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"of medications, long lists of scary side effects some even death. Do you read through them and worry or don't even bother reading them and just take the meds? They have to be safe as the GP gave them to you right? Have a lovely day all. " Nope. I pissed myself laughing during covid when anti vaxxers started sharing a long list of side effects including death, alongside photos of covid vaccines.....only for someone to then point out that the list had been taken from the paperwork that accompanies paracetamol. Any drug has potential side effects. Anyone can be allergic to a constituent of a medicine. To think otherwise is naive, but the odds on that person being you are generally smaller than being hit by a lose bull, struck by lightening or being crushed by a falling grand piano. A | |||
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"of medications, long lists of scary side effects some even death. Do you read through them and worry or don't even bother reading them and just take the meds? They have to be safe as the GP gave them to you right? Have a lovely day all. " They don't have to be safe at all, they just have to pass a risk/reward assessment. If the reward is relatively minor then serious side effects are going to be statistically highly unlikely. If the reward is significant (as for example with some cancer drugs) then far higher risks can be tolerated. If paracetamol eased your headache but had a high probability of making you vomit and your hair fall out you wouldn't take it. On the other hand, chemo drugs that are known to have certain unpleasant side effects are routinely administered because not doing so would result in death. Worth bearing in mind whet you read this side effects. If you're taking the drugs for something relatively minor the really bad side effects are almost certainly vanishingly rare. | |||
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"of medications, long lists of scary side effects some even death. Do you read through them and worry or don't even bother reading them and just take the meds? They have to be safe as the GP gave them to you right? Have a lovely day all. " I take them into account, yes. But am usually in a position where I need to at least try the medication. Fairly recently, I stopped taking all the painkillers I'd been prescribed for my chronic pain because of the side effects. I just take Pregabalin now to try and alleviate a bit of my nerve pain, but I can't take a high dose. I have been advised to try duloxetine or amitriptyline but I don't want the side effects, especially not in concert with the Pregabalin. I also take care with my thyroid meds not to take my iron tablets within 6hrs etc. | |||
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"You have to take a deliberately large amount of any medication to start triggering the side effects mentioned. The only real scenario where it doesn't take much to trigger a side effect from a particular medication is if you are allergic to it in the first place. But general pop-a-pill-when-sick kind of thing? Nah, no worries at all. " This is incorrect. I get side effects from a single 30mg codeine tablet, for example. I am allergic to ibuprofen and a regular 400mg dose will bring me out in hives (a potential side effect). Side effects can occur at any dose. | |||
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"Most meds list the same side effects but just in a different order" Yeah, they just a random generator to list them..... | |||
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"of medications, long lists of scary side effects some even death. Do you read through them and worry or don't even bother reading them and just take the meds? They have to be safe as the GP gave them to you right? Have a lovely day all. I take them into account, yes. But am usually in a position where I need to at least try the medication. Fairly recently, I stopped taking all the painkillers I'd been prescribed for my chronic pain because of the side effects. I just take Pregabalin now to try and alleviate a bit of my nerve pain, but I can't take a high dose. I have been advised to try duloxetine or amitriptyline but I don't want the side effects, especially not in concert with the Pregabalin. I also take care with my thyroid meds not to take my iron tablets within 6hrs etc. " That's what I'm doing at the moment. I took 200 Ibuprofen a couple of nights ago though as my foot pain was keeping me awake. I need to give my stomach a break. | |||
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"Most meds list the same side effects but just in a different order" They really don't. | |||
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"Any medicine is a risk vs benefits trade-off. Medicines are drugs after all, and few are free of side-effects. The trick is to be sure you need them in the first place, and then optimise the dose to the absolute minimum for efficacy." Sometimes you have to reduce the dose below that for full therapeutic purposes, due to side effects. I get some benefit from Pregabalin, but cannot increase the dose because otherwise my liver function goes bonkers. | |||
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"You have to take a deliberately large amount of any medication to start triggering the side effects mentioned. The only real scenario where it doesn't take much to trigger a side effect from a particular medication is if you are allergic to it in the first place. But general pop-a-pill-when-sick kind of thing? Nah, no worries at all. This is incorrect. I get side effects from a single 30mg codeine tablet, for example. I am allergic to ibuprofen and a regular 400mg dose will bring me out in hives (a potential side effect). Side effects can occur at any dose. " Yeah that's because you're already allergic to that specific drug. I'm saying in general medication side effects don't come out for no good reason unless you either are already predisposed to be allergic towards them, or you take a crap ton of them enough to overdose on. | |||
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"You have to take a deliberately large amount of any medication to start triggering the side effects mentioned. The only real scenario where it doesn't take much to trigger a side effect from a particular medication is if you are allergic to it in the first place. But general pop-a-pill-when-sick kind of thing? Nah, no worries at all. This is incorrect. I get side effects from a single 30mg codeine tablet, for example. I am allergic to ibuprofen and a regular 400mg dose will bring me out in hives (a potential side effect). Side effects can occur at any dose. Yeah that's because you're already allergic to that specific drug. I'm saying in general medication side effects don't come out for no good reason unless you either are already predisposed to be allergic towards them, or you take a crap ton of them enough to overdose on. " No, the side effects from codeine, for example, are nothing to do with allergy, but occur at normal therapeutic dosages. For example, constipation. You don't need to be taking a high dose for constipation to occur, it happens to the majority of people taking codeine. Side effects do happen at normal therapeutic doses. Side effects are usually identified during clinical trials, which test therapeutic doses. | |||
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"You have to take a deliberately large amount of any medication to start triggering the side effects mentioned. The only real scenario where it doesn't take much to trigger a side effect from a particular medication is if you are allergic to it in the first place. But general pop-a-pill-when-sick kind of thing? Nah, no worries at all. This is incorrect. I get side effects from a single 30mg codeine tablet, for example. I am allergic to ibuprofen and a regular 400mg dose will bring me out in hives (a potential side effect). Side effects can occur at any dose. Yeah that's because you're already allergic to that specific drug. I'm saying in general medication side effects don't come out for no good reason unless you either are already predisposed to be allergic towards them, or you take a crap ton of them enough to overdose on. No, the side effects from codeine, for example, are nothing to do with allergy, but occur at normal therapeutic dosages. For example, constipation. You don't need to be taking a high dose for constipation to occur, it happens to the majority of people taking codeine. Side effects do happen at normal therapeutic doses. Side effects are usually identified during clinical trials, which test therapeutic doses." Spot on | |||
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"I would rather a long term fix than a quick fix like what doctors prescribe Herbal drinks Vitamin tablets Steam room for our joints Lemon and Ginger tea with a bit of rum for a cold Comedy when you feel down Music to keep the spirits up Walks to clear the mind Those are my kind of medicines Great Post OP XX" Thanks yes very interesting just to see the different points of view, totally respect them all tbh. | |||
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"I would rather a long term fix than a quick fix like what doctors prescribe Herbal drinks Vitamin tablets Steam room for our joints Lemon and Ginger tea with a bit of rum for a cold Comedy when you feel down Music to keep the spirits up Walks to clear the mind Those are my kind of medicines Great Post OP XX" If only chronic nerve pain could be alleviated thus. | |||
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"I would rather a long term fix than a quick fix like what doctors prescribe Herbal drinks Vitamin tablets Steam room for our joints Lemon and Ginger tea with a bit of rum for a cold Comedy when you feel down Music to keep the spirits up Walks to clear the mind Those are my kind of medicines Great Post OP XX Thanks yes very interesting just to see the different points of view, totally respect them all tbh. " For sure that's what it's about, respecting everyone's views doesn't have to be criticised because it's ot something we practice. Shouldn't concern us let people get on with it xx | |||
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"I would rather a long term fix than a quick fix like what doctors prescribe Herbal drinks Vitamin tablets Steam room for our joints Lemon and Ginger tea with a bit of rum for a cold Comedy when you feel down Music to keep the spirits up Walks to clear the mind Those are my kind of medicines Great Post OP XX If only chronic nerve pain could be alleviated thus. " I can only speak about myself and I quoted that's my kind of medicines doesn't mean it has to be for everyone or will be | |||
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"I would rather a long term fix than a quick fix like what doctors prescribe Herbal drinks Vitamin tablets Steam room for our joints Lemon and Ginger tea with a bit of rum for a cold Comedy when you feel down Music to keep the spirits up Walks to clear the mind Those are my kind of medicines Great Post OP XX" You do understand victim tablets aren't natural Natural resources for vitamin's comes from understanding the benefits of fruit and vegetables nuts and seeds as well as meat | |||
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"You have to take a deliberately large amount of any medication to start triggering the side effects mentioned. The only real scenario where it doesn't take much to trigger a side effect from a particular medication is if you are allergic to it in the first place. But general pop-a-pill-when-sick kind of thing? Nah, no worries at all. " That's not true. | |||
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"I would rather a long term fix than a quick fix like what doctors prescribe Herbal drinks Vitamin tablets Steam room for our joints Lemon and Ginger tea with a bit of rum for a cold Comedy when you feel down Music to keep the spirits up Walks to clear the mind Those are my kind of medicines Great Post OP XX" I agree that we can all help ourselves by modifying our lifestyles, unfortunately there are also many ailments, conditions or disease that require a medical intervention. I am happy to take that intervention when necessary, this does not detract from the benefits derived from lifestyle choices. It’s not either, or, for me, it’s whatever achieves the required outcome. | |||
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"Most meds list the same side effects but just in a different order" Oh dear ! | |||
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"You have to take a deliberately large amount of any medication to start triggering the side effects mentioned. The only real scenario where it doesn't take much to trigger a side effect from a particular medication is if you are allergic to it in the first place. But general pop-a-pill-when-sick kind of thing? Nah, no worries at all. This is incorrect. I get side effects from a single 30mg codeine tablet, for example. I am allergic to ibuprofen and a regular 400mg dose will bring me out in hives (a potential side effect). Side effects can occur at any dose. " Yes. Paracetamol: the amount that does you good, is too close to the amount that does you harm and it explains why you are restricted to buying only two packs at once. | |||
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"I would rather a long term fix than a quick fix like what doctors prescribe Herbal drinks Vitamin tablets Steam room for our joints Lemon and Ginger tea with a bit of rum for a cold Comedy when you feel down Music to keep the spirits up Walks to clear the mind Those are my kind of medicines Great Post OP XX I agree that we can all help ourselves by modifying our lifestyles, unfortunately there are also many ailments, conditions or disease that require a medical intervention. I am happy to take that intervention when necessary, this does not detract from the benefits derived from lifestyle choices. It’s not either, or, for me, it’s whatever achieves the required outcome. " Don't forget to include holidays and massage and cuddles too. | |||
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"of medications, long lists of scary side effects some even death. Do you read through them and worry or don't even bother reading them and just take the meds? They have to be safe as the GP gave them to you right? Have a lovely day all. " Some are bad, I’m on various due to health issues. My heart operation , diabetes. I get a very dry mouth. Sometimes I get little cuts on my tongue because it gets so dry overnight it’s horrible. One medication used to make me sweat like I had a shower. Not the best advert. | |||
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"I would rather a long term fix than a quick fix like what doctors prescribe Herbal drinks Vitamin tablets Steam room for our joints Lemon and Ginger tea with a bit of rum for a cold Comedy when you feel down Music to keep the spirits up Walks to clear the mind Those are my kind of medicines Great Post OP XX If only chronic nerve pain could be alleviated thus. " | |||
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"I would rather a long term fix than a quick fix like what doctors prescribe Herbal drinks Vitamin tablets Steam room for our joints Lemon and Ginger tea with a bit of rum for a cold Comedy when you feel down Music to keep the spirits up Walks to clear the mind Those are my kind of medicines Great Post OP XX I agree that we can all help ourselves by modifying our lifestyles, unfortunately there are also many ailments, conditions or disease that require a medical intervention. I am happy to take that intervention when necessary, this does not detract from the benefits derived from lifestyle choices. It’s not either, or, for me, it’s whatever achieves the required outcome. " | |||
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"I would rather a long term fix than a quick fix like what doctors prescribe Herbal drinks Vitamin tablets Steam room for our joints Lemon and Ginger tea with a bit of rum for a cold Comedy when you feel down Music to keep the spirits up Walks to clear the mind Those are my kind of medicines Great Post OP XX You do understand victim tablets aren't natural Natural resources for vitamin's comes from understanding the benefits of fruit and vegetables nuts and seeds as well as meat " I take those as well, I never knew I had to list my diet regime | |||
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