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"It's only a rip off it's a necessity....the lottery is not a necessity." still think it's feeding off the desperation of many poor people and people trying to survive ! | |||
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"It's only a rip off it's a necessity....the lottery is not a necessity. still think it's feeding off the desperation of many poor people and people trying to survive !" If you were trying to survive you would the money on a loaf of bread and a couple of tins of beans....not on the lottery. | |||
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"It's only a rip off it's a necessity....the lottery is not a necessity. still think it's feeding off the desperation of many poor people and people trying to survive ! If you were trying to survive you would the money on a loaf of bread and a couple of tins of beans....not on the lottery." if you were about to get your house repposesed because you work in the construction idustry and your income has fallen back to what it was 25yrs ago you might give the loaf of bread a miss ! the fact is more people are doing the lottery again and suddenly it needs to go up ! | |||
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"so it catches up with inflation after how any years ? and how much do you happily pay for the euro millions? " guess the guy in haverhill who had a failing business that won a 148 million thought it was worth a punt ! as for inflation the inland revenue seem to think that after 20 plus years of allowing the self employed to claim 40p a mile back from when diesel was less than 60p a litre to putting it up to 45p last april when it has risen to about £1.40 a litre is keeping up with inflation ! just another rip off making companies less profitable costing jobs and taking money out of the economy | |||
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"It's only a rip off it's a necessity....the lottery is not a necessity. still think it's feeding off the desperation of many poor people and people trying to survive ! If you were trying to survive you would the money on a loaf of bread and a couple of tins of beans....not on the lottery. if you were about to get your house repposesed because you work in the construction idustry and your income has fallen back to what it was 25yrs ago you might give the loaf of bread a miss ! the fact is more people are doing the lottery again and suddenly it needs to go up !" If I was in that situation I would be sat at CAB trying to get it sorted (as I did when I WAS in that situation), not buying a Lotto ticket with odds against me winning the top prize of 14 million to one. The lottery jackpot may well clear all debts but you've got to win the thing first. If more people were realistic about their income vs their expenditure they might not be in the mess they got into. | |||
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"Like anything these days if people think there getting ripped off they simply won't buy it, The sales will go down and it will eventually stop ,like so many companies now shutting down, The retail industry in. This country is dead now :0( " I think you will find that many companies would argue that the retail industry IS NOT dead. Life is all about survival of the fittest, retail companies that are changing the way they trade in line with modern trends are surviving. | |||
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"It's only a rip off it's a necessity....the lottery is not a necessity. still think it's feeding off the desperation of many poor people and people trying to survive ! If you were trying to survive you would the money on a loaf of bread and a couple of tins of beans....not on the lottery. so you think that self employed people and shop owners should have somehow known that in 2012 their income would be less than it was in 1992whilst the running cost energy bill, fuel bills and business rates soar if you were about to get your house repposesed because you work in the construction idustry and your income has fallen back to what it was 25yrs ago you might give the loaf of bread a miss ! the fact is more people are doing the lottery again and suddenly it needs to go up ! If I was in that situation I would be sat at CAB trying to get it sorted (as I did when I WAS in that situation), not buying a Lotto ticket with odds against me winning the top prize of 14 million to one. The lottery jackpot may well clear all debts but you've got to win the thing first. If more people were realistic about their income vs their expenditure they might not be in the mess they got into." | |||
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"Like anything these days if people think there getting ripped off they simply won't buy it, The sales will go down and it will eventually stop ,like so many companies now shutting down, The retail industry in. This country is dead now :0( " No, it's far from dead. But it IS getting one hell of a wake up call and unsustainable business models are being exposed at an alarming rate, I'll grant you. But this happens cyclically every generation or so. Retail has changed in our lifetimes, just as it changed in our parents and Grandparents. It will continue to change long after we're gone. The thing you can say about Retail is that is the one sector of the economy which changes with public demand constantly.  | |||
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"Move to another country of you think this one is such a rip off, you might just see that the grass is not greener!" lots of people are ! Almost half of all Britons who emigrate each year are professionals and company managers, potentially threatening the country’s supply of highly skilled workers, research for the Home Office found. The attractions of a better lifestyle and climate, as well as career opportunities, meant a “large and increasing” number of executives, scientists, academics and doctors have chosen to leave Britain in the last 20 years, the report said . it's people with money leaving the country as you need money to get into many countries . you only need to look at classic cars for sale with many adverts stating must sell as emigrating . i love my country but it is now ruled by europe (just another money pit taking £53million of our taxes every day ) whilst telling us we can't send a mad cleric home and people in prison should have the right to vote !!!! | |||
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"Move to another country of you think this one is such a rip off, you might just see that the grass is not greener! lots of people are ! Almost half of all Britons who emigrate each year are professionals and company managers, potentially threatening the country’s supply of highly skilled workers, research for the Home Office found. The attractions of a better lifestyle and climate, as well as career opportunities, meant a “large and increasing” number of executives, scientists, academics and doctors have chosen to leave Britain in the last 20 years, the report said . it's people with money leaving the country as you need money to get into many countries . you only need to look at classic cars for sale with many adverts stating must sell as emigrating . i love my country but it is now ruled by europe (just another money pit taking £53million of our taxes every day ) whilst telling us we can't send a mad cleric home and people in prison should have the right to vote !!!!" So the price of a lottery ticket is connected to Abu Hamza in some way? | |||
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"It's only a rip off it's a necessity....the lottery is not a necessity. still think it's feeding off the desperation of many poor people and people trying to survive ! If you were trying to survive you would the money on a loaf of bread and a couple of tins of beans....not on the lottery. if you were about to get your house repposesed because you work in the construction idustry and your income has fallen back to what it was 25yrs ago you might give the loaf of bread a miss ! the fact is more people are doing the lottery again and suddenly it needs to go up ! If I was in that situation I would be sat at CAB trying to get it sorted (as I did when I WAS in that situation), not buying a Lotto ticket with odds against me winning the top prize of 14 million to one. The lottery jackpot may well clear all debts but you've got to win the thing first. If more people were realistic about their income vs their expenditure they might not be in the mess they got into." so you think that self employed people and shop owners should have somehow known that in 2012 their income would be less than it was in 1992whilst the running cost energy bill, fuel bills and business rates soar | |||
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"Move to another country of you think this one is such a rip off, you might just see that the grass is not greener! lots of people are ! Almost half of all Britons who emigrate each year are professionals and company managers, potentially threatening the country’s supply of highly skilled workers, research for the Home Office found. The attractions of a better lifestyle and climate, as well as career opportunities, meant a “large and increasing” number of executives, scientists, academics and doctors have chosen to leave Britain in the last 20 years, the report said . it's people with money leaving the country as you need money to get into many countries . you only need to look at classic cars for sale with many adverts stating must sell as emigrating . i love my country but it is now ruled by europe (just another money pit taking £53million of our taxes every day ) whilst telling us we can't send a mad cleric home and people in prison should have the right to vote !!!!" and many of them are returning to ood old blighty as soon as the economy in theor adopted country goes down the pan. I watched a programme the other week where brits were struggling abroad, one man in America was in thousands of dollars of debt, he was being chased by a health insurance company because he owed them $15,000 after his son had to have his appendix house. they were not entitled to any help as they were not americans and they were longing to go home. | |||
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"Starting and running your own business is a risk, there are no guarantees. If as a business owner you don't make provision for the lean times then you can't complain when it all goes tits up for you." wonders what colour the sky is in your world ! as the saying goes you need money to make money and many of those who have it choose to leave the country .as for making provision i did ! how foolish of me to have not realised that the country would end up on it's knees there would little or no work and my turnover would fall to a third of what it was 6 years ago ! | |||
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"Starting and running your own business is a risk, there are no guarantees. If as a business owner you don't make provision for the lean times then you can't complain when it all goes tits up for you. wonders what colour the sky is in your world ! as the saying goes you need money to make money and many of those who have it choose to leave the country .as for making provision i did ! how foolish of me to have not realised that the country would end up on it's knees there would little or no work and my turnover would fall to a third of what it was 6 years ago !" I run my own business, the second business I have built from scratch, I make provision for leaner times because I have seen so many people get carried away at making a few bob in their small business and living beyond their means. If the business/trade you are in is in the doldrums then move to something that is less likely to be effected by this recession. | |||
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"most of us know the petrol companies are ripping us off in lots of towns and cities as are the super makets that claim how much they are helping us all ! but the national lottery increase to £2 a 100% increase is surely just feeding off the desperation of the increased numbers doing the lottery !" Prices up wages static money is tight for most and staying that way.  | |||
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"Starting and running your own business is a risk, there are no guarantees. If as a business owner you don't make provision for the lean times then you can't complain when it all goes tits up for you. wonders what colour the sky is in your world ! as the saying goes you need money to make money and many of those who have it choose to leave the country .as for making provision i did ! how foolish of me to have not realised that the country would end up on it's knees there would little or no work and my turnover would fall to a third of what it was 6 years ago !" Rubbish you dont need a lot of money to make money. In 1995 I bought a garage from the council for £300 and rented it out for £10 pw under a six month lease paid up front, with this revenue I bought the garage next to it and in 8 months I had bought all 11! I then moved into property and now have a portfolio of over a hundred props and over 50 commercial units all of which I rent out! Most people who rent a house out get a return of 4% I get a return of 10 to 12 as a lot are modified to the disabled or have a learning disability, and rented to my local council under a ten yr guaranteed tenancy this is because councils do not have the housing stock to house these people. They are spending 10s of thousands housing these people in nursing homes and its cheaper to rent an adapted property. Money can easy be made if you are capable of spotting a opportunity and have a little luck. | |||
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"Starting and running your own business is a risk, there are no guarantees. If as a business owner you don't make provision for the lean times then you can't complain when it all goes tits up for you. wonders what colour the sky is in your world ! as the saying goes you need money to make money and many of those who have it choose to leave the country .as for making provision i did ! how foolish of me to have not realised that the country would end up on it's knees there would little or no work and my turnover would fall to a third of what it was 6 years ago ! I run my own business, the second business I have built from scratch, I make provision for leaner times because I have seen so many people get carried away at making a few bob in their small business and living beyond their means. If the business/trade you are in is in the doldrums then move to something that is less likely to be effected by this recession. " never been carried away . have seen many do that to ! my business is 32 yrs old and survived 2 previous recessions and a divorce where i got my pants taken down due to the system in this country throwing legal aid at people who don't deserve it putting people above that bracket in a no win situation . i have worked hard all my life and at the moment travel into london every day costing £150 a week in diesel for shit money out of the house at 6.00am grafting all day and back home after 6.00pm the main contractors continue to get good prices but rip off sub contractors and get them into price wars .wonders what job to easily find with better pay after 34 years of doing the one i love . the dole perhaps like so many others ! | |||
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"It's only a rip off it's a necessity....the lottery is not a necessity. still think it's feeding off the desperation of many poor people and people trying to survive ! If you were trying to survive you would the money on a loaf of bread and a couple of tins of beans....not on the lottery. if you were about to get your house repposesed because you work in the construction idustry and your income has fallen back to what it was 25yrs ago you might give the loaf of bread a miss ! the fact is more people are doing the lottery again and suddenly it needs to go up ! If I was in that situation I would be sat at CAB trying to get it sorted (as I did when I WAS in that situation), not buying a Lotto ticket with odds against me winning the top prize of 14 million to one. The lottery jackpot may well clear all debts but you've got to win the thing first. If more people were realistic about their income vs their expenditure they might not be in the mess they got into. so you think that self employed people and shop owners should have somehow known that in 2012 their income would be less than it was in 1992whilst the running cost energy bill, fuel bills and business rates soar " Well seeing as the UK was in a deep recession in 92, yes. Any business case has to take into account inflation, NMW rises, NI rises, tax rises etc. It is shit at the mo, much worse than it was in the 90s, but we lived through that one and we'll live through this one. But thinking that relying on winning the lottery is a sound fiscal policy is avoiding the issue completely. | |||
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"It's only a rip off it's a necessity....the lottery is not a necessity. still think it's feeding off the desperation of many poor people and people trying to survive ! If you were trying to survive you would the money on a loaf of bread and a couple of tins of beans....not on the lottery. if you were about to get your house repposesed because you work in the construction idustry and your income has fallen back to what it was 25yrs ago you might give the loaf of bread a miss ! the fact is more people are doing the lottery again and suddenly it needs to go up ! If I was in that situation I would be sat at CAB trying to get it sorted (as I did when I WAS in that situation), not buying a Lotto ticket with odds against me winning the top prize of 14 million to one. The lottery jackpot may well clear all debts but you've got to win the thing first. If more people were realistic about their income vs their expenditure they might not be in the mess they got into. so you think that self employed people and shop owners should have somehow known that in 2012 their income would be less than it was in 1992whilst the running cost energy bill, fuel bills and business rates soar Well seeing as the UK was in a deep recession in 92, yes. Any business case has to take into account inflation, NMW rises, NI rises, tax rises etc. It is shit at the mo, much worse than it was in the 90s, but we lived through that one and we'll live through this one. But thinking that relying on winning the lottery is a sound fiscal policy is avoiding the issue completely." the thread started as a comment that i think raising it to £2 is a rip off and feeding off of desperate people . my odds are crap really ! i worked with a guy who got the 1 million raffle another one £65,000 and my second cousin £25,000.mates son got £5,000 on a scratch card and i live in the town where the £148,000000 was one !! still can just about find a quid though as even a thousand would be handy right now . | |||
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"Starting and running your own business is a risk, there are no guarantees. If as a business owner you don't make provision for the lean times then you can't complain when it all goes tits up for you. wonders what colour the sky is in your world ! as the saying goes you need money to make money and many of those who have it choose to leave the country .as for making provision i did ! how foolish of me to have not realised that the country would end up on it's knees there would little or no work and my turnover would fall to a third of what it was 6 years ago ! Rubbish you dont need a lot of money to make money. In 1995 I bought a garage from the council for £300 and rented it out for £10 pw under a six month lease paid up front, with this revenue I bought the garage next to it and in 8 months I had bought all 11! I then moved into property and now have a portfolio of over a hundred props and over 50 commercial units all of which I rent out! Most people who rent a house out get a return of 4% I get a return of 10 to 12 as a lot are modified to the disabled or have a learning disability, and rented to my local council under a ten yr guaranteed tenancy this is because councils do not have the housing stock to house these people. They are spending 10s of thousands housing these people in nursing homes and its cheaper to rent an adapted property. Money can easy be made if you are capable of spotting a opportunity and have a little luck. " Similarly, many years ago I bought a shed in the Jan sales for half price, did it up a bit, new felt, lick of paint, knocked it out for twice the full value. Did the same thing again and again until I'd made enough for a nice comfortable life, new house, nice car, holidays abroad. Then I won the lottery and thought, "Fuck the sheds."  | |||
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"the thread started as a comment that i think raising it to £2 is a rip off and feeding off of desperate people . my odds are crap really ! i worked with a guy who got the 1 million raffle another one £65,000 and my second cousin £25,000.mates son got £5,000 on a scratch card and i live in the town where the £148,000000 was one !! still can just about find a quid though as even a thousand would be handy right now ." Bascially, you're a dreamer and not a do-er. My advice would be to stop playing the lotto and in 12 months time you'll have £104 to spend (assuming you play once per week). You'll also find you'll have a clear sense of where you want to be and how to get there as your head won't be continually full of ideas of how you'll spend your lotto millions. | |||
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"Starting and running your own business is a risk, there are no guarantees. If as a business owner you don't make provision for the lean times then you can't complain when it all goes tits up for you. wonders what colour the sky is in your world ! as the saying goes you need money to make money and many of those who have it choose to leave the country .as for making provision i did ! how foolish of me to have not realised that the country would end up on it's knees there would little or no work and my turnover would fall to a third of what it was 6 years ago ! Rubbish you dont need a lot of money to make money. In 1995 I bought a garage from the council for £300 and rented it out for £10 pw under a six month lease paid up front, with this revenue I bought the garage next to it and in 8 months I had bought all 11! I then moved into property and now have a portfolio of over a hundred props and over 50 commercial units all of which I rent out! Most people who rent a house out get a return of 4% I get a return of 10 to 12 as a lot are modified to the disabled or have a learning disability, and rented to my local council under a ten yr guaranteed tenancy this is because councils do not have the housing stock to house these people. They are spending 10s of thousands housing these people in nursing homes and its cheaper to rent an adapted property. Money can easy be made if you are capable of spotting a opportunity and have a little luck. Similarly, many years ago I bought a shed in the Jan sales for half price, did it up a bit, new felt, lick of paint, knocked it out for twice the full value. Did the same thing again and again until I'd made enough for a nice comfortable life, new house, nice car, holidays abroad. Then I won the lottery and thought, "Fuck the sheds." "rolf at last a sensible reply | |||
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