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"There are quite a lot of very deep posts today. I've read so many beautiful thoughts and responses. Some have made me smile and some have made me think In this world of fleeting or moments, for however long they last, if you do get giddy with excitement and allow yourself to feel the gorgeous butterflies etc. How do you protect yourself from getting hurt? Virginia Johnson said "Sex: enjoy it when you can but keep your heart out." So how do you do that? Can you do that? Do you have a particular ritual to do that? Do you need a condom for your heart? Or your over thinking brain? " I don’t think I can keep my heart totally out to be honest. I always get some kind of feelings for those I meet. I don’t think I could carry on meeting them otherwise. It’s just the way I’m made I think. I dont really protect myself, I’ve probably got a few more barriers then I did though. I seem to be able to get over it though and walk away easily if it’s not working. Maybe it’s because I’ve never really had my heart broken badly. I don’t know. But then again I know what I want and I know it’s not a proper relationship and never will be so maybe that helps. Who knows! | |||
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"There are quite a lot of very deep posts today. I've read so many beautiful thoughts and responses. Some have made me smile and some have made me think In this world of fleeting or moments, for however long they last, if you do get giddy with excitement and allow yourself to feel the gorgeous butterflies etc. How do you protect yourself from getting hurt? Virginia Johnson said "Sex: enjoy it when you can but keep your heart out." So how do you do that? Can you do that? Do you have a particular ritual to do that? Do you need a condom for your heart? Or your over thinking brain? " I think in the past I've been careless with my emotions, got carried away. These days I'm lot more guarded. There have been a few guys I've thought to myself that I could really like, so I deliberately distance myself from them. I'll still talk to them and stuff but I'll make an extra effort to talk to others aswell..I won't message them as much, I don't let on how I feel.. Some may say I'm missimg out on something, I don't see it that way. Things always end, this way when they do it doesn't hurt as much. | |||
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" Some may say I'm missimg out on something, I don't see it that way. Things always end, this way when they do it doesn't hurt as much. " Guarded. Self-preservation. Look after yourself (cos you're alright in my book and I like seeing your comments on here). | |||
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" When I feel those words I won't say because of everything they're tied to and the expectations they bring. When someone is everything in that moment. I can embrace it. I can enjoy it. I can let those emotions and sensations overwhelm the overthinking for as long as that lasts. And it's beautiful. I can accept that joy and that experience without any expectation of it being more than that single moment." Oh Prey. There *is* something to be said for living in the moment and embracing it for what it is isn't there? In the moment I'm quite good. It's after when the doubts can creep in. I hope I'm able to be more like you, in regards to this, more often. It's a lovely simple way of enjoying things. Uncomplicated and natural. | |||
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"Oh Prey. There *is* something to be said for living in the moment and embracing it for what it is isn't there? In the moment I'm quite good. It's after when the doubts can creep in. I hope I'm able to be more like you, in regards to this, more often. It's a lovely simple way of enjoying things. Uncomplicated and natural." Processing the after can be complicated. I'm usually very solid on where I believe I stand. If someone is just sex and fun that's fine. But when it's the people that mean something more to me I can stumble. I keep that front up almost always, but sometimes it doesn't matter how much I absolutely know that I mean to that person as much as they mean to me, sometimes all those old feelings of inadequacy and what if I'm being lied to creep in. After a lot of work I can rationalise away those stupid doubts pretty quickly. But they hit fucking hard for the moment they peek through. | |||
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"It's just sex a very enjoyable activity, nothing more. If you heart is getting in involved then your on the wrong site. " That’s not true. I know lots of couples who have met on here and some have got married. That may be your view but it’s not everyone’s. They’re not on the wrong site at all. | |||
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"My emotions are too guarded for this and I can seperate sex and emotion very easily. I simply wouldn't alow someone to get too close to me emotionaly as I have been too damaged from my past." How someone else feels about you isn't within your control | |||
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"My emotions are too guarded for this and I can seperate sex and emotion very easily. I simply wouldn't alow someone to get too close to me emotionaly as I have been too damaged from my past. How someone else feels about you isn't within your control " I wouldn't let them get close enough and the smallest hint they were getting any emotional attatchment to me I would walk away and as shitty as that sounds, I state this from the begining. I would never leave myself open to someone romatically again. Believe it or not, I was once very romatic and wore my heart on my sleeve, the only person who has my heart is my child. | |||
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"It's just sex a very enjoyable activity, nothing more. If you heart is getting in involved then your on the wrong site. " I didn't think the post was just talking about Fab. Even so I'm not doing the do with someone I don't like which means for me emotions are already involved at least a little. J | |||
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"I definitely need a condom for my overthinking brain. I do let myself get excited but rarely, I try not too that way there's less disappointment but there's some things you just can't not, our wedding for example I'm very excited it's just us two and I wouldn't have it any other way. Then the little things that just make life nice, random smiles from strangers on a bad day, kitchen dancing with the Mr, the kids cuddling up, the Mr being a prick just to make me laugh, just those little things give me a glow and make the days good. Mrs " Your wedding sounds lovely, no wonder you're excited. I think that disappointment feeling is often inevitable but maybe it gets easier to deal with every time you experience it? Like you I used to sometimes feel that if I curb my enthusiasm about somethings I'll feel less sad if they don't go to plan but it rarely worked out that way! And yay for kitchen dancing.. That's couple goals right there! | |||
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"There are quite a lot of very deep posts today. I've read so many beautiful thoughts and responses. Some have made me smile and some have made me think In this world of fleeting or moments, for however long they last, if you do get giddy with excitement and allow yourself to feel the gorgeous butterflies etc. How do you protect yourself from getting hurt? Virginia Johnson said "Sex: enjoy it when you can but keep your heart out." So how do you do that? Can you do that? Do you have a particular ritual to do that? Do you need a condom for your heart? Or your over thinking brain? I don’t think I can keep my heart totally out to be honest. I always get some kind of feelings for those I meet. I don’t think I could carry on meeting them otherwise. It’s just the way I’m made I think. I dont really protect myself, I’ve probably got a few more barriers then I did though. I seem to be able to get over it though and walk away easily if it’s not working. Maybe it’s because I’ve never really had my heart broken badly. I don’t know. But then again I know what I want and I know it’s not a proper relationship and never will be so maybe that helps. Who knows!" I think knowing what you want or don't want certainly helps. In the last year I've completely changed what I want and I don't think anyone was more surprised than me! | |||
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"There are quite a lot of very deep posts today. I've read so many beautiful thoughts and responses. Some have made me smile and some have made me think In this world of fleeting or moments, for however long they last, if you do get giddy with excitement and allow yourself to feel the gorgeous butterflies etc. How do you protect yourself from getting hurt? Virginia Johnson said "Sex: enjoy it when you can but keep your heart out." So how do you do that? Can you do that? Do you have a particular ritual to do that? Do you need a condom for your heart? Or your over thinking brain? I think in the past I've been careless with my emotions, got carried away. These days I'm lot more guarded. There have been a few guys I've thought to myself that I could really like, so I deliberately distance myself from them. I'll still talk to them and stuff but I'll make an extra effort to talk to others aswell..I won't message them as much, I don't let on how I feel.. Some may say I'm missimg out on something, I don't see it that way. Things always end, this way when they do it doesn't hurt as much. " I think being careless with emotions is probably something you can't really control. Our emotions and feelings are responses, while we can control who we share those with I'm not sure you can ever really control how you actually feel. I do get it though and I see a lot of my own strategies in what you say. | |||
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"I can't. I might pretend my heart and feelings aren't involved in friendships, relationships, pretty much anything...but they always are. I don't think I'd change that though. J" Me too! It is just who I am regardless of the situation, even at work, I make decisions with my heart | |||
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"Found myself getting into Tantric love which is about intimacy, mindfulness, and a celebration of the sensuality of the human body. When sexual acts are involved, they're used as a medium rather than an end goal. It’s all about being able to let go even when you don’t want to. " Tantra is the relasionship with yourseld and the source, a path to kundalini. It actualy has nothing to do with sex and the sex part is using the sacral chakra to develop the kundalini energy. Its not about letting go and more about becoming one. | |||
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"Oh Prey. There *is* something to be said for living in the moment and embracing it for what it is isn't there? In the moment I'm quite good. It's after when the doubts can creep in. I hope I'm able to be more like you, in regards to this, more often. It's a lovely simple way of enjoying things. Uncomplicated and natural. Processing the after can be complicated. I'm usually very solid on where I believe I stand. If someone is just sex and fun that's fine. But when it's the people that mean something more to me I can stumble. I keep that front up almost always, but sometimes it doesn't matter how much I absolutely know that I mean to that person as much as they mean to me, sometimes all those old feelings of inadequacy and what if I'm being lied to creep in. After a lot of work I can rationalise away those stupid doubts pretty quickly. But they hit fucking hard for the moment they peek through." I could have probably written some of this. The self doubt is hard, especially somewhere like this where you know you are never the only person, even when they aren't either and when you can perfectly rationalise and be in the moment, there's always those times when you compare or your brain over thinks. It definitely takes work and practice to get past those thoughts. | |||
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"It's just sex a very enjoyable activity, nothing more. If you heart is getting in involved then your on the wrong site. " I disagree with this in part. Yes, sex can be enjoyable on its own in isolation. Sex purely to just cum is fine. And as exciting as the whole random hot encounter can be, it's a bit empty after a while for me. However, it can be bloody epic if you allow yourself to get lost in the moment and feel. That doesn't mean you're about to get your heart broken or you're falling in love with the person. It means that you give yourself the permission to go all in if it feels right. It's part of the thrill. I'm well aware of the nature of the site and I can manage my expectations accordingly which means I can be realistic enough to know when I'm getting too carried away. | |||
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"If I like someone, I like them. I think I’m pretty heart-on-sleeve about it. I don’t tend to hold back. It’s not that I’m careless with my heart. It’s more that for me the risk is worth the reward. I’m not saying that I fall in love with every person I fuck. Far from it. That would be crazy behaviour. But when the stars align, when it’s damn near *perfect* … I’m going to lean into that, not back away. And I’m beyond lucky to be feeling that right now. Which makes threads like this so easy and yet also so hard to reply to. Because sometimes those deeply felt connections can be fragile, especially in the early stages. But like I said already - for me the risk is worth the reward. I’ll jump right in. Head first." Risk and reward.. Yes that's it in a nutshell. | |||
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" I recently met someone that gave me butterflies. He said all the right things, he knew exactly what to say. I let my guard down. We had amazing mind blowing sex. The next day all the right words again. Then poof, tumbles, gone. 2 weeks later I get the standard How you doing message. I’ve definitely got my walls back up. I tripped up with him, I won’t do it again. I like the condom for the heart, it’s better than the dungeon I’m currently sealing it into. " I can understand that, the hurt is real and it can leave us feeling really wounded. Did you trip up though or did you just go with what felt right at the time? If I manage to create one I'll let you know | |||
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"Unfortunately I don't protect myself at all and I don't think I'll ever change. In fact I've accepted the proverbial drúg that represents the excitement, euphoria, attachment and the emotions. It's a hard habit to break. So, like a sacrificial lamb to the altar of emotional attachment, I submit. It's not about romance or a relationship; it's about 'feelings' with substance, something meaningful with synergy." Synergy. Yeah that is worth the risk. Sometimes the risk is necessary. | |||
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"Unfortunately I don't protect myself at all and I don't think I'll ever change. In fact I've accepted the proverbial drúg that represents the excitement, euphoria, attachment and the emotions. It's a hard habit to break. So, like a sacrificial lamb to the altar of emotional attachment, I submit. It's not about romance or a relationship; it's about 'feelings' with substance, something meaningful with synergy." All of this | |||
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"There are quite a lot of very deep posts today. I've read so many beautiful thoughts and responses. Some have made me smile and some have made me think In this world of fleeting or moments, for however long they last, if you do get giddy with excitement and allow yourself to feel the gorgeous butterflies etc. How do you protect yourself from getting hurt? Virginia Johnson said "Sex: enjoy it when you can but keep your heart out." So how do you do that? Can you do that? Do you have a particular ritual to do that? Do you need a condom for your heart? Or your over thinking brain? " For me i find it can be difficult as i do develop some sort of connection with the person rather than just sex. It can be difficult. For me it why I prefer a regular meet with people than a ONS. | |||
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"Genuinely I just don't really believe that people will want to meet me or get to know the 'real me' so I suppose that is my protective factor. I just assume that most people are talking to me out of boredom etc and will soon tire and inevitably move on. Sheesh this is deep for a Sunday evening " This makes me so sad You're not only beautiful but clearly also intelligent, fun and interesting. Why wouldn't they want to? | |||
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"I just want to say with all the guys I've met I've made them feel really special. But once they leave my house that's it until the next time. We both go about our lives" I get this, I possibly try too hard not to infringe on their lives sometimes. | |||
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"Beautifully put, Nero. I’ll drink to that." • | |||
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"Beautifully put, Nero. I’ll drink to that. • " Can I join the drink to Nerö huddle? | |||
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"I just want to say with all the guys I've met I've made them feel really special. But once they leave my house that's it until the next time. We both go about our lives I get this, I possibly try too hard not to infringe on their lives sometimes. " we would chat between meets and where quite close in a way. I'm not cold hearted as I sometimes come across but we always knew a boundary. Most times it wasn't spoke about we just knew | |||
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"Genuinely I just don't really believe that people will want to meet me or get to know the 'real me' so I suppose that is my protective factor. I just assume that most people are talking to me out of boredom etc and will soon tire and inevitably move on. Sheesh this is deep for a Sunday evening This makes me so sad You're not only beautiful but clearly also intelligent, fun and interesting. Why wouldn't they want to? " Don't be sad - it'll make me sad!! You are such a lovely human | |||
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"I get attached to people I meet, and I’ve had my heart battered so many times. I can’t seem to change that though, and I’m not sure I want to. " I can understand that. Sometimes the heart battering is worth it. | |||
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"I don't say it but I'm genuinely astonished if anyone has any interest in me " • You're an all-round good citizen and good egg! | |||
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"There are quite a lot of very deep posts today. I've read so many beautiful thoughts and responses. Some have made me smile and some have made me think In this world of fleeting or moments, for however long they last, if you do get giddy with excitement and allow yourself to feel the gorgeous butterflies etc. How do you protect yourself from getting hurt? Virginia Johnson said "Sex: enjoy it when you can but keep your heart out." So how do you do that? Can you do that? Do you have a particular ritual to do that? Do you need a condom for your heart? Or your over thinking brain? " I think she missed spelled “ heart “ instead of hard She ment keep your Hard out . As hint for men “ please don’t stop . Joking : that’s what I call “ cold sex “ done it , boring . Masturbate the penis in the vagina doesn’t do much to me . My biggest turn on is sweetness , So I need connection Chemistry So yes , a NSA is treated with love and respect as would a FWB or a girlfriend . I give more love n more respect to a stranger then many men give to their own wife . Leave your heart out - 100% disagree | |||
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"There are quite a lot of very deep posts today. I've read so many beautiful thoughts and responses. Some have made me smile and some have made me think In this world of fleeting or moments, for however long they last, if you do get giddy with excitement and allow yourself to feel the gorgeous butterflies etc. How do you protect yourself from getting hurt? Virginia Johnson said "Sex: enjoy it when you can but keep your heart out." So how do you do that? Can you do that? Do you have a particular ritual to do that? Do you need a condom for your heart? Or your over thinking brain? " I don't attach to people very easily...that's the autistic traits/sensory disorder traits side of me. I've got a disorganized insecure attachment style. When I do attach, it's very very intense. Sometimes too much for me and sometimes too much for the other person. If someone hurts, neglects or abandons me, the pain is so crushing that I shut down to protect myself. Shutdown, isolated, go no contact. Delete block. hide. See my hidden profile. For now, I'm a very tough nut to crack but I've been through too much to really let anyone play with my feelings anymore. I'm hypervigilant and may appear aloof in person. I also wear the autistic mask alot. One practical way is that I know that the love hormones activate the more time you spend with someone so I don't spend a lot of time with just one person. My last regular lover I saw once a week or so for 5 years and we still did not bond emotionally. Eventually, the pandemic and some other stresses put an end to that interaction. Most people want the intimacy in the form of sexual interaction but they don't want the companionship and they don't want the commitment and responsibility. I define my interactions with people and strictly stick to those boundaries unless there is a need to re-evaluate the interaction as something more or less. | |||
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"…… Do you need a condom for your heart? Or your over thinking brain? " I’d like regular, and ribbed for her pleasure. | |||
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"Unfortunately I don't protect myself at all and I don't think I'll ever change. In fact I've accepted the proverbial drúg that represents the excitement, euphoria, attachment and the emotions. It's a hard habit to break. So, like a sacrificial lamb to the altar of emotional attachment, I submit. It's not about romance or a relationship; it's about 'feelings' with substance, something meaningful with synergy." Oh Nero. This is exactly me. Sadly. | |||
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"Unfortunately I don't protect myself at all and I don't think I'll ever change. In fact I've accepted the proverbial drúg that represents the excitement, euphoria, attachment and the emotions. It's a hard habit to break. So, like a sacrificial lamb to the altar of emotional attachment, I submit. It's not about romance or a relationship; it's about 'feelings' with substance, something meaningful with synergy. · Oh Nero. This is exactly me. Sadly. " • But is it "Sadly"? Perhaps we should embrace how we are wired up in our amorously arrhythmic hearts and how we are programmed in our pining minds? I don't wish to be any other way. I quite like that intense feeling, despite living in a fool's paradise! | |||
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"Unfortunately I don't protect myself at all and I don't think I'll ever change. In fact I've accepted the proverbial drúg that represents the excitement, euphoria, attachment and the emotions. It's a hard habit to break. So, like a sacrificial lamb to the altar of emotional attachment, I submit. It's not about romance or a relationship; it's about 'feelings' with substance, something meaningful with synergy. · Oh Nero. This is exactly me. Sadly. • But is it "Sadly"? Perhaps we should embrace how we are wired up in our amorously arrhythmic hearts and how we are programmed in our pining minds? I don't wish to be any other way. I quite like that intense feeling, despite living in a fool's paradise!" Pining. Fuck I hope I don't pine, what a depressing mental image! Oh I don't know. The majority of the time I love it. That intensity, the way I light up. The excitement I feel with every interaction. But sometimes I wish I wasn't quite so... passionate. It can lead to hurt. Once my walls are down, I'm very soft. The highs are worth the lows though. Very much so. | |||
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"I find it very easy to compartmentalise. I'm happy to share feelings in the moment but am very easy at leaving them ther. " Good lord who typed that!? 'but very good at leaving them there ' Good effort, lacks attention to detail. See me | |||
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"I think I go against the grain here a little swinging wise I tend not to become sexual with those I meet socially Recreational sex for me is very transactional Becoming friends with people socially, much less so - if you have a piece of me friendship wise, it will stay there, regardless of how much (or how little) we interact I don't want that emotional bond that so many desire in sex I have those away from the site and they are very special" I completely understand that. | |||
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"I find it very easy to compartmentalise. I'm happy to share feelings in the moment but am very easy at leaving them ther. Good lord who typed that!? 'but very good at leaving them there ' Good effort, lacks attention to detail. See me " I knew exactly what you meant I actually get this, despite my heart being a somewhat beautiful liability most of the time, there are other times when I can compartmentalise things. I have a whole kalax unit of boxes of stuff in my mind and I can put something in there and not really revisit it again. It's rare that I really want to but there have been times I've known I've needed to. | |||
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"I find it very easy to compartmentalise. I'm happy to share feelings in the moment but am very easy at leaving them ther. Good lord who typed that!? 'but very good at leaving them there ' Good effort, lacks attention to detail. See me " Hire me for your role. I am maticulous and has keen atetention to detail? (Joke, joke ) | |||
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"I find it very easy to compartmentalise. I'm happy to share feelings in the moment but am very easy at leaving them ther. Good lord who typed that!? 'but very good at leaving them there ' Good effort, lacks attention to detail. See me I knew exactly what you meant I actually get this, despite my heart being a somewhat beautiful liability most of the time, there are other times when I can compartmentalise things. I have a whole kalax unit of boxes of stuff in my mind and I can put something in there and not really revisit it again. It's rare that I really want to but there have been times I've known I've needed to. " It's just the way I'm wired, whether it's innate or learned I have no idea but I accept it | |||
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"I find it very easy to compartmentalise. I'm happy to share feelings in the moment but am very easy at leaving them ther. Good lord who typed that!? 'but very good at leaving them there ' Good effort, lacks attention to detail. See me Hire me for your role. I am maticulous and has keen atetention to detail? (Joke, joke )" You'll be telling me you're discrete next | |||
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"I find it very easy to compartmentalise. I'm happy to share feelings in the moment but am very easy at leaving them ther. Good lord who typed that!? 'but very good at leaving them there ' Good effort, lacks attention to detail. See me Hire me for your role. I am maticulous and has keen atetention to detail? (Joke, joke ) You'll be telling me you're discrete next " I am discrete, the umbilical cord was cut in the 80s | |||
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"I find it very easy to compartmentalise. I'm happy to share feelings in the moment but am very easy at leaving them ther. Good lord who typed that!? 'but very good at leaving them there ' Good effort, lacks attention to detail. See me Hire me for your role. I am maticulous and has keen atetention to detail? (Joke, joke ) You'll be telling me you're discrete next I am discrete, the umbilical cord was cut in the 80s " | |||
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"I think I just accept nothing lasts forever , enjoy the now, don’t let past disappointment define the future etc. I think if you put up defences it’s a self fulfilling prophecy , you only attract the types likely to hurt you again " Do you find people assume you're cold hearted or don't feel as deeply as others? I have had that experience | |||
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"I think I just accept nothing lasts forever , enjoy the now, don’t let past disappointment define the future etc. I think if you put up defences it’s a self fulfilling prophecy , you only attract the types likely to hurt you again " When my defences were down, I got hurt very badly. Now my defences are up, the pain last considerably shorter and my life is more peaceful. I've resolved that I can't control other people but only what I allow them to do to me and my reaction to their behaviour. There are always bad/harmful/bleach people....that's the reality. I'm all for protection instead of cure and healing. | |||
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"I think I just accept nothing lasts forever , enjoy the now, don’t let past disappointment define the future etc. I think if you put up defences it’s a self fulfilling prophecy , you only attract the types likely to hurt you again Do you find people assume you're cold hearted or don't feel as deeply as others? I have had that experience " People who don’t know me yes, or people who want more emotionally than I want to give. But people who know me well often say the opposite ! | |||
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" There are always bad/harmful/bleach people....that's the reality. I'm all for protection instead of cure and healing." I think I disagree a bit on that having met a lot of people off here , I can’t think of a single harmful / bad one. It’s like that person everyone says avoid , she’s trouble they are XYZ, that’s their experience, because they are harmful and disloyal themselves…..but if you go with an open heart you find a completely different person. | |||
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"There are quite a lot of very deep posts today. I've read so many beautiful thoughts and responses. Some have made me smile and some have made me think In this world of fleeting or moments, for however long they last, if you do get giddy with excitement and allow yourself to feel the gorgeous butterflies etc. How do you protect yourself from getting hurt? Virginia Johnson said "Sex: enjoy it when you can but keep your heart out." So how do you do that? Can you do that? Do you have a particular ritual to do that? Do you need a condom for your heart? Or your over thinking brain? " Oh my god my heart is in everything I do. Do I get hurt? Hmmm not for long. Do I get disappointed? Often. I have got much better at being clear about my emotions. Hurt is too vague for me now. Anger, disappointment, humiliation embarrassment tend to make up my hurt and understanding them and looking at the emotions makes me feel better about them. I definitely still struggle with disappointment at people being unable or unwilling to be upfront and clear but I am less often 'hurt' by others. Well unless being spanked but that is a different type of hurt. | |||
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" Times a healer. As is therapy. Everyone go to therapy hahaha." This. What _essicagrace said for sure! | |||
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