FabSwingers.com forum: same sex marriages to be taught in schools.

By *ub bbw OP Woman
over a year ago

oldbury

There has been a heated discussion on this morning as to whether this should be taught in schools. I completely believe it should be taught as it might help many teenagers cope with acceptance of being gay.

There is a horrible little man on there who is saying its un natural and that something must happen in a childs childhood to make them gay its not normal and that it shouldnt be allowed in schools. He promotes hetrosexual relationships and says that its the only way to live you can choose not to be gay ive not heard so much rubbish in a while. What are your _iews on same sex marriage being taught in schools?

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By *xodussxMan
over a year ago

sheffield

Soon or later all kids will know and ask some question. We better teach them as soon as possible and needed. Our time is changing and changing fast. The more they know about all what is around them the better it is.

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

I missed the age they were suggesting, all for it in secondary school.

results were close though at 60/40

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think it should be taught in schools. Why not? It's not like it's taboo anymore

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Personally I don't see a problem with it at all but you will always get those vehemently opposed to the idea with unfounded evidence like this idiot

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By *ub bbw OP Woman
over a year ago

oldbury

"I missed the age they were suggesting, all for it in secondary school.

results were close though at 60/40

I believe it was high school age. I completely agree it should be taught as times are changing as holly pointed out women used to be surpressed look at us now thye let us vote and drive so why not teach about something else that is changing with the times

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

"I missed the age they were suggesting, all for it in secondary school.

results were close though at 60/40

thanks, I missed the start and was then thrown by the _iewers comment re her 7 year old daughter being at an impressionable age.

cheers

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There has been a heated discussion on this morning as to whether this should be taught in schools. I completely believe it should be taught as it might help many teenagers cope with acceptance of being gay.

The homophobic (or as I like to call them, 'latent') Brigade have sneakily got us all using the word 'Taught' in reference to schoolchildren being 'informed' about same sex marriage. And in that sentence is the point. What we are really talking about is being informed, not taught (or 'made to believe' if you prefer).

It's as inflammatory as the difference between education and training. If your teenage daughter came home from school and said 'we had sex education today' you wouldn't even blink. But if she came home and said "We had sex training today" you'd be in orbit faster than the Arianne rocket!!!!

It's the same with being 'taught' and being 'informed' isn't it...?

Didn't see the programme, but I would imagine the 'little bloke' has rather more issues with his own sexuality he should be addressing without concerning himself with others _iews, beliefs or opinions...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Of course it should be taught as acceptable. I would hope that this is a no brainer in this day and age. But I've been wrong before.

I imagine faith schools will still ignore it though as they do with darwinism.

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By *picenicelyCouple
over a year ago

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By not teaching it in the same way as heterosexual relationships, we are unintentionally showing that it is not accepted. Many pupils and people have a flawed idea of what being gay or bi is (i.e people act in certain ways).

Why should any child or person feel that they must keep their sexuality a secret?

Using teaching we are creating a more racially accepting society so why are we not doing the same over sexuality? There will always be bigots but by informing people during childhood/youth it becomes normal and not something you find out exists from whispers in the schoolyard. Finding out that way makes sexuality akin to the grey lady but unlike her we find out that homo- and bi- sexuality exist then by not teaching that it is normal we keep it in private talk and whispers.

We should tell people to speak up and stop whispering, it is not a dirty little secret. It is normal.

The sooner we make it normal the faster young people begin to accept and stop feeling the need to hide.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not sure about primary school but definitely in high schools. Primary age may be too immature to deal with it. Although the same could be argued for some adults... I know...!

I've taken the kids to Pride a few times. We had great fun. They didn't bat an eyelash when we met up with my tall butch mate who was in full drag. It made me proud.

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By *ub bbw OP Woman
over a year ago

oldbury

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By *ub bbw OP Woman
over a year ago

oldbury

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some countries have banned this act in education and the bigot was saying it wont go through in this country as it will be boycotted im hoping thats not the case as i have worked with many people in my time who have turned to drugs and self harming due to conflicts with their sexuality i would hope this will make it more acceptable for people to be gay in this day and age afterall we dont live in the dark ages any more

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Same Sex Marriages to be taught in Schools? How do you teach marriage in schools - same sex or otherwise?

Seriously I don't get why its such an issue with all this same sex marriage issue. Let everyone have the right to be as miserable as everyone else.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I agree!! My son is gay and has a lovely partner. My daughter once asked me (15 now but this was when she was about 13) "Why dose Carl keep cuddling that boy" I did laugh at first but i got Carl to explain to her. She was fine with it. if anybody says anything about it in a nasty way she will defend him.

Carl himself had a night mare time at school when he came out, the bullying was so bad that i had to go and sort it, i can be a nasty bitch if someone upsets my children, i even turned on one boy that was calling him ridiculous names and said to his face " Those that ridicule gay people are very unsure of their own sexuality" At that point all his friends moved away from him....... RESULT !!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nothing wrong with informing but any suggestion of promoting and I would express concern.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was not born bisexual. It was a lifestyle choice I made to try it and found I liked it, but it's not something I *have* to do and I certainly don't feel like I'm denying my sexuality if I don't have m/m fun for a while.

I am of the opinion that high school students could be given information about different sexualities, but not younger children in junior school. They just don't need that information yet.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I was not born bisexual. It was a lifestyle choice I made to try it and found I liked it, but it's not something I *have* to do and I certainly don't feel like I'm denying my sexuality if I don't have m/m fun for a while.

I am of the opinion that high school students could be given information about different sexualities, but not younger children in junior school. They just don't need that information yet."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Agree with Warrington on this one - information at the right age is fine , but promotion ? Not so sure on that one , and assuming we are talking about secondary schools , can't see a problem .

No person should feel awkward or ashamed of what they are , but at what age is one sure ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If anything is to be taught in schools, it should be "How to keep out of dept"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Agree with Warrington on this one - information at the right age is fine , but promotion ? Not so sure on that one , and assuming we are talking about secondary schools , can't see a problem .

No person should feel awkward or ashamed of what they are , but at what age is one sure ?

What do you mean by 'promote'??!

Do you seriously think it's a choice? I am bi because I'm bi, not because it's fashionable.

Some people know at a young age so it would help them if it is discussed in schools. Some people don't fully understand their sexuality until they are adults.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am of the opinion that high school students could be given information about different sexualities, but not younger children in junior school. They just don't need that information yet.

Agreed.

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over a year ago

I am of the opinion that high school students could be given information about different sexualities, but not younger children in junior school. They just don't need that information yet."

I absolutely agree with you wishy but I'd actually take it further, yes children at junior school need to be taught sex Ed but I think we are trying to make our kids grow up too fast. I am out to my mum and brother, I came out last year over Sunday dinner, my brother came out as bi when he was 17. If we had have been taught about same sex relationships at high school and not had that information purposely held back by the national curriculum I think we would have both felt more at ease with our sexuality. Teach them about same sex marriages and relationships and also about same sex sex. What we are doing is not helping them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Agree with Warrington on this one - information at the right age is fine , but promotion ? Not so sure on that one , and assuming we are talking about secondary schools , can't see a problem .

No person should feel awkward or ashamed of what they are , but at what age is one sure ?

What do you mean by 'promote'??!

Do you seriously think it's a choice? I am bi because I'm bi, not because it's fashionable.

Some people know at a young age so it would help them if it is discussed in schools. Some people don't fully understand their sexuality until they are adults."

And that is exactly the point , and what I mean by promote - you have answered your own question ! The fact there are young children and older children who are unsure is a perfect example of why information is vital - but promoting one way or another would be wrong .

Not once was there any inference that you chose to be bi was there ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Reminds me of the old line…..

“My mother made me a homosexual”

To which the reply is…

”If I get her the wool would she make me one too?”

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

same sex relationships and marrages are parts of our society and every day lifes now, so why shouldnt it be tought in school?

You cant teach a child to be gay so teaching this isnt going to sway a child sexuality, what it may do tho is help children who do feel different realise they arnt abnormal, and im my eyes thats a good thing

People need to get with the times and realise gay and lesbians wont go away, maybe some was happier when it was swept under the carpet and noone talked about it but those days have gone

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Agree with Warrington on this one - information at the right age is fine , but promotion ? Not so sure on that one , and assuming we are talking about secondary schools , can't see a problem .

No person should feel awkward or ashamed of what they are , but at what age is one sure ?

What do you mean by 'promote'??!

Do you seriously think it's a choice? I am bi because I'm bi, not because it's fashionable.

Some people know at a young age so it would help them if it is discussed in schools. Some people don't fully understand their sexuality until they are adults.

Not once was there any inference that you chose to be bi was there ?

Sorry, didn't mean at all that you inferred that I chose to be bi. That was just a general comment to go along with the promotion question.

My point being that I didn't understand what was meant by the word promote- as it makes it sound (to me) that if you 'promote' it to kids they will think it's cool and then turn gay/ bi.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Agree with Warrington on this one - information at the right age is fine , but promotion ? Not so sure on that one , and assuming we are talking about secondary schools , can't see a problem .

No person should feel awkward or ashamed of what they are , but at what age is one sure ?

What do you mean by 'promote'??!

Do you seriously think it's a choice? I am bi because I'm bi, not because it's fashionable.

Some people know at a young age so it would help them if it is discussed in schools. Some people don't fully understand their sexuality until they are adults.

Not once was there any inference that you chose to be bi was there ?

Sorry, didn't mean at all that you inferred that I chose to be bi. That was just a general comment to go along with the promotion question.

My point being that I didn't understand what was meant by the word promote- as it makes it sound (to me) that if you 'promote' it to kids they will think it's cool and then turn gay/ bi. "

Not at all - by informing and making it clear that whatever your sexuality it's fine , the education system is doing a good job.

Because in the past homosexuality was deemed by the powers that be to be wrong , it's of concern that the new system may inadvertently promote homosexuality by trying to undo the wrongs of the past , and that is my only concern . Hopefully a balanced and informative take on both will prevail with no promotion either way

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