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Putin warns of nuclear strikes.Emergency phone test tomorrow.Coincidence?

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By *ryan... OP   Man
over a year ago

1950's Original

Quickly now learn Russian..

Top tip.. Russian porn has lots of Russian words in it..

All houses who's phone has a " publicly traded entity" warning on it..will be targeted first. ...so not all bad.....

DONT PANIC.....

( ps..panic)

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Do you think my neighbours will mind if I spray paint public traded entity over the outside of the apartment block?

Will daubing the blood of a sacrificial goat on my individual front door work? I'll only piss off those on my landing if I do that, not everyone

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

I can't be arsed to panic, it seems unnecessary.

But spasiba for the advice

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"I can't be arsed to panic, it seems unnecessary.

But spasiba for the advice "

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By *mp411Man
over a year ago

chester

Turn the notifications off it’s a Trojan horse

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By *otSoPoshWoman
over a year ago

In a ball gown because that's how we roll in N. Devon

I'm going to be so confused when my phone makes a noise I don't recognise.

Doesn't matter how often I'm reminded of this warning thingy, it'll totally baffle me.

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By *4bimMan
over a year ago

Farnborough Hampshire

be a nuclear strike alright when a partners secret meet mobile suddenly goes off.

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By *ou only live onceMan
over a year ago

London


"I can't be arsed to panic, it seems unnecessary.

But spasiba for the advice "

I played the long game and did Russian at school. If you want to know my name or directions to the metro, I'm sorted.

Winning!

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By *ryan... OP   Man
over a year ago

1950's Original


"Do you think my neighbours will mind if I spray paint public traded entity over the outside of the apartment block?

Will daubing the blood of a sacrificial goat on my individual front door work? I'll only piss off those on my landing if I do that, not everyone "

The goats would have to be born in the month of late December or January to be truly sacrificial ( or any passing Capricorns will do really)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Que sera sera

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"I can't be arsed to panic, it seems unnecessary.

But spasiba for the advice

I played the long game and did Russian at school. If you want to know my name or directions to the metro, I'm sorted.

Winning!"

Kak vas zovut?

(Cyrillic no worky )

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Do you think my neighbours will mind if I spray paint public traded entity over the outside of the apartment block?

Will daubing the blood of a sacrificial goat on my individual front door work? I'll only piss off those on my landing if I do that, not everyone

The goats would have to be born in the month of late December or January to be truly sacrificial ( or any passing Capricorns will do really) "

Human sacrifice is the only atonement that will do for Putin's madness and what is being wrought upon British society with a test tweet.

Gird your loins. Hide your women!

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By *otSoPoshWoman
over a year ago

In a ball gown because that's how we roll in N. Devon


"Do you think my neighbours will mind if I spray paint public traded entity over the outside of the apartment block?

Will daubing the blood of a sacrificial goat on my individual front door work? I'll only piss off those on my landing if I do that, not everyone

The goats would have to be born in the month of late December or January to be truly sacrificial ( or any passing Capricorns will do really)

Human sacrifice is the only atonement that will do for Putin's madness and what is being wrought upon British society with a test tweet.

Gird your loins. Hide your women!"

That seems like a lot of hard work. Could we not just press the thing when it comes up on the phone to shut the noise off?

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By *ou only live onceMan
over a year ago

London


"I can't be arsed to panic, it seems unnecessary.

But spasiba for the advice

I played the long game and did Russian at school. If you want to know my name or directions to the metro, I'm sorted.

Winning!

Kak vas zovut?

(Cyrillic no worky )"

Menya zovut YOLO!

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By *ryan... OP   Man
over a year ago

1950's Original


"Do you think my neighbours will mind if I spray paint public traded entity over the outside of the apartment block?

Will daubing the blood of a sacrificial goat on my individual front door work? I'll only piss off those on my landing if I do that, not everyone

The goats would have to be born in the month of late December or January to be truly sacrificial ( or any passing Capricorns will do really)

Human sacrifice is the only atonement that will do for Putin's madness and what is being wrought upon British society with a test tweet.

Gird your loins. Hide your women!"

..way ahead of you .. they're under the patio

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Do you think my neighbours will mind if I spray paint public traded entity over the outside of the apartment block?

Will daubing the blood of a sacrificial goat on my individual front door work? I'll only piss off those on my landing if I do that, not everyone

The goats would have to be born in the month of late December or January to be truly sacrificial ( or any passing Capricorns will do really)

Human sacrifice is the only atonement that will do for Putin's madness and what is being wrought upon British society with a test tweet.

Gird your loins. Hide your women!

That seems like a lot of hard work. Could we not just press the thing when it comes up on the phone to shut the noise off?"

That's what I'm going to do, but I don't think it's a nefarious doom plot or whatever

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan
over a year ago

Kent

5Live were playing all the countries different ringtones, lots of buzzes and sirens but the Italian one sounded particularly Italian

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"I can't be arsed to panic, it seems unnecessary.

But spasiba for the advice

I played the long game and did Russian at school. If you want to know my name or directions to the metro, I'm sorted.

Winning!

Kak vas zovut?

(Cyrillic no worky )

Menya zovut YOLO! "

Da? Spasiba, rad vstreche

See, OP. We're good. We can communicate with our new overlords

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By *otSoPoshWoman
over a year ago

In a ball gown because that's how we roll in N. Devon


"Do you think my neighbours will mind if I spray paint public traded entity over the outside of the apartment block?

Will daubing the blood of a sacrificial goat on my individual front door work? I'll only piss off those on my landing if I do that, not everyone

The goats would have to be born in the month of late December or January to be truly sacrificial ( or any passing Capricorns will do really)

Human sacrifice is the only atonement that will do for Putin's madness and what is being wrought upon British society with a test tweet.

Gird your loins. Hide your women!

That seems like a lot of hard work. Could we not just press the thing when it comes up on the phone to shut the noise off?

That's what I'm going to do, but I don't think it's a nefarious doom plot or whatever "

It might be. I just don't have the energy

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By *otSoPoshWoman
over a year ago

In a ball gown because that's how we roll in N. Devon


"I can't be arsed to panic, it seems unnecessary.

But spasiba for the advice

I played the long game and did Russian at school. If you want to know my name or directions to the metro, I'm sorted.

Winning!

Kak vas zovut?

(Cyrillic no worky )

Menya zovut YOLO!

Da? Spasiba, rad vstreche

See, OP. We're good. We can communicate with our new overlords "

If I give you my last rolo would you tell them I'm really tired and could they keep the noise down please? Please?

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"I can't be arsed to panic, it seems unnecessary.

But spasiba for the advice

I played the long game and did Russian at school. If you want to know my name or directions to the metro, I'm sorted.

Winning!

Kak vas zovut?

(Cyrillic no worky )

Menya zovut YOLO!

Da? Spasiba, rad vstreche

See, OP. We're good. We can communicate with our new overlords

If I give you my last rolo would you tell them I'm really tired and could they keep the noise down please? Please?"

Da

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By *ts the taking part thatMan
over a year ago

southampton


"Quickly now learn Russian..

Top tip.. Russian porn has lots of Russian words in it..

All houses who's phone has a " publicly traded entity" warning on it..will be targeted first. ...so not all bad.....

DONT PANIC....

( ps..panic)

("

No panic, either our defence systems work of we cop for it. Panic or worry achieves nothing.

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By *ryan... OP   Man
over a year ago

1950's Original


"5Live were playing all the countries different ringtones, lots of buzzes and sirens but the Italian one sounded particularly Italian "
..

I think the Icelandic one is Bjork just singing a high note... From Reykjavik ..no phone required

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Do you think my neighbours will mind if I spray paint public traded entity over the outside of the apartment block?

Will daubing the blood of a sacrificial goat on my individual front door work? I'll only piss off those on my landing if I do that, not everyone "

Was about to send you this thread, make sure you’re prepared!

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Do you think my neighbours will mind if I spray paint public traded entity over the outside of the apartment block?

Will daubing the blood of a sacrificial goat on my individual front door work? I'll only piss off those on my landing if I do that, not everyone

Was about to send you this thread, make sure you’re prepared!"

https://youtu.be/zPUe7O3ODHQ

(Be Prepared - Lion King)

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By *ools and the brainCouple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

Don't worry Rambo will sort it all out.

Besides where we live we can see the naval dockyard any nuclear blast would go like.

Oh my phone's beeping,

What's that bright flash outside........

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Don't worry Rambo will sort it all out.

Besides where we live we can see the naval dockyard any nuclear blast would go like.

Oh my phone's beeping,

What's that bright flash outside........"

I can see it.

"My phone's beeping.

I WILL NOT COMPLY!

Oh sh..."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Load of rubbish

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've looked and looked and looked and can not work out how to turn it off. Will it work if I put my phone on flight mode?!

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By *ryan... OP   Man
over a year ago

1950's Original


"I've looked and looked and looked and can not work out how to turn it off. Will it work if I put my phone on flight mode?! "

Anyone doing that risks a visit from Dominic Raab

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By *ryan... OP   Man
over a year ago

1950's Original

If you look at the notification you YES YOU are automatically enlisted in the army. FACT

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By *otSoPoshWoman
over a year ago

In a ball gown because that's how we roll in N. Devon


"I can't be arsed to panic, it seems unnecessary.

But spasiba for the advice

I played the long game and did Russian at school. If you want to know my name or directions to the metro, I'm sorted.

Winning!

Kak vas zovut?

(Cyrillic no worky )

Menya zovut YOLO!

Da? Spasiba, rad vstreche

See, OP. We're good. We can communicate with our new overlords

If I give you my last rolo would you tell them I'm really tired and could they keep the noise down please? Please?

Da "

Fanks

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"If you look at the notification you YES YOU are automatically enlisted in the army. FACT "

I shall be a tank

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By *ools and the brainCouple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.


"If you look at the notification you YES YOU are automatically enlisted in the army. FACT "

And you know this how?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People people, really??

It's an alarm to warn of impending doom is all.

Chill out.

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By *ou only live onceMan
over a year ago

London


"People people, really??

It's an alarm to warn of impending doom is all.

Chill out. "

Definitely chill tomorrow - it's just the test. Next time: panic.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I just got a alert for severe thunderstorms

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By *ryan... OP   Man
over a year ago

1950's Original


"If you look at the notification you YES YOU are automatically enlisted in the army. FACT

And you know this how?

"

A friend of a friend,mentioning no names... Douglas... told me..

and he heard it in the Pig and whistle and Fox and hounds and hares pub

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If you look at the notification you YES YOU are automatically enlisted in the army. FACT "

Can I be a canon?

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"If you look at the notification you YES YOU are automatically enlisted in the army. FACT

Can I be a canon? "

Are you ordained?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If you look at the notification you YES YOU are automatically enlisted in the army. FACT

Can I be a canon? "

I'd gladly put my balls in you.... Wait what... That sounded better in my head

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If you look at the notification you YES YOU are automatically enlisted in the army. FACT

Can I be a canon?

Are you ordained?"

Sure, I’ll do a quick online thingy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If you look at the notification you YES YOU are automatically enlisted in the army. FACT

Can I be a canon?

I'd gladly put my balls in you.... Wait what... That sounded better in my head"

I can imagine it did

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Does the supermarket have enough tin foil for tomorrow?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"People people, really??

It's an alarm to warn of impending doom is all.

Chill out.

Definitely chill tomorrow - it's just the test. Next time: panic."

Meh, no point in panicking about the things you have no control over.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Does the supermarket have enough tin foil for tomorrow? "

I bought it all.

I'm gonna make a mint selling it on here.

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By *ou only live onceMan
over a year ago

London


"People people, really??

It's an alarm to warn of impending doom is all.

Chill out.

Definitely chill tomorrow - it's just the test. Next time: panic.

Meh, no point in panicking about the things you have no control over. "

It's most likely to be used for flooding - I'd be at panic stations to make sure the crisps were on the 1st floor.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If you look at the notification you YES YOU are automatically enlisted in the army. FACT

Can I be a canon?

I'd gladly put my balls in you.... Wait what... That sounded better in my head

I can imagine it did "

If it made you laugh, mission accomplished

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By *ools and the brainCouple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.


"If you look at the notification you YES YOU are automatically enlisted in the army. FACT

And you know this how?

A friend of a friend,mentioning no names... Douglas... told me..

and he heard it in the Pig and whistle and Fox and hounds and hares pub "

Well in that case,you should have said that from the start.

Sounds legit,it checks out, must be true

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"Does the supermarket have enough tin foil for tomorrow? "

We were substituted for greaseproof paper instead

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Does the supermarket have enough tin foil for tomorrow?

I bought it all.

I'm gonna make a mint selling it on here. "

lol we had the national alert for over 10 years with state and local alerts for mobile. No tin foil . I can't wait to laugh tomorrow about the forum complaints. It's going to be a good time.

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By *opinovMan
over a year ago

Point Nemo, Cumbria


"Turn the notifications off it’s a Trojan horse "

What, a Trojan horse from the people who brought you track and trace?.. ha ha, yeah riiijghht... that's going to be super dooooper deadly isn't it!

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By *ubal1Man
over a year ago

Newry Down

Since the defeat of the Third Reich by the Allies and the advent of the Cold War, a conflict between the two major power blocs in Europe has been simply inevitable; they detest each other and each wants to defeat and subjugate the other's territories.

The use of tactical nukes by Putin is, in my opinion an inevitability when he is pushed into a corner.

The public alarm call is a way of preparing us all psychologically for that day! It has been coming for nearly eighty years.

Putin is a product of a vicious callous system that stretches right back to the Tsars, such as Ivan the Terrible.

Joe Stalin was a paranoid psychopath who killed tens of millions with the USSR.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I find it funny. Here in the states it is used on state and national levels. Tornado severe weather warnings. Amber alerts which warns of a child abduction in my area ect..No one lost their minds or got trojan horses. It's ridiculously funny.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"Since the defeat of the Third Reich by the Allies and the advent of the Cold War, a conflict between the two major power blocs in Europe has been simply inevitable; they detest each other and each wants to defeat and subjugate the other's territories.

The use of tactical nukes by Putin is, in my opinion an inevitability when he is pushed into a corner.

The public alarm call is a way of preparing us all psychologically for that day! It has been coming for nearly eighty years.

Putin is a product of a vicious callous system that stretches right back to the Tsars, such as Ivan the Terrible.

Joe Stalin was a paranoid psychopath who killed tens of millions with the USSR. "

Yes. Only a UK Govt system would take 80yrs to get from concept to implementation, eh?

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe


"Turn the notifications off it’s a Trojan horse "

If it was a "trajan horse" the damage would have been done when it was installed, it wouldn't need to receive a signal to be activated.

Realistically, if people are genuinely worried about being tracked then you get rid of your phone completely, and everything else that connects to the Internet.

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe


"Turn the notifications off it’s a Trojan horse

If it was a "trajan horse" the damage would have been done when it was installed, it wouldn't need to receive a signal to be activated.

Realistically, if people are genuinely worried about being tracked then you get rid of your phone completely, and everything else that connects to the Internet.

"

*Trojan not Trajan

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod

over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset


"Turn the notifications off it’s a Trojan horse

If it was a "trajan horse" the damage would have been done when it was installed, it wouldn't need to receive a signal to be activated.

Realistically, if people are genuinely worried about being tracked then you get rid of your phone completely, and everything else that connects to the Internet.

"

I've heard if you shove your phone up your arse the alert won't reach it and the 5G signal won't activate the nanobots that you had pumped into you when you had your covid vaccine won't be able to make you vote Tory at the next election.

I'm lubing up first thing tomorrow in preparation........

A

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By *nliveneTV/TS
over a year ago

Selby

From tomorrow will be swapping my smart phone for my beloved Old Nokia 6150

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By *ora the explorerWoman
over a year ago

Paradise, Herts


"Turn the notifications off it’s a Trojan horse

If it was a "trajan horse" the damage would have been done when it was installed, it wouldn't need to receive a signal to be activated.

Realistically, if people are genuinely worried about being tracked then you get rid of your phone completely, and everything else that connects to the Internet.

I've heard if you shove your phone up your arse the alert won't reach it and the 5G signal won't activate the nanobots that you had pumped into you when you had your covid vaccine won't be able to make you vote Tory at the next election.

I'm lubing up first thing tomorrow in preparation........

A"

. Don’t. People will actually do it!

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Turn the notifications off it’s a Trojan horse

If it was a "trajan horse" the damage would have been done when it was installed, it wouldn't need to receive a signal to be activated.

Realistically, if people are genuinely worried about being tracked then you get rid of your phone completely, and everything else that connects to the Internet.

I've heard if you shove your phone up your arse the alert won't reach it and the 5G signal won't activate the nanobots that you had pumped into you when you had your covid vaccine won't be able to make you vote Tory at the next election.

I'm lubing up first thing tomorrow in preparation........

A"

OMFG

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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago

East London

I'm quite looking forward to lots of little Greek men coming out of my phone.

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By *otSoPoshWoman
over a year ago

In a ball gown because that's how we roll in N. Devon


"Turn the notifications off it’s a Trojan horse

If it was a "trajan horse" the damage would have been done when it was installed, it wouldn't need to receive a signal to be activated.

Realistically, if people are genuinely worried about being tracked then you get rid of your phone completely, and everything else that connects to the Internet.

I've heard if you shove your phone up your arse the alert won't reach it and the 5G signal won't activate the nanobots that you had pumped into you when you had your covid vaccine won't be able to make you vote Tory at the next election.

I'm lubing up first thing tomorrow in preparation........

A"

Video or it didn't happen

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By *ou only live onceMan
over a year ago

London


"Turn the notifications off it’s a Trojan horse

If it was a "trajan horse" the damage would have been done when it was installed, it wouldn't need to receive a signal to be activated.

Realistically, if people are genuinely worried about being tracked then you get rid of your phone completely, and everything else that connects to the Internet.

I've heard if you shove your phone up your arse the alert won't reach it and the 5G signal won't activate the nanobots that you had pumped into you when you had your covid vaccine won't be able to make you vote Tory at the next election.

I'm lubing up first thing tomorrow in preparation........

A"

Don't fall for it, A. My ex-wife's 2nd cousin-by-marriage is a nurse, and she heard that this is a double bluff, with the government using misinformation through the bloody MSM to make people do this and become national alarm carriers...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm making tin foil hats. I can do most designs. Mine is steam punk style.

Who wants one?

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"I'm making tin foil hats. I can do most designs. Mine is steam punk style.

Who wants one? "

Will it go with my panties mask I made to own the libs?

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By *redBlogs1965Man
over a year ago

LUTON

It will just be nice to get a message from someone.

??

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

These kind of threads piss me laughing. As much as I know the alert is going to go off I will still jump because I've forgotten about it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"These kind of threads piss me laughing. As much as I know the alert is going to go off I will still jump because I've forgotten about it"
I find it to be hilarious

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Anyone got a faraday cage ? No!

Wrap it in time foil then

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It will just be nice to get a message from someone.

??"

cleaver government

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It will just be nice to get a message from someone.

??cleaver government "

Clever government

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By *opinovMan
over a year ago

Point Nemo, Cumbria


"It will just be nice to get a message from someone.

??cleaver government

Clever government "

I think your prior unedited comment is more accurate.

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By *avinaTVTV/TS
over a year ago

Transsexual Transylvania

I've got my peril-sensitive sunglasses, so I'll be fine.

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By *opinovMan
over a year ago

Point Nemo, Cumbria


"I've got my peril-sensitive sunglasses, so I'll be fine. "

I have my towel, so likewise.

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By *adystephanieTV/TS
over a year ago

glos

So WTF by the time you get the message you will be toas.....semper Fi

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By *opinovMan
over a year ago

Point Nemo, Cumbria


"So WTF by the time you get the message you will be toas.....semper Fi"

To be fair, there should be just about enough time to boil an egg.

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By *ryan... OP   Man
over a year ago

1950's Original


"From tomorrow will be swapping my smart phone for my beloved Old Nokia 6150 "

they'll still find you. ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

2:59pm remove SIM card 3:01 reinsert SIM card or you could just be normal and ignore the phone anyways, it’s Sunday you should be eating your meat about that time (steady on)

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By *ryan... OP   Man
over a year ago

1950's Original

The bestest time Vladimir Putin to drop the big bomb on the UK is 3pm today..

As everyone will ignore the warning of nuclear.. erm sorry.. flooding alert

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That's so nice of him to warn everyone before hand....

There's not gonna be any nuclear strikes, Putin is a nutcase but not stupid.

If his aim is to make Russia an inhospitable wasteland for the next 10 generations then he will launch.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

??????? thanks

Don’t need to punish people for their leader decisions..

Mrs

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe


"The bestest time Vladimir Putin to drop the big bomb on the UK is 3pm today..

As everyone will ignore the warning of nuclear.. erm sorry.. flooding alert

"

To be honest, warnings of incoming nuclear attacks are pointless. There's nowhere for people to go anyway, if it ever happened no amount of warnings would help... unless it's enough time to leave the country.

Cal

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan
over a year ago

Kent

Feel a bit sorry for all those inmates in HM prisons finding their bumholes blaring out alert klaxons

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"Feel a bit sorry for all those inmates in HM prisons finding their bumholes blaring out alert klaxons"

*Sniggers*

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By *ezebel100Woman
over a year ago

Birmingham


"be a nuclear strike alright when a partners secret meet mobile suddenly goes off."

Lmao

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By *ryan... OP   Man
over a year ago

1950's Original

It seems many got the nuclear alert early at 2:59pm,while many"3"mobile customers didn't get anything...

Reminds me of track and trace...

Or..could it be all 3network customers are Russian spies..you couldn't make it up...or could you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes, coincidence. Not much point spending millions on an alert system warning people of a nuclear holocaust. Not much you can do about it if it happens. Id rather not now

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It seems many got the nuclear alert early at 2:59pm,while many"3"mobile customers didn't get anything...

Reminds me of track and trace...

Or..could it be all 3network customers are Russian spies..you couldn't make it up...or could you "

We didn’t get the alert and we are all 3 so we are dead in an emergency lol

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

I am all for alerts but it going off when I am having an old man snooze to then find out spurs are 5 down is particularly fabulous!!

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By *nliveneTV/TS
over a year ago

Selby

How much it will cost to the governor this msg alert system hope it will be cheaper than the convid19 alert app tending in acount that we will end up paying this alert msg

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