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"I can't stand it. I find it cringe-inducing and creates unrealistic expectations for men and women. It can be toxic." It absolutely can be toxic. It seems to be escalating in its toxicity. | |||
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"Nah, it’s toxic stuff and never catered to anything I can find enjoyable, my own mind gives me better and more tailored scenarios to get off to, plus let’s my mind wonder and gives me ideas to bring to a fwb to play out in real time which always ends up more fun "  | |||
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"I wish there was more porn for "extreme" stuff (gangbangs etc) that wasn't so blatantly misogynistic." How would the scene be set? Genuinely interested on how that aspect could work. There are women porn producers but probably less than men.  | |||
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"I wish there was more porn for "extreme" stuff (gangbangs etc) that wasn't so blatantly misogynistic." From my observations a true gang bang by its very nature is misogynistic. I'm talking at the very least a ratio of 5 men to one woman. I've never seen a hint of eroticism with a true gang bang, just the women being used. I know some will say the women are in control, but that's just an illusion methinks. Frank | |||
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"I wish there was more porn for "extreme" stuff (gangbangs etc) that wasn't so blatantly misogynistic. From my observations a true gang bang by its very nature is misogynistic. I'm talking at the very least a ratio of 5 men to one woman. I've never seen a hint of eroticism with a true gang bang, just the women being used. I know some will say the women are in control, but that's just an illusion methinks. Frank" How is it mysogynistic when the woman is wanting it? Mysogyny is to do with hate?! | |||
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"I wish there was more porn for "extreme" stuff (gangbangs etc) that wasn't so blatantly misogynistic. From my observations a true gang bang by its very nature is misogynistic. I'm talking at the very least a ratio of 5 men to one woman. I've never seen a hint of eroticism with a true gang bang, just the women being used. I know some will say the women are in control, but that's just an illusion methinks. Frank How is it mysogynistic when the woman is wanting it? Mysogyny is to do with hate?!" Is this question also aimed at the female poster who brought up misogyny? In answer to your question, yes, the woman wants it, but what is in the hearts and minds of the blokes giving it to her? Not pleasant from what I've seen and heard first hand. Frank | |||
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"I think there's a big difference between vintage porn and the modern stuff, the modern is much more aggressive and sometimes violent. Where as the older stuff has story lines and the women are enjoying it more... " This. I like porn when everyone looks like they are enjoying it, what ever is going on. Positions for camera angle/ visibility that don't biologically hit any nerve endings, aggression/ hostility for the sake of it or where someone is obviously not into it (just working), & fake orgasm banshee wailing, are my pet peeves. | |||
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"I wish there was more porn for "extreme" stuff (gangbangs etc) that wasn't so blatantly misogynistic. From my observations a true gang bang by its very nature is misogynistic. I'm talking at the very least a ratio of 5 men to one woman. I've never seen a hint of eroticism with a true gang bang, just the women being used. I know some will say the women are in control, but that's just an illusion methinks. Frank How is it mysogynistic when the woman is wanting it? Mysogyny is to do with hate?! Is this question also aimed at the female poster who brought up misogyny? In answer to your question, yes, the woman wants it, but what is in the hearts and minds of the blokes giving it to her? Not pleasant from what I've seen and heard first hand. Frank" This is what I'm wondering really. The woman may feel empowered by it and totally in charge and consensual. But the men may have different thoughts. Not sure how that can be conveyed via video. | |||
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 then turn it off all shady, like get that filth off my phone 
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"I wish there was more porn for "extreme" stuff (gangbangs etc) that wasn't so blatantly misogynistic. From my observations a true gang bang by its very nature is misogynistic. I'm talking at the very least a ratio of 5 men to one woman. I've never seen a hint of eroticism with a true gang bang, just the women being used. I know some will say the women are in control, but that's just an illusion methinks. Frank" The gangbangs I've been in, it's been all about my pleasure. I hope men also get pleasure out of that scenario as well, but it's happening because I want it and I enjoy it. | |||
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"I wish there was more porn for "extreme" stuff (gangbangs etc) that wasn't so blatantly misogynistic. From my observations a true gang bang by its very nature is misogynistic. I'm talking at the very least a ratio of 5 men to one woman. I've never seen a hint of eroticism with a true gang bang, just the women being used. I know some will say the women are in control, but that's just an illusion methinks. Frank How is it mysogynistic when the woman is wanting it? Mysogyny is to do with hate?! Is this question also aimed at the female poster who brought up misogyny? In answer to your question, yes, the woman wants it, but what is in the hearts and minds of the blokes giving it to her? Not pleasant from what I've seen and heard first hand. Frank" In porn or actual gangbangs? I know damn well that porn is work, although I wish that they wouldn't be so violent/aggressive/extreme. And everyone in porn presumably understands that it's a job. I hope no one is saying that women are incapable of getting what they want out of a gangbang. Because it isn't true. | |||
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"I wish there was more porn for "extreme" stuff (gangbangs etc) that wasn't so blatantly misogynistic. From my observations a true gang bang by its very nature is misogynistic. I'm talking at the very least a ratio of 5 men to one woman. I've never seen a hint of eroticism with a true gang bang, just the women being used. I know some will say the women are in control, but that's just an illusion methinks. Frank How is it mysogynistic when the woman is wanting it? Mysogyny is to do with hate?! Is this question also aimed at the female poster who brought up misogyny? In answer to your question, yes, the woman wants it, but what is in the hearts and minds of the blokes giving it to her? Not pleasant from what I've seen and heard first hand. Frank In porn or actual gangbangs? I know damn well that porn is work, although I wish that they wouldn't be so violent/aggressive/extreme. And everyone in porn presumably understands that it's a job. I hope no one is saying that women are incapable of getting what they want out of a gangbang. Because it isn't true. " I'm referring to real life experiences. I totally get that a woman can get want she wants out of a gang bang. I'm merely questioning the motivation of the guys who are fulfilling her needs. If you're not bothered what goes on in their heads and what they say to each other afterwards then that's fine. All I'm saying is that I've heard some very unpleasant things said. Frank | |||
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"I wish there was more porn for "extreme" stuff (gangbangs etc) that wasn't so blatantly misogynistic. From my observations a true gang bang by its very nature is misogynistic. I'm talking at the very least a ratio of 5 men to one woman. I've never seen a hint of eroticism with a true gang bang, just the women being used. I know some will say the women are in control, but that's just an illusion methinks. Frank How is it mysogynistic when the woman is wanting it? Mysogyny is to do with hate?! Is this question also aimed at the female poster who brought up misogyny? In answer to your question, yes, the woman wants it, but what is in the hearts and minds of the blokes giving it to her? Not pleasant from what I've seen and heard first hand. Frank In porn or actual gangbangs? I know damn well that porn is work, although I wish that they wouldn't be so violent/aggressive/extreme. And everyone in porn presumably understands that it's a job. I hope no one is saying that women are incapable of getting what they want out of a gangbang. Because it isn't true. I'm referring to real life experiences. I totally get that a woman can get want she wants out of a gang bang. I'm merely questioning the motivation of the guys who are fulfilling her needs. If you're not bothered what goes on in their heads and what they say to each other afterwards then that's fine. All I'm saying is that I've heard some very unpleasant things said. Frank" No, I'm not bothered by what goes on in their heads. It's a casual encounter. I'm not marrying them. | |||
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"I wish there was more porn for "extreme" stuff (gangbangs etc) that wasn't so blatantly misogynistic. From my observations a true gang bang by its very nature is misogynistic. I'm talking at the very least a ratio of 5 men to one woman. I've never seen a hint of eroticism with a true gang bang, just the women being used. I know some will say the women are in control, but that's just an illusion methinks. Frank How is it mysogynistic when the woman is wanting it? Mysogyny is to do with hate?! Is this question also aimed at the female poster who brought up misogyny? In answer to your question, yes, the woman wants it, but what is in the hearts and minds of the blokes giving it to her? Not pleasant from what I've seen and heard first hand. Frank In porn or actual gangbangs? I know damn well that porn is work, although I wish that they wouldn't be so violent/aggressive/extreme. And everyone in porn presumably understands that it's a job. I hope no one is saying that women are incapable of getting what they want out of a gangbang. Because it isn't true. I'm referring to real life experiences. I totally get that a woman can get want she wants out of a gang bang. I'm merely questioning the motivation of the guys who are fulfilling her needs. If you're not bothered what goes on in their heads and what they say to each other afterwards then that's fine. All I'm saying is that I've heard some very unpleasant things said. Frank No, I'm not bothered by what goes on in their heads. It's a casual encounter. I'm not marrying them." That's fine. I'm just wondering why you said porn, specifically gang bangs, was misogynistic if it doesn't bother you what's going on in the minds of the men fucking you. Oh well... (shrug emoji if there was one) Frank | |||
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"I wish there was more porn for "extreme" stuff (gangbangs etc) that wasn't so blatantly misogynistic. From my observations a true gang bang by its very nature is misogynistic. I'm talking at the very least a ratio of 5 men to one woman. I've never seen a hint of eroticism with a true gang bang, just the women being used. I know some will say the women are in control, but that's just an illusion methinks. Frank How is it mysogynistic when the woman is wanting it? Mysogyny is to do with hate?! Is this question also aimed at the female poster who brought up misogyny? In answer to your question, yes, the woman wants it, but what is in the hearts and minds of the blokes giving it to her? Not pleasant from what I've seen and heard first hand. Frank In porn or actual gangbangs? I know damn well that porn is work, although I wish that they wouldn't be so violent/aggressive/extreme. And everyone in porn presumably understands that it's a job. I hope no one is saying that women are incapable of getting what they want out of a gangbang. Because it isn't true. I'm referring to real life experiences. I totally get that a woman can get want she wants out of a gang bang. I'm merely questioning the motivation of the guys who are fulfilling her needs. If you're not bothered what goes on in their heads and what they say to each other afterwards then that's fine. All I'm saying is that I've heard some very unpleasant things said. Frank No, I'm not bothered by what goes on in their heads. It's a casual encounter. I'm not marrying them. That's fine. I'm just wondering why you said porn, specifically gang bangs, was misogynistic if it doesn't bother you what's going on in the minds of the men fucking you. Oh well... (shrug emoji if there was one) Frank" Because if anyone treated me the way that some women are treated in this porn, they'd be lucky if they had their clothes thrown after them when they were bodily tossed from the room. Hope this helps. | |||
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