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"I tend to find that if you don't stop they soon acknowledge you" brilliant i really did lol | |||
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"Does anyone else get rather irritated when you stop to allow people to cross and they don't acknowledge you at all? Same when you allow another driver to pull out or come through etc? Call me old fashioned by a simple raising of the hand to say thank you isn't asking much is it? " Why should they? I don't expect people to acknowledge when I stop for them. According to the Highway Code pedestrians (which we all are at some point) are the ONLY road users to have 'Right of Way'. Other road users may only have 'Priority'. What would they be acknowledging? 'Thanks for not running me over'? | |||
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"I always say thank you for those who stop for me, likewise when driving and someone let's me through. And about 50% of people say thank you when I stop for them at zebra crossings. Yes I know the highway code says you should, but is there anything wrong with manners and a bit of human interaction?? " You're sat in a tin can in rapid transit elsewhere - what meaningful human interaction could there be? | |||
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"I always say thank you for those who stop for me, likewise when driving and someone let's me through. And about 50% of people say thank you when I stop for them at zebra crossings. Yes I know the highway code says you should, but is there anything wrong with manners and a bit of human interaction?? You're sat in a tin can in rapid transit elsewhere - what meaningful human interaction could there be?" A nod, a raising of a hand, a mere look? I guess we won't agree on this, I just view it as common courtesy which some people use and others seem to think irrelevant | |||
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"I always say thank you for those who stop for me, likewise when driving and someone let's me through. And about 50% of people say thank you when I stop for them at zebra crossings. Yes I know the highway code says you should, but is there anything wrong with manners and a bit of human interaction?? You're sat in a tin can in rapid transit elsewhere - what meaningful human interaction could there be? A nod, a raising of a hand, a mere look? I guess we won't agree on this, I just view it as common courtesy which some people use and others seem to think irrelevant " Well, I've never seen it elsewhere in Europe. Seems funny to expect it here. In my opinion. | |||
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" .............. A nod, a raising of a hand, a mere look? I guess we won't agree on this, I just view it as common courtesy which some people use and others seem to think irrelevant " Even just a smile. There's not enough smiles out there. | |||
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"I only worry when I stop at a crossing and someone attempts to clean my windscreen for me...." I agree - The north circular road is terrible these days, I'd take a helicopter, but you never quite know where they're going to land... I was under the impression that if someone sets foot on a zebra crossing it's mandatory to stop, not an option or a 'should'. Similarly, for those seeking some form of acknowledgement for merely obeying the law they should bear in mind that it is optional on behalf of the other person, and not mandatory. Still, I'd like to congratulate the OP for being a careful and socially spirited driver, of which I wish there were more Wolf | |||
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"Does anyone else get rather irritated when you stop to allow people to cross and they don't acknowledge you at all? Same when you allow another driver to pull out or come through etc? Call me old fashioned by a simple raising of the hand to say thank you isn't asking much is it? " You are required by law to stop at a zebra crossing if a pedestrian is waiting to cross. No thanks is neccessary and you should consider it a rare occurance if someone does thank you. | |||
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"Does anyone else get rather irritated when you stop to allow people to cross and they don't acknowledge you at all? )" Nope. | |||
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"You're sat in a tin can in rapid transit elsewhere - what meaningful human interaction could there be? humm .... like london not nice been on the tube couple times and its horrifc no one acnolages other ppl its like there zombies i grew up in torbay and yea its got its down side but most time people are friendly and aknolage other human's londons cold and no sole :/ " It's not like that at all - that is close personal contact. However, I do agree with the London analogy. In my experience (though Londoners may disagree) I find that people are less approachable there. Oop t'North we are more likely to engage in conversation at bus stops, in queues, etc. Of course, that is a generalisation and I am sure there are exceptions - as, no doubt, people will point out. | |||
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"I don't understand why we have to be thanked for doing something we are SUPPOSED to do!!. If it is a car giving way to oncoming traffic in a narrow road where cars are parked, then I would understand. But we are MEANT to stop for pedestrians on crossings! Do we need to be thanked for stopping at red lights? Or driving on the correct side of the road? Or signalling when we are turning a corner?" no but its nice when someone does,doesnt take much does it | |||
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"You're sat in a tin can in rapid transit elsewhere - what meaningful human interaction could there be? humm .... like london not nice been on the tube couple times and its horrifc no one acnolages other ppl its like there zombies i grew up in torbay and yea its got its down side but most time people are friendly and aknolage other human's londons cold and no sole :/ " Having lived and worked in both London and Torbay I can only say that it's rubbish....I was in Newton Abbot myself today....it was like the film Zombie Land. | |||
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"I don't understand why we have to be thanked for doing something we are SUPPOSED to do!!. If it is a car giving way to oncoming traffic in a narrow road where cars are parked, then I would understand. But we are MEANT to stop for pedestrians on crossings! Do we need to be thanked for stopping at red lights? Or driving on the correct side of the road? Or signalling when we are turning a corner?no but its nice when someone does,doesnt take much does it " It doesn't matter what it takes, personally I do not get offended if I stop at a zebra crossing and the pedestrians only walk across the road and do not wave, smile, thank, grovel, do a celebratory dance or write me a nice thank you note. I just want them to cross as quickly and safely as they can and get on my way. It's not like opening doors for people. THAT is a choice and demonstrates manners. Whereas drivers HAVE to stop for pedestrians. Why should they be thanked for it. I HAVE to go to work if I want to be paid - but I don't expect my boss to thank me for every day I turn up, or the Tax Man to thank me for the tax I HAVE to pay. | |||
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"I only worry when I stop at a crossing and someone attempts to clean my windscreen for me...." I worry when I stop to cross the road and someone cleans my glasses... | |||
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" .............. A nod, a raising of a hand, a mere look? I guess we won't agree on this, I just view it as common courtesy which some people use and others seem to think irrelevant Even just a smile. There's not enough smiles out there." | |||
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"I don't understand why we have to be thanked for doing something we are SUPPOSED to do!!. If it is a car giving way to oncoming traffic in a narrow road where cars are parked, then I would understand. But we are MEANT to stop for pedestrians on crossings! Do we need to be thanked for stopping at red lights? Or driving on the correct side of the road? Or signalling when we are turning a corner?" So when you cross the road, do you keep your head down, walk straight ahead and avoid all eye contact with the person who stopped for you? Do you stare at them? Just interested. | |||
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"One of the main rules of the road is to show curtosey to other road users.. Ie giving way, abiding by the rules etc.. Should curtosey not just be given aswell as taken and that's enough without the need to wave a hand or something.. It should be standard.. Where does it end.. Saying thanks to someone for stoppping at a red light or going the correct way round a roundabout or indicating before turning.. To me anyone who expects a thank you is full of self importance.. Its all about using roads safely not expecting to be acknowledged for how great u r cos u let someone cross the road! U do it and I do it and then we r all the same right.. As for flashing.. That errs me badly! The amount of times I've been blinded by someone flashing.. Don't do it! There is a reason u never use full beams at cars ur facing grr" It isn't self importance. To make the point another way, someone working in a shop is there to serve you, so when you pruchase something do yo say thank you, are you polite, do you engage in any way whatsoever or do you ignore them because they are only doing what they are supposed to? | |||
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"One of the main rules of the road is to show curtosey to other road users.. Ie giving way, abiding by the rules etc.. Should curtosey not just be given aswell as taken and that's enough without the need to wave a hand or something.. It should be standard.. Where does it end.. Saying thanks to someone for stoppping at a red light or going the correct way round a roundabout or indicating before turning.. To me anyone who expects a thank you is full of self importance.. Its all about using roads safely not expecting to be acknowledged for how great u r cos u let someone cross the road! U do it and I do it and then we r all the same right.. As for flashing.. That errs me badly! The amount of times I've been blinded by someone flashing.. Don't do it! There is a reason u never use full beams at cars ur facing grr It isn't self importance. To make the point another way, someone working in a shop is there to serve you, so when you pruchase something do yo say thank you, are you polite, do you engage in any way whatsoever or do you ignore them because they are only doing what they are supposed to? " Never heard a shop person moan when people don't say thanks.. Can't say I would expect a thanks for doing my job either | |||
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"I don't understand why we have to be thanked for doing something we are SUPPOSED to do!!. If it is a car giving way to oncoming traffic in a narrow road where cars are parked, then I would understand. But we are MEANT to stop for pedestrians on crossings! Do we need to be thanked for stopping at red lights? Or driving on the correct side of the road? Or signalling when we are turning a corner? So when you cross the road, do you keep your head down, walk straight ahead and avoid all eye contact with the person who stopped for you? Do you stare at them? Just interested. " When I am crossing the road I am looking where I am going - safest way. | |||
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"I make the Zebras wait so the Lions get them! " I was gonna post dont the zebras have to wait til the Giraffes have gone first lol | |||
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"So anyone "just doing their job" is not worthy of decent common courtesy?? I guess we have found the level here. " That is an unfair and sweeping comment. No one is saying that at all. But ffs why do we have to go around saying 'thank you, thank you, thank you'? I NEVER expect anyone to thank me for stopping at a zebra crossing. I do not think they are rude if they do not, nor do I think that someone is especially polite if they do. Why be SO insistent that this shows a lack of consideration when we live in a society where people IGNORE their elderly and vulnerable neighbours (oh, and I expect EVERYONE will now pile in and say how charitable they are and that they always look out for them). Truth is that in this society we pick at pettiness whilst ignoring the bigger issues. | |||
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"So anyone "just doing their job" is not worthy of decent common courtesy?? I guess we have found the level here. That is an unfair and sweeping comment. No one is saying that at all. ............" If you look back you'll see that's precisely what some people are saying. | |||
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"So anyone "just doing their job" is not worthy of decent common courtesy?? I guess we have found the level here. That is an unfair and sweeping comment. No one is saying that at all. But ffs why do we have to go around saying 'thank you, thank you, thank you'? I NEVER expect anyone to thank me for stopping at a zebra crossing. I do not think they are rude if they do not, nor do I think that someone is especially polite if they do. Why be SO insistent that this shows a lack of consideration when we live in a society where people IGNORE their elderly and vulnerable neighbours (oh, and I expect EVERYONE will now pile in and say how charitable they are and that they always look out for them). Truth is that in this society we pick at pettiness whilst ignoring the bigger issues." Well I don't think it is petty to afford people who do something for me some common courtesy, whether it be serve me a sandwich, stop to let me out at a junction or save my life with surgery. It doesn't take a lot to make someone feel pretty worthless if you are rude to them, and likewise you can make some feel valued and respected with very little effort. I will leave people to decide what they would rather do, I know which side of the line I fall. | |||
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"So anyone "just doing their job" is not worthy of decent common courtesy?? I guess we have found the level here. That is an unfair and sweeping comment. No one is saying that at all. But ffs why do we have to go around saying 'thank you, thank you, thank you'? I NEVER expect anyone to thank me for stopping at a zebra crossing. I do not think they are rude if they do not, nor do I think that someone is especially polite if they do. Why be SO insistent that this shows a lack of consideration when we live in a society where people IGNORE their elderly and vulnerable neighbours (oh, and I expect EVERYONE will now pile in and say how charitable they are and that they always look out for them). Truth is that in this society we pick at pettiness whilst ignoring the bigger issues. Well I don't think it is petty to afford people who do something for me some common courtesy, whether it be serve me a sandwich, stop to let me out at a junction or save my life with surgery. It doesn't take a lot to make someone feel pretty worthless if you are rude to them, and likewise you can make some feel valued and respected with very little effort. I will leave people to decide what they would rather do, I know which side of the line I fall." It is petty in comparison to the other bigger stuff which we ignore, as a society as a whole, on a daily basis - that was my point. I do not expect thanks for not running someone down on a zebra crossing and I do not give thanks to drivers who do not run me down when I am crossing one. | |||
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"So anyone "just doing their job" is not worthy of decent common courtesy?? I guess we have found the level here. That is an unfair and sweeping comment. No one is saying that at all. ............ If you look back you'll see that's precisely what some people are saying." I do not see where anyone says people are not 'worthy' of being thanked for doing a job. If I am wrong in that - correct me - but I have not seen that said anywhere. However, the thread is about thanking people for doing something they are supposed to do - stop at a zebra crossing. | |||
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"Does anyone else get rather irritated when you stop to allow people to cross and they don't acknowledge you at all? Same when you allow another driver to pull out or come through etc? Call me old fashioned by a simple raising of the hand to say thank you isn't asking much is it? You are required by law to stop at a zebra crossing if a pedestrian is waiting to cross. No thanks is neccessary and you should consider it a rare occurance if someone does thank you." Your not actually, you MUST give way when a pedestrian has moved onto a crossing but not if there stood waiting to cross. Silly rule I know but that's how it is. | |||
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"Does anyone else get rather irritated when you stop to allow people to cross and they don't acknowledge you at all? Same when you allow another driver to pull out or come through etc? Call me old fashioned by a simple raising of the hand to say thank you isn't asking much is it? " I never think about it I drive a range rover like an assault vehicle so most people stay out of my way lol | |||
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".............. I do not expect thanks for not running someone down on a zebra crossing and I do not give thanks to drivers who do not run me down when I am crossing one." It has nothing to do with expectation or giving thanks. It's about a small common curtesy in a society rapidly becoming uncivilised. | |||
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"So anyone "just doing their job" is not worthy of decent common courtesy?? I guess we have found the level here. That is an unfair and sweeping comment. No one is saying that at all. ............ If you look back you'll see that's precisely what some people are saying. I do not see where anyone says people are not 'worthy' of being thanked for doing a job. If I am wrong in that - correct me - but I have not seen that said anywhere. However, the thread is about thanking people for doing something they are supposed to do - stop at a zebra crossing. " See comment earlier from Big Bum Brenda about shop workers. And we aren't a million miles apart here, yes maybe a zebra crossing in the grand scheme of things isn't that important, but isn't it nice when you do get a smile, a thank you, something from another human being who you probably won't ever see again that makes you feel good rather than bad? | |||
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" Think this is one of those things that differs in bigger urban places where there's too much going on, compared to smaller places where people look at each other, smile and sometimes even say hello to strangers! Obviously you're not 'entitled' to a wave - but when you get a cheery smile and a wave it can lift your whole mood. Seems like a simple, no effort gesture that would maybe make the day a little nicer if more did it. On the other hand I always dish out the finger to all the fuckwits that I let out and who ignore me. I know they can't see it, but it makes me smile " Haha we must live pretty close. Those fuckwits are in my neighbourhood too | |||
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" Think this is one of those things that differs in bigger urban places where there's too much going on, compared to smaller places where people look at each other, smile and sometimes even say hello to strangers! Obviously you're not 'entitled' to a wave - but when you get a cheery smile and a wave it can lift your whole mood. Seems like a simple, no effort gesture that would maybe make the day a little nicer if more did it. On the other hand I always dish out the finger to all the fuckwits that I let out and who ignore me. I know they can't see it, but it makes me smile Haha we must live pretty close. Those fuckwits are in my neighbourhood too " | |||
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" Think this is one of those things that differs in bigger urban places where there's too much going on, compared to smaller places where people look at each other, smile and sometimes even say hello to strangers! Obviously you're not 'entitled' to a wave - but when you get a cheery smile and a wave it can lift your whole mood. Seems like a simple, no effort gesture that would maybe make the day a little nicer if more did it. On the other hand I always dish out the finger to all the fuckwits that I let out and who ignore me. I know they can't see it, but it makes me smile " I don't think anyone on this thread said people were not 'entitled' to wave, say thanks, or whatever. The point made was that it was unnecessary and not bad manners if they did not. If people wish to do so - that is up to them. If they don't they are not being rude. | |||
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"I always say thank you for those who stop for me, likewise when driving and someone let's me through. And about 50% of people say thank you when I stop for them at zebra crossings. Yes I know the highway code says you should, but is there anything wrong with manners and a bit of human interaction?? " I do too and I usually smile at them too while mouthing thank you. They normally smile back with a thumbs up or similar. It's just habit for me, I don't even think about it, I just do it and so do my kids. | |||
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" I don't think anyone on this thread said people were not 'entitled' to wave, say thanks, or whatever. The point made was that it was unnecessary and not bad manners if they did not. If people wish to do so - that is up to them. If they don't they are not being rude." Perhaps it's not bad manners - however it is good manners to do so, and to all those that do so I'm thankful. | |||
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".............. I do too and I usually smile at them too while mouthing thank you. They normally smile back with a thumbs up or similar. It's just habit for me, I don't even think about it, I just do it and so do my kids." It's especially important with kids. We're so used (understandably) to teaching them about stranger danger that we need to remind them sometimes that it's not all bad out there. The thing I find hardest is not crossing against the green man when there's kids standing beside me. I know I can get across safely but it's not a lesson I'd want to teach them. | |||
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"You're not doing them a favour you are abiding by the rules of the road and giving people waiting or on zebra crossings their legitimate right of way. Do you expect a wave every time you give way?" | |||
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" I don't think anyone on this thread said people were not 'entitled' to wave, say thanks, or whatever. The point made was that it was unnecessary and not bad manners if they did not. If people wish to do so - that is up to them. If they don't they are not being rude. Perhaps it's not bad manners - however it is good manners to do so, and to all those that do so I'm thankful." | |||
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".............. I do too and I usually smile at them too while mouthing thank you. They normally smile back with a thumbs up or similar. It's just habit for me, I don't even think about it, I just do it and so do my kids. It's especially important with kids. We're so used (understandably) to teaching them about stranger danger that we need to remind them sometimes that it's not all bad out there. The thing I find hardest is not crossing against the green man when there's kids standing beside me. I know I can get across safely but it's not a lesson I'd want to teach them." To be fair, I'm very over protective and have drummed into my kids to never assume a driver will stop at a crossing or the lights. I tell them to WAIT until the driver HAS stopped before crossing. So because of this, we look the driver in the eye before we cross. That in itself makes you interact and it's probably why we do it | |||
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"So anyone "just doing their job" is not worthy of decent common courtesy?? I guess we have found the level here. That is an unfair and sweeping comment. No one is saying that at all. ............ If you look back you'll see that's precisely what some people are saying." If someone gives good service I will say thanks for that.. But don't see why I should say thanks for them doing their job.. Should they not thank me then for giving them my money | |||
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"So anyone "just doing their job" is not worthy of decent common courtesy?? I guess we have found the level here. That is an unfair and sweeping comment. No one is saying that at all. ............ If you look back you'll see that's precisely what some people are saying. If someone gives good service I will say thanks for that.. But don't see why I should say thanks for them doing their job.. Should they not thank me then for giving them my money " Yes | |||
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"So anyone "just doing their job" is not worthy of decent common courtesy?? I guess we have found the level here. That is an unfair and sweeping comment. No one is saying that at all. ............ If you look back you'll see that's precisely what some people are saying. If someone gives good service I will say thanks for that.. But don't see why I should say thanks for them doing their job.. Should they not thank me then for giving them my money Yes " So the world should be full of everyone just saying thanks everytime someone does something.. Where does it end | |||
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"So anyone "just doing their job" is not worthy of decent common courtesy?? I guess we have found the level here. That is an unfair and sweeping comment. No one is saying that at all. ............ If you look back you'll see that's precisely what some people are saying. If someone gives good service I will say thanks for that.. But don't see why I should say thanks for them doing their job.. Should they not thank me then for giving them my money Yes So the world should be full of everyone just saying thanks everytime someone does something.. Where does it end " In my opinion, people who don't are clearly lacking in manners. I for one was certainly brought up a different way. | |||
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"So anyone "just doing their job" is not worthy of decent common courtesy?? I guess we have found the level here. That is an unfair and sweeping comment. No one is saying that at all. ............ If you look back you'll see that's precisely what some people are saying. If someone gives good service I will say thanks for that.. But don't see why I should say thanks for them doing their job.. Should they not thank me then for giving them my money " You should thank them for doing their job which is offering you a service because it's good manners. They should definitely thank you for handing over money because it's their job AND it's good manners. I can't believe you asked this to be honest, I'm kinda hoping you're on a wind up lol | |||
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"So anyone "just doing their job" is not worthy of decent common courtesy?? I guess we have found the level here. That is an unfair and sweeping comment. No one is saying that at all. ............ If you look back you'll see that's precisely what some people are saying. If someone gives good service I will say thanks for that.. But don't see why I should say thanks for them doing their job.. Should they not thank me then for giving them my money Yes So the world should be full of everyone just saying thanks everytime someone does something.. Where does it end " It doesn't end! It's called social interaction | |||
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"i like good manners they cost nothing and brighten up your day,a quick smile a thank you,whats so hard,its not a case of wether people deserve it or not its common decency" | |||
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