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By *harpDressed Man OP   Man
over a year ago

Here occasionally, but mostly somewhere else

A Female teacher has been jailed for 32 months for having (consensual) sex with a 15 year old pupil.

Now, obviously this is A Very Bad Thing, and there should be an element of punishment.

But she's lost her job, will permanently be on the sex offenders register, has been abandoned by her friends, was getting divorced anyway & has lost her sister to cancer.

Do we really need her behind bars? It's not as if she's going to be in a position to do it again.

It just seems like a kneejerk reaction that costs a fortune and does nobody any good - the victim, society, or the culprit, who's not going to be rehabilitated by it, are they?

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By (user no longer on site)
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over a year ago

If it was a male teacher would we be questioning why he was sent to jail?

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

Yes, she abused her position......she would know she would get a jail sentance if she got found out.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes, she abused her position......she would know she would get a jail sentance if she got found out."

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By *obbytupperMan
over a year ago

Menston near Ilkley

Where does she live? I'll try to put her back on the straight and narrow path to acceptance!

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

I have to ask Plums, have you got wings?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"A Female teacher has been jailed for 32 months for having (consensual) sex with a 15 year old pupil.

Now, obviously this is A Very Bad Thing, and there should be an element of punishment.

But she's lost her job, will permanently be on the sex offenders register, has been abandoned by her friends, was getting divorced anyway & has lost her sister to cancer.

Do we really need her behind bars? It's not as if she's going to be in a position to do it again.

It just seems like a kneejerk reaction that costs a fortune and does nobody any good - the victim, society, or the culprit, who's not going to be rehabilitated by it, are they?

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At the end of the day she was in a position of trust.. Consensual or not the pupil was just 15 a child in the eyes of the Law and in the eyes of ny parent,she knew what she did was wrong and as for her personal cirumstances she hes only got herself to blame

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

To me it doesnt matter what sex the teacher is.

The teacher abused the position of trust.

The teacher is the adult and should know better therefore has to be punished.

Shona

x x x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have to ask Plums, have you got wings?"

Well since no one else is watching Rugby,I'll let you into a little secret,

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they aren't real

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By *i 1 Get 1 FreeCouple (MM)
over a year ago

birmingham

When attending school children are placed in a secure zone, for her to abuse that trust, then yes, she got what she deserved.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To me it doesnt matter what sex the teacher is.

The teacher abused the position of trust.

The teacher is the adult and should know better therefore has to be punished.

Shona

x x x "

Agree totally.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo


"I have to ask Plums, have you got wings?

Well since no one else is watching Rugby,I'll let you into a little secret,

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they aren't real "

I don't think anyone saw you plums........but wow, they look real.....I want apair

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

there was a male teacher at a college near where i live, he got a prison sentence for having consensual sex with a 17 year old girl.

Personally i dont think he should of. she was old enough, and consented.

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By *harpDressed Man OP   Man
over a year ago

Here occasionally, but mostly somewhere else


"If it was a male teacher would we be questioning why he was sent to jail?

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I did think about taking all gender-specific references out, as I do feel exactly the same would apply. I 100% agree that it is the adult who should be held entirely to account, I just wonder if there isn't a better solution.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

I don't think anyone saw you plums........but wow, they look real.....I want apair"

Next time we have an "angels N devils" party you can share mine Rugby

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

At the end of the day she's a fucking paedo and deserves all she got but I'm a bit nonplussed as to why you felt the need to mention that her sister died of cancer. Does that mean it's ok for everyone who's lost a loved one to go out and have sex with minors?

But what about thew boy involved in this case. Sure he got a hard on or else the sex couldn't have happened and yes it is different to a man raping an underage girl but this boy was probably completely unaware of how much this woman could have fucked up his life - what if she'd deliberately got herself pregnant? Or passed a disease on to him? I know I wasn't that clued up about *those* facts of life at 15 years old!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If it was a male teacher would we be questioning why he was sent to jail?

I did think about taking all gender-specific references out, as I do feel exactly the same would apply. I 100% agree that it is the adult who should be held entirely to account, I just wonder if there isn't a better solution. "

If was a male teacher with a 15yr old girl then consensual or not the teacher would have been classed as a paedophile... Male or female still the same when it comes to children,and a boy of 15 is still a child.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wouldn't mind betting though,that while she's languishing in misery,her poor "victim" is round at various mates houses,sucking on lager tins while giving them the full details of his exploits,poor little bugger!

Who's the real victim I wonder?

XXXX

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"At the end of the day she's a fucking paedo and deserves all she got but I'm a bit nonplussed as to why you felt the need to mention that her sister died of cancer. Does that mean it's ok for everyone who's lost a loved one to go out and have sex with minors?

But what about thew boy involved in this case. Sure he got a hard on or else the sex couldn't have happened and yes it is different to a man raping an underage girl but this boy was probably completely unaware of how much this woman could have fucked up his life - what if she'd deliberately got herself pregnant? Or passed a disease on to him? I know I wasn't that clued up about *those* facts of life at 15 years old!"

Agree... The OP is going on about sister with cancer ect,what about that 15 yr old lad?? The victim? He has got to live with this,not just him but his parents,siblings ect... So sorry but got no symapthy for the paedophile teacher.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I wouldn't mind betting though,that while she's languishing in misery,her poor "victim" is round at various mates houses,sucking on lager tins while giving them the full details of his exploits,poor little bugger!

Who's the real victim I wonder?

XXXX"

I am a mother to teenage kids and not all kids are as you put it ... is round at various mates houses,sucking on lager tins while giving them the full details of his exploits,poor little bugger!

Who's the real victim I wonder?

Always comes down to the kids...

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By *obblybitsCouple
over a year ago

huddersfield

It doesn't help that most of the teachers are now only a few yrs older than the pupils. in 2000 or something loads of old teachers were given early retirement. for new to take over.

I worked at a school a few years back and i witnessed an argument between two peoples the boy telling the girl were to shove it swearing and been threatening, and you guessed it the girl was actually his teacher.

I know this is regardless to the story but the teacher pupil divide has been shortened considerably witch dose not help.

BUT and a big but she was his teacher and abused his trust and broke the law and yes I do think she needs to be pulled up.

The qustion of do I think she should be in prison? I don't know I can ansure. as I was having relationships with older men underage including my husband (HE didnt know)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I wouldn't mind betting though,that while she's languishing in misery,her poor "victim" is round at various mates houses,sucking on lager tins while giving them the full details of his exploits,poor little bugger!

Who's the real victim I wonder?

XXXX

I am a mother to teenage kids and not all kids are as you put it ... is round at various mates houses,sucking on lager tins while giving them the full details of his exploits,poor little bugger!

Who's the real victim I wonder?

Always comes down to the kids... "

Chances are though,he'll be looked upon as a hero by his mates.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

when i was 18 i went to a nighclub, and yeah i ended up taking a guy home for a night.

later that week i decided to go and see if he wanted to come for a drink.

knocked on his door, his mum answered, i asked if xxxxx was in, she said i'm sorry he isnt playing out he;s doing his homework.

i was a tad shocked. lol

he was only 15 !!!!! he new dam well what he was doing . like most 15 year olds do these days....

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By *ig badMan
over a year ago

Up North :-)

We have laws. You break them and I am sure a teacher is intelligent enough to realise she is breaking one with a 15 year old then you have to deal with the consequences. Not a matter of morally innocent or not she would have been fully aware of her actions and ramifications.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I wouldn't mind betting though,that while she's languishing in misery,her poor "victim" is round at various mates houses,sucking on lager tins while giving them the full details of his exploits,poor little bugger!

Who's the real victim I wonder?

XXXX

I am a mother to teenage kids and not all kids are as you put it ... is round at various mates houses,sucking on lager tins while giving them the full details of his exploits,poor little bugger!

Who's the real victim I wonder?

Always comes down to the kids...

Chances are though,he'll be looked upon as a hero by his mates."

Possibly,but got to remember here,just because he's a boy doesnt mean he wouldnt be affected by this,what im trying to say is if it was a 15 yr old girl this would never have been posted

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By *ig badMan
over a year ago

Up North :-)


"I wouldn't mind betting though,that while she's languishing in misery,her poor "victim" is round at various mates houses,sucking on lager tins while giving them the full details of his exploits,poor little bugger!

Who's the real victim I wonder?

XXXX

I am a mother to teenage kids and not all kids are as you put it ... is round at various mates houses,sucking on lager tins while giving them the full details of his exploits,poor little bugger!

Who's the real victim I wonder?

Always comes down to the kids...

Chances are though,he'll be looked upon as a hero by his mates."

How would you feel if it was your child involved at 15, be it male or female by an adult in a position of responsibility?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just a shame she has 2 children of her own, just hope they're older so they're lifes are not ruined either.

Its always sad that theres always more than one victim in these type of events.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In a club the expertation is that the doormen would check ID and so I would assume people in a nightclub are over the age of consent.

However this woman was the childs teacher and in a position of trust and power. She would have been able to find out if the CHILD was under 16 or not simply by checking his file in the office or speaking to other teachers.

Shona

x x x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"In a club the expertation is that the doormen would check ID and so I would assume people in a nightclub are over the age of consent.

However this woman was the childs teacher and in a position of trust and power. She would have been able to find out if the CHILD was under 16 or not simply by checking his file in the office or speaking to other teachers.

Shona

x x x "

Whether the CHILD is 16 or under 16 there is still the Teacher/Pupil relationship that divides them. She broke the law on two fronts, having sex with a minor and having sex with a pupil. She has to go to prison or else we're sending the message out that only men can be paedophiles.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I wouldn't mind betting though,that while she's languishing in misery,her poor "victim" is round at various mates houses,sucking on lager tins while giving them the full details of his exploits,poor little bugger!

Who's the real victim I wonder?

XXXX

I am a mother to teenage kids and not all kids are as you put it ... is round at various mates houses,sucking on lager tins while giving them the full details of his exploits,poor little bugger!

Who's the real victim I wonder?

Always comes down to the kids...

Chances are though,he'll be looked upon as a hero by his mates.

How would you feel if it was your child involved at 15, be it male or female by an adult in a position of responsibility?"

I'd probably be as mad with the 15 year old as I would with the teacher,it takes two to tango.

There are 15 year olds and there are 15 year olds,if you get my meaning.

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By *ig badMan
over a year ago

Up North :-)


"I wouldn't mind betting though,that while she's languishing in misery,her poor "victim" is round at various mates houses,sucking on lager tins while giving them the full details of his exploits,poor little bugger!

Who's the real victim I wonder?

XXXX

I am a mother to teenage kids and not all kids are as you put it ... is round at various mates houses,sucking on lager tins while giving them the full details of his exploits,poor little bugger!

Who's the real victim I wonder?

Always comes down to the kids...

Chances are though,he'll be looked upon as a hero by his mates.

How would you feel if it was your child involved at 15, be it male or female by an adult in a position of responsibility?

I'd probably be as mad with the 15 year old as I would with the teacher,it takes two to tango.

There are 15 year olds and there are 15 year olds,if you get my meaning."

What an incredible answer! I find it hard to believe an adult would put something like that!

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By *prite128Woman
over a year ago

maidstone

where there is an offence under the newer Abuse of Trust section of the sexual offences act it spplies to young people under the age of 18 not 16 .

This is why there could be the example above of a 17yr old at college.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think she got what she deserved to be honest, although some people need to read up on what paedophilia actually is, she broke her position of trust and had sex with a minor.

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville

She clearly abused her position....... teacher having sex with a 15 year old ??? Absolutely ludicrous that anyone should suggest that its ok...its SOOOOOOOOOOOO FUCKING FAR FROM OK !!! He is a CHILD!!! she is an ADULT!!!! ITS WRONG!!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"She clearly abused her position....... teacher having sex with a 15 year old ??? Absolutely ludicrous that anyone should suggest that its ok...its SOOOOOOOOOOOO FUCKING FAR FROM OK !!! He is a CHILD!!! she is an ADULT!!!! ITS WRONG!!!!! "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I wouldn't mind betting though,that while she's languishing in misery,her poor "victim" is round at various mates houses,sucking on lager tins while giving them the full details of his exploits,poor little bugger!

Who's the real victim I wonder?

XXXX

I am a mother to teenage kids and not all kids are as you put it ... is round at various mates houses,sucking on lager tins while giving them the full details of his exploits,poor little bugger!

Who's the real victim I wonder?

Always comes down to the kids...

Chances are though,he'll be looked upon as a hero by his mates.

How would you feel if it was your child involved at 15, be it male or female by an adult in a position of responsibility?

I'd probably be as mad with the 15 year old as I would with the teacher,it takes two to tango.

There are 15 year olds and there are 15 year olds,if you get my meaning.

What an incredible answer! I find it hard to believe an adult would put something like that! "

Your obviously under the impression that all 15 year old boys still read comics and play with trainsets.

There was a case not that long ago of a female teacher being beaten and raped by a pupil.

Theres an old saying "Its a wise parent that knows its child".

To believe that todays teens have the same attitude as those from 30 years ago would be very naive indeed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"She clearly abused her position....... teacher having sex with a 15 year old ??? Absolutely ludicrous that anyone should suggest that its ok...its SOOOOOOOOOOOO FUCKING FAR FROM OK !!! He is a CHILD!!! she is an ADULT!!!! ITS WRONG!!!!!

X2 "

id like to have peace of mind knowing my kids are in safe hands at school not someone who abuses their profession. she did the crime and now doing the time

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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Your obviously under the impression that all 15 year old boys still read comics and play with trainsets.

There was a case not that long ago of a female teacher being beaten and raped by a pupil.

Theres an old saying "Its a wise parent that knows its child".

To believe that todays teens have the same attitude as those from 30 years ago would be very naive indeed."

NO matter what the teen was like ( I agree some are very "adult" indeed) the TEACHER/ADULT was wrong, they should know better , its illegal that should have been a hint!!!

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By *ig badMan
over a year ago

Up North :-)


"I wouldn't mind betting though,that while she's languishing in misery,her poor "victim" is round at various mates houses,sucking on lager tins while giving them the full details of his exploits,poor little bugger!

Who's the real victim I wonder?

XXXX

I am a mother to teenage kids and not all kids are as you put it ... is round at various mates houses,sucking on lager tins while giving them the full details of his exploits,poor little bugger!

Who's the real victim I wonder?

Always comes down to the kids...

Chances are though,he'll be looked upon as a hero by his mates.

How would you feel if it was your child involved at 15, be it male or female by an adult in a position of responsibility?

I'd probably be as mad with the 15 year old as I would with the teacher,it takes two to tango.

There are 15 year olds and there are 15 year olds,if you get my meaning.

What an incredible answer! I find it hard to believe an adult would put something like that!

Your obviously under the impression that all 15 year old boys still read comics and play with trainsets.

There was a case not that long ago of a female teacher being beaten and raped by a pupil.

Theres an old saying "Its a wise parent that knows its child".

To believe that todays teens have the same attitude as those from 30 years ago would be very naive indeed."

So the law is an ass according to you! A teacher can do what they like. Sorry but i find this attitude apauling all round and your atempts to justify underage sex very inappropriate!

So the law is an ass according to you! A teacher can do what they like. Sorry but i find this attitude appalling all round, and your attempts to justify underage sex very inappropriate! The legal age is 16.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

im my opinion yes she should be sent to jail, she was in a posotion where she was trusted with other peoples children and she abused that trust in the worse possible way, all teenage boys are going to gte a crush on a older woman, its part of growing up for them but we, as the adult should be the ones who know better and say no, she may not be in a possition to have sex with kids she teaches any more but she can still have sex with under age boys, you dont have to be a teacher to do that, ask yourself this if it was your 15 year old having sex with a teacher would you still be saying....does she really need to go to jail, she broke the law and abused her possition of trust, what else would you do with her?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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So the law is an ass according to you! A teacher can do what they like. Sorry but i find this attitude appalling all round, and your attempts to justify underage sex very inappropriate! The legal age is 16.

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legal or not teacher are just not allowed to have sex with pupils, even if he was 6th form and over the age of 16 its still frowned upon, ok she wouldnt go to prison but she would loose her job

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So the law is an ass according to you! A teacher can do what they like. Sorry but i find this attitude appalling all round, and your attempts to justify underage sex very inappropriate! The legal age is 16.

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Of course the law is an ass, think your just twisting what TraceandRic are actually saying, and that's that children are never held accountable, thats why we have children running around with babies. They have never said at any point the teacher was innocent or didn't deserve what she got.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Your obviously under the impression that all 15 year old boys still read comics and play with trainsets.

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your absolutely right, kids of today are far more advanced than years ago, most 15 year olds are sexually active we all know that, but thats why we have to put them straight, if a 15 year old is having sex with another 15 year old thats part of growing up, like it or not it happens, but for a teacher to have sex with them because they more advanced than years ago is not acceptable, thats what being an adult is all about, knowing right from wrong and acting on it

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By *ig badMan
over a year ago

Up North :-)


"So the law is an ass according to you! A teacher can do what they like. Sorry but i find this attitude appalling all round, and your attempts to justify underage sex very inappropriate! The legal age is 16.

Of course the law is an ass, think your just twisting what TraceandRic are actually saying, and that's that children are never held accountable, thats why we have children running around with babies. They have never said at any point the teacher was innocent or didn't deserve what she got. "

I read what was posted and thought it was inappropriate to post any justification no matter what of under age sex. Not going to quote things but maybe you should read all that was posted on this.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The KID here - emphasis, KID, CHILD, MINOR geddit! - was under 16 and therefore not of consensual age to have sex which makes this woman guilty of statutory rape of a minor. That puts a different slant on things doesn't it. She coldly and calculatingly set out to target a specific child and then have sex with him.

Has anyone got any information as to the boy's point of view on all of this? Some have assumed that he was lording it up with his mates over a few tinnies but who really knows? Maybe he was plain scared of the woman but his body reacted to what she was doing to him - she had the knowledge here, not him, even if he wasn't a virgin.

I find it stagerring that if this was a male teacher/female pupil he'd be vilified for the rest of his life, and rightly so, but because the genders are reversed in this case, some would believe that it's not so serious a crime.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Think everyone agrees the teacher deserved what she got, we think the point TraceandRic where trying to make is that the 15 year old also broke the law, admitted breaking the law and went unpunished., and if any 15 year old doesn’t know its illegal to have sex at 15 theres something far wrong.

As for statutory rape and paedophilia then that has to involve pre-pubescent children (under 13) might even be under 12?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"She clearly abused her position....... teacher having sex with a 15 year old ??? Absolutely ludicrous that anyone should suggest that its ok...its SOOOOOOOOOOOO FUCKING FAR FROM OK !!! He is a CHILD!!! she is an ADULT!!!! ITS WRONG!!!!! "

I'm not saying its right,just looking at it from an unbiased angle.

Yes,she did abuse her position.

No,she shouldn't have groomed him on Face Book,surely she new what the result would be,she can't have given any regard to the repurcussions for all concerned.

However,what I'm saying is, 15 year olds have changed a lot in the last 30 years.

While we still behaved much like kids at 15 these days they see themselves and are encouraged to act as adults.

That being the case,he's should be old enough,wise enough and no doubt arrogant enough to turn her down but decided not to.

Arrogant definitly,in as much as he had her initials tattooed on his arm and then went home to his parents.

He probably didn't care what effect his actions would have on them either.

Personaly at that age I'd have been scared to death of my parents reactions.

No matter how attractive the proposition,the risk would have far outweighed it.

Thats the difference between then and now.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Think everyone agrees the teacher deserved what she got, we think the point TraceandRic where trying to make is that the 15 year old also broke the law, admitted breaking the law and went unpunished., and if any 15 year old doesn’t know its illegal to have sex at 15 theres something far wrong.

As for statutory rape and paedophilia then that has to involve pre-pubescent children (under 13) might even be under 12?

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statutory rape is a 'young person' under the age of 16 that consents to sex, thats why its statutory rape because the person has given permission but because they are ligally to young to give permission its classed as rape

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By *1dKingColeMan
over a year ago

east london

All teachers know the law. they are very, very aware of it, with older children they have to live with everyday, especially male teachers who have to be seen to be careful!

The trust rules apply up to 18, 15 is not even close. She can not have been anything but aware, and is guilty (I don't know the case, so am assuming).

It is the law as it stands that is being applied, and the law is clear; let the Judge do his job impartially.

But there is more that one victim here, her family is incredibly damaged, her children are also suffering the punishment.

Also the sex alone may or may not have affected the boy, but this fuss after and the press and the local reaction will have affected him much more, he will now have guilt and remorse issues that would never have have come up had it not been made so public!

Everyone is paying the price and the price is being paid over and over.

The price may end up being very high, but the price of no punishment could be higher.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Think everyone agrees the teacher deserved what she got, we think the point TraceandRic where trying to make is that the 15 year old also broke the law, admitted breaking the law and went unpunished., and if any 15 year old doesn’t know its illegal to have sex at 15 theres something far wrong.

As for statutory rape and paedophilia then that has to involve pre-pubescent children (under 13) might even be under 12?

statutory rape is a 'young person' under the age of 16 that consents to sex, thats why its statutory rape because the person has given permission but because they are ligally to young to give permission its classed as rape"

I agree, unfortunately that isn't how the law works though or every teenie bopper family would be in court.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wow, just typed in 'teacher jailed' into google news and there's a few incidents recently, another with a music teacher who slept with a 14 and a 17 year old!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

She is the adult, she is 'in loco parentis' no matter how sexually aware the pupil was/is, she committed the crime she knew the punishment. Jail her.

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo

I don't think it matters which way round the sex of the teacher is.......both genders have abused their position....jail them, no matter what personal upset they have had.

But I can understand what Trace was saying about the pupils acting a lot different than we all probably were years ago.....BUT I don't think sexual urges will have changed for teenage boys.... Mr R always says if his French teacher had got hold of him when he was 15 he would have been in heaven.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"She clearly abused her position....... teacher having sex with a 15 year old ??? Absolutely ludicrous that anyone should suggest that its ok...its SOOOOOOOOOOOO FUCKING FAR FROM OK !!! He is a CHILD!!! she is an ADULT!!!! ITS WRONG!!!!!

I'm not saying its right,just looking at it from an unbiased angle.

Yes,she did abuse her position.

No,she shouldn't have groomed him on Face Book,surely she new what the result would be,she can't have given any regard to the repurcussions for all concerned.

However,what I'm saying is, 15 year olds have changed a lot in the last 30 years.

While we still behaved much like kids at 15 these days they see themselves and are encouraged to act as adults.

That being the case,he's should be old enough,wise enough and no doubt arrogant enough to turn her down but decided not to.

Arrogant definitly,in as much as he had her initials tattooed on his arm and then went home to his parents.

He probably didn't care what effect his actions would have on them either.

Personaly at that age I'd have been scared to death of my parents reactions.

No matter how attractive the proposition,the risk would have far outweighed it.

Thats the difference between then and now."

Spot on, you only have to look about any town on a weekend night to see that.

Nice to see a well balanced response to this as opposed to the usual hang em high voices

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Same for both sexes, regardless... and if a clear, straight to the point message isn't sent out to anyone who is in a position of trust then soon the whole fabric falls apart..

Part of teacher training is all about the pitfalls of pupil teacher relationships and trust.

Its sad whats happened but she made clear choices.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why were teachers not like that in my days

I always had fantasies of Miss McCallum keeping me back after class and using me as she saw fit.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why were teachers not like that in my days

I always had fantasies of Miss McCallum keeping me back after class and using me as she saw fit.

"

Clearly had more moral sense...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why were teachers not like that in my days

I always had fantasies of Miss McCallum keeping me back after class and using me as she saw fit.

Clearly had more moral sense... "

Or simply she had better taste

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why were teachers not like that in my days

I always had fantasies of Miss McCallum keeping me back after class and using me as she saw fit.

Clearly had more moral sense...

Or simply she had better taste "

I HAVE to be polite remember pmsl... (It won't last)

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By *obbytupperMan
over a year ago

Menston near Ilkley

At a recent school reunion I apologised to Miss Bennet the gym teacher, for looking up her gymslip.'You're the eighth person tonight to say that' she said eyes twinkling.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why were teachers not like that in my days

I always had fantasies of Miss McCallum keeping me back after class and using me as she saw fit.

Clearly had more moral sense...

Or simply she had better taste

I HAVE to be polite remember pmsl... (It won't last) "

Sincerely hope not

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Are we assuming that she was his teacher or just a teacher as all the reports I have read did not make that point clear?

I find this thread very interesting with all the double standards going on. How come most people are going mad with the teacher but are perfectly fine with the posters who have admitted to underage sex.

How long before the 15 y.o is on the front page of the papers for fathering children.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Wow, just typed in 'teacher jailed' into google news and there's a few incidents recently, another with a music teacher who slept with a 14 and a 17 year old!!!"

At the same time?

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By *lgernonMan
over a year ago

cupar


"A Female teacher has been jailed for 32 months for having (consensual) sex with a 15 year old pupil.

Now, obviously this is A Very Bad Thing, and there should be an element of punishment.

But she's lost her job, will permanently be on the sex offenders register, has been abandoned by her friends, was getting divorced anyway & has lost her sister to cancer.

Do we really need her behind bars? It's not as if she's going to be in a position to do it again.

It just seems like a kneejerk reaction that costs a fortune and does nobody any good - the victim, society, or the culprit, who's not going to be rehabilitated by it, are they?

"

A very pragmatic approach for a single case, however, you have to let other potential offenders see the deterrent, IE a custodial sentence.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I went to an all boys school and there's no way I fantasised about my form teachers. They were all old men ffs!... cept Miss Souter who became Mrs Burrows and I fervently hope that she discovered swinging in her later years and is now on here under the psuedonym of HotHornyIrishBlondeWithSexyIrishAccent ... I have searched but to no avail!

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo


"Are we assuming that she was his teacher or just a teacher as all the reports I have read did not make that point clear?

I find this thread very interesting with all the double standards going on. How come most people are going mad with the teacher but are perfectly fine with the posters who have admitted to underage sex.

How long before the 15 y.o is on the front page of the papers for fathering children."

I didn't see people "going mad" in answer to the OP question.I just saw them answer a question about a teacher who abused her position by having sex with a pupil.

Teachers know that they can't and shouldn't have sex with their pupils and if they didn't know through commom sense then they would find out as part of their training .....having underage sex behind the bike sheds with a person more or less the same age as you is hardly the same thing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Are we assuming that she was his teacher or just a teacher as all the reports I have read did not make that point clear?

I find this thread very interesting with all the double standards going on. How come most people are going mad with the teacher but are perfectly fine with the posters who have admitted to underage sex.

How long before the 15 y.o is on the front page of the papers for fathering children."

i dont think anyones saying its ok for 15 year olds to have sex, as i have stated before 15 year olds having sex with other 15 year old is part of growing up, a 15 year old lad may have sex several times with girls his own age that does not make it ok for adults to have sex with him, even more so a woman whos paid to look after him while hes in her care, of course 15 year olds will have children, kids that age have been getting pregnant and father babies for years and will do for years to come, im my opinion this threrad is not about wether 15 years have sex or now its about who they are having sex with and no matter how sexually active the 15 year old is theres no excuse at all for a teacher to have sex with him, we are the adults not the 15 year old even if a child that age makes the first move we are the ones who are supposed to say NO, not think what the hell hes having sex anyway i may as well

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Do we really need her behind bars? It's not as if she's going to be in a position to do it again.

That's assuming she doesn't have equally attractive kids as neighbours?

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

She was in a position of trust, as someone said before if it had been a male teacher the question wouldnt have arisen. She knew what she was doing so should take the consequences

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

well if you read sky news on the internet it says she groomed him on face book with a faulse profile, you dont need to be a teacher to do that

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By *plpxp2Couple
over a year ago

Middlesbrough

As a teacher you are in a position of power and trust, both have been abused in this case.

Teachers and other professional bodies (nursing, social work etc) have a clause about not bringing the profession into disrepute, so even it was not her pupil dismissal would still have been the outcome.

As other posters have said its fascinating how folks view this by gender. If it was a male teacher then his blood is needed, but for a female there's a sense of the victim being a "lucky lad". Abuse is abuse.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"well if you read sky news on the internet it says she groomed him on face book with a faulse profile, you dont need to be a teacher to do that"

You are very right she didnt need to be a teacher to groom a kid via false facebook accounts BUT she was a teacher and should have known better!!!

If she loved the boy and wanted him soo much why not wait til he is no longer a pupil and over the age of consent?? If she had waited til he was 16 and he was no longer at school then I think less people would have a problem with it.

Shona

x x x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Wow, just typed in 'teacher jailed' into google news and there's a few incidents recently, another with a music teacher who slept with a 14 and a 17 year old!!!

At the same time?"

Oh stop it .... I laughed....

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