I said, “Me, too! Protestant or Catholic?” He said, “Protestant.” I said, “Me, too! What franchise?” He said, “Baptist.” I said, “Me, too! Northern Baptist or Southern Baptist?” He said, “Northern Baptist.” I said, “Me, too! Northern Conservative Baptist or Northern Liberal Baptist?” He said, “Northern Conservative Baptist.” I said, “Me, too! Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region, or Northern Conservative Baptist Eastern Region?” He said, “Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region.” I said, “Me, too!” Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1879, or Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912?” He said, “Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912.” I said, “Die, heretic!” And I pushed him over. | |||
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"I'm noticing a pattern. How easily divided we are by viewpoints. Creating such a divide changes nothing in opinion or viewpoints. Talking them through can create a much bigger and more positive result. Things will never change when we choose divide, to take the high horse, to pass blame. Talk, talk, talk, talk and talk some more. So we're just supposed to go along to get along with everyone's views, no matter how inane, selfish, or dangerous? Nah. Fuck that. Should we ignore that we might agree on 80% of things and only find 20% of their beliefs to be loathsome? Do you know this joke by Emo Phillips? (Insert joke here) " Well aware of the joke. Depends on the 20%. There are some things where I'm happy to agree to disagree. There are some things that are irreconcilable differences. This push to make people agree on everything because agreeing is nice is bollocks. | |||
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"I'm noticing a pattern. How easily divided we are by viewpoints. Creating such a divide changes nothing in opinion or viewpoints. Talking them through can create a much bigger and more positive result. Things will never change when we choose divide, to take the high horse, to pass blame. Talk, talk, talk, talk and talk some more. So we're just supposed to go along to get along with everyone's views, no matter how inane, selfish, or dangerous? Nah. Fuck that. Should we ignore that we might agree on 80% of things and only find 20% of their beliefs to be loathsome? Do you know this joke by Emo Phillips? (Insert joke here) Well aware of the joke. Depends on the 20%. There are some things where I'm happy to agree to disagree. There are some things that are irreconcilable differences. This push to make people agree on everything because agreeing is nice is bollocks. " I agree with you that tolerance is double edged. But what do you do and how we deal with those opinions and beliefs that we find unacceptable? | |||
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"I'm noticing a pattern. How easily divided we are by viewpoints. Creating such a divide changes nothing in opinion or viewpoints. Talking them through can create a much bigger and more positive result. Things will never change when we choose divide, to take the high horse, to pass blame. Talk, talk, talk, talk and talk some more. So we're just supposed to go along to get along with everyone's views, no matter how inane, selfish, or dangerous? Nah. Fuck that. Should we ignore that we might agree on 80% of things and only find 20% of their beliefs to be loathsome? Do you know this joke by Emo Phillips? (Insert joke here) Well aware of the joke. Depends on the 20%. There are some things where I'm happy to agree to disagree. There are some things that are irreconcilable differences. This push to make people agree on everything because agreeing is nice is bollocks. I agree with you that tolerance is double edged. But what do you do and how we deal with those opinions and beliefs that we find unacceptable?" I don't know. I'm trying to find out. But I feel like the paradox of tolerance is used against us. There are some things I will not tolerate, cannot, not even to agree to disagree, and maintain any sense of morality and humanity. | |||
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"I'm noticing a pattern. How easily divided we are by viewpoints. Creating such a divide changes nothing in opinion or viewpoints. Talking them through can create a much bigger and more positive result. Things will never change when we choose divide, to take the high horse, to pass blame. Talk, talk, talk, talk and talk some more. So we're just supposed to go along to get along with everyone's views, no matter how inane, selfish, or dangerous? Nah. Fuck that. Should we ignore that we might agree on 80% of things and only find 20% of their beliefs to be loathsome? Do you know this joke by Emo Phillips? (Insert joke here) Well aware of the joke. Depends on the 20%. There are some things where I'm happy to agree to disagree. There are some things that are irreconcilable differences. This push to make people agree on everything because agreeing is nice is bollocks. I agree with you that tolerance is double edged. But what do you do and how we deal with those opinions and beliefs that we find unacceptable? I don't know. I'm trying to find out. But I feel like the paradox of tolerance is used against us. There are some things I will not tolerate, cannot, not even to agree to disagree, and maintain any sense of morality and humanity." I get what you're saying but without engagement what do we have. A man from N. Ireland said 'you don't make peace with your friends" But it's not easy to deal with the effects of wedge issues, propaganda and disinformation. | |||
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"I'm noticing a pattern. How easily divided we are by viewpoints. Creating such a divide changes nothing in opinion or viewpoints. Talking them through can create a much bigger and more positive result. Things will never change when we choose divide, to take the high horse, to pass blame. Talk, talk, talk, talk and talk some more. So we're just supposed to go along to get along with everyone's views, no matter how inane, selfish, or dangerous? Nah. Fuck that. Should we ignore that we might agree on 80% of things and only find 20% of their beliefs to be loathsome? Do you know this joke by Emo Phillips? (Insert joke here) Well aware of the joke. Depends on the 20%. There are some things where I'm happy to agree to disagree. There are some things that are irreconcilable differences. This push to make people agree on everything because agreeing is nice is bollocks. I agree with you that tolerance is double edged. But what do you do and how we deal with those opinions and beliefs that we find unacceptable? I don't know. I'm trying to find out. But I feel like the paradox of tolerance is used against us. There are some things I will not tolerate, cannot, not even to agree to disagree, and maintain any sense of morality and humanity. I get what you're saying but without engagement what do we have. A man from N. Ireland said 'you don't make peace with your friends" But it's not easy to deal with the effects of wedge issues, propaganda and disinformation." Indeed. It's something I'm actively working on, but I'm also aware I have lines I absolutely will not cross. (I may - being mindful of my needs too - engage with people across that line. But I won't make common cause with them. Not even if we agree on 80% of issues. Not even 95%) | |||
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"Yeah. Sadly people I thought were quite bright, then voted Brexit!" Brexit, Russia, Covid, climate - I'm starting to think human extinction will be a blessing | |||
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"Yeah. Sadly people I thought were quite bright, then voted Brexit! Brexit, Russia, Covid, climate - I'm starting to think human extinction will be a blessing "I'm glad that I am not in my childrens' generation - I feel really sorry for them and the mess that they have inherited from us. | |||
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"Yeah. Sadly people I thought were quite bright, then voted Brexit! Brexit, Russia, Covid, climate - I'm starting to think human extinction will be a blessing
I'm glad that I am not in my childrens' generation - I feel really sorry for them and the mess that they have inherited from us."I'm glad that I never felt the need to have children. I would not inflict this world upon anyone, let alone someone I love. | |||
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"Yeah. Sadly people I thought were quite bright, then voted Brexit! Brexit, Russia, Covid, climate - I'm starting to think human extinction will be a blessing
I'm glad that I am not in my childrens' generation - I feel really sorry for them and the mess that they have inherited from us.
I'm glad that I never felt the need to have children. I would not inflict this world upon anyone, let alone someone I love."That's my one regret, not my children but the worry I have watching them grow up in this current climate. It's broken, seriously broken, divided into many pieces, hateful, a truly lost society. I feel it will implode sooner than we realise. | |||
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"Yeah. Sadly people I thought were quite bright, then voted Brexit!" https://youtu.be/ZRc0by2vZ7k You’ll enjoy this 46 second clip | |||
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"Yeah. Sadly people I thought were quite bright, then voted Brexit! Brexit, Russia, Covid, climate - I'm starting to think human extinction will be a blessing
I'm glad that I am not in my childrens' generation - I feel really sorry for them and the mess that they have inherited from us.
I'm glad that I never felt the need to have children. I would not inflict this world upon anyone, let alone someone I love.
That's my one regret, not my children but the worry I have watching them grow up in this current climate.
It's broken, seriously broken, divided into many pieces, hateful, a truly lost society.
I feel it will implode sooner than we realise. "I fear that it won't implode soon enough. The sooner it implodes the less fucked up it'll be to reconstruct. I hope it won't be too late. | |||
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"Why can't singers or tennis players have an opinion? I think that it can have a good influence e.g. Taylor Swift speaking out against whoever it was that wanted to curb women's rights. " She put it up to Spotify as well , told them she'd withdraw her catalogue of songs if Spotify didn't pay the lesser known musicians who were on Spotify as well.. absolutely brilliant..she's with it.. | |||
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"My apologies OP, I didn't mean to hijack, your thread triggered my thinking.
I'll stay away, but happy for anyone to respond to me regarding this, via message to avoid turning this interesting thread. "That is ok and it is good that it triggered your thinking as well | |||
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"Individuals are a complicated mix of good and bad if I know someone well they'd have to do something really awful for me to instantly lose all respect for them but it might happen over time. When it comes to public figures and celebrities I'm not sure I have respect for many in the first place" That is good and yes, individuals are a complicated mix of that as well | |||
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"People I have lost respect for instantly have mostly been people I don’t know well. Others it has taken a little time as when I do that’s it for me Marc" I see yes and sometimes it is the ones one dont know so well too. | |||
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