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"Ffs this almost made me cry into my cuppa!" Yes, I want the scathing, sarcastic feisty Raven back. None of this introspection! Call the exorcist. | |||
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"This is very close to my heart. The last time I saw my late beloved I didn't know it was going to be the last time. We had a perfect day and I wouldn't have changed anything. It's a memory I hold dear. The very last time I spoke to him on the phone was just a quick call to tell me something. I wish the call had been longer. We always ended our calls with I love you so that is the very last words we said to each other." Ouch. But beautiful. | |||
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"Would it have made a difference knowing that it was the last time? Last time you saw that someone. Last time you held their hand. Last time you spoke to them. The last message you sent. The last time you felt their lips on yours. There's a lot of things we do and we don't realise at the time that that's the last time we'll ever do that. Would you of changed things if you'd known? Spent a little longer writing that message knowing they'd never read another. When you kissed them goodbye, if you knew it was the last time would you have a kissed them a little longer. Not knowing it's the last time, a blessing or a curse? " We are none of us here forever we have memories i guess that will have to do | |||
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"I didn't read it as being the last time before someone died " Me neither. I wouldn’t have been so flippant. I’m so sorry for my comment if it was. I’d never have done that x | |||
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"I didn't read it as being the last time before someone died " It wasn't meant that way, well not completely. My references were in relation to people that did die but also ones I've just lost touch with. It could relate to a number of situations really. | |||
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"I didn't read it as being the last time before someone died Me neither. I wouldn’t have been so flippant. I’m so sorry for my comment if it was. I’d never have done that x" I'm not easily offended! | |||
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"I didn't read it as being the last time before someone died Me neither. I wouldn’t have been so flippant. I’m so sorry for my comment if it was. I’d never have done that x I'm not easily offended! " I know. But even so….. xx | |||
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"I didn't read it as being the last time before someone died Me neither. I wouldn’t have been so flippant. I’m so sorry for my comment if it was. I’d never have done that x" I am not sure it was meant in that way, but only Raven can answer (and it's probably "read it how you like"). For me there are certain people that I am glad my last conversation was aggressive (certain politicians and clients), but for someone close like my daughter, I have no idea why my last conversation was the last one (it was "goodbye, love you") and why there has been no other since. | |||
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"Would it have made a difference knowing that it was the last time? Last time you saw that someone. Last time you held their hand. Last time you spoke to them. The last message you sent. The last time you felt their lips on yours. There's a lot of things we do and we don't realise at the time that that's the last time we'll ever do that. Would you of changed things if you'd known? Spent a little longer writing that message knowing they'd never read another. When you kissed them goodbye, if you knew it was the last time would you have a kissed them a little longer. Not knowing it's the last time, a blessing or a curse? " Its both, depending on your perspective. And who its the last time with and why. But those feelings are what you put on yourself and can change over time, so maybe live with them for a while, and be kind to yourself. | |||
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"I think sometimes ignorance is bliss. I knew the last time I saw my mum, I didn't know the last time I saw my dad. I know which feeling I preferred. With relationships its difficult. I think looking back at some, I wish I'd got another chance to say goodbye to them properly before it was over. Others not really so much. I do make a point of telling people how I feel and I try really hard never to go to sleep on an argument because that's important. " You always think there's gonna be another time, another day to say what you want. Sometimes, for different reasons, that day never comes. But yeah looking back I think I'd rather not know, even though you're left with things you wish you'd said/done. | |||
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"I didn't read it as being the last time before someone died Me neither. I wouldn’t have been so flippant. I’m so sorry for my comment if it was. I’d never have done that x I am not sure it was meant in that way, but only Raven can answer (and it's probably "read it how you like"). For me there are certain people that I am glad my last conversation was aggressive (certain politicians and clients), but for someone close like my daughter, I have no idea why my last conversation was the last one (it was "goodbye, love you") and why there has been no other since." Yeah, it relates to different situations. That made me | |||
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"Would it have made a difference knowing that it was the last time? Last time you saw that someone. Last time you held their hand. Last time you spoke to them. The last message you sent. The last time you felt their lips on yours. There's a lot of things we do and we don't realise at the time that that's the last time we'll ever do that. Would you of changed things if you'd known? Spent a little longer writing that message knowing they'd never read another. When you kissed them goodbye, if you knew it was the last time would you have a kissed them a little longer. Not knowing it's the last time, a blessing or a curse? " Been quite fortunate or unfortunate in respect of most of above my mother when she passed away with cancer she knew she was dying held her hand kissed her goodbye and my wife when she passed away with cancer nursed her at home when she passed held her all night till she passed away in the morning my mum and my wife I miss terribly Life is fleeting enjoy life when you can all you can | |||
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"I worry that if something happened long term partner I wouldn't know. He'd just be gone, with no explanation. " This is the worst. The no explanation part. There's someone I was once really close to, and now, I don't even know if they're alive or dead. Sounds dramatic but it's a reality. | |||
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"… Not knowing it's the last time, a blessing or a curse? " A blessing, because I’d probably not do it. if I knew, I’d be a coward and turn from it. I don’t like things ending that are wonderful and something or someone that brings me joy. I couldn’t bear being in the moment I know would be my last. I’d rather not do it than go through that pain. And I’d miss out on that one more time I always wanted. I would miss out on that, one more time with them. I’d rather not know, it was it was, and there’s nothing I can do about it other than remember the best moments I’d had that way. I hope that makes sense. *im going to have a double run now. | |||
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"… Not knowing it's the last time, a blessing or a curse? A blessing, because I’d probably not do it. if I knew, I’d be a coward and turn from it. I don’t like things ending that are wonderful and something or someone that brings me joy. I couldn’t bear being in the moment I know would be my last. I’d rather not do it than go through that pain. And I’d miss out on that one more time I always wanted. I would miss out on that, one more time with them. I’d rather not know, it was it was, and there’s nothing I can do about it other than remember the best moments I’d had that way. I hope that makes sense. *im going to have a double run now. " It does Though personally I'd have a double rum not run. | |||
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"I worry that if something happened long term partner I wouldn't know. He'd just be gone, with no explanation. This is the worst. The no explanation part. There's someone I was once really close to, and now, I don't even know if they're alive or dead. Sounds dramatic but it's a reality. " It's not dramatic. If they aren't on any of your Social Media networks and their family and friends don't know to tell you anything you won't know what's happened. I started thinking about it when he came to see me after taking a corner too fast on his motorbike and being slammed into a hedge. It dawned on me that if he'd have died no one would know to tell me, unless they got access to his phone and he kept our messages. Even then I don't know if they would bother. | |||
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"It's an interesting topic, I'm torn between having foresight or living in ignorance, Raven. How do I even begin to answer this?... I would feel that the "not knowing" would be a blessing because we live each day with the appreciation and knowledge that it's not our last day with someone or something, and therefore we are at our most comfortable, natural and genuine state, with the expectation that there will be more to come. To have the cognisance of 'knowing' would potentially change my stance to a fallacy and make me become unnaturally obsessive or contrived." I'd spend my life waiting for a message from him. | |||
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"… Though personally I'd have a double rum not run." Yeh. Rum, don’t run! Should be a slogan sticker for your gym locker. | |||
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"Sometimes we get the chance to show how much we love someone and sadly sometimes we don’t. Sometimes the words, the kisses, the hugs can never feel enough. We could cling on to someone for hours, even days and would still regret ever letting them go. Love is carried in our hearts and if we truly love someone, they will know, even if we didn’t get a last opportunity to show it " This is beautiful Samantha, x | |||
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"Sometimes we get the chance to show how much we love someone and sadly sometimes we don’t. Sometimes the words, the kisses, the hugs can never feel enough. We could cling on to someone for hours, even days and would still regret ever letting them go. Love is carried in our hearts and if we truly love someone, they will know, even if we didn’t get a last opportunity to show it " This..... | |||
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"It most definitely would…. I’ve only ever really had it happen to me suddenly like that I was 19 and serving in Northern Ireland spoke to my dad on the Friday and talked for a while all pre mobile phone. And was told on the Sunday morning he had died the night before from a massive heart attack He was 47 my life changed that day I regret not spending more time with him, but at 19 you don’t feel you need any advice I’d love him to be around now to see his grand daughter, to go for a beer with and ask him his advice on things. " I now tell those close to me everyday I love them, and I never go to bed on a bad word. I’d sooner eat humble pie and apologise first and end the night friends and no cross words | |||
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"Sometimes we get the chance to show how much we love someone and sadly sometimes we don’t. Sometimes the words, the kisses, the hugs can never feel enough. We could cling on to someone for hours, even days and would still regret ever letting them go. Love is carried in our hearts and if we truly love someone, they will know, even if we didn’t get a last opportunity to show it This is beautiful Samantha, x" Unfortunately, I’ve had my fair share of loss, both sudden and expected and I would say they’re equally awful in different ways x | |||
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"Sometimes we get the chance to show how much we love someone and sadly sometimes we don’t. Sometimes the words, the kisses, the hugs can never feel enough. We could cling on to someone for hours, even days and would still regret ever letting them go. Love is carried in our hearts and if we truly love someone, they will know, even if we didn’t get a last opportunity to show it This..... " | |||
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"Sometimes we get the chance to show how much we love someone and sadly sometimes we don’t. Sometimes the words, the kisses, the hugs can never feel enough. We could cling on to someone for hours, even days and would still regret ever letting them go. Love is carried in our hearts and if we truly love someone, they will know, even if we didn’t get a last opportunity to show it This..... " Yep exactly this | |||
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"A person dying then yes, when my grandfather died it broke me as a kid as he was my hero and to have time with him as a teenager and an adult, I would have loved to have his advice, his time. Friends come and go, I know people have lives as do I and people have their roads to travel, sometimes those oads cross, sometimes they deverge away from each other. Relasionships no, because I have been emotionaly betrayed too many times that I wish they had left sooner. A beautiful post Raven." Those you lose, they're the hardest. There's nothing you can do. I have one relationship I wish had left sooner! I can be thoughtful, sometimes. | |||
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"Would it have made a difference knowing that it was the last time? Last time you saw that someone. Last time you held their hand. Last time you spoke to them. The last message you sent. The last time you felt their lips on yours. There's a lot of things we do and we don't realise at the time that that's the last time we'll ever do that. Would you of changed things if you'd known? Spent a little longer writing that message knowing they'd never read another. When you kissed them goodbye, if you knew it was the last time would you have a kissed them a little longer. Not knowing it's the last time, a blessing or a curse? " Quite simply.....yes | |||
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"That's pretty deep. Two moments pop into my mind. Probably the two women I have loved the most. My wife, she went to the GP with a headache. Next time I saw her she was on life support in ICU. Still remember the last moment like yesterday. I was hanging some stupid blinds. I said do you want me to come with you. She said no she would be fine. Wish I had gone, maybe I could have said goodbye then. Second an absolute whirlwind of a scouser. She asked me to leave my wife for her, I said no. She went for me. She was only little 5' 2" but she punched like Chun li! I had her at arm's length whilst she was flailing at me, then she bit my wrist deep man locked on like a pitbull. Wife came home like wtf. She stormed out. Looked back at me from the bottom of the stairs, like this is it. Told her to fuck off. Wish I hadn't done that. She called me months later said she still loved me. Never heard from or saw her again." Normal service will resume soon, promise. You just never sometimes though. I think on the whole it's better to not know, but then in certain situations it's just utterly heartbreaking. Life can be cruel at times. | |||
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"This made me instantly think of my dog who I had to put to sleep 3 weeks ago it broke me and when i took him in didn’t even get to cuddle and say goodbye properly" Why not? | |||
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"This made me instantly think of my dog who I had to put to sleep 3 weeks ago it broke me and when i took him in didn’t even get to cuddle and say goodbye properly Why not? " Becuase they took him away for checks not knowing how bad it was, next time I see him to put him to sleep he didn’t know I was there | |||
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"I'd have stayed longer. Talked it through. Then maybe I wouldn't have lost him. " I wish I'd done this. | |||
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"This made me instantly think of my dog who I had to put to sleep 3 weeks ago it broke me and when i took him in didn’t even get to cuddle and say goodbye properly Why not? Becuase they took him away for checks not knowing how bad it was, next time I see him to put him to sleep he didn’t know I was there" Oh no, I'm really sorry you had to go through that. | |||
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"This made me instantly think of my dog who I had to put to sleep 3 weeks ago it broke me and when i took him in didn’t even get to cuddle and say goodbye properly" I hady dog put down 2 years ago and I still remember every second. | |||
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"This made me instantly think of my dog who I had to put to sleep 3 weeks ago it broke me and when i took him in didn’t even get to cuddle and say goodbye properly I hady dog put down 2 years ago and I still remember every second. " To be honest it’s the hardest coming home and him not being here, broke me | |||
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"This made me instantly think of my dog who I had to put to sleep 3 weeks ago it broke me and when i took him in didn’t even get to cuddle and say goodbye properly I hady dog put down 2 years ago and I still remember every second. To be honest it’s the hardest coming home and him not being here, broke me " Or coming home and the other one is wondering where he is | |||
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"Would it have made a difference knowing that it was the last time? Last time you saw that someone. Last time you held their hand. Last time you spoke to them. The last message you sent. The last time you felt their lips on yours. There's a lot of things we do and we don't realise at the time that that's the last time we'll ever do that. Would you of changed things if you'd known? Spent a little longer writing that message knowing they'd never read another. When you kissed them goodbye, if you knew it was the last time would you have a kissed them a little longer. Not knowing it's the last time, a blessing or a curse? " Ive always spent the time in doing as much as possible but no longer a door mat. It's only a blessing if you let them in again but a curse they have to live with if not is it worth it | |||
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"This made me instantly think of my dog who I had to put to sleep 3 weeks ago it broke me and when i took him in didn’t even get to cuddle and say goodbye properly" Hugs xx | |||
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"That's pretty deep. Two moments pop into my mind. Probably the two women I have loved the most. My wife, she went to the GP with a headache. Next time I saw her she was on life support in ICU. Still remember the last moment like yesterday. I was hanging some stupid blinds. I said do you want me to come with you. She said no she would be fine. Wish I had gone, maybe I could have said goodbye then. Second an absolute whirlwind of a scouser. She asked me to leave my wife for her, I said no. She went for me. She was only little 5' 2" but she punched like Chun li! I had her at arm's length whilst she was flailing at me, then she bit my wrist deep man locked on like a pitbull. Wife came home like wtf. She stormed out. Looked back at me from the bottom of the stairs, like this is it. Told her to fuck off. Wish I hadn't done that. She called me months later said she still loved me. Never heard from or saw her again. Normal service will resume soon, promise. You just never sometimes though. I think on the whole it's better to not know, but then in certain situations it's just utterly heartbreaking. Life can be cruel at times. " I expect you to be tearing my heart out and my last moments are witnessing you eat it, by tomorrow. I agree with you on the whole. And yes life can be vicious. Joyful too with a bit of | |||
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"This is very close to my heart. The last time I saw my late beloved I didn't know it was going to be the last time. We had a perfect day and I wouldn't have changed anything. It's a memory I hold dear. The very last time I spoke to him on the phone was just a quick call to tell me something. I wish the call had been longer. We always ended our calls with I love you so that is the very last words we said to each other." | |||
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"A person dying then yes, when my grandfather died it broke me as a kid as he was my hero and to have time with him as a teenager and an adult, I would have loved to have his advice, his time. Friends come and go, I know people have lives as do I and people have their roads to travel, sometimes those oads cross, sometimes they deverge away from each other. Relasionships no, because I have been emotionaly betrayed too many times that I wish they had left sooner. A beautiful post Raven. Those you lose, they're the hardest. There's nothing you can do. I have one relationship I wish had left sooner! I can be thoughtful, sometimes. " You'll be fine when the rum's gone.. | |||
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"Would it have made a difference knowing that it was the last time? Last time you saw that someone. Last time you held their hand. Last time you spoke to them. The last message you sent. The last time you felt their lips on yours. There's a lot of things we do and we don't realise at the time that that's the last time we'll ever do that. Would you of changed things if you'd known? Spent a little longer writing that message knowing they'd never read another. When you kissed them goodbye, if you knew it was the last time would you have a kissed them a little longer. Not knowing it's the last time, a blessing or a curse? " I knew it was the last time the morning I woke up with my head on my husbands chest, him intubated on a hospital bed. Knowing the night before the doctors had said they could do no more. I knew what was coming, I knew his machines would be switched off. In the few days before I’d squeeze his hand to see oh he squeezed back. He did once. I held on tight. I got close to his ear and told him how happy he had made me, how much I loved him, I played him videos so he could hear the kids voices on it, told him we would never stop talking about him. The last time I spoke to him was four days prior. I’d been in to see him already that day but had a feeling I just wanted to go back. The nurses said they were asking him if he wanted any food, any water, and he just said ‘where’s my wife’ I tried to help him feel comfortable. Helped him sip his water. We both laughed when he had to wear this cpap head thing, he said take a pic- as we thought we could laugh about it once he was home. I told him I loved him, he told me. The next day he was intubated so un conscious when I got there. Stupidly I didn’t realise he would be unconscious. Maybe I would have said more the night before. I don’t know if knowing it was all the last time was a blessing or a curse. My heart breaks with the memories, I’m sobbing as I type. It’ll never, ever leave me. The last kiss was after I’d watched him die. We left the room and they cleared away all the machines and equipment. We went back in and he still had a tube up his nose but it was clipped. They had to keep it there as we wanted a post mortem. When I kissed him I could smell the tube. He always had the softest lips. I couldn’t believe he was lying there, not moving but still warm. Tell the people you love that you love them - how much they mean to you. Say it again, and again, over and over | |||
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"Would it have made a difference knowing that it was the last time? Last time you saw that someone. Last time you held their hand. Last time you spoke to them. The last message you sent. The last time you felt their lips on yours. There's a lot of things we do and we don't realise at the time that that's the last time we'll ever do that. Would you of changed things if you'd known? Spent a little longer writing that message knowing they'd never read another. When you kissed them goodbye, if you knew it was the last time would you have a kissed them a little longer. Not knowing it's the last time, a blessing or a curse? " Yes. Too many last times with hindsight. Now, every time I say goodbye to my family I fear it’ll be the last time. When Ailsa and our child go out for the day, I watch them drive away and I say a little prayer that they’ll both come back (I’m not religious, but I do it anyway). | |||
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"Exactly a year ago today, my beloved was taken into hospital after fainting. She'd had seizures before and the paramedics took her in just before midnight on 30th April. I spoke to her later after she had been admitted. The next morning, 1st May, I went into visit her, she was in the critical care unit - ICU by another name. I spent a couple of hours there and arranged to come back later because a Tesco delivery was due. As I left we exchanged our usual words of endearment. She'd just ordered fish pie for lunch. I'd barely been home 10mins when I got a call to say I should get back to the hospital as soon as I could. When I got there, they told me she'd had a cardiac arrest but they had got her back but she was on a ventilator, and unconscious. I remember seeing the fish pie on a table at the side of the room. I called her children and sister so they could be there too. She didn't recover consciousness and the life support was turned off at about 11:45 that evening. We always said how much we loved each other but I wish I hadn't left to be there for the delivery. I don't know if that would have made any difference though. " Fuck Glen. I thought a woman could only make me cry. Dude. *bro hug. | |||
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"Exactly a year ago today, my beloved was taken into hospital after fainting. She'd had seizures before and the paramedics took her in just before midnight on 30th April. I spoke to her later after she had been admitted. The next morning, 1st May, I went into visit her, she was in the critical care unit - ICU by another name. I spent a couple of hours there and arranged to come back later because a Tesco delivery was due. As I left we exchanged our usual words of endearment. She'd just ordered fish pie for lunch. I'd barely been home 10mins when I got a call to say I should get back to the hospital as soon as I could. When I got there, they told me she'd had a cardiac arrest but they had got her back but she was on a ventilator, and unconscious. I remember seeing the fish pie on a table at the side of the room. I called her children and sister so they could be there too. She didn't recover consciousness and the life support was turned off at about 11:45 that evening. We always said how much we loved each other but I wish I hadn't left to be there for the delivery. I don't know if that would have made any difference though. Fuck Glen. I thought a woman could only make me cry. Dude. *bro hug. " Thanks Woody | |||
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