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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Right this is from the IOSH with regard to snow removal!

Not a single case! Not one, nada, nilch, wala. Etc!

“It’s a very small ‘theoretical risk’, and I stress ‘theoretical’, that if you clear paths outside your property and do it really badly, maliciously or carelessly, then there’s a theoretical risk that someone could sue you. However, somebody would have to prove that you did it with malicious intent. But we’ve done some research and we haven’t been able to identity a single case where anyone has been sued after clearing snow and ice away from their footpath in front of their home or their business.

“There’s a little bit of media mis-building going on here and obviously crazy health and safety stories sell newspapers. I recognise that health and safety has a bit of a poor reputation at the moment, but our advice to businesses and homeowners is that if you’re able to clear the paths outside your property then go ahead. We put out a statement to newspapers to explain this and it’s on our website.

“This is the coldest spell we’ve had for 30 years and we all need to be good neighbours. There are lots of things we can do – we can grit our paths and driveways around our properties. If you’re a business, think about your staff and whether they really need to travel to work, could they work from home, or work flexible or reduced hours. If you’ve got people working outdoors make sure they have warm clothing, take regular breaks, drink hot drinks, and that they are visible. A total of 27 people are said to have died in the last few weeks during this cold snap, so we should be focusing on the real risks, not the theoretical risks that someone might sue us if we get it wrong.”

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

Ah good sense at last!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ah, so that would explain why in Canada, you actually get fined by the Local Authority if you DON'T clear the pathway outside your property..

Sense finally....

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By *ot - CoupleCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow


"Right this is from the IOSH with regard to snow removal!

Not a single case! Not one, nada, nilch, wala. Etc!

“It’s a very small ‘theoretical risk’, and I stress ‘theoretical’, that if you clear paths outside your property and do it really badly, maliciously or carelessly, then there’s a theoretical risk that someone could sue you. However, somebody would have to prove that you did it with malicious intent. But we’ve done some research and we haven’t been able to identity a single case where anyone has been sued after clearing snow and ice away from their footpath in front of their home or their business.

“There’s a little bit of media mis-building going on here and obviously crazy health and safety stories sell newspapers. I recognise that health and safety has a bit of a poor reputation at the moment, but our advice to businesses and homeowners is that if you’re able to clear the paths outside your property then go ahead. We put out a statement to newspapers to explain this and it’s on our website.

“This is the coldest spell we’ve had for 30 years and we all need to be good neighbours. There are lots of things we can do – we can grit our paths and driveways around our properties. If you’re a business, think about your staff and whether they really need to travel to work, could they work from home, or work flexible or reduced hours. If you’ve got people working outdoors make sure they have warm clothing, take regular breaks, drink hot drinks, and that they are visible. A total of 27 people are said to have died in the last few weeks during this cold snap, so we should be focusing on the real risks, not the theoretical risks that someone might sue us if we get it wrong.”"

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich


"Ah, so that would explain why in Canada, you actually get fined by the Local Authority if you DON'T clear the pathway outside your property..

Sense finally....

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And Germany when I lived there.

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By *ctavius StuntMan
over a year ago

london


"Ah, so that would explain why in Canada, you actually get fined by the Local Authority if you DON'T clear the pathway outside your property..

Sense finally....

And Germany when I lived there.

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This is covered by tort law. And malicious intent would have to be shown.

I remember as a young kid in the 60's that everyone pretty much came out and cleared the street directly in front of their house. Consequently the whole street was cleared not just in my rd but all the surrounding rds to.

I feel very sorry for elderly people, for them trying to get out to buy food is in this situation potentially life threatening.

Im not in favour of more laws, we already have thousands of totally unecessary ones, but i would be in favour of this. It seems we live in a world where we need law and legislation for common sense and kindness.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Ah, so that would explain why in Canada, you actually get fined by the Local Authority if you DON'T clear the pathway outside your property..

Sense finally....

"

My homeland!

To be honest, people don't clear due to the threat of a fine, they just do it. It's ingrained in us as children when you get handed the snow shovel and sent outside to clear the drive, path and surrounding areas

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge


"Ah, so that would explain why in Canada, you actually get fined by the Local Authority if you DON'T clear the pathway outside your property..

Sense finally....

And Germany when I lived there.

"

I used to travel to Leipzig regularly as I had family there. They lived in an apartment (there are lots of tenement-style blocks) and none of the pavements were cleared - it was lethal! In those areas who would be responsible? There were entire roads of these tenements - hundreds of tenants.

In a single house I would understand, but no one was ever prosecuted in all the years I was visiting - and they got some serious snow there - 4 feet of it was not unheard of.

One small village in Bavaria where I spent a New Year was so buried in snow they had dumper trucks transporting it out into the country. It would have been impossible for private home owners to clear the snow - there was no where to put it!

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