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"Received a letter from my bank it's shutting in a few days, so going to have to travel if I need to go into the branch now, seems to be the end of high street banks and with it cash machines and finally cash. Do you still visit the bank, use cash machines and cash? Will you be sad or glad to go cashless? Have a lovely weekend all. "There are 15,000+ post offices where you can withdraw and pay in cash. A bigger branch network than any bank ever had. Most banks have apps where you can pay cheques n from home and they'll clear next day. Online banking means no trips to view statements or pay bills - time saving, convenient and a 24 hr service. If I lose my wallet and there's just a plastic card in it I go on my app and instantly block it. If it was full of cash that would be gone forever. People used to have to carry physical coins as currency. Old white £5 notes were the size of table cloths. A £10 note left in jeans after a night out would disintegrate in the washing machine. I have zero issue going cashless. Can't wait to be honest. A | |||
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"Unfortuneatly a cashless society is inevitable and it is a real shame as there are so many things we pay for that we would only pay for with cash." Who says it is inevitable? It's only inevitable if we as the general public don't do anything to stop it happening. If we put up enough opposition to going cashless then it won't happen | |||
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"Unfortuneatly a cashless society is inevitable and it is a real shame as there are so many things we pay for that we would only pay for with cash.Who says it is inevitable? It's only inevitable if we as the general public don't do anything to stop it happening. If we put up enough opposition to going cashless then it won't happen "I'm inclined to agree with that. | |||
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"Unfortuneatly a cashless society is inevitable and it is a real shame as there are so many things we pay for that we would only pay for with cash.Who says it is inevitable? It's only inevitable if we as the general public don't do anything to stop it happening. If we put up enough opposition to going cashless then it won't happen "exactly lets start here lets do it from now on cash only | |||
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"Unfortuneatly a cashless society is inevitable and it is a real shame as there are so many things we pay for that we would only pay for with cash.Who says it is inevitable? It's only inevitable if we as the general public don't do anything to stop it happening. If we put up enough opposition to going cashless then it won't happen
I'm inclined to agree with that. "The weird thing is that there's no country in the world that is cashless, has said that's an objective and it only seems to be the conspiracy theorists that claim it's 'inevitable'. The BofE have stated that even if there was to be a digital currency launched in the UK that cash would always remain. Every time there's a technological advance people say that 'something' will end or become redundant. The internet is a free instant information resource yet libraries are still around. Strange that in a world where mobile phones are in most people's pockets that phone boxes and payphones still exist. Music can be downloaded in seconds yet vinyl, CD's and even cassettes are still being made. As Capt. Mainwaring used to say.....'Don't Panic' 
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I'm sure we will in your lifetime"Over 40 years ago my bank said they were phasing out cheques and although they are far less common now they are still in use. | |||
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"Unfortuneatly a cashless society is inevitable and it is a real shame as there are so many things we pay for that we would only pay for with cash.Who says it is inevitable? It's only inevitable if we as the general public don't do anything to stop it happening. If we put up enough opposition to going cashless then it won't happen
I'm inclined to agree with that.
The weird thing is that there's no country in the world that is cashless, has said that's an objective and it only seems to be the conspiracy theorists that claim it's 'inevitable'.
The BofE have stated that even if there was to be a digital currency launched in the UK that cash would always remain.
Every time there's a technological advance people say that 'something' will end or become redundant. The internet is a free instant information resource yet libraries are still around. Strange that in a world where mobile phones are in most people's pockets that phone boxes and payphones still exist. Music can be downloaded in seconds yet vinyl, CD's and even cassettes are still being made.
As Capt. Mainwaring used to say.....'Don't Panic'
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"Once they shut the bank, that's another cash point gone, the only ones that will be left will be in shops that will charge you for using them, then it's going to be harder to get cash so people will just pay with cards to avoid the extra charges. That's the way they will stop cash being used eventually." 15,000 post offices say otherwise. 
And can people please stop saying that 'the elderly only use cash' because that's bollocks. My mother is pushing 80 and has been using online banking, apps, cards and automated payments for decades.
Making out that anyone elderly is incapable of using technology that's been in place for years is pretty insulting and offensive.
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"Once they shut the bank, that's another cash point gone, the only ones that will be left will be in shops that will charge you for using them, then it's going to be harder to get cash so people will just pay with cards to avoid the extra charges. That's the way they will stop cash being used eventually. 15,000 post offices say otherwise.
And can people please stop saying that 'the elderly only use cash' because that's bollocks. My mother is pushing 80 and has been using online banking, apps, cards and automated payments for decades.
Making out that anyone elderly is incapable of using technology that's been in place for years is pretty insulting and offensive.
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"Once they shut the bank, that's another cash point gone, the only ones that will be left will be in shops that will charge you for using them, then it's going to be harder to get cash so people will just pay with cards to avoid the extra charges. That's the way they will stop cash being used eventually. 15,000 post offices say otherwise.
And can people please stop saying that 'the elderly only use cash' because that's bollocks. My mother is pushing 80 and has been using online banking, apps, cards and automated payments for decades.
Making out that anyone elderly is incapable of using technology that's been in place for years is pretty insulting and offensive.
A"Our post office is a crazy place to visit queues out of the door most days and isn't only £100 a time on the bank card withdrawal, quote me if I'm wrong as I haven't been in for a long time. | |||
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"I only use cash for our local takeaway, but then I had to cancel my cards recently and I was absolutely lost until replacements arrived. " I've never used the option but I now have my cards stored on my phone. Google/Samsung/Apple pay are all great ways to have a backup means should you lose your card. 
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"Once they shut the bank, that's another cash point gone, the only ones that will be left will be in shops that will charge you for using them, then it's going to be harder to get cash so people will just pay with cards to avoid the extra charges. That's the way they will stop cash being used eventually. 15,000 post offices say otherwise.
And can people please stop saying that 'the elderly only use cash' because that's bollocks. My mother is pushing 80 and has been using online banking, apps, cards and automated payments for decades.
Making out that anyone elderly is incapable of using technology that's been in place for years is pretty insulting and offensive.
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Our post office is a crazy place to visit queues out of the door most days and isn't only £100 a time on the bank card withdrawal, quote me if I'm wrong as I haven't been in for a long time."Nope. £300. Or higher if your bank card withdrawal limit is greater. As for cashpoints I've never seen one at a supermarket (and there are more of them than banks too, including 24 hr ones) that charge for withdrawals. There are always solutions but some just don't see/want to use them because it suits the agenda to say bank closures are a problem. If the UK population didn't expect free banking branches wouldn't close at the rate they are/have. Go abroad and try to get a free bank account because you'll struggle, trust me.
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"Unfortuneatly a cashless society is inevitable and it is a real shame as there are so many things we pay for that we would only pay for with cash.Who says it is inevitable? It's only inevitable if we as the general public don't do anything to stop it happening. If we put up enough opposition to going cashless then it won't happen exactly lets start here lets do it from now on cash only "I went to a pub last year with a non swinging friend of mine who has similar views to me on this subject. I ordered our drinks and when I produced a £20 note the barman told me they were cashless. I then showed him my debit card and also told him I could pay for the drinks with my phone too. I then told him it was nothing personal towards him but as it seemed to be the pubs policy to restrict my freedom of choice on my method of payment then he could keep the drinks and we left and went to another pub that took cash | |||
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"Once they shut the bank, that's another cash point gone, the only ones that will be left will be in shops that will charge you for using them, then it's going to be harder to get cash so people will just pay with cards to avoid the extra charges. That's the way they will stop cash being used eventually. 15,000 post offices say otherwise.
And can people please stop saying that 'the elderly only use cash' because that's bollocks. My mother is pushing 80 and has been using online banking, apps, cards and automated payments for decades.
Making out that anyone elderly is incapable of using technology that's been in place for years is pretty insulting and offensive.
A"Agreed and my apologies if my comment came across as saying that. No offence intended. My 80 year old dad is very tech savvy, but I don’t think it’s unreasonable to consider people that age and upwards as being less likely to want to embrace change. But I agree, stereotyping is lazy and unhelpful. | |||
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"Unfortuneatly a cashless society is inevitable and it is a real shame as there are so many things we pay for that we would only pay for with cash.Who says it is inevitable? It's only inevitable if we as the general public don't do anything to stop it happening. If we put up enough opposition to going cashless then it won't happen exactly lets start here lets do it from now on cash only I went to a pub last year with a non swinging friend of mine who has similar views to me on this subject. I ordered our drinks and when I produced a £20 note the barman told me they were cashless. I then showed him my debit card and also told him I could pay for the drinks with my phone too. I then told him it was nothing personal towards him but as it seemed to be the pubs policy to restrict my freedom of choice on my method of payment then he could keep the drinks and we left and went to another pub that took cash "Excellent. I have fine something similar on many ocassions. | |||
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"Once they shut the bank, that's another cash point gone, the only ones that will be left will be in shops that will charge you for using them, then it's going to be harder to get cash so people will just pay with cards to avoid the extra charges. That's the way they will stop cash being used eventually. 15,000 post offices say otherwise.
And can people please stop saying that 'the elderly only use cash' because that's bollocks. My mother is pushing 80 and has been using online banking, apps, cards and automated payments for decades.
Making out that anyone elderly is incapable of using technology that's been in place for years is pretty insulting and offensive.
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Agreed and my apologies if my comment came across as saying that. No offence intended.
My 80 year old dad is very tech savvy, but I don’t think it’s unreasonable to consider people that age and upwards as being less likely to want to embrace change.
But I agree, stereotyping is lazy and unhelpful."I do some work with the elderly and I think people... overestimate how old they are? I don't mean, like, you think they're 120. I mean, a good chunk of them used computers within their working lives. | |||
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"Once they shut the bank, that's another cash point gone, the only ones that will be left will be in shops that will charge you for using them, then it's going to be harder to get cash so people will just pay with cards to avoid the extra charges. That's the way they will stop cash being used eventually. 15,000 post offices say otherwise.
And can people please stop saying that 'the elderly only use cash' because that's bollocks. My mother is pushing 80 and has been using online banking, apps, cards and automated payments for decades.
Making out that anyone elderly is incapable of using technology that's been in place for years is pretty insulting and offensive.
A"I am pretty sure nobody did that. My grandmother would love technology if still alive as liked anything new like that. The point is that there are lots and lots of people, yes elderly too, who don't want to use anything other than cash. Some elderly ones I know only have building society accounts and still use their book to get their cash out every week. Who am I that should say they should adapt just because I am card happy? I male every effort to use both, and certainly would not hesitate to walk out of anywhere that blatantly refuse cash and discriminate against people in that redpect | |||
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 . He's literally a dying breed because most younger people know how to use the banking tech, those of my generation were in on it from the start (contrary to the belief of most in their 20s ).
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"Unfortuneatly a cashless society is inevitable and it is a real shame as there are so many things we pay for that we would only pay for with cash.Who says it is inevitable? It's only inevitable if we as the general public don't do anything to stop it happening. If we put up enough opposition to going cashless then it won't happen exactly lets start here lets do it from now on cash only I went to a pub last year with a non swinging friend of mine who has similar views to me on this subject. I ordered our drinks and when I produced a £20 note the barman told me they were cashless. I then showed him my debit card and also told him I could pay for the drinks with my phone too. I then told him it was nothing personal towards him but as it seemed to be the pubs policy to restrict my freedom of choice on my method of payment then he could keep the drinks and we left and went to another pub that took cash "exactly i left two establishments only yesterday that said they were cashless the more we do it the less likely they will be to introduce it | |||
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"Sad as I work as tradesman and on a Saturday I might do a job that the customer pays cash.. ...which I obviously put through the books and pay tax and N.I on ......(insert moving eyes side to side ) " lol me to | |||
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"We use cash as much as we can as it costs businesses to have cashless systems so only the banks benefit J x" I use automated payments and card payments because it would cost me double to accept cash, given that business bank accounts charge more to deposit cash than they do automated payments. It's been that way for years. Plus I don't have to worry about insurance cover for cash handling, will never lose a days takings because I've dropped them/has them nicked and I don't have to worry about carrying change in case people don't have the right money. There isn't a single business benefit to taking cash. Unless of course I wanted to fiddle my tax return........
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"When fully cashless and they can then control what and where you spend your money, I wonder if people will still think its a good idea. Foot note EU have now passed a law that if you do any transactions over a €1000 in cash without informing the state you can be imprisoned, it's the start. " Please give us a link to that new EU law. Because it doesn't exist. And who is 'they' that will cotrol what you spend and where? A | |||
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"When fully cashless and they can then control what and where you spend your money, I wonder if people will still think its a good idea. Foot note EU have now passed a law that if you do any transactions over a €1000 in cash without informing the state you can be imprisoned, it's the start. Please give us a link to that new EU law. Because it doesn't exist. And who is 'they' that will cotrol what you spend and where? A" Ursula Von Der Leyen said it was in the final stages in the eu parliament, to stop crime is the excuse they are using..you know of the greater good | |||
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"When fully cashless and they can then control what and where you spend your money, I wonder if people will still think its a good idea. Foot note EU have now passed a law that if you do any transactions over a €1000 in cash without informing the state you can be imprisoned, it's the start. Please give us a link to that new EU law. Because it doesn't exist. And who is 'they' that will cotrol what you spend and where? A" EU parliament tries to manage money laundering. People make shit up that sounds scary. People masturbate furiously. | |||
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"When fully cashless and they can then control what and where you spend your money, I wonder if people will still think its a good idea. Foot note EU have now passed a law that if you do any transactions over a €1000 in cash without informing the state you can be imprisoned, it's the start. Please give us a link to that new EU law. Because it doesn't exist. And who is 'they' that will cotrol what you spend and where? AUrsula Von Der Leyen said it was in the final stages in the eu parliament, to stop crime is the excuse they are using..you know of the greater good " Try 10,000 euros. Not 1,000. How often do you need to spend £10,000? And in the UK banks have been required to ask for details on large cash transactions for decades. It's nothing new. Everything in the world isn't a conspiracy!
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"When fully cashless and they can then control what and where you spend your money, I wonder if people will still think its a good idea. Foot note EU have now passed a law that if you do any transactions over a €1000 in cash without informing the state you can be imprisoned, it's the start. Please give us a link to that new EU law. Because it doesn't exist. And who is 'they' that will cotrol what you spend and where? AUrsula Von Der Leyen said it was in the final stages in the eu parliament, to stop crime is the excuse they are using..you know of the greater good Try 10,000 euros. Not 1,000. How often do you need to spend £10,000? And in the UK banks have been required to ask for details on large cash transactions for decades. It's nothing new. Everything in the world isn't a conspiracy!
A"But it's a thousand in crypto therefore... Umm umm... Persecution! | |||
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"When fully cashless and they can then control what and where you spend your money, I wonder if people will still think its a good idea. Foot note EU have now passed a law that if you do any transactions over a €1000 in cash without informing the state you can be imprisoned, it's the start. Please give us a link to that new EU law. Because it doesn't exist. And who is 'they' that will cotrol what you spend and where? AUrsula Von Der Leyen said it was in the final stages in the eu parliament, to stop crime is the excuse they are using..you know of the greater good Try 10,000 euros. Not 1,000. How often do you need to spend £10,000? And in the UK banks have been required to ask for details on large cash transactions for decades. It's nothing new. Everything in the world isn't a conspiracy!
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"When fully cashless and they can then control what and where you spend your money, I wonder if people will still think its a good idea. Foot note EU have now passed a law that if you do any transactions over a €1000 in cash without informing the state you can be imprisoned, it's the start. " I blame 5G | |||
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"When fully cashless and they can then control what and where you spend your money, I wonder if people will still think its a good idea. Foot note EU have now passed a law that if you do any transactions over a €1000 in cash without informing the state you can be imprisoned, it's the start. Please give us a link to that new EU law. Because it doesn't exist. And who is 'they' that will cotrol what you spend and where? AUrsula Von Der Leyen said it was in the final stages in the eu parliament, to stop crime is the excuse they are using..you know of the greater good Try 10,000 euros. Not 1,000. How often do you need to spend £10,000? And in the UK banks have been required to ask for details on large cash transactions for decades. It's nothing new. Everything in the world isn't a conspiracy!
ASpain have already lowered their limits to €1000 so the rest will probably follow "Hang on. You said it was already n EU law? So are you now saying it isn't? Spain make their own rules. France are doing similar. Kind of busts the myth sold during brexit that the whole of Europe are under EU control when individual nations make their own rules, eh.......
Oh. And there's been a similar rule in place in the UK since 2012 and it's still in place after leaving the EU. It's all to do with preventing money laundering. Nothing sinister at all.
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"What happens when Internet breaks down,money never goes down" It comes back online soon enough and your money is still there. What happens when you lose a wallet full of cash? Or that box full of notes under the mattress gets burgled or your house burns down? Large ammounts of cash aren't covered by home insurance but if your bank goes belly up then anything up to £85k (per person, per institution) is protected and you won't lose a penny. Cash gets lost, burnt, nicked (often violently)........it's not the safe thing many think it is. A | |||
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"What happens when Internet breaks down,money never goes down" It's a nice thought but unless you get paid from your employer in cash, then you are still tied to the electronic banking system. In reality it is VERY rare that "the Internet" goes down and with more and more things relying on network access reliability will only continue to get stronger. I believe that cash is VERY important, but there is no sign of it disappearing any time soon. I only know of a small number of places (Bridge tolls for example) where they only accept card, but there are LOADS more places that only take cash. Also, digital cash and crypto are much more prolific in criminal activities than cash now... many small "recreation pharmaceutical" suppliers are dealing completely with anonymous digital payments | |||
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"Once they shut the bank, that's another cash point gone, the only ones that will be left will be in shops that will charge you for using them, then it's going to be harder to get cash so people will just pay with cards to avoid the extra charges. That's the way they will stop cash being used eventually. 15,000 post offices say otherwise.
And can people please stop saying that 'the elderly only use cash' because that's bollocks. My mother is pushing 80 and has been using online banking, apps, cards and automated payments for decades.
Making out that anyone elderly is incapable of using technology that's been in place for years is pretty insulting and offensive.
A"I know a fair few old relatives who have never used a pc or any associated device, not even a mobile phone. They go to the post office or bank and withdraw cash and use it. To say that that all old people know how to be online is just as bad. | |||
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"Once they shut the bank, that's another cash point gone, the only ones that will be left will be in shops that will charge you for using them, then it's going to be harder to get cash so people will just pay with cards to avoid the extra charges. That's the way they will stop cash being used eventually. 15,000 post offices say otherwise.
And can people please stop saying that 'the elderly only use cash' because that's bollocks. My mother is pushing 80 and has been using online banking, apps, cards and automated payments for decades.
Making out that anyone elderly is incapable of using technology that's been in place for years is pretty insulting and offensive.
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Agreed and my apologies if my comment came across as saying that. No offence intended.
My 80 year old dad is very tech savvy, but I don’t think it’s unreasonable to consider people that age and upwards as being less likely to want to embrace change.
But I agree, stereotyping is lazy and unhelpful.
I do some work with the elderly and I think people... overestimate how old they are? I don't mean, like, you think they're 120. I mean, a good chunk of them used computers within their working lives."And many didn’t and still don’t. | |||
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"CBDC is what you should be more worried about. " Why? Here's the BofE statement on a proposed 'digital pound' and you'll note they state cash will remain as long as people want it. 
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"I wont be going cashless as I can't see it happening in my lifetime." Me too, but I've got at least twenty years head start over you! | |||
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Over 40 years ago my bank said they were phasing out cheques and although they are far less common now they are still in use. "What will become of those time honoured publicity pictures of lottery and pools winners or charity spokespersons being presented with a giant cheque? | |||
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Over 40 years ago my bank said they were phasing out cheques and although they are far less common now they are still in use.
What will become of those time honoured publicity pictures of lottery and pools winners or charity spokespersons being presented with a giant cheque?"...and what will charity collectors be able to rattle in their collection tins? | |||
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"There are places around the world that are cashless and have been for a long time, with out any problems. There is only one way to stop it happening and a few people talking about it on a swingers site won’t stop it happening." you've got to start somewhere and this is as good a place as any | |||
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"When fully cashless and they can then control what and where you spend your money, I wonder if people will still think its a good idea. Foot note EU have now passed a law that if you do any transactions over a €1000 in cash without informing the state you can be imprisoned, it's the start. Please give us a link to that new EU law. Because it doesn't exist. And who is 'they' that will cotrol what you spend and where? AUrsula Von Der Leyen said it was in the final stages in the eu parliament, to stop crime is the excuse they are using..you know of the greater good " If cash is going that soon, why would they bother making such laws, or is it to stop a run on cash when people realise that it is on the way out? | |||
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" ...and what will charity collectors be able to rattle in their collection tins? They will go contactless too.." A crafty plot to stop people saying "Sorry, I've got no cash on me", as they move swiftly by! | |||
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" ...and what will charity collectors be able to rattle in their collection tins? They will go contactless too.. A crafty plot to stop people saying "Sorry, I've got no cash on me", as they move swiftly by!" If I get approached by someone for a donation I don’t need to make an excuse not to donate, if I don’t want to I just say ‘no thank you’. I have a couple of charities I donate to regular and seldom donate to random approaches. | |||
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"We will have no choice soon.this sounds a bit far fetched but give it 12 months before you haul me over the coals if im wrong. The banks will all go bankrupt and there will be mass panic at first which will be calmed by an alert to your phone with the relevant information which is being test planned this sunday at 3pm. Already theres government guarantees in place to reimburse any customer that falls victim of a collapsed bank up to a certain amount so up to the government limit your money is safe. But in order to get the money from the government you will have to use their system of banking which will not involve cash. Banks going bankrupt sounds very doubtful but 5 years ago if i told you that someone would eat a bat and we would all be confined to our homes for months and get paid not to work and queue up for injections so we could go about our daily life you would have hung drawn and quartered me and my comment. Im not a conspiracy theorist nor can i see into the future but its looking more likely " Bookmarking this just for shits and giggles.......
There's no chance of any banks in the UK going bankrupt in the next 12 months.
The government don't protect people's money. The FSCS does and its independent of both the government and the banks.
So there's a major fundamental flaw in your theory.
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"We will have no choice soon.this sounds a bit far fetched but give it 12 months before you haul me over the coals if im wrong. The banks will all go bankrupt and there will be mass panic at first which will be calmed by an alert to your phone with the relevant information which is being test planned this sunday at 3pm. Already theres government guarantees in place to reimburse any customer that falls victim of a collapsed bank up to a certain amount so up to the government limit your money is safe. But in order to get the money from the government you will have to use their system of banking which will not involve cash. Banks going bankrupt sounds very doubtful but 5 years ago if i told you that someone would eat a bat and we would all be confined to our homes for months and get paid not to work and queue up for injections so we could go about our daily life you would have hung drawn and quartered me and my comment. Im not a conspiracy theorist nor can i see into the future but its looking more likely " It rather sounds just like a conspiracy theory. What evidence do you base your idea on? | |||
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"Every one will be going cashless like it or not CBDCs are comming Central Bank Digital Currency its like bitcoin but the banks control the blockchain so they can deicide what you donwith it they can give it an expiry date so if you dont spend it it expires, the can control what you spend it on so be a bad boy or girl no drink or restaurants for you, they can devalue if your poor or give rich peoples more value, they can do what they like with it and every transaction will be logged so they know where and when you spendit, and they will sell it to you as the next best thing the future, progress, easy, eco friendly, life saving, but its control under the hood, lol look it up "CBDC"" Hilarious. But yes, look it up.
https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/the-digital-pound
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"It will be cashless soon and I’m very happy about that! Just tap and go and ya done " A mugger nicks all your cards, you drop your phone down a drain and all during a power cut. But can I still have that £20 you owe me now please??? | |||
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"Every one will be going cashless like it or not CBDCs are comming Central Bank Digital Currency its like bitcoin but the banks control the blockchain so they can deicide what you donwith it they can give it an expiry date so if you dont spend it it expires, the can control what you spend it on so be a bad boy or girl no drink or restaurants for you, they can devalue if your poor or give rich peoples more value, they can do what they like with it and every transaction will be logged so they know where and when you spendit, and they will sell it to you as the next best thing the future, progress, easy, eco friendly, life saving, but its control under the hood, lol look it up "CBDC"" Hilarious | |||
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"Every one will be going cashless like it or not CBDCs are comming Central Bank Digital Currency its like bitcoin but the banks control the blockchain so they can deicide what you donwith it they can give it an expiry date so if you dont spend it it expires, the can control what you spend it on so be a bad boy or girl no drink or restaurants for you, they can devalue if your poor or give rich peoples more value, they can do what they like with it and every transaction will be logged so they know where and when you spendit, and they will sell it to you as the next best thing the future, progress, easy, eco friendly, life saving, but its control under the hood, lol look it up "CBDC" Hilarious" It's not hilarious. China is already doing it. | |||
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" I love the casino, eating out, cocktail bars,. expensive spa visits and shopping, but wouldn't want that showing on my bank statements. Also a friend who works in mortgages told me that when looking into mortgage applications they take a dim view of what appears on bank statements - lots of takeaways, payments to casinos, betting shops etc. " Well, a mortgage is a risk to the lender so it makes perfect sense they would want to assess that risk and look at the applicant's spending. Nothing unusual about that. If said transactions didn't appear electronically for them to review and assess, they're not getting the bigger picture and could potentially make a disastrous decision to lend due to omitted information. It's not for you to decide whether you are good for the loan or not, it's down to the lender taking the risk. | |||
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"Received a letter from my bank it's shutting in a few days, so going to have to travel if I need to go into the branch now, seems to be the end of high street banks and with it cash machines and finally cash. Do you still visit the bank, use cash machines and cash? Will you be sad or glad to go cashless? Have a lovely weekend all. "It's inevitable | |||
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" I love the casino, eating out, cocktail bars,. expensive spa visits and shopping, but wouldn't want that showing on my bank statements. Also a friend who works in mortgages told me that when looking into mortgage applications they take a dim view of what appears on bank statements - lots of takeaways, payments to casinos, betting shops etc. Well, a mortgage is a risk to the lender so it makes perfect sense they would want to assess that risk and look at the applicant's spending. Nothing unusual about that. If said transactions didn't appear electronically for them to review and assess, they're not getting the bigger picture and could potentially make a disastrous decision to lend due to omitted information. It's not for you to decide whether you are good for the loan or not, it's down to the lender taking the risk." Try applying to borrow money where there's no paper trail to show financial outgoings and responsible behaviour.
And as per the point further up. Why is all the new King Charles currency being minted if cashless is imminent.
There's no country in the world going cashless or advocating it. Not us, not the USA, not China.
The closest at present is Finland but that's been natural progression for convenience and its long been a country where cash use has been in decline, just by personal habit rather than government coercion.
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" I love the casino, eating out, cocktail bars,. expensive spa visits and shopping, but wouldn't want that showing on my bank statements. Also a friend who works in mortgages told me that when looking into mortgage applications they take a dim view of what appears on bank statements - lots of takeaways, payments to casinos, betting shops etc. Well, a mortgage is a risk to the lender so it makes perfect sense they would want to assess that risk and look at the applicant's spending. Nothing unusual about that. If said transactions didn't appear electronically for them to review and assess, they're not getting the bigger picture and could potentially make a disastrous decision to lend due to omitted information. It's not for you to decide whether you are good for the loan or not, it's down to the lender taking the risk. Try applying to borrow money where there's no paper trail to show financial outgoings and responsible behaviour.
A"I do leave a trail for those reasons, I just like to decide for myself what is on it. So, all my direct debits, standing orders, food shops, fuel and enough spends show on there so as not to affect my ability to loan money should I ever need to. | |||
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"Sad always had cash in my pocket and a card ... Rather pay for anything under a 100 in cash Who needs 50 cups of coffee on a card statement a month " This too. Even I don't want to see how many visits I make to places, I would be embarrassed if anyone else did  | |||
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" Try applying to borrow money where there's no paper trail to show financial outgoings and responsible behaviour.
And as per the point further up. Why is all the new King Charles currency being minted if cashless is imminent.
There's no country in the world going cashless or advocating it. Not us, not the USA, not China.
The closest at present is Finland but that's been natural progression for convenience and its long been a country where cash use has been in decline, just by personal habit rather than government coercion.
A"Charles currency is obviously a false flag. Societies use less money (or insert conspiracy du jour here) therefore apocalypse doom etc therefore we overcome this by throwing a gigantic tantrum. Contrary evidence is just further evidence of the conspiracy, because reasons. | |||
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" Try applying to borrow money where there's no paper trail to show financial outgoings and responsible behaviour.
And as per the point further up. Why is all the new King Charles currency being minted if cashless is imminent.
There's no country in the world going cashless or advocating it. Not us, not the USA, not China.
The closest at present is Finland but that's been natural progression for convenience and its long been a country where cash use has been in decline, just by personal habit rather than government coercion.
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Charles currency is obviously a false flag.
Societies use less money (or insert conspiracy du jour here) therefore apocalypse doom etc therefore we overcome this by throwing a gigantic tantrum.
Contrary evidence is just further evidence of the conspiracy, because reasons."If the apocalypse ever comes.....sorry....when the apocalypse comes, we'll all be using alternatives for currency anyhow. Potatoes, string, glue and of course condoms, because that's the safest way not to get the latest 5G linked virus whilst you're trying to repopulate the planet and overthrow the lizard overlords. A | |||
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" Try applying to borrow money where there's no paper trail to show financial outgoings and responsible behaviour.
And as per the point further up. Why is all the new King Charles currency being minted if cashless is imminent.
There's no country in the world going cashless or advocating it. Not us, not the USA, not China.
The closest at present is Finland but that's been natural progression for convenience and its long been a country where cash use has been in decline, just by personal habit rather than government coercion.
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Charles currency is obviously a false flag.
Societies use less money (or insert conspiracy du jour here) therefore apocalypse doom etc therefore we overcome this by throwing a gigantic tantrum.
Contrary evidence is just further evidence of the conspiracy, because reasons.
If the apocalypse ever comes.....sorry....when the apocalypse comes, we'll all be using alternatives for currency anyhow.
Potatoes, string, glue and of course condoms, because that's the safest way not to get the latest 5G linked virus whilst you're trying to repopulate the planet and overthrow the lizard overlords.
A"But we can stop the apocalypse by kicking and screaming. Or temporarily put it on hold... Because conspiracy grifters thrive on making their marks believe that we're just on the edge of DOOOOOOM. So kick, scream, tell Mummy she's mean, and keep sending the grifters money. The fate of the world is in your hands | |||
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" Try applying to borrow money where there's no paper trail to show financial outgoings and responsible behaviour.
And as per the point further up. Why is all the new King Charles currency being minted if cashless is imminent.
There's no country in the world going cashless or advocating it. Not us, not the USA, not China.
The closest at present is Finland but that's been natural progression for convenience and its long been a country where cash use has been in decline, just by personal habit rather than government coercion.
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Charles currency is obviously a false flag.
Societies use less money (or insert conspiracy du jour here) therefore apocalypse doom etc therefore we overcome this by throwing a gigantic tantrum.
Contrary evidence is just further evidence of the conspiracy, because reasons.
If the apocalypse ever comes.....sorry....when the apocalypse comes, we'll all be using alternatives for currency anyhow.
Potatoes, string, glue and of course condoms, because that's the safest way not to get the latest 5G linked virus whilst you're trying to repopulate the planet and overthrow the lizard overlords.
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But we can stop the apocalypse by kicking and screaming.
Or temporarily put it on hold... Because conspiracy grifters thrive on making their marks believe that we're just on the edge of DOOOOOOM.
So kick, scream, tell Mummy she's mean, and keep sending the grifters money. The fate of the world is in your hands"Probably just normal everyday people doing the right thing and WARNING everyone Just like our delightful government will do tomorrow at 3pm threw the alert system | |||
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" Try applying to borrow money where there's no paper trail to show financial outgoings and responsible behaviour.
And as per the point further up. Why is all the new King Charles currency being minted if cashless is imminent.
There's no country in the world going cashless or advocating it. Not us, not the USA, not China.
The closest at present is Finland but that's been natural progression for convenience and its long been a country where cash use has been in decline, just by personal habit rather than government coercion.
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Charles currency is obviously a false flag.
Societies use less money (or insert conspiracy du jour here) therefore apocalypse doom etc therefore we overcome this by throwing a gigantic tantrum.
Contrary evidence is just further evidence of the conspiracy, because reasons.
If the apocalypse ever comes.....sorry....when the apocalypse comes, we'll all be using alternatives for currency anyhow.
Potatoes, string, glue and of course condoms, because that's the safest way not to get the latest 5G linked virus whilst you're trying to repopulate the planet and overthrow the lizard overlords.
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But we can stop the apocalypse by kicking and screaming.
Or temporarily put it on hold... Because conspiracy grifters thrive on making their marks believe that we're just on the edge of DOOOOOOM.
So kick, scream, tell Mummy she's mean, and keep sending the grifters money. The fate of the world is in your hands
Probably just normal everyday people doing the right thing and WARNING everyone
Just like our delightful government will do tomorrow at 3pm threw the alert system "I'll play along then. Tell me what you know about 'social credit scoring' and how it will be used in the future. A | |||
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And as per the point further up. Why is all the new King Charles currency being minted if cashless is imminent.
There's no country in the world going cashless or advocating it. Not us, not the USA, not China.
The closest at present is Finland but that's been natural progression for convenience and its long been a country where cash use has been in decline, just by personal habit rather than government coercion.
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Charles currency is obviously a false flag.
Societies use less money (or insert conspiracy du jour here) therefore apocalypse doom etc therefore we overcome this by throwing a gigantic tantrum.
Contrary evidence is just further evidence of the conspiracy, because reasons.
If the apocalypse ever comes.....sorry....when the apocalypse comes, we'll all be using alternatives for currency anyhow.
Potatoes, string, glue and of course condoms, because that's the safest way not to get the latest 5G linked virus whilst you're trying to repopulate the planet and overthrow the lizard overlords.
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But we can stop the apocalypse by kicking and screaming.
Or temporarily put it on hold... Because conspiracy grifters thrive on making their marks believe that we're just on the edge of DOOOOOOM.
So kick, scream, tell Mummy she's mean, and keep sending the grifters money. The fate of the world is in your hands
Probably just normal everyday people doing the right thing and WARNING everyone
Just like our delightful government will do tomorrow at 3pm threw the alert system "Follows the same pattern. Thing happens - people make shit up and say any contrary evidence is proof that they're right (even when the people making shit up said the opposite yesterday). Therefore DOOM! When doom doesn't happen, it's because the bold noble toddler tantrum and sending grifters money saved the world. But look! Another doom! Rinse and repeat forever. | |||
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"With cashless transactions someone takes a cut, usually the big banks making huge profits. I've never had cash taken, but I've had money taken from my account twice. Cyber fraud is a huge issue, so big that the government no longer include it in crime statistics. It makes the figures look so bad. I don't want someone knowing all my transactions." Did you mean the UK government? I mean....they publish those stats every year, but hey.
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"I drew out £300 last summer on a Scottish Island, June I think it was. I still have £250 of it in my wallet. So in about 9 months in the UK, I have only physically spent £50 in cash. I travel to Europe most weeks for a few days working. In Athens in August I drew out 1000 Euros from two banks. No idea why I did that but seem to recall a potential problem with their payment systems. I still have 200 euros of that left, around 500 of it has been used for small tips in bars/restaurants all over Europe since. I almost hardly ever need any physical cash at all. I was reluctant to use google pay but now I almost exclusively use it to pay for anything and everything. Scary google pay, bought my daughters car using it and it was into 5 figures. Not very often I actually take a wallet with me either when I'm in the UK, maybe £20 cash as emergency and a card just in case I need one. Even broads etc can take cards So for me, cashless won't really affect me, there will never be a zero cashless society, cash/money will always exist, it has to. I do know some people who will only ever pay in cash no matter what, and some don't or won't even have a debit/credit card. Strange how some folk work. "It affects your freedom governments, police forces will be able to track your every move, you'll say in reply to this "if i haven't done anything wrong why should that worry me ' its your fundamental right to have freedom of movement, freedom of purchase just to be free to do what you want and not be watched doing it as soon as cash goes that freedom goes | |||
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"I drew out £300 last summer on a Scottish Island, June I think it was. I still have £250 of it in my wallet. So in about 9 months in the UK, I have only physically spent £50 in cash. I travel to Europe most weeks for a few days working. In Athens in August I drew out 1000 Euros from two banks. No idea why I did that but seem to recall a potential problem with their payment systems. I still have 200 euros of that left, around 500 of it has been used for small tips in bars/restaurants all over Europe since. I almost hardly ever need any physical cash at all. I was reluctant to use google pay but now I almost exclusively use it to pay for anything and everything. Scary google pay, bought my daughters car using it and it was into 5 figures. Not very often I actually take a wallet with me either when I'm in the UK, maybe £20 cash as emergency and a card just in case I need one. Even broads etc can take cards So for me, cashless won't really affect me, there will never be a zero cashless society, cash/money will always exist, it has to. I do know some people who will only ever pay in cash no matter what, and some don't or won't even have a debit/credit card. Strange how some folk work. It affects your freedom governments, police forces will be able to track your every move, you'll say in reply to this "if i haven't done anything wrong why should that worry me ' its your fundamental right to have freedom of movement, freedom of purchase just to be free to do what you want and not be watched doing it as soon as cash goes that freedom goes "The police need a court order to view bank account details. You think they'll have the time to apply for one for everyone? All of what you say is justification for using cash already exists. We have more CCTV than any nation. If you think you're untraceable using cash then .
Unless you go off grid and live without connection to utilities, ditch your mobile, never log on to the internet, quit your job and don't communicate with anyone.....you can be found.
You don't need cash to move or live freely.
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"I drew out £300 last summer on a Scottish Island, June I think it was. I still have £250 of it in my wallet. So in about 9 months in the UK, I have only physically spent £50 in cash. I travel to Europe most weeks for a few days working. In Athens in August I drew out 1000 Euros from two banks. No idea why I did that but seem to recall a potential problem with their payment systems. I still have 200 euros of that left, around 500 of it has been used for small tips in bars/restaurants all over Europe since. I almost hardly ever need any physical cash at all. I was reluctant to use google pay but now I almost exclusively use it to pay for anything and everything. Scary google pay, bought my daughters car using it and it was into 5 figures. Not very often I actually take a wallet with me either when I'm in the UK, maybe £20 cash as emergency and a card just in case I need one. Even broads etc can take cards So for me, cashless won't really affect me, there will never be a zero cashless society, cash/money will always exist, it has to. I do know some people who will only ever pay in cash no matter what, and some don't or won't even have a debit/credit card. Strange how some folk work. It affects your freedom governments, police forces will be able to track your every move, you'll say in reply to this "if i haven't done anything wrong why should that worry me ' its your fundamental right to have freedom of movement, freedom of purchase just to be free to do what you want and not be watched doing it as soon as cash goes that freedom goes
The police need a court order to view bank account details.
You think they'll have the time to apply for one for everyone?
All of what you say is justification for using cash already exists. We have more CCTV than any nation. If you think you're untraceable using cash then .
Unless you go off grid and live without connection to utilities, ditch your mobile, never log on to the internet, quit your job and don't communicate with anyone.....you can be found.
You don't need cash to move or live freely.
A"Yeah, but a simple shiny object to focus on is way easier than trying to deal with complex systemic issues. And way, way easier to whip up a supporter base. "Shiny object! Bill Gates Rothschilds argle bargle! Send me money for (vaguely good concept that no one defines)!" Will it fix anything? Yes and no. It'll make grifters richer. That's the main issue, right? | |||
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"I drew out £300 last summer on a Scottish Island, June I think it was. I still have £250 of it in my wallet. So in about 9 months in the UK, I have only physically spent £50 in cash. I travel to Europe most weeks for a few days working. In Athens in August I drew out 1000 Euros from two banks. No idea why I did that but seem to recall a potential problem with their payment systems. I still have 200 euros of that left, around 500 of it has been used for small tips in bars/restaurants all over Europe since. I almost hardly ever need any physical cash at all. I was reluctant to use google pay but now I almost exclusively use it to pay for anything and everything. Scary google pay, bought my daughters car using it and it was into 5 figures. Not very often I actually take a wallet with me either when I'm in the UK, maybe £20 cash as emergency and a card just in case I need one. Even broads etc can take cards So for me, cashless won't really affect me, there will never be a zero cashless society, cash/money will always exist, it has to. I do know some people who will only ever pay in cash no matter what, and some don't or won't even have a debit/credit card. Strange how some folk work. It affects your freedom governments, police forces will be able to track your every move, you'll say in reply to this "if i haven't done anything wrong why should that worry me ' its your fundamental right to have freedom of movement, freedom of purchase just to be free to do what you want and not be watched doing it as soon as cash goes that freedom goes
The police need a court order to view bank account details.
You think they'll have the time to apply for one for everyone?
All of what you say is justification for using cash already exists. We have more CCTV than any nation. If you think you're untraceable using cash then .
Unless you go off grid and live without connection to utilities, ditch your mobile, never log on to the internet, quit your job and don't communicate with anyone.....you can be found.
You don't need cash to move or live freely.
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Yeah, but a simple shiny object to focus on is way easier than trying to deal with complex systemic issues.
And way, way easier to whip up a supporter base.
"Shiny object! Bill Gates Rothschilds argle bargle! Send me money for (vaguely good concept that no one defines)!"
Will it fix anything? Yes and no.
It'll make grifters richer. That's the main issue, right?"Is it weird that all the grifters will take bitcoin/paypal/applepay etc....and of course the regualr monthly subscriptions to be kept in the loop on the next planned actions of the lizard people?
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"I drew out £300 last summer on a Scottish Island, June I think it was. I still have £250 of it in my wallet. So in about 9 months in the UK, I have only physically spent £50 in cash. I travel to Europe most weeks for a few days working. In Athens in August I drew out 1000 Euros from two banks. No idea why I did that but seem to recall a potential problem with their payment systems. I still have 200 euros of that left, around 500 of it has been used for small tips in bars/restaurants all over Europe since. I almost hardly ever need any physical cash at all. I was reluctant to use google pay but now I almost exclusively use it to pay for anything and everything. Scary google pay, bought my daughters car using it and it was into 5 figures. Not very often I actually take a wallet with me either when I'm in the UK, maybe £20 cash as emergency and a card just in case I need one. Even broads etc can take cards So for me, cashless won't really affect me, there will never be a zero cashless society, cash/money will always exist, it has to. I do know some people who will only ever pay in cash no matter what, and some don't or won't even have a debit/credit card. Strange how some folk work. It affects your freedom governments, police forces will be able to track your every move, you'll say in reply to this "if i haven't done anything wrong why should that worry me ' its your fundamental right to have freedom of movement, freedom of purchase just to be free to do what you want and not be watched doing it as soon as cash goes that freedom goes
The police need a court order to view bank account details.
You think they'll have the time to apply for one for everyone?
All of what you say is justification for using cash already exists. We have more CCTV than any nation. If you think you're untraceable using cash then .
Unless you go off grid and live without connection to utilities, ditch your mobile, never log on to the internet, quit your job and don't communicate with anyone.....you can be found.
You don't need cash to move or live freely.
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Yeah, but a simple shiny object to focus on is way easier than trying to deal with complex systemic issues.
And way, way easier to whip up a supporter base.
"Shiny object! Bill Gates Rothschilds argle bargle! Send me money for (vaguely good concept that no one defines)!"
Will it fix anything? Yes and no.
It'll make grifters richer. That's the main issue, right?
Is it weird that all the grifters will take bitcoin/paypal/applepay etc....and of course the regualr monthly subscriptions to be kept in the loop on the next planned actions of the lizard people?
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"The lizard people accept and respect the grifters (Alex Jones says all the time that the globalists keep him in the loop and want to accept him. He won't comply because - usually performative tantrum about Satan). The grifters are powerful. And yes. They don't accept cash, they take electronic payments. But that's different because reasons | |||
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" Try applying to borrow money where there's no paper trail to show financial outgoings and responsible behaviour.
And as per the point further up. Why is all the new King Charles currency being minted if cashless is imminent.
There's no country in the world going cashless or advocating it. Not us, not the USA, not China.
The closest at present is Finland but that's been natural progression for convenience and its long been a country where cash use has been in decline, just by personal habit rather than government coercion.
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Charles currency is obviously a false flag.
Societies use less money (or insert conspiracy du jour here) therefore apocalypse doom etc therefore we overcome this by throwing a gigantic tantrum.
Contrary evidence is just further evidence of the conspiracy, because reasons.
If the apocalypse ever comes.....sorry....when the apocalypse comes, we'll all be using alternatives for currency anyhow.
Potatoes, string, glue and of course condoms, because that's the safest way not to get the latest 5G linked virus whilst you're trying to repopulate the planet and overthrow the lizard overlords.
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But we can stop the apocalypse by kicking and screaming.
Or temporarily put it on hold... Because conspiracy grifters thrive on making their marks believe that we're just on the edge of DOOOOOOM.
So kick, scream, tell Mummy she's mean, and keep sending the grifters money. The fate of the world is in your hands
Probably just normal everyday people doing the right thing and WARNING everyone
Just like our delightful government will do tomorrow at 3pm threw the alert system
I'll play along then.
Tell me what you know about 'social credit scoring' and how it will be used in the future.
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" Try applying to borrow money where there's no paper trail to show financial outgoings and responsible behaviour.
And as per the point further up. Why is all the new King Charles currency being minted if cashless is imminent.
There's no country in the world going cashless or advocating it. Not us, not the USA, not China.
The closest at present is Finland but that's been natural progression for convenience and its long been a country where cash use has been in decline, just by personal habit rather than government coercion.
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Charles currency is obviously a false flag.
Societies use less money (or insert conspiracy du jour here) therefore apocalypse doom etc therefore we overcome this by throwing a gigantic tantrum.
Contrary evidence is just further evidence of the conspiracy, because reasons.
If the apocalypse ever comes.....sorry....when the apocalypse comes, we'll all be using alternatives for currency anyhow.
Potatoes, string, glue and of course condoms, because that's the safest way not to get the latest 5G linked virus whilst you're trying to repopulate the planet and overthrow the lizard overlords.
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But we can stop the apocalypse by kicking and screaming.
Or temporarily put it on hold... Because conspiracy grifters thrive on making their marks believe that we're just on the edge of DOOOOOOM.
So kick, scream, tell Mummy she's mean, and keep sending the grifters money. The fate of the world is in your hands
Probably just normal everyday people doing the right thing and WARNING everyone
Just like our delightful government will do tomorrow at 3pm threw the alert system
Follows the same pattern.
Thing happens - people make shit up and say any contrary evidence is proof that they're right (even when the people making shit up said the opposite yesterday). Therefore DOOM! When doom doesn't happen, it's because the bold noble toddler tantrum and sending grifters money saved the world. But look! Another doom! Rinse and repeat forever."Yehhh sure | |||
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"I drew out £300 last summer on a Scottish Island, June I think it was. I still have £250 of it in my wallet. So in about 9 months in the UK, I have only physically spent £50 in cash. I travel to Europe most weeks for a few days working. In Athens in August I drew out 1000 Euros from two banks. No idea why I did that but seem to recall a potential problem with their payment systems. I still have 200 euros of that left, around 500 of it has been used for small tips in bars/restaurants all over Europe since. I almost hardly ever need any physical cash at all. I was reluctant to use google pay but now I almost exclusively use it to pay for anything and everything. Scary google pay, bought my daughters car using it and it was into 5 figures. Not very often I actually take a wallet with me either when I'm in the UK, maybe £20 cash as emergency and a card just in case I need one. Even broads etc can take cards So for me, cashless won't really affect me, there will never be a zero cashless society, cash/money will always exist, it has to. I do know some people who will only ever pay in cash no matter what, and some don't or won't even have a debit/credit card. Strange how some folk work. It affects your freedom governments, police forces will be able to track your every move, you'll say in reply to this "if i haven't done anything wrong why should that worry me ' its your fundamental right to have freedom of movement, freedom of purchase just to be free to do what you want and not be watched doing it as soon as cash goes that freedom goes
The police need a court order to view bank account details.
You think they'll have the time to apply for one for everyone?
All of what you say is justification for using cash already exists. We have more CCTV than any nation. If you think you're untraceable using cash then .
Unless you go off grid and live without connection to utilities, ditch your mobile, never log on to the internet, quit your job and don't communicate with anyone.....you can be found.
You don't need cash to move or live freely.
A"Have you not seen the Will Smith film Enemy of the State 25 years ago at least it was made, you don't have to put a name to a phone, you can log onto the internet and not identify yourself and i bow to your expertise in almost everything, cash is freedom, card is traceable | |||
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And as per the point further up. Why is all the new King Charles currency being minted if cashless is imminent.
There's no country in the world going cashless or advocating it. Not us, not the USA, not China.
The closest at present is Finland but that's been natural progression for convenience and its long been a country where cash use has been in decline, just by personal habit rather than government coercion.
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Charles currency is obviously a false flag.
Societies use less money (or insert conspiracy du jour here) therefore apocalypse doom etc therefore we overcome this by throwing a gigantic tantrum.
Contrary evidence is just further evidence of the conspiracy, because reasons.
If the apocalypse ever comes.....sorry....when the apocalypse comes, we'll all be using alternatives for currency anyhow.
Potatoes, string, glue and of course condoms, because that's the safest way not to get the latest 5G linked virus whilst you're trying to repopulate the planet and overthrow the lizard overlords.
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But we can stop the apocalypse by kicking and screaming.
Or temporarily put it on hold... Because conspiracy grifters thrive on making their marks believe that we're just on the edge of DOOOOOOM.
So kick, scream, tell Mummy she's mean, and keep sending the grifters money. The fate of the world is in your hands
Probably just normal everyday people doing the right thing and WARNING everyone
Just like our delightful government will do tomorrow at 3pm threw the alert system
Follows the same pattern.
Thing happens - people make shit up and say any contrary evidence is proof that they're right (even when the people making shit up said the opposite yesterday). Therefore DOOM! When doom doesn't happen, it's because the bold noble toddler tantrum and sending grifters money saved the world. But look! Another doom! Rinse and repeat forever.
Yehhh sure "Barcodes are the mark of the beast and we are in the end times Patriot Act 2 following the clearly Jewish false flag of 9/11. Holding down people and forcing them to be vaccinated as global control following H1N1. Permanent forever lockdown from Covid (which is an evil Fauchian Obama bioweapon but also repeat infections is healthy) Vaccines will make all children autistic by 2025 because mercury no wait we took that out epigenetic damage from previous mercury because epigenetics means whatever we want it to Vaccines - Covid edition - will kill people immediately/in six months/in a year or two/someday there will be DOOM and then you'll see Being upset about school shootings means freedom will be lost forever Etc ad nauseum | |||
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" Try applying to borrow money where there's no paper trail to show financial outgoings and responsible behaviour.
And as per the point further up. Why is all the new King Charles currency being minted if cashless is imminent.
There's no country in the world going cashless or advocating it. Not us, not the USA, not China.
The closest at present is Finland but that's been natural progression for convenience and its long been a country where cash use has been in decline, just by personal habit rather than government coercion.
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Charles currency is obviously a false flag.
Societies use less money (or insert conspiracy du jour here) therefore apocalypse doom etc therefore we overcome this by throwing a gigantic tantrum.
Contrary evidence is just further evidence of the conspiracy, because reasons.
If the apocalypse ever comes.....sorry....when the apocalypse comes, we'll all be using alternatives for currency anyhow.
Potatoes, string, glue and of course condoms, because that's the safest way not to get the latest 5G linked virus whilst you're trying to repopulate the planet and overthrow the lizard overlords.
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But we can stop the apocalypse by kicking and screaming.
Or temporarily put it on hold... Because conspiracy grifters thrive on making their marks believe that we're just on the edge of DOOOOOOM.
So kick, scream, tell Mummy she's mean, and keep sending the grifters money. The fate of the world is in your hands
Probably just normal everyday people doing the right thing and WARNING everyone
Just like our delightful government will do tomorrow at 3pm threw the alert system
I'll play along then.
Tell me what you know about 'social credit scoring' and how it will be used in the future.
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China is the model
"No it isn't. China uses a system that has been classed by some as 'social credit scoring' but this relates purely to high net worth individuals in relation to business activity from a money laundering prevention perspective. You've been sold another lie. "The goal of the social credit system is to make it easier for people and businesses to make fully-informed business decisions. A high social credit score will be an indicator that a party can be trusted in a business context. The system began with a focus on financial creditworthiness, similar to credit scores used in western countries, and moved on to include compliance and legal violations." Is it being expanded to encompass rhe wider community? Yes, probably. But don't forget this is China. Its a nation that has persecuted its citizens for anything not towing the party/state line for decades. It doesn't need a social credit system to do that does it?
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And as per the point further up. Why is all the new King Charles currency being minted if cashless is imminent.
There's no country in the world going cashless or advocating it. Not us, not the USA, not China.
The closest at present is Finland but that's been natural progression for convenience and its long been a country where cash use has been in decline, just by personal habit rather than government coercion.
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Charles currency is obviously a false flag.
Societies use less money (or insert conspiracy du jour here) therefore apocalypse doom etc therefore we overcome this by throwing a gigantic tantrum.
Contrary evidence is just further evidence of the conspiracy, because reasons.
If the apocalypse ever comes.....sorry....when the apocalypse comes, we'll all be using alternatives for currency anyhow.
Potatoes, string, glue and of course condoms, because that's the safest way not to get the latest 5G linked virus whilst you're trying to repopulate the planet and overthrow the lizard overlords.
A
But we can stop the apocalypse by kicking and screaming.
Or temporarily put it on hold... Because conspiracy grifters thrive on making their marks believe that we're just on the edge of DOOOOOOM.
So kick, scream, tell Mummy she's mean, and keep sending the grifters money. The fate of the world is in your hands
Probably just normal everyday people doing the right thing and WARNING everyone
Just like our delightful government will do tomorrow at 3pm threw the alert system
I'll play along then.
Tell me what you know about 'social credit scoring' and how it will be used in the future.
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China is the model
No it isn't.
China uses a system that has been classed by some as 'social credit scoring' but this relates purely to high net worth individuals in relation to business activity from a money laundering prevention perspective.
You've been sold another lie.
"The goal of the social credit system is to make it easier for people and businesses to make fully-informed business decisions. A high social credit score will be an indicator that a party can be trusted in a business context.
The system began with a focus on financial creditworthiness, similar to credit scores used in western countries, and moved on to include compliance and legal violations."
Is it being expanded to encompass rhe wider community? Yes, probably.
But don't forget this is China. Its a nation that has persecuted its citizens for anything not towing the party/state line for decades. It doesn't need a social credit system to do that does it?
A"Another example of my model. Thing happens - grifters make shit up - therefore doom. The fact that there are ecosystems of fan fic related to the making shit up doesn't actually make any of it real
(Also, apparently movies are cosmic truth telling because the universe has laws. Instead of like... Y'know, fiction. And movies and novels with wildly contradictory plots are proof of the same doom because... Pfft. Logic, consistency, and reading are for libtards) | |||
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" ... Barcodes are the mark of the beast and we are in the end times ... Barcodes ork quicklyand efficiently. Very occasionally one won't read and has to be entered manually. On the other hand, I have yet to ever need to use a QR code. They are equally alien to my lifestyle as cash is to some of the whizz kids above! I don't even know how to read a QR code with my phone (old blue and white Nokia - not the one I use to tether this laptop to the internet)" When they were first introduced there was a vocal minority saying they were a sign of the end times. Those who've studied the phenomenon say it has overlap with some Covid scaremongering. People have been obsessed with apocalypse since time immemorial, and some people make a shedload of money off that kind of claptrap. | |||
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"With cashless transactions someone takes a cut, usually the big banks making huge profits. I've never had cash taken, but I've had money taken from my account twice. Cyber fraud is a huge issue, so big that the government no longer include it in crime statistics. It makes the figures look so bad. I don't want someone knowing all my transactions. Did you mean the UK government? I mean....they publish those stats every year, but hey.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/articles/natureoffraudandcomputermisuseinenglandandwales/yearendingmarch2022#fraud-and-computer-misuse-data"Yes they publish it seperate but an MP on question time a few weeks ago saif crime is down. When questioned further he admitted that didn't include fraud. As that means crime is up. They are being selective with the statistics. | |||
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"With cashless transactions someone takes a cut, usually the big banks making huge profits. I've never had cash taken, but I've had money taken from my account twice. Cyber fraud is a huge issue, so big that the government no longer include it in crime statistics. It makes the figures look so bad. I don't want someone knowing all my transactions. Did you mean the UK government? I mean....they publish those stats every year, but hey.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/articles/natureoffraudandcomputermisuseinenglandandwales/yearendingmarch2022#fraud-and-computer-misuse-data
Yes they publish it seperate but an MP on question time a few weeks ago saif crime is down. When questioned further he admitted that didn't include fraud. As that means crime is up.
They are being selective with the statistics."That's just MP's being MP's and skirting questions, bullshitting in interviews and talking bollocks. It doesn't mean the data isn't produced at all. This is just another example of someone saying something happens, being shown it doesn't and then changing their statement because the original one has been evidenced to be unadulterated crap.
Every time someone says something they read online, heard down the pub, saw on a Facey meme or Youtube video, and then doesn't bother to check for accuracy, it contributes to the global dumbing down of knowledge and education.
That's exactly how scare stories and conspiracy theories grow, spread and become urban myths.
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"With cashless transactions someone takes a cut, usually the big banks making huge profits. I've never had cash taken, but I've had money taken from my account twice. Cyber fraud is a huge issue, so big that the government no longer include it in crime statistics. It makes the figures look so bad. I don't want someone knowing all my transactions. Did you mean the UK government? I mean....they publish those stats every year, but hey.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/articles/natureoffraudandcomputermisuseinenglandandwales/yearendingmarch2022#fraud-and-computer-misuse-data
Yes they publish it seperate but an MP on question time a few weeks ago saif crime is down. When questioned further he admitted that didn't include fraud. As that means crime is up.
They are being selective with the statistics."A politician is evasive? No. Say it ain't so. That's very unusual and obviously this implies something broader about everything | |||
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"With cashless transactions someone takes a cut, usually the big banks making huge profits. I've never had cash taken, but I've had money taken from my account twice. Cyber fraud is a huge issue, so big that the government no longer include it in crime statistics. It makes the figures look so bad. I don't want someone knowing all my transactions. Did you mean the UK government? I mean....they publish those stats every year, but hey.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/articles/natureoffraudandcomputermisuseinenglandandwales/yearendingmarch2022#fraud-and-computer-misuse-data
Yes they publish it seperate but an MP on question time a few weeks ago saif crime is down. When questioned further he admitted that didn't include fraud. As that means crime is up.
They are being selective with the statistics.
That's just MP's being MP's and skirting questions, bullshitting in interviews and talking bollocks.
It doesn't mean the data isn't produced at all.
This is just another example of someone saying something happens, being shown it doesn't and then changing their statement because the original one has been evidenced to be unadulterated crap.
Every time someone says something they read online, heard down the pub, saw on a Facey meme or Youtube video, and then doesn't bother to check for accuracy, it contributes to the global dumbing down of knowledge and education.
That's exactly how scare stories and conspiracy theories grow, spread and become urban myths.
A"And another example of someone not reading what someone else said. I didn't say they don't publish it. They treat it as a seperate issue when quoting crime figures, that's all. | |||
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" Try applying to borrow money where there's no paper trail to show financial outgoings and responsible behaviour.
And as per the point further up. Why is all the new King Charles currency being minted if cashless is imminent.
There's no country in the world going cashless or advocating it. Not us, not the USA, not China.
The closest at present is Finland but that's been natural progression for convenience and its long been a country where cash use has been in decline, just by personal habit rather than government coercion.
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Charles currency is obviously a false flag.
Societies use less money (or insert conspiracy du jour here) therefore apocalypse doom etc therefore we overcome this by throwing a gigantic tantrum.
Contrary evidence is just further evidence of the conspiracy, because reasons.
If the apocalypse ever comes.....sorry....when the apocalypse comes, we'll all be using alternatives for currency anyhow.
Potatoes, string, glue and of course condoms, because that's the safest way not to get the latest 5G linked virus whilst you're trying to repopulate the planet and overthrow the lizard overlords.
A
But we can stop the apocalypse by kicking and screaming.
Or temporarily put it on hold... Because conspiracy grifters thrive on making their marks believe that we're just on the edge of DOOOOOOM.
So kick, scream, tell Mummy she's mean, and keep sending the grifters money. The fate of the world is in your hands
Probably just normal everyday people doing the right thing and WARNING everyone
Just like our delightful government will do tomorrow at 3pm threw the alert system
Follows the same pattern.
Thing happens - people make shit up and say any contrary evidence is proof that they're right (even when the people making shit up said the opposite yesterday). Therefore DOOM! When doom doesn't happen, it's because the bold noble toddler tantrum and sending grifters money saved the world. But look! Another doom! Rinse and repeat forever.
Yehhh sure
Barcodes are the mark of the beast and we are in the end times
Patriot Act 2 following the clearly Jewish false flag of 9/11.
Holding down people and forcing them to be vaccinated as global control following H1N1.
Permanent forever lockdown from Covid (which is an evil Fauchian Obama bioweapon but also repeat infections is healthy)
Vaccines will make all children autistic by 2025 because mercury no wait we took that out epigenetic damage from previous mercury because epigenetics means whatever we want it to
Vaccines - Covid edition - will kill people immediately/in six months/in a year or two/someday there will be DOOM and then you'll see
Being upset about school shootings means freedom will be lost forever
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"With cashless transactions someone takes a cut, usually the big banks making huge profits. I've never had cash taken, but I've had money taken from my account twice. Cyber fraud is a huge issue, so big that the government no longer include it in crime statistics. It makes the figures look so bad. I don't want someone knowing all my transactions. Did you mean the UK government? I mean....they publish those stats every year, but hey.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/articles/natureoffraudandcomputermisuseinenglandandwales/yearendingmarch2022#fraud-and-computer-misuse-data
Yes they publish it seperate but an MP on question time a few weeks ago saif crime is down. When questioned further he admitted that didn't include fraud. As that means crime is up.
They are being selective with the statistics.
That's just MP's being MP's and skirting questions, bullshitting in interviews and talking bollocks.
It doesn't mean the data isn't produced at all.
This is just another example of someone saying something happens, being shown it doesn't and then changing their statement because the original one has been evidenced to be unadulterated crap.
Every time someone says something they read online, heard down the pub, saw on a Facey meme or Youtube video, and then doesn't bother to check for accuracy, it contributes to the global dumbing down of knowledge and education.
That's exactly how scare stories and conspiracy theories grow, spread and become urban myths.
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And another example of someone not reading what someone else said.
I didn't say they don't publish it.
They treat it as a seperate issue when quoting crime figures, that's all.
"Soory but no. Some MP's including the then PM as this happened back in early 2022, deciding to make a statement where they separated the stats. That doesn't mean it's treated as a separate issue . The data is there. It's published by the government via the ONS. The fact a few people argued that the data should be split because it's suited their narrative during a press briefing is irrelevant. Their views are personal, not government policy. The data isn't actually split and can be found via the link I posted. A | |||
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"Here's an idea. We all know how people stash gold as their ultimate security against currency fluctuation/failure. Well, here is my Viz style tip. Every one should stash £20 notes in advance of the system going cashless and then use them for transactions with like minded people. Their value might even rocket when they become scarce!" I heard that some people in Greece did that with the drachma. I also heard that it didn't go well. | |||
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"Sad also you will be tracked 100% of the time. Which is not tyd end of the world but at some point it's nice to have some secrets." If you carry a smart phone, this already happens | |||
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"I can't see how using these little bits of copper and silver for trading will ever catch on, I reckon it's just to keep track of us all. I find it much more convenient to take a jug full of goats milk down the road to widow twankeys and swap it for a goose egg. And with a bit of bartering she sometimes throws in a blow job or a shag (to be honest, she seldom lets me get away without, I'm starting to think she doesn't really need the goats milk, it's just an excuse to get me over there...). This bloody "money" stuff won't ever catch on... "How will they ever cope when you need smaller denominations? (Historical answer: chop up coins into smaller bits. In some places there were unfree people who were charged with weighing coins to make sure people didn't piss off with the metal and short change people) | |||
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" Try applying to borrow money where there's no paper trail to show financial outgoings and responsible behaviour.
And as per the point further up. Why is all the new King Charles currency being minted if cashless is imminent.
There's no country in the world going cashless or advocating it. Not us, not the USA, not China.
The closest at present is Finland but that's been natural progression for convenience and its long been a country where cash use has been in decline, just by personal habit rather than government coercion.
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Charles currency is obviously a false flag.
Societies use less money (or insert conspiracy du jour here) therefore apocalypse doom etc therefore we overcome this by throwing a gigantic tantrum.
Contrary evidence is just further evidence of the conspiracy, because reasons.
If the apocalypse ever comes.....sorry....when the apocalypse comes, we'll all be using alternatives for currency anyhow.
Potatoes, string, glue and of course condoms, because that's the safest way not to get the latest 5G linked virus whilst you're trying to repopulate the planet and overthrow the lizard overlords.
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But we can stop the apocalypse by kicking and screaming.
Or temporarily put it on hold... Because conspiracy grifters thrive on making their marks believe that we're just on the edge of DOOOOOOM.
So kick, scream, tell Mummy she's mean, and keep sending the grifters money. The fate of the world is in your hands
Probably just normal everyday people doing the right thing and WARNING everyone
Just like our delightful government will do tomorrow at 3pm threw the alert system
Follows the same pattern.
Thing happens - people make shit up and say any contrary evidence is proof that they're right (even when the people making shit up said the opposite yesterday). Therefore DOOM! When doom doesn't happen, it's because the bold noble toddler tantrum and sending grifters money saved the world. But look! Another doom! Rinse and repeat forever.
Yehhh sure
Barcodes are the mark of the beast and we are in the end times
Patriot Act 2 following the clearly Jewish false flag of 9/11.
Holding down people and forcing them to be vaccinated as global control following H1N1.
Permanent forever lockdown from Covid (which is an evil Fauchian Obama bioweapon but also repeat infections is healthy)
Vaccines will make all children autistic by 2025 because mercury no wait we took that out epigenetic damage from previous mercury because epigenetics means whatever we want it to
Vaccines - Covid edition - will kill people immediately/in six months/in a year or two/someday there will be DOOM and then you'll see
Being upset about school shootings means freedom will be lost forever
Etc ad nauseum
Really? "Yup. Stories that grifters have sold as the end of the world and morons have fallen for. Do your own research! They scream, knowing their audience wouldn't know research if it bit them. Unfortunately, the rise in echo chambers mean that alternative cultures have been set up, free from any actual facts, and facts are viewed as an assault upon them. *Shrug* | |||
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"For what's it's worth (colloquially speaking and not actual monetary worth) I've superimposed an official 'definitive image' of HRH King Charles III onto my Google Wallet app. So, there you have it: an electronic form of currency AND my beloved King on my virtual notes and coins and other such numismatic forms of payment. I've done the same on my Apple Pay (work mobile) but my iPhone always makes me enter my password ³ times just to wind me up before actually accepting the very first password. I'll shut up now. "Problem solved! Conspiracy over, everyone stand down (until the grifters need more money) | |||
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