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"I think they’ll win the treble now. If they do they’re easily the greatest side the Premier League has ever seen. Can’t argue with that statement. The football on display is of another world just now. I have no vested interest in City or their alleged exploits with finances. What can’t be denied is that no matter how the players came to the club, they still have to be coached into a winning team. No money can do that. That’s all on Pep and the staff. " I was unsure Pep’s style would work in England but he’s proved me wrong. He has spent a lot of money but so have a few other teams and one of them won’t even finish in the top half this season. | |||
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"Shame they cheated, be interesting what happens to all them 100 plus charges against them." They’ll take years to prove, and even longer to do the legal wranglings of a deal. Either that or a deal will be done behind closed doors and it’ll all go away quietly. | |||
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"Shame they cheated, be interesting what happens to all them 100 plus charges against them." Also, a quick question and I’m not having a dig. I’ve seen so many say ‘they’ cheated. How did the players ‘cheat’ their way to the successes they’ve earned? | |||
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"Shame they cheated, be interesting what happens to all them 100 plus charges against them. Also, a quick question and I’m not having a dig. I’ve seen so many say ‘they’ cheated. How did the players ‘cheat’ their way to the successes they’ve earned? " Exactly this. Not one of those players cheated, and I'm an Arsenal fan. We blew it. I hope our time will come soon, but I can't begrudge a team with KDB in it. And Haaland has been off the chart. | |||
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"I think they’ll win the treble now. If they do they’re easily the greatest side the Premier League has ever seen." Yes. I also think that they will win the treble now as well | |||
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"Shame they cheated, be interesting what happens to all them 100 plus charges against them. Also, a quick question and I’m not having a dig. I’ve seen so many say ‘they’ cheated. How did the players ‘cheat’ their way to the successes they’ve earned? " Players they wouldn't have had if they were playing with the same rules as everyone else. They artificially inflated their revenue so they could spend that money and we're supposed to call them the greatest team ever? Would the same apply to doping athletes who broke records? Even if they win the treble, it'll be hollow as fuck | |||
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"Shame they cheated, be interesting what happens to all them 100 plus charges against them. Also, a quick question and I’m not having a dig. I’ve seen so many say ‘they’ cheated. How did the players ‘cheat’ their way to the successes they’ve earned? Players they wouldn't have had if they were playing with the same rules as everyone else. They artificially inflated their revenue so they could spend that money and we're supposed to call them the greatest team ever? Would the same apply to doping athletes who broke records? Even if they win the treble, it'll be hollow as fuck" FFP aren’t fair rules anyway. They’ve been put in place to keep the big clubs big and the small clubs small. | |||
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"Shame they cheated, be interesting what happens to all them 100 plus charges against them. Also, a quick question and I’m not having a dig. I’ve seen so many say ‘they’ cheated. How did the players ‘cheat’ their way to the successes they’ve earned? Players they wouldn't have had if they were playing with the same rules as everyone else. They artificially inflated their revenue so they could spend that money and we're supposed to call them the greatest team ever? Would the same apply to doping athletes who broke records? Even if they win the treble, it'll be hollow as fuck FFP aren’t fair rules anyway. They’ve been put in place to keep the big clubs big and the small clubs small. " Or it was to stop clubs spending beyond their means to bankrupt themselves trying to aim for success. | |||
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"Shame they cheated, be interesting what happens to all them 100 plus charges against them. Also, a quick question and I’m not having a dig. I’ve seen so many say ‘they’ cheated. How did the players ‘cheat’ their way to the successes they’ve earned? Players they wouldn't have had if they were playing with the same rules as everyone else. They artificially inflated their revenue so they could spend that money and we're supposed to call them the greatest team ever? Would the same apply to doping athletes who broke records? Even if they win the treble, it'll be hollow as fuck FFP aren’t fair rules anyway. They’ve been put in place to keep the big clubs big and the small clubs small. Or it was to stop clubs spending beyond their means to bankrupt themselves trying to aim for success." It’s easy to say as a Man U fan. I don’t hear any of the big 6 complaining about the possibility of Everton staying up after cheating with their finances. | |||
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"Shame they cheated, be interesting what happens to all them 100 plus charges against them. Also, a quick question and I’m not having a dig. I’ve seen so many say ‘they’ cheated. How did the players ‘cheat’ their way to the successes they’ve earned? Players they wouldn't have had if they were playing with the same rules as everyone else. They artificially inflated their revenue so they could spend that money and we're supposed to call them the greatest team ever? Would the same apply to doping athletes who broke records? Even if they win the treble, it'll be hollow as fuck" That still didn’t answer the question posed. How did the PLAYERS cheat their way to the titles? Irrespective of how they arrived at the club. They still have to gel into a team capable of winning stuff. | |||
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"Same again next season." -Liverpool have beaten them, blown it and come really close a couple of times (didn't they get over 90 points last year?). Arsenal now have the stadium, money, team, management, player-interest, progression, momentum and general attitude. Okay, Man City are ahead and now have Haarland too, but in terms of the cash advantage I don't think it will figure so much from now on. In fact I'm certain in won't. Too many other wealthy UK teams, too many other great managers here too. Arsenal next year now for me. We didn't bottle it, we just couldn't sustain it. Saliba and Tomiyasu from our defence for the rest of the season plus any one-game injury/illness and that was it for us. We mainly had the one way to play (an awesome one-trick pony almost), but just not the cover to sustain it. Man City always will though, so others simply have to play the full 100 mins the whole season now. It's all about the killer squads. Arsenal are seriously looking to complete one, and it's all been via progression. The only question for me about this year is will Man City peak with a treble? Maybe. I don't really care either way now, although Man U will have something to say about it for sure. pt | |||
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"Shame they cheated, be interesting what happens to all them 100 plus charges against them. Also, a quick question and I’m not having a dig. I’ve seen so many say ‘they’ cheated. How did the players ‘cheat’ their way to the successes they’ve earned? Players they wouldn't have had if they were playing with the same rules as everyone else. They artificially inflated their revenue so they could spend that money and we're supposed to call them the greatest team ever? Would the same apply to doping athletes who broke records? Even if they win the treble, it'll be hollow as fuck FFP aren’t fair rules anyway. They’ve been put in place to keep the big clubs big and the small clubs small. Or it was to stop clubs spending beyond their means to bankrupt themselves trying to aim for success. It’s easy to say as a Man U fan. I don’t hear any of the big 6 complaining about the possibility of Everton staying up after cheating with their finances." I also say it as someone from Derby who went as far as to do things like sell their stadium to the owner in the hopes of getting promotion and were left in administration, with a transfer embargo, points deduction and a threadbare squad who are now in League 1 and can only just start to rebuild. And the thing is, they're not even the first case. But eah, let clubs spend whatever they want. | |||
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"Shame they cheated, be interesting what happens to all them 100 plus charges against them. Also, a quick question and I’m not having a dig. I’ve seen so many say ‘they’ cheated. How did the players ‘cheat’ their way to the successes they’ve earned? Players they wouldn't have had if they were playing with the same rules as everyone else. They artificially inflated their revenue so they could spend that money and we're supposed to call them the greatest team ever? Would the same apply to doping athletes who broke records? Even if they win the treble, it'll be hollow as fuck That still didn’t answer the question posed. How did the PLAYERS cheat their way to the titles? Irrespective of how they arrived at the club. They still have to gel into a team capable of winning stuff. " The didn't, but their achievements are moot due to the former. | |||
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"Shame they cheated, be interesting what happens to all them 100 plus charges against them. Also, a quick question and I’m not having a dig. I’ve seen so many say ‘they’ cheated. How did the players ‘cheat’ their way to the successes they’ve earned? Players they wouldn't have had if they were playing with the same rules as everyone else. They artificially inflated their revenue so they could spend that money and we're supposed to call them the greatest team ever? Would the same apply to doping athletes who broke records? Even if they win the treble, it'll be hollow as fuck FFP aren’t fair rules anyway. They’ve been put in place to keep the big clubs big and the small clubs small. Or it was to stop clubs spending beyond their means to bankrupt themselves trying to aim for success. It’s easy to say as a Man U fan. I don’t hear any of the big 6 complaining about the possibility of Everton staying up after cheating with their finances. I also say it as someone from Derby who went as far as to do things like sell their stadium to the owner in the hopes of getting promotion and were left in administration, with a transfer embargo, points deduction and a threadbare squad who are now in League 1 and can only just start to rebuild. And the thing is, they're not even the first case. But eah, let clubs spend whatever they want." If the clubs can afford it, then why not? It’s how most teams won the league before FFP. Man U had the first billion pound squad but that’s fine because they didn’t make a £103m loss a season over three years. Is that really fair play? | |||
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"Shame they cheated, be interesting what happens to all them 100 plus charges against them. Also, a quick question and I’m not having a dig. I’ve seen so many say ‘they’ cheated. How did the players ‘cheat’ their way to the successes they’ve earned? Players they wouldn't have had if they were playing with the same rules as everyone else. They artificially inflated their revenue so they could spend that money and we're supposed to call them the greatest team ever? Would the same apply to doping athletes who broke records? Even if they win the treble, it'll be hollow as fuck FFP aren’t fair rules anyway. They’ve been put in place to keep the big clubs big and the small clubs small. Or it was to stop clubs spending beyond their means to bankrupt themselves trying to aim for success. It’s easy to say as a Man U fan. I don’t hear any of the big 6 complaining about the possibility of Everton staying up after cheating with their finances. I also say it as someone from Derby who went as far as to do things like sell their stadium to the owner in the hopes of getting promotion and were left in administration, with a transfer embargo, points deduction and a threadbare squad who are now in League 1 and can only just start to rebuild. And the thing is, they're not even the first case. But eah, let clubs spend whatever they want. If the clubs can afford it, then why not? It’s how most teams won the league before FFP. Man U had the first billion pound squad but that’s fine because they didn’t make a £103m loss a season over three years. Is that really fair play?" That was meant to be a £103m loss over 3 seasons. | |||
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"I also say it as someone from Derby who went as far as to do things like sell their stadium to the owner in the hopes of getting promotion and were left in administration, with a transfer embargo, points deduction and a threadbare squad who are now in League 1 and can only just start to rebuild. And the thing is, they're not even the first case. But eah, let clubs spend whatever they want. If the clubs can afford it, then why not? It’s how most teams won the league before FFP. Man U had the first billion pound squad but that’s fine because they didn’t make a £103m loss a season over three years. Is that really fair play?" Of course now you're saying if clubs can afford it Exactly, and it's hitting us now. Despite bringing in a shit ton of money, the mis-management of the club means we don't have as much to spend this summer compared to previously in order to comply with FFP on top of ongoing debt repayments. So if we have to comply now with rules that don't favour us, why shouldn't others? | |||
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"I also say it as someone from Derby who went as far as to do things like sell their stadium to the owner in the hopes of getting promotion and were left in administration, with a transfer embargo, points deduction and a threadbare squad who are now in League 1 and can only just start to rebuild. And the thing is, they're not even the first case. But eah, let clubs spend whatever they want. If the clubs can afford it, then why not? It’s how most teams won the league before FFP. Man U had the first billion pound squad but that’s fine because they didn’t make a £103m loss a season over three years. Is that really fair play? Of course now you're saying if clubs can afford it Exactly, and it's hitting us now. Despite bringing in a shit ton of money, the mis-management of the club means we don't have as much to spend this summer compared to previously in order to comply with FFP on top of ongoing debt repayments. So if we have to comply now with rules that don't favour us, why shouldn't others?" The being able to afford it was implied because we’re talking about a state owned club winning the league. Where are you cutting spending? You didn’t spend in the last window because your owners are selling up. What’s your net spend the window before that? | |||
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"If the clubs can afford it, then why not? It’s how most teams won the league before FFP. Man U had the first billion pound squad but that’s fine because they didn’t make a £103m loss a season over three years. Is that really fair play? Of course now you're saying if clubs can afford it Exactly, and it's hitting us now. Despite bringing in a shit ton of money, the mis-management of the club means we don't have as much to spend this summer compared to previously in order to comply with FFP on top of ongoing debt repayments. So if we have to comply now with rules that don't favour us, why shouldn't others? The being able to afford it was implied because we’re talking about a state owned club winning the league. Where are you cutting spending? You didn’t spend in the last window because your owners are selling up. What’s your net spend the window before that? " Our next spend has always been fucking awful but it's been offset by the revenue we've been bringing in along with sponsorships. Our current shirt sponsor contract has been cancelled, we're making debt repayments which has increased and our revenue has fallen. The accumulation of those things mean we don't have the money to spend this transfer window. Anyway, what does this have to do wit City cooking their books? | |||
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"Well played to the English Wrexham. It really is a fairy tale come come true. " -lol yeah we are all teary eyed. Even Man City fans need Europe this year to avoid the "dissonance" of seeing these huge squad wins with all the financial criticism behind them. But Man City did have to build for a few years, and rely on some great stalwart players too (remember Kompany?), poach some great players (great that Arsenal got some goodies from them this year, proving that you can't be too bloated in football) - and they still haven't *yet* cracked Europe. I think it's the end of their almost-complete dominance now, so it's not all doom and gloom despite any dodgy dealing along the way. pt | |||
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"Same again next season." Yes. I also reckon that man city could win next season too | |||
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