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"Well this is goodbye forever though maybe this time it would be different but dosent seem to be happy swingeing everyone " Really? Sorry to hear but all the best. You will certainly be missed in the forums, I am sure  | |||
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"Well this is goodbye forever though maybe this time it would be different but dosent seem to be happy swingeing everyone " never say forever say au revoir  | |||
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"Well this is goodbye forever though maybe this time it would be different but dosent seem to be happy swingeing everyone " No! Talk to me immediately. | |||
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"Well this is goodbye forever though maybe this time it would be different but dosent seem to be happy swingeing everyone No! Talk to me immediately. " This. Yes talk to someone. Happy to message me if you like. You only just hot back, has something happened? If nothing else just hide the profile for a day or two and see how you feel after that. You are a breath of fresh air in here. | |||
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"Well this is goodbye forever though maybe this time it would be different but dosent seem to be happy swingeing everyone "  I like your posts, you'll be missed.
Hoping life isn't treating you unkindly.
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There will always be room waiting for you though if you want to come back for a visit. Polly xxx | |||
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"Well this is goodbye forever though maybe this time it would be different but dosent seem to be happy swingeing everyone " Natalie-heaven.. take care xxx | |||
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"Next day and still here? Did you get the attention you wanted? Is it that easy? " I'm going out in a blaze of glory | |||
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"Next day and still here? Did you get the attention you wanted? Is it that easy? " In the case of this particular OP, not sure that's a fair assessment. | |||
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"Next day and still here? Did you get the attention you wanted? Is it that easy? I'm going out in a blaze of glory" Are you bon jovi really? | |||
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"She's still here though, a day after saying she's leaving, maybe changed her mind "Or she listened to the advice to hide the profile for a while instead of deleting. And changing your mind is very much allowed. J | |||
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"She's still here though, a day after saying she's leaving, maybe changed her mind "Hopefully. | |||
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"If you're leaving - just leave, no need to make an announcement, after all this isn't an airport departure lounge. Ta-Da, Cya .." Why? | |||
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"If you're leaving - just leave, no need to make an announcement, after all this isn't an airport departure lounge. Ta-Da, Cya .. Why?" Why not ? - this is an internet site - people come and they go - it's not the real world and the so called forum faithful will be forgotten about in an heartbeat. | |||
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"If you're leaving - just leave, no need to make an announcement, after all this isn't an airport departure lounge. Ta-Da, Cya .. Why? Why not ? - this is an internet site - people come and they go - it's not the real world and the so called forum faithful will be forgotten about in an heartbeat." Why can't they post a thread saying they're leaving? I'm going to. | |||
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"If you're leaving - just leave, no need to make an announcement, after all this isn't an airport departure lounge. Ta-Da, Cya .. Why? Why not ? - this is an internet site - people come and they go - it's not the real world and the so called forum faithful will be forgotten about in an heartbeat." You could scroll on by, there's no need to repeat that same crappy airport comment, it's hardly new. | |||
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"If you're leaving - just leave, no need to make an announcement, after all this isn't an airport departure lounge. Ta-Da, Cya .. Why? Why not ? - this is an internet site - people come and they go - it's not the real world and the so called forum faithful will be forgotten about in an heartbeat." Because someone somewhere will care about them. Not knowing where they went is the worst. And maybe they are reaching out at a critical moment. Be thankful you are not suffering | |||
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"If you're leaving - just leave, no need to make an announcement, after all this isn't an airport departure lounge. Ta-Da, Cya .. Why? Why not ? - this is an internet site - people come and they go - it's not the real world and the so called forum faithful will be forgotten about in an heartbeat. Because someone somewhere will care about them. Not knowing where they went is the worst. And maybe they are reaching out at a critical moment. Be thankful you are not suffering " Give over for heavens sake - get a grip | |||
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"If you're leaving - just leave, no need to make an announcement, after all this isn't an airport departure lounge. Ta-Da, Cya .. Why? Why not ? - this is an internet site - people come and they go - it's not the real world and the so called forum faithful will be forgotten about in an heartbeat. Because someone somewhere will care about them. Not knowing where they went is the worst. And maybe they are reaching out at a critical moment. Be thankful you are not suffering Give over for heavens sake - get a grip" Wonder if someone eeds to take their own advice  | |||
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"If you're leaving - just leave, no need to make an announcement, after all this isn't an airport departure lounge. Ta-Da, Cya .. Why? Why not ? - this is an internet site - people come and they go - it's not the real world and the so called forum faithful will be forgotten about in an heartbeat. Because someone somewhere will care about them. Not knowing where they went is the worst. And maybe they are reaching out at a critical moment. Be thankful you are not suffering Give over for heavens sake - get a grip Wonder if someone eeds to take their own advice "Not me, do you know someone who needs to ?? | |||
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"If you're leaving - just leave, no need to make an announcement, after all this isn't an airport departure lounge. Ta-Da, Cya .. Why? Why not ? - this is an internet site - people come and they go - it's not the real world and the so called forum faithful will be forgotten about in an heartbeat. Because someone somewhere will care about them. Not knowing where they went is the worst. And maybe they are reaching out at a critical moment. Be thankful you are not suffering Give over for heavens sake - get a grip Wonder if someone eeds to take their own advice
Not me, do you know someone who needs to ??"Why are you being so mean? You might not care but other people do. J | |||
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People make real friends on here, and it’s easier to post a thread than to message everyone.
If they want to, let them - and don’t make them feel bad for doing so.
We have no idea what another person is going through, so best just to be kind isn’t it? | |||
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"If you're leaving - just leave, no need to make an announcement, after all this isn't an airport departure lounge. Ta-Da, Cya .. Why? Why not ? - this is an internet site - people come and they go - it's not the real world and the so called forum faithful will be forgotten about in an heartbeat. Because someone somewhere will care about them. Not knowing where they went is the worst. And maybe they are reaching out at a critical moment. Be thankful you are not suffering Give over for heavens sake - get a grip Wonder if someone eeds to take their own advice
Not me, do you know someone who needs to ??"Taking this attitude isn't going to help improve your experience here. Responding this way tells more about you than you realise. *Shrugs* | |||
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"If you're leaving - just leave, no need to make an announcement, after all this isn't an airport departure lounge. Ta-Da, Cya .. Why? Why not ? - this is an internet site - people come and they go - it's not the real world and the so called forum faithful will be forgotten about in an heartbeat. Because someone somewhere will care about them. Not knowing where they went is the worst. And maybe they are reaching out at a critical moment. Be thankful you are not suffering Give over for heavens sake - get a grip Wonder if someone eeds to take their own advice
Not me, do you know someone who needs to ??"Just because you dont care doesn’t mean anybody else doesn’t. If you dont like it just scroll by. These no need to be so mean about it Believe it or not people have a lot of friends on here and it may be easier to send a message on the forums than message everyone individually | |||
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"If you're leaving - just leave, no need to make an announcement, after all this isn't an airport departure lounge. Ta-Da, Cya .. Why? Why not ? - this is an internet site - people come and they go - it's not the real world and the so called forum faithful will be forgotten about in an heartbeat. Because someone somewhere will care about them. Not knowing where they went is the worst. And maybe they are reaching out at a critical moment. Be thankful you are not suffering Give over for heavens sake - get a grip Wonder if someone eeds to take their own advice
Not me, do you know someone who needs to ??
Just because you dont care doesn’t mean anybody else doesn’t. If you dont like it just scroll by. These no need to be so mean about it
Believe it or not people have a lot of friends on here and it may be easier to send a message on the forums than message everyone individually "If this thread was started by a single male, I can assure you, and would bet a packet on it that it wouldn’t have as much support. But the old saying, nothing nice to say, don’t say anything at all, is probably fitting. But it’s not a male, so I must say something nice… Good luck op, keep safe.  | |||
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"If you're leaving - just leave, no need to make an announcement, after all this isn't an airport departure lounge. Ta-Da, Cya .. Why? Why not ? - this is an internet site - people come and they go - it's not the real world and the so called forum faithful will be forgotten about in an heartbeat. Because someone somewhere will care about them. Not knowing where they went is the worst. And maybe they are reaching out at a critical moment. Be thankful you are not suffering Give over for heavens sake - get a grip Wonder if someone eeds to take their own advice
Not me, do you know someone who needs to ??
Just because you dont care doesn’t mean anybody else doesn’t. If you dont like it just scroll by. These no need to be so mean about it
Believe it or not people have a lot of friends on here and it may be easier to send a message on the forums than message everyone individually
If this thread was started by a single male, I can assure you, and would bet a packet on it that it wouldn’t have as much support.
But the old saying, nothing nice to say, don’t say anything at all, is probably fitting.
But it’s not a male, so I must say something nice…
Good luck op, keep safe.
"Probably Woody. But the OP was someone who, in my short experience of them on fab, was unfailingly kind and cheerful. So if they reach out then people respond. There are several posters on this thread whose response means that their departure would probably be marked with a shrug and a wry smile. TLDR - you reap what you sow. J | |||
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"She's still here though, a day after saying she's leaving, maybe changed her mind
Or she listened to the advice to hide the profile for a while instead of deleting. And changing your mind is very much allowed.
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"If you're leaving - just leave, no need to make an announcement, after all this isn't an airport departure lounge. Ta-Da, Cya .. Why? Why not ? - this is an internet site - people come and they go - it's not the real world and the so called forum faithful will be forgotten about in an heartbeat. Because someone somewhere will care about them. Not knowing where they went is the worst. And maybe they are reaching out at a critical moment. Be thankful you are not suffering Give over for heavens sake - get a grip Wonder if someone eeds to take their own advice
Not me, do you know someone who needs to ??
Just because you dont care doesn’t mean anybody else doesn’t. If you dont like it just scroll by. These no need to be so mean about it
Believe it or not people have a lot of friends on here and it may be easier to send a message on the forums than message everyone individually
If this thread was started by a single male, I can assure you, and would bet a packet on it that it wouldn’t have as much support.
But the old saying, nothing nice to say, don’t say anything at all, is probably fitting.
But it’s not a male, so I must say something nice…
Good luck op, keep safe.
"You say something nice because you like a person and care. If you don't, you ignore. You're not obliged to say anything-positive or negative. | |||
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" If this thread was started by a single male, I can assure you, and would bet a packet on it that it wouldn’t have as much support. But the old saying, nothing nice to say, don’t say anything at all, is probably fitting. But it’s not a male, so I must say something nice… Good luck op, keep safe. "To be fair, whenever a regular contributer on the forums says they're leaving, there is lots of support and positive posts. Gender, sex, or sexuality play no part in that, it is just friendship (virtual or otherwise). Also, your "if you can't say anything nice..." ironically comes across as having quite the opposite vibe. Cal | |||
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"If you're leaving - just leave, no need to make an announcement, after all this isn't an airport departure lounge. Ta-Da, Cya .. Why? Why not ? - this is an internet site - people come and they go - it's not the real world and the so called forum faithful will be forgotten about in an heartbeat. Because someone somewhere will care about them. Not knowing where they went is the worst. And maybe they are reaching out at a critical moment. Be thankful you are not suffering Give over for heavens sake - get a grip Wonder if someone eeds to take their own advice
Not me, do you know someone who needs to ??
Just because you dont care doesn’t mean anybody else doesn’t. If you dont like it just scroll by. These no need to be so mean about it
Believe it or not people have a lot of friends on here and it may be easier to send a message on the forums than message everyone individually
If this thread was started by a single male, I can assure you, and would bet a packet on it that it wouldn’t have as much support.
But the old saying, nothing nice to say, don’t say anything at all, is probably fitting.
But it’s not a male, so I must say something nice…
Good luck op, keep safe.
"I disagree with so much of that Woody and not so much with other bits of it. | |||
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" If this thread was started by a single male, I can assure you, and would bet a packet on it that it wouldn’t have as much support. But the old saying, nothing nice to say, don’t say anything at all, is probably fitting. But it’s not a male, so I must say something nice… Good luck op, keep safe.
To be fair, whenever a regular contributer on the forums says they're leaving, there is lots of support and positive posts. Gender, sex, or sexuality play no part in that, it is just friendship (virtual or otherwise).
Also, your "if you can't say anything nice..." ironically comes across as having quite the opposite vibe.
Cal"Yes. If 'popular' males leave there is an outcrying of support. And sometimes not ... depending on the time of day and who is in that day. | |||
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"If you're leaving - just leave, no need to make an announcement, after all this isn't an airport departure lounge. Ta-Da, Cya .. Why? Why not ? - this is an internet site - people come and they go - it's not the real world and the so called forum faithful will be forgotten about in an heartbeat. Because someone somewhere will care about them. Not knowing where they went is the worst. And maybe they are reaching out at a critical moment. Be thankful you are not suffering Give over for heavens sake - get a grip Wonder if someone eeds to take their own advice
Not me, do you know someone who needs to ??
Just because you dont care doesn’t mean anybody else doesn’t. If you dont like it just scroll by. These no need to be so mean about it
Believe it or not people have a lot of friends on here and it may be easier to send a message on the forums than message everyone individually
If this thread was started by a single male, I can assure you, and would bet a packet on it that it wouldn’t have as much support.
But the old saying, nothing nice to say, don’t say anything at all, is probably fitting.
But it’s not a male, so I must say something nice…
Good luck op, keep safe.
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"Normalise people changing their minds about things!!!" Yes Steve, I think so. Maybe not. Could be though. I think no yes. | |||
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"If you're leaving - just leave, no need to make an announcement, after all this isn't an airport departure lounge. Ta-Da, Cya .. Why? Why not ? - this is an internet site - people come and they go - it's not the real world and the so called forum faithful will be forgotten about in an heartbeat. Because someone somewhere will care about them. Not knowing where they went is the worst. And maybe they are reaching out at a critical moment. Be thankful you are not suffering Give over for heavens sake - get a grip Wonder if someone eeds to take their own advice
Not me, do you know someone who needs to ??
Just because you dont care doesn’t mean anybody else doesn’t. If you dont like it just scroll by. These no need to be so mean about it
Believe it or not people have a lot of friends on here and it may be easier to send a message on the forums than message everyone individually
If this thread was started by a single male, I can assure you, and would bet a packet on it that it wouldn’t have as much support.
But the old saying, nothing nice to say, don’t say anything at all, is probably fitting.
But it’s not a male, so I must say something nice…
Good luck op, keep safe.
Errrmm it is a male that posted "If you knew anything about Natalie you would know she is not a man. Some of us might not quite reach your demanding standards for proof of female gender, but we are certainly something different than "male". Probably a topic for a separate thread though. My apology to Natalie for highjacking her thread even briefly. | |||
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"If you're leaving - just leave, no need to make an announcement, after all this isn't an airport departure lounge. Ta-Da, Cya .. Why? Why not ? - this is an internet site - people come and they go - it's not the real world and the so called forum faithful will be forgotten about in an heartbeat. Because someone somewhere will care about them. Not knowing where they went is the worst. And maybe they are reaching out at a critical moment. Be thankful you are not suffering Give over for heavens sake - get a grip Wonder if someone eeds to take their own advice
Not me, do you know someone who needs to ??
Just because you dont care doesn’t mean anybody else doesn’t. If you dont like it just scroll by. These no need to be so mean about it
Believe it or not people have a lot of friends on here and it may be easier to send a message on the forums than message everyone individually
If this thread was started by a single male, I can assure you, and would bet a packet on it that it wouldn’t have as much support.
But the old saying, nothing nice to say, don’t say anything at all, is probably fitting.
But it’s not a male, so I must say something nice…
Good luck op, keep safe.
I disagree with so much of that Woody and not so much with other bits of it. "I stand by what I said, and maybe my tone wasn’t as sympathetic as it was meant to be. Because no matter who leaves when I can sense it’s with good reason (and not just throwing toys from a pram) I genuinely wish anyone good luck. 
I type a lot without explaining,.. so this - “ nothing nice to say, don’t say anything at all, is probably fitting. ” is pretty much a reminder for other reader, and wasn’t a reflection of what I was typing. *if that makes sense.
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"If you're leaving - just leave, no need to make an announcement, after all this isn't an airport departure lounge. Ta-Da, Cya .. Why? Why not ? - this is an internet site - people come and they go - it's not the real world and the so called forum faithful will be forgotten about in an heartbeat. Because someone somewhere will care about them. Not knowing where they went is the worst. And maybe they are reaching out at a critical moment. Be thankful you are not suffering Give over for heavens sake - get a grip Wonder if someone eeds to take their own advice
Not me, do you know someone who needs to ??
Just because you dont care doesn’t mean anybody else doesn’t. If you dont like it just scroll by. These no need to be so mean about it
Believe it or not people have a lot of friends on here and it may be easier to send a message on the forums than message everyone individually
If this thread was started by a single male, I can assure you, and would bet a packet on it that it wouldn’t have as much support.
But the old saying, nothing nice to say, don’t say anything at all, is probably fitting.
But it’s not a male, so I must say something nice…
Good luck op, keep safe.
I disagree with so much of that Woody and not so much with other bits of it.
I stand by what I said, and maybe my tone wasn’t as sympathetic as it was meant to be. Because no matter who leaves when I can sense it’s with good reason (and not just throwing toys from a pram) I genuinely wish anyone good luck.
I type a lot without explaining,.. so this - “ nothing nice to say, don’t say anything at all, is probably fitting. ” is pretty much a reminder for other reader, and wasn’t a reflection of what I was typing. *if that makes sense.
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"If you're leaving - just leave, no need to make an announcement, after all this isn't an airport departure lounge. Ta-Da, Cya .. Why? Why not ? - this is an internet site - people come and they go - it's not the real world and the so called forum faithful will be forgotten about in an heartbeat. Because someone somewhere will care about them. Not knowing where they went is the worst. And maybe they are reaching out at a critical moment. Be thankful you are not suffering Give over for heavens sake - get a grip Wonder if someone eeds to take their own advice
Not me, do you know someone who needs to ??
Just because you dont care doesn’t mean anybody else doesn’t. If you dont like it just scroll by. These no need to be so mean about it
Believe it or not people have a lot of friends on here and it may be easier to send a message on the forums than message everyone individually
If this thread was started by a single male, I can assure you, and would bet a packet on it that it wouldn’t have as much support.
But the old saying, nothing nice to say, don’t say anything at all, is probably fitting.
But it’s not a male, so I must say something nice…
Good luck op, keep safe.
I disagree with so much of that Woody and not so much with other bits of it.
I stand by what I said, and maybe my tone wasn’t as sympathetic as it was meant to be. Because no matter who leaves when I can sense it’s with good reason (and not just throwing toys from a pram) I genuinely wish anyone good luck.
I type a lot without explaining,.. so this - “ nothing nice to say, don’t say anything at all, is probably fitting. ” is pretty much a reminder for other reader, and wasn’t a reflection of what I was typing. *if that makes sense.
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"….. I disagree with so much of that Woody and not so much with other bits of it. I stand by what I said, and maybe my tone wasn’t as sympathetic as it was meant to be. Because no matter who leaves when I can sense it’s with good reason (and not just throwing toys from a pram) I genuinely wish anyone good luck.
I type a lot without explaining,.. so this - “ nothing nice to say, don’t say anything at all, is probably fitting. ” is pretty much a reminder for other reader, and wasn’t a reflection of what I was typing. *if that makes sense.
Even if they are having a strop-for whatever reason-does that mean people can be sparky?
Just leave the thread alone if it bothers them.
"That’s kind of what I said. (Nothing good to say etc). But also, some people might post at the wrong time. So if I’m in one of my moods (or I expect others might be), and I see someone post some self centred attention seeking bullshit (I’m not referring to this thread) the op of that, I’m thinking of leaving type thread might not get what they bargained for. That’s how I see it. We get what we deserve. For the reason I wouldn’t do this, and I’d advise others not to. There will be some that can’t wait to see the back of you, and I’d hate to read that. I wouldn’t wish that in anyone, no matter how much I don’t get along with them. | |||
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"If you're leaving - just leave, no need to make an announcement, after all this isn't an airport departure lounge. Ta-Da, Cya .. Why? Why not ? - this is an internet site - people come and they go - it's not the real world and the so called forum faithful will be forgotten about in an heartbeat. Because someone somewhere will care about them. Not knowing where they went is the worst. And maybe they are reaching out at a critical moment. Be thankful you are not suffering Give over for heavens sake - get a grip Wonder if someone eeds to take their own advice
Not me, do you know someone who needs to ??
Just because you dont care doesn’t mean anybody else doesn’t. If you dont like it just scroll by. These no need to be so mean about it
Believe it or not people have a lot of friends on here and it may be easier to send a message on the forums than message everyone individually
If this thread was started by a single male, I can assure you, and would bet a packet on it that it wouldn’t have as much support.
But the old saying, nothing nice to say, don’t say anything at all, is probably fitting.
But it’s not a male, so I must say something nice…
Good luck op, keep safe.
Errrmm it is a male that posted
If you knew anything about Natalie you would know she is not a man. Some of us might not quite reach your demanding standards for proof of female gender, but we are certainly something different than "male". Probably a topic for a separate thread though. My apology to Natalie for highjacking her thread even briefly."Does Natalie have a cock? | |||
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Not me, do you know someone who needs to ??
Just because you dont care doesn’t mean anybody else doesn’t. If you dont like it just scroll by. These no need to be so mean about it
Believe it or not people have a lot of friends on here and it may be easier to send a message on the forums than message everyone individually
If this thread was started by a single male, I can assure you, and would bet a packet on it that it wouldn’t have as much support.
But the old saying, nothing nice to say, don’t say anything at all, is probably fitting.
But it’s not a male, so I must say something nice…
Good luck op, keep safe.
Errrmm it is a male that posted
If you knew anything about Natalie you would know she is not a man. Some of us might not quite reach your demanding standards for proof of female gender, but we are certainly something different than "male". Probably a topic for a separate thread though. My apology to Natalie for highjacking her thread even briefly.
Does Natalie have a cock?
"You can remove a cock, and people often do. But I don't think it's essential to be a transwomen. And I don't care if that is colloquially called a 'woman', as long as the appropriate laws and certain protections are in place (for the young and questioning, for certain spaces and for general women's rights etc). Look, this whole matter gives people a lot of one of the biggest pains you can get - identity pain. To belittle that is just cruel. Hormones etc are part of biology too, not just certain organs! And a man in India was once born with a (non-functional) womb. It's all out there, and we need a 'trans' thread where that question can be debated better imo. pt | |||
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"If you're leaving - just leave, no need to make an announcement, after all this isn't an airport departure lounge. Ta-Da, Cya .. Why? Why not ? - this is an internet site - people come and they go - it's not the real world and the so called forum faithful will be forgotten about in an heartbeat. Because someone somewhere will care about them. Not knowing where they went is the worst. And maybe they are reaching out at a critical moment. Be thankful you are not suffering Give over for heavens sake - get a grip Wonder if someone eeds to take their own advice
Not me, do you know someone who needs to ??
Just because you dont care doesn’t mean anybody else doesn’t. If you dont like it just scroll by. These no need to be so mean about it
Believe it or not people have a lot of friends on here and it may be easier to send a message on the forums than message everyone individually
If this thread was started by a single male, I can assure you, and would bet a packet on it that it wouldn’t have as much support.
But the old saying, nothing nice to say, don’t say anything at all, is probably fitting.
But it’s not a male, so I must say something nice…
Good luck op, keep safe.
I disagree with so much of that Woody and not so much with other bits of it.
I stand by what I said, and maybe my tone wasn’t as sympathetic as it was meant to be. Because no matter who leaves when I can sense it’s with good reason (and not just throwing toys from a pram) I genuinely wish anyone good luck.
I type a lot without explaining,.. so this - “ nothing nice to say, don’t say anything at all, is probably fitting. ” is pretty much a reminder for other reader, and wasn’t a reflection of what I was typing. *if that makes sense.
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Not me, do you know someone who needs to ??
Just because you dont care doesn’t mean anybody else doesn’t. If you dont like it just scroll by. These no need to be so mean about it
Believe it or not people have a lot of friends on here and it may be easier to send a message on the forums than message everyone individually
If this thread was started by a single male, I can assure you, and would bet a packet on it that it wouldn’t have as much support.
But the old saying, nothing nice to say, don’t say anything at all, is probably fitting.
But it’s not a male, so I must say something nice…
Good luck op, keep safe.
Errrmm it is a male that posted
If you knew anything about Natalie you would know she is not a man. Some of us might not quite reach your demanding standards for proof of female gender, but we are certainly something different than "male". Probably a topic for a separate thread though. My apology to Natalie for highjacking her thread even briefly.
Does Natalie have a cock?"I have no idea, I have never searched inside her knickers. Similarly there are many other women who's knickers I have not looked inside. In fact I would venture to say that out of the hundreds of thousands of women that I have seen during my life, and the probably tens of thousands I have gone as far as speaking with, there must be only a hundred or so that I have seen the unclothed genitalia of in person. | |||
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Not me, do you know someone who needs to ??
Just because you dont care doesn’t mean anybody else doesn’t. If you dont like it just scroll by. These no need to be so mean about it
Believe it or not people have a lot of friends on here and it may be easier to send a message on the forums than message everyone individually
If this thread was started by a single male, I can assure you, and would bet a packet on it that it wouldn’t have as much support.
But the old saying, nothing nice to say, don’t say anything at all, is probably fitting.
But it’s not a male, so I must say something nice…
Good luck op, keep safe.
Errrmm it is a male that posted
If you knew anything about Natalie you would know she is not a man. Some of us might not quite reach your demanding standards for proof of female gender, but we are certainly something different than "male". Probably a topic for a separate thread though. My apology to Natalie for highjacking her thread even briefly.
Does Natalie have a cock?
I have no idea, I have never searched inside her knickers. Similarly there are many other women who's knickers I have not looked inside. In fact I would venture to say that out of the hundreds of thousands of women that I have seen during my life, and the probably tens of thousands I have gone as far as speaking with, there must be only a hundred or so that I have seen the unclothed genitalia of in person.
"If said person has a cock and has never had any female internal parts then said person is a male! Call yourself what you want but it doesn’t change fact | |||
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Not me, do you know someone who needs to ??
Just because you dont care doesn’t mean anybody else doesn’t. If you dont like it just scroll by. These no need to be so mean about it
Believe it or not people have a lot of friends on here and it may be easier to send a message on the forums than message everyone individually
If this thread was started by a single male, I can assure you, and would bet a packet on it that it wouldn’t have as much support.
But the old saying, nothing nice to say, don’t say anything at all, is probably fitting.
But it’s not a male, so I must say something nice…
Good luck op, keep safe.
Errrmm it is a male that posted
If you knew anything about Natalie you would know she is not a man. Some of us might not quite reach your demanding standards for proof of female gender, but we are certainly something different than "male". Probably a topic for a separate thread though. My apology to Natalie for highjacking her thread even briefly.
Does Natalie have a cock?
You can remove a cock, and people often do. But I don't think it's essential to be a transwomen. And I don't care if that is colloquially called a 'woman', as long as the appropriate laws and certain protections are in place (for the young and questioning, for certain spaces and for general women's rights etc).
Look, this whole matter gives people a lot of one of the biggest pains you can get - identity pain. To belittle that is just cruel. Hormones etc are part of biology too, not just certain organs! And a man in India was once born with a (non-functional) womb. It's all out there, and we need a 'trans' thread where that question can be debated better imo. pt"See my last comment | |||
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Errrmm it is a male that posted
Sorry. My mistake, hopefully my correction above helps you out, because you seem to have a problem with what I said. "It is a male if no operation to remove the cock has been done | |||
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Errrmm it is a male that posted
Sorry. My mistake, hopefully my correction above helps you out, because you seem to have a problem with what I said.
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Not me, do you know someone who needs to ??
Just because you dont care doesn’t mean anybody else doesn’t. If you dont like it just scroll by. These no need to be so mean about it
Believe it or not people have a lot of friends on here and it may be easier to send a message on the forums than message everyone individually
If this thread was started by a single male, I can assure you, and would bet a packet on it that it wouldn’t have as much support.
But the old saying, nothing nice to say, don’t say anything at all, is probably fitting.
But it’s not a male, so I must say something nice…
Good luck op, keep safe.
Errrmm it is a male that posted
If you knew anything about Natalie you would know she is not a man. Some of us might not quite reach your demanding standards for proof of female gender, but we are certainly something different than "male". Probably a topic for a separate thread though. My apology to Natalie for highjacking her thread even briefly.
Does Natalie have a cock?
You can remove a cock, and people often do. But I don't think it's essential to be a transwomen. And I don't care if that is colloquially called a 'woman', as long as the appropriate laws and certain protections are in place (for the young and questioning, for certain spaces and for general women's rights etc).
Look, this whole matter gives people a lot of one of the biggest pains you can get - identity pain. To belittle that is just cruel. Hormones etc are part of biology too, not just certain organs! And a man in India was once born with a (non-functional) womb. It's all out there, and we need a 'trans' thread where that question can be debated better imo. pt
See my last comment
"See *my* last comment. I'm talking trans, you are just repeatedly slamming the table essentially, which of course gets everyone nowhere. The key is in the definition of 'trans' as a legal working definition of a sex rather than a gender (ie 'trans' when short for transexual rather then transgender - transwomen and transmen, colloquially called woman and men to many of us). After that it's about gender, society and kindness. pt | |||
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Not me, do you know someone who needs to ??
Just because you dont care doesn’t mean anybody else doesn’t. If you dont like it just scroll by. These no need to be so mean about it
Believe it or not people have a lot of friends on here and it may be easier to send a message on the forums than message everyone individually
If this thread was started by a single male, I can assure you, and would bet a packet on it that it wouldn’t have as much support.
But the old saying, nothing nice to say, don’t say anything at all, is probably fitting.
But it’s not a male, so I must say something nice…
Good luck op, keep safe.
Errrmm it is a male that posted
If you knew anything about Natalie you would know she is not a man. Some of us might not quite reach your demanding standards for proof of female gender, but we are certainly something different than "male". Probably a topic for a separate thread though. My apology to Natalie for highjacking her thread even briefly.
Does Natalie have a cock?
You can remove a cock, and people often do. But I don't think it's essential to be a transwomen. And I don't care if that is colloquially called a 'woman', as long as the appropriate laws and certain protections are in place (for the young and questioning, for certain spaces and for general women's rights etc).
Look, this whole matter gives people a lot of one of the biggest pains you can get - identity pain. To belittle that is just cruel. Hormones etc are part of biology too, not just certain organs! And a man in India was once born with a (non-functional) womb. It's all out there, and we need a 'trans' thread where that question can be debated better imo. pt
See my last comment
See *my* last comment. I'm talking trans, you are just repeatedly slamming the table essentially, which of course gets everyone nowhere. The key is in the definition of 'trans' as a legal working definition of a sex rather than a gender (ie 'trans' when short for transexual rather then transgender - transwomen and transmen, colloquially called woman and men to many of us). After that it's about gender, society and kindness.
pt
"There are males and females! Females that dress as males and males that dress as females (trans) Unless a male or female have had the gender reassignment operation you are whatever you were born at birth as. If you have a cock you are male, if you have a vagina you are a female, regardless of whatever anyone calls themselves with made up names to make themselves feel better, you can’t change fact. | |||
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Not me, do you know someone who needs to ??
Just because you dont care doesn’t mean anybody else doesn’t. If you dont like it just scroll by. These no need to be so mean about it
Believe it or not people have a lot of friends on here and it may be easier to send a message on the forums than message everyone individually
If this thread was started by a single male, I can assure you, and would bet a packet on it that it wouldn’t have as much support.
But the old saying, nothing nice to say, don’t say anything at all, is probably fitting.
But it’s not a male, so I must say something nice…
Good luck op, keep safe.
Errrmm it is a male that posted
If you knew anything about Natalie you would know she is not a man. Some of us might not quite reach your demanding standards for proof of female gender, but we are certainly something different than "male". Probably a topic for a separate thread though. My apology to Natalie for highjacking her thread even briefly.
Does Natalie have a cock?
You can remove a cock, and people often do. But I don't think it's essential to be a transwomen. And I don't care if that is colloquially called a 'woman', as long as the appropriate laws and certain protections are in place (for the young and questioning, for certain spaces and for general women's rights etc).
Look, this whole matter gives people a lot of one of the biggest pains you can get - identity pain. To belittle that is just cruel. Hormones etc are part of biology too, not just certain organs! And a man in India was once born with a (non-functional) womb. It's all out there, and we need a 'trans' thread where that question can be debated better imo. pt
See my last comment
See *my* last comment. I'm talking trans, you are just repeatedly slamming the table essentially, which of course gets everyone nowhere. The key is in the definition of 'trans' as a legal working definition of a sex rather than a gender (ie 'trans' when short for transexual rather then transgender - transwomen and transmen, colloquially called woman and men to many of us). After that it's about gender, society and kindness.
pt
There are males and females!
Females that dress as males and males that dress as females (trans)
Unless a male or female have had the gender reassignment operation you are whatever you were born at birth as.
If you have a cock you are male, if you have a vagina you are a female, regardless of whatever anyone calls themselves with made up names to make themselves feel better, you can’t change fact. "So you keep saying. | |||
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"Lol great read love it.
Ps..OP see you're still here so
Bye
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"Lol great read love it.
Ps..OP see you're still here so
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How do you know the OP is still here? That's just a guess isn't it? pt"The profile just hidden and not deleted kind of suggests it! | |||
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"Ffs typical fab...this escalated quickly. Why people can't just bypass a thread or just plain and simply say bye is beyond me "Yep | |||
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Ps..OP see you're still here so
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How do you know the OP is still here? That's just a guess isn't it? pt"They only hidden profile they will be back... We all come back as we can checkout but never truly leave. | |||
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Not me, do you know someone who needs to ??
Just because you dont care doesn’t mean anybody else doesn’t. If you dont like it just scroll by. These no need to be so mean about it
Believe it or not people have a lot of friends on here and it may be easier to send a message on the forums than message everyone individually
If this thread was started by a single male, I can assure you, and would bet a packet on it that it wouldn’t have as much support.
But the old saying, nothing nice to say, don’t say anything at all, is probably fitting.
But it’s not a male, so I must say something nice…
Good luck op, keep safe.
Errrmm it is a male that posted
If you knew anything about Natalie you would know she is not a man. Some of us might not quite reach your demanding standards for proof of female gender, but we are certainly something different than "male". Probably a topic for a separate thread though. My apology to Natalie for highjacking her thread even briefly.
Does Natalie have a cock?
You can remove a cock, and people often do. But I don't think it's essential to be a transwomen. And I don't care if that is colloquially called a 'woman', as long as the appropriate laws and certain protections are in place (for the young and questioning, for certain spaces and for general women's rights etc).
Look, this whole matter gives people a lot of one of the biggest pains you can get - identity pain. To belittle that is just cruel. Hormones etc are part of biology too, not just certain organs! And a man in India was once born with a (non-functional) womb. It's all out there, and we need a 'trans' thread where that question can be debated better imo. pt
See my last comment
See *my* last comment. I'm talking trans, you are just repeatedly slamming the table essentially, which of course gets everyone nowhere. The key is in the definition of 'trans' as a legal working definition of a sex rather than a gender (ie 'trans' when short for transexual rather then transgender - transwomen and transmen, colloquially called woman and men to many of us). After that it's about gender, society and kindness.
pt
There are males and females!
Females that dress as males and males that dress as females (trans)
Unless a male or female have had the gender reassignment operation you are whatever you were born at birth as.
If you have a cock you are male, if you have a vagina you are a female, regardless of whatever anyone calls themselves with made up names to make themselves feel better, you can’t change fact.
"You are rude and LAZY to the extreme imo. I have never personally said *anything* has to change! I know all about the facts. This is about additional terminology that is clearly needed at this stage of our crawling human development. It's about sex, gender, legality and kindness. And you won't find a man more into traditional women's rights than I am. pt | |||
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"Ffs typical fab...this escalated quickly. Why people can't just bypass a thread or just plain and simply say bye is beyond me
Agreed.
Obviously you both can do the same though "This is why we have the word "antagonist" | |||
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"Ffs typical fab...this escalated quickly. Why people can't just bypass a thread or just plain and simply say bye is beyond me
Agreed.
Obviously you both can do the same though
This is why we have the word "antagonist"
"I dunno, but 'irony' is another word too Everything can be ignored here.
The TV/TS debate will always crop up every now and again. Given the poster of this thread, it may even be part of the reason for leaving who knows. I'd like to see a trans (or TV/TS) room if possible btw. This stuff will always come out somewhere. That gets criticised, but imagine if it couldn't come out anywhere? pt | |||
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"Ffs typical fab...this escalated quickly. Why people can't just bypass a thread or just plain and simply say bye is beyond me
Agreed.
Obviously you both can do the same though
This is why we have the word "antagonist"
I dunno, but 'irony' is another word too Everything can be ignored here.
The TV/TS debate will always crop up every now and again. Given the poster of this thread, it may even be part of the reason for leaving who knows. I'd like to see a trans (or TV/TS) room if possible btw. This stuff will always come out somewhere. That gets criticised, but imagine if it couldn't come out anywhere? pt "I'll leave you to continue disrupting the thread. Oh and back to topic.....Bye Nat x | |||
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Not me, do you know someone who needs to ??
Just because you dont care doesn’t mean anybody else doesn’t. If you dont like it just scroll by. These no need to be so mean about it
Believe it or not people have a lot of friends on here and it may be easier to send a message on the forums than message everyone individually
If this thread was started by a single male, I can assure you, and would bet a packet on it that it wouldn’t have as much support.
But the old saying, nothing nice to say, don’t say anything at all, is probably fitting.
But it’s not a male, so I must say something nice…
Good luck op, keep safe.
Errrmm it is a male that posted
If you knew anything about Natalie you would know she is not a man. Some of us might not quite reach your demanding standards for proof of female gender, but we are certainly something different than "male". Probably a topic for a separate thread though. My apology to Natalie for highjacking her thread even briefly.
Does Natalie have a cock?
You can remove a cock, and people often do. But I don't think it's essential to be a transwomen. And I don't care if that is colloquially called a 'woman', as long as the appropriate laws and certain protections are in place (for the young and questioning, for certain spaces and for general women's rights etc).
Look, this whole matter gives people a lot of one of the biggest pains you can get - identity pain. To belittle that is just cruel. Hormones etc are part of biology too, not just certain organs! And a man in India was once born with a (non-functional) womb. It's all out there, and we need a 'trans' thread where that question can be debated better imo. pt
See my last comment
See *my* last comment. I'm talking trans, you are just repeatedly slamming the table essentially, which of course gets everyone nowhere. The key is in the definition of 'trans' as a legal working definition of a sex rather than a gender (ie 'trans' when short for transexual rather then transgender - transwomen and transmen, colloquially called woman and men to many of us). After that it's about gender, society and kindness.
pt
There are males and females!
Females that dress as males and males that dress as females (trans)
Unless a male or female have had the gender reassignment operation you are whatever you were born at birth as.
If you have a cock you are male, if you have a vagina you are a female, regardless of whatever anyone calls themselves with made up names to make themselves feel better, you can’t change fact.
You are rude and LAZY to the extreme imo. I have never personally said *anything* has to change! I know all about the facts. This is about additional terminology that is clearly needed at this stage of our crawling human development. It's about sex, gender, legality and kindness. And you won't find a man more into traditional women's rights than I am.
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"Ffs typical fab...this escalated quickly. Why people can't just bypass a thread or just plain and simply say bye is beyond me
Agreed.
Obviously you both can do the same though
As can you.
It's difficult to buy bite, isn't it?
"I haven't commented on the thread content in this sense at all though. I've not spoken to the OP much at all, but as I do care (and obviously most of us do) I feel it's at least partly a message to me, and I've just joined in the debate. pt | |||
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"Ffs typical fab...this escalated quickly. Why people can't just bypass a thread or just plain and simply say bye is beyond me
Agreed.
Obviously you both can do the same though
This is why we have the word "antagonist"
I dunno, but 'irony' is another word too Everything can be ignored here.
The TV/TS debate will always crop up every now and again. Given the poster of this thread, it may even be part of the reason for leaving who knows. I'd like to see a trans (or TV/TS) room if possible btw. This stuff will always come out somewhere. That gets criticised, but imagine if it couldn't come out anywhere? pt
I'll leave you to continue disrupting the thread.
Oh and back to topic.....Bye Nat x
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"If you're leaving - just leave, no need to make an announcement, after all this isn't an airport departure lounge. Ta-Da, Cya .. Why? Why not ? - this is an internet site - people come and they go - it's not the real world and the so called forum faithful will be forgotten about in an heartbeat. Because someone somewhere will care about them. Not knowing where they went is the worst. And maybe they are reaching out at a critical moment. Be thankful you are not suffering Give over for heavens sake - get a grip Wonder if someone eeds to take their own advice
Not me, do you know someone who needs to ??
Just because you dont care doesn’t mean anybody else doesn’t. If you dont like it just scroll by. These no need to be so mean about it
Believe it or not people have a lot of friends on here and it may be easier to send a message on the forums than message everyone individually
If this thread was started by a single male, I can assure you, and would bet a packet on it that it wouldn’t have as much support.
But the old saying, nothing nice to say, don’t say anything at all, is probably fitting.
But it’s not a male, so I must say something nice…
Good luck op, keep safe.
Errrmm it is a male that posted
If you knew anything about Natalie you would know she is not a man. Some of us might not quite reach your demanding standards for proof of female gender, but we are certainly something different than "male". Probably a topic for a separate thread though. My apology to Natalie for highjacking her thread even briefly.
Does Natalie have a cock?
You can remove a cock, and people often do. But I don't think it's essential to be a transwomen. And I don't care if that is colloquially called a 'woman', as long as the appropriate laws and certain protections are in place (for the young and questioning, for certain spaces and for general women's rights etc).
Look, this whole matter gives people a lot of one of the biggest pains you can get - identity pain. To belittle that is just cruel. Hormones etc are part of biology too, not just certain organs! And a man in India was once born with a (non-functional) womb. It's all out there, and we need a 'trans' thread where that question can be debated better imo. pt
See my last comment
See *my* last comment. I'm talking trans, you are just repeatedly slamming the table essentially, which of course gets everyone nowhere. The key is in the definition of 'trans' as a legal working definition of a sex rather than a gender (ie 'trans' when short for transexual rather then transgender - transwomen and transmen, colloquially called woman and men to many of us). After that it's about gender, society and kindness.
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There are males and females!
Females that dress as males and males that dress as females (trans)
Unless a male or female have had the gender reassignment operation you are whatever you were born at birth as.
If you have a cock you are male, if you have a vagina you are a female, regardless of whatever anyone calls themselves with made up names to make themselves feel better, you can’t change fact.
You are rude and LAZY to the extreme imo. I have never personally said *anything* has to change! I know all about the facts. This is about additional terminology that is clearly needed at this stage of our crawling human development. It's about sex, gender, legality and kindness. And you won't find a man more into traditional women's rights than I am.
pt
Lazy? Haha how did you come up with that one?
"Because you appear to be treating everyone the same in terms of people 'not understanding basic facts' (do you think we are all stupid?) and you're not prepared to follow clearly-needed progressive argument (this isn't going to go away) ... nor as has been said empathise much re the OP regarding gender complexity or indeed difficulty (or indeed any difficulty) either. pt | |||
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"Ffs typical fab...this escalated quickly. Why people can't just bypass a thread or just plain and simply say bye is beyond me
Agreed.
Obviously you both can do the same though
As can you.
It's difficult to buy bite, isn't it?
I haven't commented on the thread content in this sense at all though. I've not spoken to the OP much at all, but as I do care (and obviously most of us do) I feel it's at least partly a message to me, and I've just joined in the debate. pt"I'm not sure in which content you refer, or what you take is partly a message to you. I've said time and again, that this is supposedly an adult site and therefore people should act as such. In moments such as this, the two reasonable choices are to either wish them well, or to ignore and simply pass on by. I will always speak up about nonsense behaviour. More so here, an adult site, with a so called community. What happened to the 'be kind' movement eh? People should know to do better. We have no idea what another is going through, so let's not add to that with snide, attacking, unnecessary remarks. You don't have to understand to realise to leave them be or wish them well. That's not aimed personally towards you, pt. | |||
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"If you're leaving - just leave, no need to make an announcement, after all this isn't an airport departure lounge. Ta-Da, Cya .. Why? Why not ? - this is an internet site - people come and they go - it's not the real world and the so called forum faithful will be forgotten about in an heartbeat. Because someone somewhere will care about them. Not knowing where they went is the worst. And maybe they are reaching out at a critical moment. Be thankful you are not suffering Give over for heavens sake - get a grip Wonder if someone eeds to take their own advice
Not me, do you know someone who needs to ??
Just because you dont care doesn’t mean anybody else doesn’t. If you dont like it just scroll by. These no need to be so mean about it
Believe it or not people have a lot of friends on here and it may be easier to send a message on the forums than message everyone individually
If this thread was started by a single male, I can assure you, and would bet a packet on it that it wouldn’t have as much support.
But the old saying, nothing nice to say, don’t say anything at all, is probably fitting.
But it’s not a male, so I must say something nice…
Good luck op, keep safe.
Errrmm it is a male that posted
If you knew anything about Natalie you would know she is not a man. Some of us might not quite reach your demanding standards for proof of female gender, but we are certainly something different than "male". Probably a topic for a separate thread though. My apology to Natalie for highjacking her thread even briefly.
Does Natalie have a cock?
You can remove a cock, and people often do. But I don't think it's essential to be a transwomen. And I don't care if that is colloquially called a 'woman', as long as the appropriate laws and certain protections are in place (for the young and questioning, for certain spaces and for general women's rights etc).
Look, this whole matter gives people a lot of one of the biggest pains you can get - identity pain. To belittle that is just cruel. Hormones etc are part of biology too, not just certain organs! And a man in India was once born with a (non-functional) womb. It's all out there, and we need a 'trans' thread where that question can be debated better imo. pt
See my last comment
See *my* last comment. I'm talking trans, you are just repeatedly slamming the table essentially, which of course gets everyone nowhere. The key is in the definition of 'trans' as a legal working definition of a sex rather than a gender (ie 'trans' when short for transexual rather then transgender - transwomen and transmen, colloquially called woman and men to many of us). After that it's about gender, society and kindness.
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There are males and females!
Females that dress as males and males that dress as females (trans)
Unless a male or female have had the gender reassignment operation you are whatever you were born at birth as.
If you have a cock you are male, if you have a vagina you are a female, regardless of whatever anyone calls themselves with made up names to make themselves feel better, you can’t change fact.
You are rude and LAZY to the extreme imo. I have never personally said *anything* has to change! I know all about the facts. This is about additional terminology that is clearly needed at this stage of our crawling human development. It's about sex, gender, legality and kindness. And you won't find a man more into traditional women's rights than I am.
pt
Lazy? Haha how did you come up with that one?
Because you appear to be treating everyone the same in terms of people 'not understanding basic facts' (do you think we are all stupid?) and you're not prepared to follow clearly-needed progressive argument (this isn't going to go away) ... nor as has been said empathise much re the OP regarding gender complexity or indeed difficulty (or indeed any difficulty) either.
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"Ffs typical fab...this escalated quickly. Why people can't just bypass a thread or just plain and simply say bye is beyond me
Agreed.
Obviously you both can do the same though
As can you.
It's difficult to buy bite, isn't it?
-I haven't commented on the thread content in this sense at all though. I've not spoken to the OP much at all, but as I do care (and obviously most of us do) I feel it's at least partly a message to me, and I've just joined in the debate.
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I'm not sure in which content you refer, or what you take is partly a message to you.
I've said time and again, that this is supposedly an adult site and therefore people should act as such.
In moments such as this, the two reasonable choices are to either wish them well, or to ignore and simply pass on by.
I will always speak up about nonsense behaviour.
More so here, an adult site, with a so called community.
What happened to the 'be kind' movement eh?
People should know to do better.
We have no idea what another is going through, so let's not add to that with snide, attacking, unnecessary remarks.
You don't have to understand to realise to leave them be or wish them well.
That's not aimed personally towards you, pt.
"-I broadly agree (I just meant that I feel I'm just commenting not biting - but these things can somewhat descend by the end). Though I defend the OP's thread it is a bit ambiguous (I often found her posts welcome but a bit hard to follow sometimes tbh) and I've got to say she's not going to be shocked as to how it's gone I don't think (hopefully not even the many kind words). She's been on here far too long for that! pt | |||
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