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"How many of you have them on and are ready to move around in the snow ? Surprisingly so many people have never heard they exist " I didn't know | |||
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"if you want to move around in the snow get a 4x4x " Even with the 4x4 in the proper snow they are much better than the ordinary ones | |||
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"As we both come from a country where is legal requirement to have winter tyres on from November to April, it's so amusing for us to see how the whole country can be brought to a stand still even with the small dusting of the white stuff " Should be legal requirement here too, they work best in cold, wet, ice and snow. Would probably save a lot of lives. | |||
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"How many of you have them on and are ready to move around in the snow ? Surprisingly so many people have never heard they exist " a total waste of money. someones idea of a money spinner. it doesnt snow enough to warant paying hundreds of pounds for new tyres your hardly going to use. | |||
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"How many of you have them on and are ready to move around in the snow ? Surprisingly so many people have never heard they exist a total waste of money. someones idea of a money spinner. it doesnt snow enough to warant paying hundreds of pounds for new tyres your hardly going to use. " Really? Depends on your circumstances doesn't it? My two winter tyres cost me £180. If I had a bump in my taxi I would lose my NCB (can't protect taxi NCB) and that would cost me an extra £1500-1800 next year alone. No brainer as far as I am concerned... | |||
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"As we both come from a country where is legal requirement to have winter tyres on from November to April, it's so amusing for us to see how the whole country can be brought to a stand still even with the small dusting of the white stuff " best post ever. Learn to drive properly and there's no need for winter tyres in the uk. Personally I think in the risk adverse society we live in people think they need things that they really don't need. Good way for the tire manufactures to make money though x | |||
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"How many of you have them on and are ready to move around in the snow ? Surprisingly so many people have never heard they exist a total waste of money. someones idea of a money spinner. it doesnt snow enough to warant paying hundreds of pounds for new tyres your hardly going to use. Really? Depends on your circumstances doesn't it? My two winter tyres cost me £180. If I had a bump in my taxi I would lose my NCB (can't protect taxi NCB) and that would cost me an extra £1500-1800 next year alone. No brainer as far as I am concerned... " No brainer indeed for our kind of work....but 1 thing you got wrong...you can protect taxi no claims bonus ...mine is protected and has been for last 4 or 5 yrs | |||
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"How many of you have them on and are ready to move around in the snow ? Surprisingly so many people have never heard they exist " check previous forum post from 8 weeks ago. http://www.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/133723 it will give you plenty of advice | |||
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"I grew up in Germany, my dad was in the forces, so I am used to having a set of winter tyres and summer tyres. I was shocked that people do not change their tyres over here I dont understand the argument that tyres are dear enough, so having 2 sets is silly I tried to point out each set is only used half a year so really will last longer and what price do you put on good safe tyres, when you travel with friends, family and children? But then so many people do not even check their tyres or tyre pressure " not strictly true as once tyres have been inflated they will degrade,so storing them can have issues.. | |||
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"How many of you have them on and are ready to move around in the snow ? Surprisingly so many people have never heard they exist a total waste of money. someones idea of a money spinner. it doesnt snow enough to warant paying hundreds of pounds for new tyres your hardly going to use. Really? Depends on your circumstances doesn't it? My two winter tyres cost me £180. If I had a bump in my taxi I would lose my NCB (can't protect taxi NCB) and that would cost me an extra £1500-1800 next year alone. No brainer as far as I am concerned... No brainer indeed for our kind of work....but 1 thing you got wrong...you can protect taxi no claims bonus ...mine is protected and has been for last 4 or 5 yrs " Who are you with then? I've asked this for years and been told no!!! | |||
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"How many of you have them on and are ready to move around in the snow ? Surprisingly so many people have never heard they exist a total waste of money. someones idea of a money spinner. it doesnt snow enough to warant paying hundreds of pounds for new tyres your hardly going to use. Really? Depends on your circumstances doesn't it? My two winter tyres cost me £180. If I had a bump in my taxi I would lose my NCB (can't protect taxi NCB) and that would cost me an extra £1500-1800 next year alone. No brainer as far as I am concerned... " why only fit two? it should be all four as your vehicle require traction at all 4 corners. | |||
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"I grew up in Germany, my dad was in the forces, so I am used to having a set of winter tyres and summer tyres. I was shocked that people do not change their tyres over here I dont understand the argument that tyres are dear enough, so having 2 sets is silly I tried to point out each set is only used half a year so really will last longer and what price do you put on good safe tyres, when you travel with friends, family and children? But then so many people do not even check their tyres or tyre pressure " sod that. I pay about £660 a set for mine. I'm not shedding that out again for only a few weeks use. 4 wheel drive, drive carefully, know how to drive and drive only if necessary in extreme weather means I don't need them in this country | |||
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"How many of you have them on and are ready to move around in the snow ? Surprisingly so many people have never heard they exist a total waste of money. someones idea of a money spinner. it doesnt snow enough to warant paying hundreds of pounds for new tyres your hardly going to use. Really? Depends on your circumstances doesn't it? My two winter tyres cost me £180. If I had a bump in my taxi I would lose my NCB (can't protect taxi NCB) and that would cost me an extra £1500-1800 next year alone. No brainer as far as I am concerned... why only fit two? it should be all four as your vehicle require traction at all 4 corners." Cos £360 was pushing it a bit!! It's a FWD MPV, so all the pulling and the majority of the braking is on the front wheels, and the back tyres get hardly any wear. If the backs had been more worn, I would have put winters on there too, plus I am usually carrying both people and luggage, and the weight helps. | |||
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"How many of you have them on and are ready to move around in the snow ? Surprisingly so many people have never heard they exist a total waste of money. someones idea of a money spinner. it doesnt snow enough to warant paying hundreds of pounds for new tyres your hardly going to use. Really? Depends on your circumstances doesn't it? My two winter tyres cost me £180. If I had a bump in my taxi I would lose my NCB (can't protect taxi NCB) and that would cost me an extra £1500-1800 next year alone. No brainer as far as I am concerned... No brainer indeed for our kind of work....but 1 thing you got wrong...you can protect taxi no claims bonus ...mine is protected and has been for last 4 or 5 yrs Who are you with then? I've asked this for years and been told no!!! " You have guys.blocked so send me a msg i'll be able to reply ty | |||
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"How many of you have them on and are ready to move around in the snow ? Surprisingly so many people have never heard they exist a total waste of money. someones idea of a money spinner. it doesnt snow enough to warant paying hundreds of pounds for new tyres your hardly going to use. Really? Depends on your circumstances doesn't it? My two winter tyres cost me £180. If I had a bump in my taxi I would lose my NCB (can't protect taxi NCB) and that would cost me an extra £1500-1800 next year alone. No brainer as far as I am concerned... No brainer indeed for our kind of work....but 1 thing you got wrong...you can protect taxi no claims bonus ...mine is protected and has been for last 4 or 5 yrs Who are you with then? I've asked this for years and been told no!!! You have guys.blocked so send me a msg i'll be able to reply ty " Done | |||
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"I have a set of winter wheels for my Alfa (Alfa owners are nerdy like that). I don't use winter tyres though. I grew up in the countryside in some pretty hilly areas and never seen the need, even when I had cosworth's and other powerful rear drive cars. I understand some people liking or feeling they need them. But I've found that letting 5psi out of you tyres and setting off in 2nd along with having a light right foot and turning traction control OFF has seen me through just fine. Just remember to add the 5psi back when its thawed though..." You would be better off with Hammerite Kurust | |||
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"As we both come from a country where is legal requirement to have winter tyres on from November to April, it's so amusing for us to see how the whole country can be brought to a stand still even with the small dusting of the white stuff Should be legal requirement here too, they work best in cold, wet, ice and snow. Would probably save a lot of lives. " Couldn't agree more!Unfortunately not many people are thinking this way Although we drive 4x4,the winter tyres have proven its advantages in many trips around UK and across the continent in the midlle of the winter. | |||
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"Its been too warm for them until recently with temps well over 6 degrees and they are only at their best under that. " That's just totally wrong.They are at their best in a temperatures way above 6 degrees | |||
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"Its been too warm for them until recently with temps well over 6 degrees and they are only at their best under that. That's just totally wrong.They are at their best in a temperatures way above 6 degrees " "they will improve the braking, traction and overall grip of your car at pretty much any temperature below 5-7 degrees C" You were saying? Never mind go google and wipe your foot you stepped in a big pile of it. | |||
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"Its been too warm for them until recently with temps well over 6 degrees and they are only at their best under that. That's just totally wrong.They are at their best in a temperatures way above 6 degrees "they will improve the braking, traction and overall grip of your car at pretty much any temperature below 5-7 degrees C" You were saying? Never mind go google and wipe your foot you stepped in a big pile of it. " Oh ok will forget the 20 years of driving experience and take your words for it | |||
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"Its been too warm for them until recently with temps well over 6 degrees and they are only at their best under that. That's just totally wrong.They are at their best in a temperatures way above 6 degrees " Not much of a winter tyre then | |||
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"Its been too warm for them until recently with temps well over 6 degrees and they are only at their best under that. That's just totally wrong.They are at their best in a temperatures way above 6 degrees "they will improve the braking, traction and overall grip of your car at pretty much any temperature below 5-7 degrees C" You were saying? Never mind go google and wipe your foot you stepped in a big pile of it. Oh ok will forget the 20 years of driving experience and take your words for it " LMAO just because you drive a car pays no creed to the working knowledge of its parts. Can you remap an engine management system? No (but if you claim you can I will come back with specific questions on what how you go about it) Knowledge of tyre composite has very little to do with actually being able to drive a car. I will give you full marks for the amusement factor though. | |||
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"Would have quite likely limited my ability to work this week, so depends on how you look at it/what you use your car for. Love the way people say "careful driving", if they lost control of their car I 100% guarantee they would do all the wrong things to try and recover it." Love the way people say "100% guarantee" when they can't... | |||
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"Would have quite likely limited my ability to work this week, so depends on how you look at it/what you use your car for. Love the way people say "careful driving", if they lost control of their car I 100% guarantee they would do all the wrong things to try and recover it. Love the way people say "100% guarantee" when they can't..." Defo true I'm trained to come out a spin and not oversteer track and off road but when you're on a busy road with other cars around instinct kicks in and you do ALL the wrong things hence why my last car was a total write off lucky to walk away busy motorway as well | |||
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"I'm sorry - winter tyres in this country? Really? Never even looked into it as I'd never use them. Honestly - how often does it actually make a difference? How often does it snow so much that they'd make enough of a difference to make it worth changing? A decent set of "rain" tyres maybe, but tbh I've never had a problem with standard tyres and careful driving." "A decent set of rain tyres and careful driving "Probably that's why Britain is the only country in Europe to stand still from a inch of snow | |||
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"I have a set of winter wheels for my Alfa (Alfa owners are nerdy like that). I don't use winter tyres though. I grew up in the countryside in some pretty hilly areas and never seen the need, even when I had cosworth's and other powerful rear drive cars. I understand some people liking or feeling they need them. But I've found that letting 5psi out of you tyres and setting off in 2nd along with having a light right foot and turning traction control OFF has seen me through just fine. Just remember to add the 5psi back when its thawed though... You would be better off with Hammerite Kurust " The bodywork on most modern Alfa's is generally pretty good (unless you get a Friday car) you just have to watch the battery and airbag squibs. Thankfully Alfa make their diagnostic programs available for free. The key to getting about in this weather is being prepared. Make sure your car is ready for winter by making sure your antifreeze is good, the battery is charged and you've got plenty of oil and fuel and your most of the way there. Carry a spade, a small bag of grit, jump leads, a torch, water and you're sorted. | |||
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"Dont need winter tires if you drive properly to the conditions" We can actually see today how many people are trained to drive properly to the conditions | |||
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"Yup winter tyres on my motorcycle On a serious note, no winter tyre is better than 4x4. Problem is most 4x4 drivers don't know how to drive them and think they can stop just as well so tailgate when due to the extra weight they can't! A good driver that is smooth with good throttle control should do just fine " Agree totally. If you have a 4x4 learn how to drive it and snow will never be a problem again (except for the idiots who get stuck and block the road). Oh and to the person who commented about passing "twats in their land rover". had that twice in the winter of 2010. Found one through a hedge and the other stuffed into a tree. If a 4x4 is going slow in the Ice and snow there is probably a very good reason for it and you just have not spotted it yet. | |||
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"As we both come from a country where is legal requirement to have winter tyres on from November to April, it's so amusing for us to see how the whole country can be brought to a stand still even with the small dusting of the white stuff " Just back from a skiing holiday in Austria and in a week, i saw maybe 3 4x4s. Where I stay, they are wall to wall and have to say, in the snow and on the ice, they are the most dangerous cars on the road. And they - the big poser bus ones, especially the BMWs- regularly get stuck on ice and snow on our road which is narrow and hilly, where my car 4x4 sails past. | |||
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"Love how these threads bring out all the colin McRae and Walter rohl wannabes. Ofcourse winter tyres make a difference" | |||
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"I have a set of winter wheels for my Alfa (Alfa owners are nerdy like that). I don't use winter tyres though. I grew up in the countryside in some pretty hilly areas and never seen the need, even when I had cosworth's and other powerful rear drive cars. I understand some people liking or feeling they need them. But I've found that letting 5psi out of you tyres and setting off in 2nd along with having a light right foot and turning traction control OFF has seen me through just fine. Just remember to add the 5psi back when its thawed though... You would be better off with Hammerite Kurust The bodywork on most modern Alfa's is generally pretty good (unless you get a Friday car) you just have to watch the battery and airbag squibs. Thankfully Alfa make their diagnostic programs available for free. The key to getting about in this weather is being prepared. Make sure your car is ready for winter by making sure your antifreeze is good, the battery is charged and you've got plenty of oil and fuel and your most of the way there. Carry a spade, a small bag of grit, jump leads, a torch, water and you're sorted. " And a decent mix in the washer bottle! | |||
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"As we both come from a country where is legal requirement to have winter tyres on from November to April, it's so amusing for us to see how the whole country can be brought to a stand still even with the small dusting of the white stuff " As a person who's also from one of those places, I find it both amusing but also irritating when you see people driving without headlights on in a white car or a car covered in a foot of snow with a hole cleared so they can see going forward but nowhere else! Worse still people driving close enough they could get in your car instead of being in their own!! | |||
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"Dont need winter tires if you drive properly to the conditions" Hmmm not true I'm afraid. Perhaps in England but where I'm from you'd be dead in a week | |||
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"How many of you have them on and are ready to move around in the snow ? Surprisingly so many people have never heard they exist a total waste of money. someones idea of a money spinner. it doesnt snow enough to warant paying hundreds of pounds for new tyres your hardly going to use. " Just google and youtube instead of youporn and watch the differance. | |||
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"letting 5psi does nothing for your grip only makes things worse as you close the tyre tread up not open it !plus you lose some of the tyre wall stability making steering less precise its a fable that it gives you better grip " I guess my advanced driving course along witha snow/ice driving course I took in Norway was completely wrong then! | |||
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"if you want to move around in the snow get a 4x4x " Snow tyres on a normal car is better than a range rover | |||
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"How many of you have them on and are ready to move around in the snow ? Surprisingly so many people have never heard they exist " I own a set, though not cheap, they are worth the money. With that said, it's a tough decision to purchase them when only a few areas in the UK are hit with the snow and ice conditions for long periods of the winter months. | |||
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"if you want to move around in the snow get a 4x4x Snow tyres on a normal car is better than a range rover " If you think a well driven car on snow tyres is a match for a well driven 4x4 then I am afraid there is no hope for you. | |||
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"if you want to move around in the snow get a 4x4x Snow tyres on a normal car is better than a range rover If you think a well driven car on snow tyres is a match for a well driven 4x4 then I am afraid there is no hope for you." Weird to debate with... as you have blocked me... all I did was post my evidence of a very snowed in Alpine ski resort for a season | |||
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"if you want to move around in the snow get a 4x4x Snow tyres on a normal car is better than a range rover If you think a well driven car on snow tyres is a match for a well driven 4x4 then I am afraid there is no hope for you. Weird to debate with... as you have blocked me... all I did was post my evidence of a very snowed in Alpine ski resort for a season" You were blocked because you openly admit you cheat on your wife | |||
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"How many of you have them on and are ready to move around in the snow ? Surprisingly so many people have never heard they exist " Interesting as I asked that question a few weeks ago. I have always had proper winter tyres fitted round the end of Jan and they stay on until about March or even April. I know they are an additional expense and it is not illegal to drive on normal tyres in the UK but I just consider them an essential safety feature and one that always gets me home when others struggle with the slightest dusting of snow. In many European countries it is illegal NOT to have them. | |||
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"As we both come from a country where is legal requirement to have winter tyres on from November to April, it's so amusing for us to see how the whole country can be brought to a stand still even with the small dusting of the white stuff best post ever. Learn to drive properly and there's no need for winter tyres in the uk. Personally I think in the risk adverse society we live in people think they need things that they really don't need. Good way for the tire manufactures to make money though x" Spot on mate I have been driving since 1979 and cover many miles each year all over the country, competed in a dozen Lombard rac rallies and more national events I can remember all over wales in the middle of winter and guess what..............not once have I ever got stuck enough to warrant buying "majic" snow tyres. | |||
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"Have folk thought about using what we were born with to get around with. Legs its amazing what happens when you put one foot in front of the other i believe its called walking. Anyone heard of or tried it " Sorry, but I'm not walking 25 miles to work in weather that would make people want to put winter tyres on their cars. It aint happening. HT | |||
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"There are those who swear that they’ve driven for 30 years in an unbalanced RWD vehicle with nothing but balding summer tires and never had a problem. They may be right, but that doesn’t mean that doing so is reasonable or that these results are typical. Just as the fact that my grandfather has smoked like a chimney for over 70 years and still doesn’t have lung cancer doesn’t prove that cigarettes are safe, anecdotal evidence from those who drive without snow tires doesn’t negate the major benefits of having suitable tires for winter weather conditions- the physics and accident statistics don’t lie. You yourself may even have made it through past winters without killing yourself or others, but that’s not much of a reason to continue to take the risk. Winter tires are an integral piece of winter safety equipment, and should be treated as such. " lol, you sound so much like me! Don't get me started on anecdotal evidence in homeopathy | |||
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"I have never heard of winter tyres, I do know that snow chains are only for commercial vehicles so be carefull when using them. I used to ride a motorcycle in snow as it was my only mode of transport at the time and, it taught you a lot about how to handle power on snow. Ice was a case of get off and try and push it, I used to work nights as a security guard and the places I worked was not near any public transport." Snow chains are not just for commercial vehicles but a very useful and necessary accessory when driving on snow. I have both, snow / winter tyres and chains for when i go abroad. | |||
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"............. lol, you sound so much like me! Don't get me started on anecdotal evidence in homeopathy " You seldom see the words evidence and homeopathy in the same sentence. | |||
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"............. lol, you sound so much like me! Don't get me started on anecdotal evidence in homeopathy You seldom see the words evidence and homeopathy in the same sentence." Homeopathy does not make sense at all... and yet it helps some patients. Placebo? Perhaps. But helpful either way | |||
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"............. lol, you sound so much like me! Don't get me started on anecdotal evidence in homeopathy You seldom see the words evidence and homeopathy in the same sentence. Homeopathy does not make sense at all... and yet it helps some patients. Placebo? Perhaps. But helpful either way " Frontal lobotomies 'helped' some patients. | |||
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"............. lol, you sound so much like me! Don't get me started on anecdotal evidence in homeopathy You seldom see the words evidence and homeopathy in the same sentence. Homeopathy does not make sense at all... and yet it helps some patients. Placebo? Perhaps. But helpful either way Frontal lobotomies 'helped' some patients." Kind of a bit permanent innit? | |||
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"if you want to move around in the snow get a 4x4x " I had a 4 x 4 and tbh the performance was no better than my present car on snow tyres. | |||
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"if you want to move around in the snow get a 4x4x I had a 4 x 4 and tbh the performance was no better than my present car on snow tyres." There are 4x4s and 4x4s. | |||
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"if you want to move around in the snow get a 4x4x I had a 4 x 4 and tbh the performance was no better than my present car on snow tyres. There are 4x4s and 4x4s. " Love it when you talk dirty to me | |||
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