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"It's preferable being friend zoned in an honest manner rather than being strung along with false hope / expectations. I sometimes wonder if for the one friend zoned, it's not preferable to just cut ties / stop interacting if your feelings for that person are still very strong." I agree glad she was honest so soon just disappointed I guess. Is what it is. Just feel like FZ is all I will now sometimes. | |||
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"It's preferable being friend zoned in an honest manner rather than being strung along with false hope / expectations. I sometimes wonder if for the one friend zoned, it's not preferable to just cut ties / stop interacting if your feelings for that person are still very strong." Totally agree with that guy. | |||
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" If its not mutual in effort and in attention, affection or time then it's not enough. " I think that's the key, it must be mutual from both sides | |||
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"I don't see being 'friend zoned' as anything negative. In a previous, somewhat 'Tate' style thread someone said they didn't date women and only used them for sex as they didn't want to run the risk of ever being friendzoned, and that men were weak willed for 'allowing' women to 'use' them to do things for them with the false hope of sex as bait. What's wrong with being friends? Not everyone you have romantic feelings for will feel the same. Not everyone you want to fuck will either. No doubt there are people that are attracted to you either physically or emotionally that you may not even be aware of and you may not feel the same about them. Why is the 'friend zone' perceived as a negative place to be? I'd love more friends. I suspect many (not all obvs - some people just don't like other people ) of us would. If people stopped thinking of it in a negative way and considered the benefit of friendship as opposed to the downside of not being able to fuck someone or be in a relationship with them, then maybe we'd all be a little happier? A" Very much this. I also don't really believe in the friendzone and think it has slightly icky connotations. But... Op, you're hurting. I imagine it's crap when someone you like/fancy doesn't see you in that way. But she was honest - is your friendship affected now? You'll find a person who doesn't want to be friends - wants something else. I'm not going to say just because it's that whole discounting friendship as a valid, strong relationship. It's not the one you wanted though - you'll find someone where those feelings are matched. It might take time but it will happen, x | |||
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"So dumped again this morning by someone I really liked. As usual tell me I'm so nice, told me things they haven't told anyone else but just don't fancy me but love to stay friends. Anyone else feel they are destined for the Friendzone forever more?" Dated a woman 13 years my senior all last year, broke up in vietnam in January, 2nd day into a months holiday. "Its not you it's me" although I'm apparently "too nice" as well. Now we're friends and we work together and it's a shit situation to be in. Still, back to single life for me and I'm not gonna let myself fall for anyone again anytime soon. | |||
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"I've been put I the friendzone and I friendzone ppl quite often. It's not a great feeling on either end but I understand why it needs to be done. I'd rather someone park me in the friend zone than string me along to the point that I'm thinking we're building or working towards something. " Agree with this entirely. Even if it's a don't know thing be straight up about it. Not sure I agree with the term friend zone entirely because anyone I have sex with will start as friend 9/10. For me it's more well if you can't be honest with me what does that mean in terms of a friendship? I value friends over sex anyway. Sorry it didn't work out OP. | |||
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"So dumped again this morning by someone I really liked. As usual tell me I'm so nice, told me things they haven't told anyone else but just don't fancy me but love to stay friends. Anyone else feel they are destined for the Friendzone forever more? Dated a woman 13 years my senior all last year, broke up in vietnam in January, 2nd day into a months holiday. "Its not you it's me" although I'm apparently "too nice" as well. Now we're friends and we work together and it's a shit situation to be in. Still, back to single life for me and I'm not gonna let myself fall for anyone again anytime soon. " I feel you man, I feel you | |||
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"This is a serious question. If a man is friendly towards me, I like him and am friendly back do either of us need to make it clear that it's no more than friendship? I understand that the op is upset because he was in a sexual relationship that the woman ended and wanted to remain friends so my question is slightly at a tangent" See this is something I've wondered about recently. I had a really good friendship with someone, or so I thought, and when I said I didn't want to watch them wank? That was the end of that. I don't want to have to tell men - we're friends, nothing more. It kind of makes me sad that friendship can be seen as something you put another tokens in to get to what you really want. When I get the feeling that someone isn't really interested in an actual friendship and is biding time until they get vaginal access, I let it fizzle. | |||
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"So dumped again this morning by someone I really liked. As usual tell me I'm so nice, told me things they haven't told anyone else but just don't fancy me but love to stay friends. Anyone else feel they are destined for the Friendzone forever more?" Sounds more like being let down gently than freindzoned. | |||
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"So dumped again this morning by someone I really liked. As usual tell me I'm so nice, told me things they haven't told anyone else but just don't fancy me but love to stay friends. Anyone else feel they are destined for the Friendzone forever more? Sounds more like being let down gently than freindzoned." lol was bit of both, she did ask to remain friends as she is really comfortable talking with me. It is what it just seems very common outcome for me. Some times just feels like on repeat. | |||
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"This is a serious question. If a man is friendly towards me, I like him and am friendly back do either of us need to make it clear that it's no more than friendship? I understand that the op is upset because he was in a sexual relationship that the woman ended and wanted to remain friends so my question is slightly at a tangent" Are you talking on Fab or vanilla? On fab there is no harm in being clear. I have fab friends who are just that. You can still have wild conversations without the worry of it being misinterpreted. Generally, I think you can be friends with a woman and not expect anything else. GF | |||
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"So dumped again this morning by someone I really liked. As usual tell me I'm so nice, told me things they haven't told anyone else but just don't fancy me but love to stay friends. Anyone else feel they are destined for the Friendzone forever more? Sounds more like being let down gently than freindzoned. lol was bit of both, she did ask to remain friends as she is really comfortable talking with me. It is what it just seems very common outcome for me. Some times just feels like on repeat." I tend to get abuse followed by a door slam So much easier to deal with lol | |||
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"Difficult to know what to do in every situation. The only way not be friendzoned is do not always be available to them. Stop being the ear for her. Does she only contact you when she's down or unhappy with another men etc? Your a friend nothing more. It pains me to say I have lost contact and been blocked by some beautiful, lovely women who I wanted to meet. But when you know your just a outlet for them to vent you are never going to get what youd like. As I say, one woman in particular I liked a lot, she even contacted me when I returned here, I regret letting her go but the position was clear and she was hurt by my decision to move from her. If burning desire is not equal on both sides to engage in sex, you will be friendzoned and ultimately unhappy. Good luck, god bless. I know it hurts " The burning desire is a must.x | |||
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"So dumped again this morning by someone I really liked. As usual tell me I'm so nice, told me things they haven't told anyone else but just don't fancy me but love to stay friends. Anyone else feel they are destined for the Friendzone forever more?" Nope never, never happened never will happen, I'm amazing | |||
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"It's happened to me and I just respect their decision" It's easy this way. | |||
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"This is a serious question. If a man is friendly towards me, I like him and am friendly back do either of us need to make it clear that it's no more than friendship? I understand that the op is upset because he was in a sexual relationship that the woman ended and wanted to remain friends so my question is slightly at a tangent" I have a few male friends who I am genuinely 'just' friends with, there's never been any conversation to say listen I like you but we are just friends on either side,they are just my mates | |||
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"This is a serious question. If a man is friendly towards me, I like him and am friendly back do either of us need to make it clear that it's no more than friendship? I understand that the op is upset because he was in a sexual relationship that the woman ended and wanted to remain friends so my question is slightly at a tangent Are you talking on Fab or vanilla? On fab there is no harm in being clear. I have fab friends who are just that. You can still have wild conversations without the worry of it being misinterpreted. Generally, I think you can be friends with a woman and not expect anything else. GF" In the wider world really. I've heard the term friendzone used so many times in a negative as if there's no point being friends with a woman unless sex is available. Women also use it but not as often. | |||
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"This is a serious question. If a man is friendly towards me, I like him and am friendly back do either of us need to make it clear that it's no more than friendship? I understand that the op is upset because he was in a sexual relationship that the woman ended and wanted to remain friends so my question is slightly at a tangent See this is something I've wondered about recently. I had a really good friendship with someone, or so I thought, and when I said I didn't want to watch them wank? That was the end of that. I don't want to have to tell men - we're friends, nothing more. It kind of makes me sad that friendship can be seen as something you put another tokens in to get to what you really want. When I get the feeling that someone isn't really interested in an actual friendship and is biding time until they get vaginal access, I let it fizzle." I have one genuine man friend. | |||
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"So dumped again this morning by someone I really liked. As usual tell me I'm so nice, told me things they haven't told anyone else but just don't fancy me but love to stay friends. Anyone else feel they are destined for the Friendzone forever more?" Ah, I feel for you mate. The trouble with being friendly is that’s all they think you will or can be. Chics dig bad boys, or so I am told. I can see myself just hooking up now and again for the company, or like you op. Watching those if want something more getting with others whilst they tell me all about it… | |||
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"This is a serious question. If a man is friendly towards me, I like him and am friendly back do either of us need to make it clear that it's no more than friendship? I understand that the op is upset because he was in a sexual relationship that the woman ended and wanted to remain friends so my question is slightly at a tangent" I think it's a bit more complicated than that and (as with many things) varies immensely depending on the person. For some people, a refusal to move a relationship into the sex zone (if that's even a thing) is a massive issue and they'll walk away. For others, it's only a problem if they develop romantic feelings that aren't reciprocated (this appears to be the case with the OP). As you're clearly in a relationship I'd suggest the latter is less likely to be an issue for you. Guys know you have a hubby you love so won't expect to be your romantic interest. Unless people know you're a swinger I can't see you having too much of an issue not wanting to make a friendship sexual either though I guess if they know you swing there is always the possibility. Personally, its not a convo I'd bother having unless someone behaved or spoke in a way that made me suspect they were after more than I want to offer. | |||
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"... In the wider world really. I've heard the term friendzone used so many times in a negative as if there's no point being friends with a woman unless sex is available. Women also use it but not as often. " I think 'friendzone' is an unhelpful label, but symptomatic of the faceache age. There is a widely held belief that the only reason men and women interact is because the former are in pursuit of sex. It is possibly bound up in dated concepts of women as mere chattels. I think that is wrong. I do believe it is possible and actually healthy just to be friends with some people. | |||
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"So dumped again this morning by someone I really liked. As usual tell me I'm so nice, told me things they haven't told anyone else but just don't fancy me but love to stay friends. Anyone else feel they are destined for the Friendzone forever more?" Sorry to hear dude. Happened when I was younger in my ‘simping years/phase’ haha . Take it as a learning opportunity . Next time u can pick up on signs quicker u being friend zoned & move on before they waste your time. | |||
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"So dumped again this morning by someone I really liked. As usual tell me I'm so nice, told me things they haven't told anyone else but just don't fancy me but love to stay friends. Anyone else feel they are destined for the Friendzone forever more?" There's no such thing as the friendzone, it's a word made up by incels to describe their lack of success with women and to make it sound like it's the woman's fault. When you say you were dumped were you actually in a relationship or is it more that you had feelings for someone and they were not reciprocated? If it's the latter then they thought of you as just a friend, you were the one who viewed it as more. Women are not vending machines that you put kindness coins into until sex falls out. | |||
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"So dumped again this morning by someone I really liked. As usual tell me I'm so nice, told me things they haven't told anyone else but just don't fancy me but love to stay friends. Anyone else feel they are destined for the Friendzone forever more? There's no such thing as the friendzone, it's a word made up by incels to describe their lack of success with women and to make it sound like it's the woman's fault. When you say you were dumped were you actually in a relationship or is it more that you had feelings for someone and they were not reciprocated? If it's the latter then they thought of you as just a friend, you were the one who viewed it as more. Women are not vending machines that you put kindness coins into until sex falls out." Lol so many conclusions jumped too there Jesus. When did I mention sex. Sex isn't what I wanted even. We were dating and we got on fantasticily because we are both nice people. Just I liked her a lot and she didn't quite feel the same. Just seems to happen a lot to me. Don't feel any woman owes me anything, what a weird conclusion to jump to. My post is only to look for others that have similar experiences to try to understand mine better | |||
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"So dumped again this morning by someone I really liked. As usual tell me I'm so nice, told me things they haven't told anyone else but just don't fancy me but love to stay friends. Anyone else feel they are destined for the Friendzone forever more?" Don't be disheartened mate! There is a point, where the friendzone morphs in to networking, and nothing improves your chances of meeting women, than another woman telling them what a great guy you are! Stay positive | |||
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"This is a serious question. If a man is friendly towards me, I like him and am friendly back do either of us need to make it clear that it's no more than friendship? I understand that the op is upset because he was in a sexual relationship that the woman ended and wanted to remain friends so my question is slightly at a tangent I think it's a bit more complicated than that and (as with many things) varies immensely depending on the person. For some people, a refusal to move a relationship into the sex zone (if that's even a thing) is a massive issue and they'll walk away. For others, it's only a problem if they develop romantic feelings that aren't reciprocated (this appears to be the case with the OP). As you're clearly in a relationship I'd suggest the latter is less likely to be an issue for you. Guys know you have a hubby you love so won't expect to be your romantic interest. Unless people know you're a swinger I can't see you having too much of an issue not wanting to make a friendship sexual either though I guess if they know you swing there is always the possibility. Personally, its not a convo I'd bother having unless someone behaved or spoke in a way that made me suspect they were after more than I want to offer. " It has been my experience that many men don't want to be my friend unless sex is on the cards. There have been exceptions to this but very few. My wedding ring just means many of them don't bother trying to be more than as polite as the situation requires. I'm not as cynical as that might sound but I am very careful around men until I can work them out | |||
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"So dumped again this morning by someone I really liked. As usual tell me I'm so nice, told me things they haven't told anyone else but just don't fancy me but love to stay friends. Anyone else feel they are destined for the Friendzone forever more? There's no such thing as the friendzone, it's a word made up by incels to describe their lack of success with women and to make it sound like it's the woman's fault. When you say you were dumped were you actually in a relationship or is it more that you had feelings for someone and they were not reciprocated? If it's the latter then they thought of you as just a friend, you were the one who viewed it as more. Women are not vending machines that you put kindness coins into until sex falls out. Lol so many conclusions jumped too there Jesus. When did I mention sex. Sex isn't what I wanted even. We were dating and we got on fantasticily because we are both nice people. Just I liked her a lot and she didn't quite feel the same. Just seems to happen a lot to me. Don't feel any woman owes me anything, what a weird conclusion to jump to. My post is only to look for others that have similar experiences to try to understand mine better" You can understand the confusion though. If you didn't even want sex and she's still in your life you haven't lost her altogether... It sounds as if you were hoping for a longer-term, romantic relationship and she doesn't want that. That hurts and I'm sorry | |||
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"So dumped again this morning by someone I really liked. As usual tell me I'm so nice, told me things they haven't told anyone else but just don't fancy me but love to stay friends. Anyone else feel they are destined for the Friendzone forever more? There's no such thing as the friendzone, it's a word made up by incels to describe their lack of success with women and to make it sound like it's the woman's fault. When you say you were dumped were you actually in a relationship or is it more that you had feelings for someone and they were not reciprocated? If it's the latter then they thought of you as just a friend, you were the one who viewed it as more. Women are not vending machines that you put kindness coins into until sex falls out. Lol so many conclusions jumped too there Jesus. When did I mention sex. Sex isn't what I wanted even. We were dating and we got on fantasticily because we are both nice people. Just I liked her a lot and she didn't quite feel the same. Just seems to happen a lot to me. Don't feel any woman owes me anything, what a weird conclusion to jump to. My post is only to look for others that have similar experiences to try to understand mine better" When you say dating what do you mean? Were you going out for meals, to the pub, the cinema etc? Was there any talk of a sexual relationship? Did you hold hands, cuddle on the sofa? If none of these happened then she thought of you just as a mate and you were just hanging out, in which case you weren't dumped and she was just making it clear that you are just a friend and nothing more. I'm aware that sounds harsh but it's the reality. If these things were happening and she has changed her mind about pursuing a relationship with you, it's awful for you and you have every right to be sad about that. You say that being 'friendzoned' is the norm for you. Is it possible that you haven't given any indication that you are sexually attracted to these women, so they might just assume you're only looking for friendship? If a woman senses a man is interested in her but she doesn't feel the same she's usually quite quick to make it obvious how she feels. Perhaps you just haven't found the right lady for you? | |||
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"So dumped again this morning by someone I really liked. As usual tell me I'm so nice, told me things they haven't told anyone else but just don't fancy me but love to stay friends. Anyone else feel they are destined for the Friendzone forever more? There's no such thing as the friendzone, it's a word made up by incels to describe their lack of success with women and to make it sound like it's the woman's fault. When you say you were dumped were you actually in a relationship or is it more that you had feelings for someone and they were not reciprocated? If it's the latter then they thought of you as just a friend, you were the one who viewed it as more. Women are not vending machines that you put kindness coins into until sex falls out. Lol so many conclusions jumped too there Jesus. When did I mention sex. Sex isn't what I wanted even. We were dating and we got on fantasticily because we are both nice people. Just I liked her a lot and she didn't quite feel the same. Just seems to happen a lot to me. Don't feel any woman owes me anything, what a weird conclusion to jump to. My post is only to look for others that have similar experiences to try to understand mine better When you say dating what do you mean? Were you going out for meals, to the pub, the cinema etc? Was there any talk of a sexual relationship? Did you hold hands, cuddle on the sofa? If none of these happened then she thought of you just as a mate and you were just hanging out, in which case you weren't dumped and she was just making it clear that you are just a friend and nothing more. I'm aware that sounds harsh but it's the reality. If these things were happening and she has changed her mind about pursuing a relationship with you, it's awful for you and you have every right to be sad about that. You say that being 'friendzoned' is the norm for you. Is it possible that you haven't given any indication that you are sexually attracted to these women, so they might just assume you're only looking for friendship? If a woman senses a man is interested in her but she doesn't feel the same she's usually quite quick to make it obvious how she feels. Perhaps you just haven't found the right lady for you?" Yes we did all those things | |||
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"So dumped again this morning by someone I really liked. As usual tell me I'm so nice, told me things they haven't told anyone else but just don't fancy me but love to stay friends. Anyone else feel they are destined for the Friendzone forever more? There's no such thing as the friendzone, it's a word made up by incels to describe their lack of success with women and to make it sound like it's the woman's fault. When you say you were dumped were you actually in a relationship or is it more that you had feelings for someone and they were not reciprocated? If it's the latter then they thought of you as just a friend, you were the one who viewed it as more. Women are not vending machines that you put kindness coins into until sex falls out. Lol so many conclusions jumped too there Jesus. When did I mention sex. Sex isn't what I wanted even. We were dating and we got on fantasticily because we are both nice people. Just I liked her a lot and she didn't quite feel the same. Just seems to happen a lot to me. Don't feel any woman owes me anything, what a weird conclusion to jump to. My post is only to look for others that have similar experiences to try to understand mine better When you say dating what do you mean? Were you going out for meals, to the pub, the cinema etc? Was there any talk of a sexual relationship? Did you hold hands, cuddle on the sofa? If none of these happened then she thought of you just as a mate and you were just hanging out, in which case you weren't dumped and she was just making it clear that you are just a friend and nothing more. I'm aware that sounds harsh but it's the reality. If these things were happening and she has changed her mind about pursuing a relationship with you, it's awful for you and you have every right to be sad about that. You say that being 'friendzoned' is the norm for you. Is it possible that you haven't given any indication that you are sexually attracted to these women, so they might just assume you're only looking for friendship? If a woman senses a man is interested in her but she doesn't feel the same she's usually quite quick to make it obvious how she feels. Perhaps you just haven't found the right lady for you? Yes we did all those things" Fair play mate, I'm impressed with your calm quiet replies. If you were a woman this would be a thread full of gushing sympathy and a dozen guys trying to hit on you. All the replies would be positive, people would do exactly what you asked and share their experiences. Being a bloke it isn't so simple. The idea that you could have started a relationship with someone and fallen for her only to be told she doesn't have the same feelings is too much for some to grasp. Obviously decent men don't exist so instead it's easier to accuse you of being an entitled incel. Fuck knows what goes on in some people's heads/lives to react the way so many have to what is a pretty obvious and open post about a feeling of loss. Gutted for you mate, but better to find out now than marry her only to find you've been friend zoned by your wife even if she won't admit it - that truly fucks with your mind. You'll find the right person for you, I just hope by the time you do you haven't built walls that'll take her years to take down. | |||
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"So dumped again this morning by someone I really liked. As usual tell me I'm so nice, told me things they haven't told anyone else but just don't fancy me but love to stay friends. Anyone else feel they are destined for the Friendzone forever more? There's no such thing as the friendzone, it's a word made up by incels to describe their lack of success with women and to make it sound like it's the woman's fault. When you say you were dumped were you actually in a relationship or is it more that you had feelings for someone and they were not reciprocated? If it's the latter then they thought of you as just a friend, you were the one who viewed it as more. Women are not vending machines that you put kindness coins into until sex falls out. Lol so many conclusions jumped too there Jesus. When did I mention sex. Sex isn't what I wanted even. We were dating and we got on fantasticily because we are both nice people. Just I liked her a lot and she didn't quite feel the same. Just seems to happen a lot to me. Don't feel any woman owes me anything, what a weird conclusion to jump to. My post is only to look for others that have similar experiences to try to understand mine better When you say dating what do you mean? Were you going out for meals, to the pub, the cinema etc? Was there any talk of a sexual relationship? Did you hold hands, cuddle on the sofa? If none of these happened then she thought of you just as a mate and you were just hanging out, in which case you weren't dumped and she was just making it clear that you are just a friend and nothing more. I'm aware that sounds harsh but it's the reality. If these things were happening and she has changed her mind about pursuing a relationship with you, it's awful for you and you have every right to be sad about that. You say that being 'friendzoned' is the norm for you. Is it possible that you haven't given any indication that you are sexually attracted to these women, so they might just assume you're only looking for friendship? If a woman senses a man is interested in her but she doesn't feel the same she's usually quite quick to make it obvious how she feels. Perhaps you just haven't found the right lady for you? Yes we did all those things Fair play mate, I'm impressed with your calm quiet replies. If you were a woman this would be a thread full of gushing sympathy and a dozen guys trying to hit on you. All the replies would be positive, people would do exactly what you asked and share their experiences. Being a bloke it isn't so simple. The idea that you could have started a relationship with someone and fallen for her only to be told she doesn't have the same feelings is too much for some to grasp. Obviously decent men don't exist so instead it's easier to accuse you of being an entitled incel. Fuck knows what goes on in some people's heads/lives to react the way so many have to what is a pretty obvious and open post about a feeling of loss. Gutted for you mate, but better to find out now than marry her only to find you've been friend zoned by your wife even if she won't admit it - that truly fucks with your mind. You'll find the right person for you, I just hope by the time you do you haven't built walls that'll take her years to take down. " I didn't say he was an incel. I said that the phrase 'friendzone' was created by them to excuse their lack of success with women. It's been well documented. Don't accuse me of saying things I haven't said. | |||
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