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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

Anyone else watchin the second inauguration?

I really hope he will follow his convictions this time - he has nothing to lose.

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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago

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That's it - a proper rousing speech on equalities.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm watching,,,,,

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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago

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Much shorter than the first time. A good one though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I always feel any 2nd term inauguration speech is more about fulfilling the obligation of ceremonial theatre where a president gets a free-hand to bask in partisan pubic adoration….

But it was assured and will no doubt please his party followers in the USA…..

However it's substance can only be judged at the end of his term…, which I sincerely hope is a successful one….

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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"I always feel any 2nd term inauguration speech is more about fulfilling the obligation of ceremonial theatre where a president gets a free-hand to bask in partisan pubic adoration….

But it was assured and will no doubt please his party followers in the USA…..

However it's substance can only be judged at the end of his term…, which I sincerely hope is a successful one….

As do I.

What would it have been like if it had been Mitt?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I always feel any 2nd term inauguration speech is more about fulfilling the obligation of ceremonial theatre where a president gets a free-hand to bask in partisan pubic adoration….

But it was assured and will no doubt please his party followers in the USA…..

However it's substance can only be judged at the end of his term…, which I sincerely hope is a successful one….

As do I.

What would it have been like if it had been Mitt?"

I wasn't really a Mitt fan on a number issues. So I think Obama was the better option....

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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

What would it have been like if it had been Mitt?

I wasn't really a Mitt fan on a number issues. So I think Obama was the better option...."

Mitt would have us locked up and damned to hell.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"I always feel any 2nd term inauguration speech is more about fulfilling the obligation of ceremonial theatre where a president gets a free-hand to bask in partisan pubic adoration….

But it was assured and will no doubt please his party followers in the USA…..

However it's substance can only be judged at the end of his term…, which I sincerely hope is a successful one….

As do I.

What would it have been like if it had been Mitt?"

Romney couldn't even bring himself to turn up.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

What would it have been like if it had been Mitt?

I wasn't really a Mitt fan on a number issues. So I think Obama was the better option....

Mitt would have us locked up and damned to hell."

the thought of someone with Romney and his VP's ideology and politics being in the White House is a frightening one..

maybe in 4 ears time the demographics will have started to alienate the extreme tea party types, and they may move to the centre..

Obama still has lots to do and many hurdles to overcome with the Repiblicans still calling the shots majority wise..

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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"I always feel any 2nd term inauguration speech is more about fulfilling the obligation of ceremonial theatre where a president gets a free-hand to bask in partisan pubic adoration….

But it was assured and will no doubt please his party followers in the USA…..

However it's substance can only be judged at the end of his term…, which I sincerely hope is a successful one….

As do I.

What would it have been like if it had been Mitt?

Romney couldn't even bring himself to turn up."

Not very gallant of him.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

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Romney couldn't even bring himself to turn up."

The Republican hierachy may have not wanted him there...

but whatever the reason its a poor show to not attend..

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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

Romney couldn't even bring himself to turn up.

The Republican hierachy may have not wanted him there...

but whatever the reason its a poor show to not attend.."

He may have heard Beyonce in rehearsal.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

the house of representatives is controlled by a republican majority.. so it's doubtful he'll be able to make any significant changes considering that.

hopefully he lays the foundations though for future administrations to make necessary improvements (whatever they may be).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What would it have been like if it had been Mitt?

I wasn't really a Mitt fan on a number issues. So I think Obama was the better option....

Mitt would have us locked up and damned to hell."

Us? This is an american inauguration. I don't see how it affects us directly.

Personally, Obama didn't do what he said he'd do in his first term and on that track record there's no reason to think he'll do any better this term. Americans voted for him though so I guess the alternative was worse than what they currently have.

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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

What would it have been like if it had been Mitt?

I wasn't really a Mitt fan on a number issues. So I think Obama was the better option....

Mitt would have us locked up and damned to hell.

Us? This is an american inauguration. I don't see how it affects us directly.

Why do you think it won't directly affect us?

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"Anyone else watchin the second inauguration?

I really hope he will follow his convictions this time - he has nothing to lose."

he may have nothing to lose, but he still have to try and get stuff past a republican controlled congress...

chances of that happening.. zero... they are much more "militant" than the senate is......

he can go for it.... they say no, and the pres can try to use the "they blocked everything" card in two year time...

if the pubs do the block everything thing... they will have no shot at 2016

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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"Anyone else watchin the second inauguration?

I really hope he will follow his convictions this time - he has nothing to lose.

he may have nothing to lose, but he still have to try and get stuff past a republican controlled congress...

chances of that happening.. zero... they are much more "militant" than the senate is......

he can go for it.... they say no, and the pres can try to use the "they blocked everything" card in two year time...

if the pubs do the block everything thing... they will have no shot at 2016"

It's a strange position to be in.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

What would it have been like if it had been Mitt?

I wasn't really a Mitt fan on a number issues. So I think Obama was the better option....

Mitt would have us locked up and damned to hell.

Us? This is an american inauguration. I don't see how it affects us directly.

actually wishy... thats unfair.... he got a lot of stuff in the first 2 years... the reason why it doesn't seem like it is that for the last 2 the republicans in congress have block all major legistlation......

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

problem for the republicans is they have a lovely way of shooting themselves in the foot.. for example... stances on low paid workers and tax cuts for the rich, stances on abortion and especially rape, and on stances with regards to immigration...

you could almost say that mitts flip flopping on immigration along probably cost him florida, and colorado,and new mexico his stance of the bailout cost him michigan, ohio, wisconsin and iowa, and flip flopping on rape and abortion cost him new hampshire, virginia,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I feel two terms is never enough to fix Americas's social and economical problems. Obama has one of the toughest jobs on the planet or so it seems. It's easier to mess the system up than it is to repair it. Their homeland gun control has had much media attention recently and Obama is looked at to get it sorted, then they have Afghanistan, Unemployment and so on to try and fix in 8 years!

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"I feel two terms is never enough to fix Americas's social and economical problems. Obama has one of the toughest jobs on the planet or so it seems. It's easier to mess the system up than it is to repair it. Their homeland gun control has had much media attention recently and Obama is looked at to get it sorted, then they have Afghanistan, Unemployment and so on to try and fix in 8 years!"

well it is kinda of looking at who would take over next..... on the dem side that may be easy.....

Hilary!!!!

but the question of her health is going to come up.....

the interesting side may well be the republicans... there are going to be a lot of candidates... marco rubio, chris christie, paul ryan, ran paul ect,ect...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What would it have been like if it had been Mitt?

I wasn't really a Mitt fan on a number issues. So I think Obama was the better option....

Mitt would have us locked up and damned to hell.

Us? This is an american inauguration. I don't see how it affects us directly.

Then it's totally fair to say he'll get nothing done in the next four years as surely the Republicans will continue to block him.

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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

Then it's totally fair to say he'll get nothing done in the next four years as surely the Republicans will continue to block him."

It will be difficult for the next two years but the mid-terms may see a shake up.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

Then it's totally fair to say he'll get nothing done in the next four years as surely the Republicans will continue to block him."

well the blocking tactic cost them this election... they keep doing it the people will blame them again and hilary gets in... so in the end it is their choice...

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

............and hilary gets in... so in the end it is their choice..."

Post blood clot, Hillary's success or otherwise will now come down to her choice of running mate. You wouldn't want the wrong person to a heartbeat away from the Oval Office.

I dunno if it's constitutionally posible but maybe Bill Clinton would be her choice.

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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

............and hilary gets in... so in the end it is their choice...

Post blood clot, Hillary's success or otherwise will now come down to her choice of running mate. You wouldn't want the wrong person to a heartbeat away from the Oval Office.

I dunno if it's constitutionally posible but maybe Bill Clinton would be her choice."

It would be great if she ran with Michelle Obama. How fab would that be?

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

............and hilary gets in... so in the end it is their choice...

Post blood clot, Hillary's success or otherwise will now come down to her choice of running mate. You wouldn't want the wrong person to a heartbeat away from the Oval Office.

I dunno if it's constitutionally posible but maybe Bill Clinton would be her choice.

It would be great if she ran with Michelle Obama. How fab would that be?"

I'm not sure the US public are happy with Michelle Obama's new hairstyle.

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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

............and hilary gets in... so in the end it is their choice...

Post blood clot, Hillary's success or otherwise will now come down to her choice of running mate. You wouldn't want the wrong person to a heartbeat away from the Oval Office.

I dunno if it's constitutionally posible but maybe Bill Clinton would be her choice.

It would be great if she ran with Michelle Obama. How fab would that be?

I'm not sure the US public are happy with Michelle Obama's new hairstyle."

She'll have changed it twenty times by the next election.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Anyone else watchin the second inauguration?

I really hope he will follow his convictions this time - he has nothing to lose."

I thought there was more conviction in this from him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zPiQgUQt3E

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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"Anyone else watchin the second inauguration?

I really hope he will follow his convictions this time - he has nothing to lose.

I thought there was more conviction in this from him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zPiQgUQt3E

The BBC interviewed him before the inauguration ceremony.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

History will show that Obama already has a wonderful legacy. The next two years are a great opportunity for him to destroy Republican hopes for 2016 by showing them to be the blockage to progress that many consider them to be. Don't forget The popularity of much of their ideology is shrinking.

If he plays it well then the mid terms will give him the opportunity to go out on a real high.

My only concern is that things will get watered down too much over the next two years to get them through.

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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"History will show that Obama already has a wonderful legacy. The next two years are a great opportunity for him to destroy Republican hopes for 2016 by showing them to be the blockage to progress that many consider them to be. Don't forget The popularity of much of their ideology is shrinking.

If he plays it well then the mid terms will give him the opportunity to go out on a real high.

My only concern is that things will get watered down too much over the next two years to get them through. "

I share that worry. I would not like Obama to be remembered for being a black president but as an effective president.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

His election was a wonderful day for human rights.

That's all I'm going to say on the matter...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

4 years ago the byword was Change. What happened?

Having said that the gun lobby hate his guts already so he might as well go after them but i doubt if he will. there's things not in his control that he can't change and there's things that he could change. i get a feeling he's going to fall somewhere between the two. in a hundred years people will be saying 'Barack who'..not really the lasting legacy some envisaged

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"4 years ago the byword was Change. What happened?

see... he has done a lot....

for example... the very first thing he did was sign into law the "lily leadbetter fair pay act"... which pay discrimation between men and women illegal...

he signed into the financial credit card act.. which mean credit card companies can't just hike up interest rates...

he gave the FDA (food and drug administration) a lot more power to regulate tobacco

the repeal of "don't ask don't tell"...

the hate crimes bill....

the bill to get children healthcare insured (without obamacare)

triple the size of "americore" which was the american national service program

remember the car scrapage program in the uk... where the govt game you 2k for your old car...... where did the idea come from???

the stimulas bill... and universal healthcare....

the financial reform bill....

the 9/11 health bill to help 1st responders

and a nuclear arms treaty with russia...

and a lot more...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yeah i apologise. I was looking at it as an outsider. I meant from a world point of view. The world isn't a safer place but then maybe its not in his remit. If it isn't i wish a lot of Americans i know would stop acting like it is

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Would like to think that both terms will be judged as successes.

But have a nagging fear that as the expectations when he was first elected were so ludicrously and unrealistically high that what he has achieved will be devalued.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"Would like to think that both terms will be judged as successes.

But have a nagging fear that as the expectations when he was first elected were so ludicrously and unrealistically high that what he has achieved will be devalued."

up to a point anything short of "world peace" was going to be something some people would be disappointed in in obama (winning the actual nobel peace prize probably didn't help either!!!)

the reason why i quoted what he has done in the last 4 years... was that he managed all that lot in the first 2 yrs... then the midterms came, the republicans got a majority in congress and blocked him ever since...

the irony being if the republicans had not been so obstructionist it would probably have been president romney...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mitt is a quality leader who would of done better than this popularist monkey!

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