FabSwingers.com forum: Lance Armstrong on Oprah Winfrey

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

As Lance Armstrong prepares for his intriguing but no doubt stage-managed public relations exercise with the sports aficionado and interviewing rottweiler that is, ahem, Oprah Winfrey, one of our country's greatest female cyclists uses the publicity of her retirement to launch a scathing attack on him. Heart-warming.

Please see Beijing Olympic Champion Nicole Cooke's interview on the BBC Sport website.. Completely justified too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't think Armstrong should be given airtime. He wasn't sorry while he was cheating his fellow competitors out of competing on equal terms, only sorry he got found out. The man is scum.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The man beat testicular cancer....he is a hero.

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By *xpresMan
over a year ago

Elland

It wasnt the fact he cheeted its the way he did it.. lied n acused his acusers of shit things, like his massuses when she told the world he was a cheet he lied n said she was a whore, the daily mail was sewed for over a million,, his sponcers gave him millions coz he was a clean athlete he is a cheet the excuse well every one else was doing it is shite he was a huge anti drug role model... well not anymore lance.. so he got thru cancer big deal loads of people do especialy with the best healthcare money can buy..

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By *histler21Man
over a year ago

Ipswich

Sounds like he was a better cheat than all the other leading cyclists - as they were all at it...

I won't be watching his attempts to excuse what he did.

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By *icklybitMan
over a year ago

Ayrshire

The whole sport was tainted by performance enhancing drugs, they were all at it, he was just more successful.

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By *xodussxMan
over a year ago

sheffield

Plenty more should come forward and confess

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The whole sport was tainted by performance enhancing drugs, they were all at it, he was just more successful.

i dont think thats a fair statement at all

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The whole sport was tainted by performance enhancing drugs, they were all at it, he was just more successful.

i dont think thats a fair statement at all"

I would say its a fair statement, the whole sport has been tainted by drugs, this is why even now tour winners have to defend themselves against people assuming they have cheated, and there were a lot of people at it In Armstrongs era all his team edoped or weren't allowed on the team and they can't find a rider in the top 10 of any of Armstrong's victories who wasn't doping think the best placed clean rider was 14th

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By *etitesaraTV/TS
over a year ago

rochdale

"The man beat testicular cancer....he is a hero."

The man bullied fellow riders into using drugs, destroyed the careers of those who tried to say no, forced riders out of the sport and bribed his way out of trouble on several occasions, with the help and support of the UCI.

The 'man' is a cheat, a liar, a fake & a fraud. He should be given no more air time & should be a million miles away from the sport.

Nicole Cooke is a true athlete who speaks the truth.

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By *etitesaraTV/TS
over a year ago

rochdale

"The whole sport was tainted by performance enhancing drugs, they were all at it, he was just more successful.

Wrong. Not everyone responds equally to the drugs, it was never a level playing field and Armstrong and his team ran the most efficient doping ring in sporting history.

Not to say other riders and teams weren't at it, just that Armstrong & co did it in an industrial manner.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"The man beat testicular cancer....he is a hero."

No one is questioning this, it's his actions in his professional career that they are talking about.

Are you suggesting he should be forgiven for dragging down a whole sport because he beat cancer? Don't get me wrong, it's great to hear a success story when it comes to cancer but you have to remember.....he used this as part of his or when he won all those tour Dr France's under the influence if performance enhancing drugs......not the work of a hero in my eyes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The whole sport was tainted by performance enhancing drugs, they were all at it, he was just more successful.

A very simplistic viewpoint. He was the only one that bribed and bullied his way to the top.. And Livestrong was a front for that behaviour.

Oprah will be a farce they've been friends for years.

As for Cooke, if the _umours I heard were true I suspect there were a few sighs of relief yesterday within British Cycling yesterday as her retirement statement wad much tamer than it could have been.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The man beat testicular cancer....he is a hero."

People who beat cancer aren't heroes, they are lucky.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The man beat testicular cancer....he is a hero.

The 'man' is a cheat, a liar, a fake & a fraud. He should be given no more air time & should be a million miles away from the sport.

Nicole Cooke is a true athlete who speaks the truth."

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By *icklybitMan
over a year ago

Ayrshire

Contador

Landis

Pantani

Ullrich

Riis

Indurain

Delgado

Fignon

Even Eddy Merckx

All doped and thats just the tip of the iceberg, its been going on for as long as the tour.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I actually fear for Armstrong's well being. All he has ever known is the life of an athlete. The confession is nothing more than a desperate attempt to be able to compete in triathlon again. He's deluded enough to not realise his political aspirations are over. He's lost Livestrong. He's lost all his corporate endorsements, lost the lucrative public speaking. has nothing left of the past and no clear future.He's a washed up forget junkie.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

He knows he's banned from bike racing for life, nobody will touch him commercially, his foundation will wind down as people desert it in droves. He's finished.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Contador

Landis

Pantani

Ullrich

Riis

Indurain

Delgado

Fignon

Even Eddy Merckx

All doped and thats just the tip of the iceberg, its been going on for as long as the tour.

Which explains why Armstrong's 7 stripped Tour de France titles will not be redistributed to whoever came second as there seems little point taking it off one doping cheat only to give it to another.

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By *onnoisseur100Man
over a year ago

Woking-ish

Am I behind the times but thought that there was No hard evidence, just third party possibly bullied statements from people who had done deals with so called authorities. (Is that not a form of corruption in itself?)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't understand why he don't slink off with husband millions and just keep quiet and live his life. He is obviously guilty and whatever contrived interview he has with Oprah will not change a thing.

I am guessing his ego keeps his need for publicity going

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The drugs the others were taking gave the cyclists the ability to perform at the top of their threshold, the EPO Armstrong was on increased the oxygen flow in the bloodstream, and therefore could perform beyond his threshold, especially when he was flying up the mountains. His recovery between stages was also increased.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In the interview the only thing Lance should respond with is all you young kids out there competing in sports DON'T cheat as you will always get caught out !!! that is if he has the balls oops ball!!! other than that fuck him and everything he has done and now how he wants to continue in other riding events ,give me a break!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

he was a better cheat than the rest, they were all at it, but he still wone take away the drugs, and would he have still wone well yes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How can he admit to doping? He as lied in A court of law and surely if he admits doping he should go to jail?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Would he have won without cheating? He was a decent cyclist before his cancer, he came back after better than before.

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By *ust_for_laughsCouple
over a year ago

Hinckley

"Would he have won without cheating? He was a decent cyclist before his cancer, he came back after better than before. "

He was doping before he had cancer

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Looks to me like he found the perfect way to cheat as no ones been able to prove what he was actually doing, they think they know but there's still no concrete proof .

Other posts on here are right though , it sayes a lot when they haven't given his wins to the guy who came second because they don't know who was and who wasn't cheating !

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By *xodussxMan
over a year ago

sheffield

"How can he admit to doping? He as lied in A court of law and surely if he admits doping he should go to jail? "
..NO he face no jail as it been more than 5 years. The cheat is a smart ass

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"The man beat testicular cancer....he is a hero."

people survive cancer every day, good and normal people..

no heroics involved tbh..

armstrong is a cheat, accept it..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Would he have won without cheating? He was a decent cyclist before his cancer, he came back after better than before.

He was doping before he had cancer"

There are witness statements that he confessed to extensive doping when he was diagnosed. There is also a belief that the late diagnosis was in part to his doping distorting so many blood values.

Armstrong turned pro very young but couldn't finish a race. Year later he was world champion. It's not hard to work out when he started or at least started in ernest.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Armstrong is a cheat and a fraud, masquarading as a great sportsman.

As someone who has survived cancer and now training for the London Marathon my inspiration is Jane Tomlinson, someone who showed what can be achieved with true grit and a desire not to give in

As for Armstrong - I have nothing but contempt for him

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I still wear my livestrong band for a simple fact ,he has never failed a drugs test !!

It's all hear say from other people and fellow cyclists !! ,who have either been paid or let off with a lighter punishment !!

Give it a few years and they'll be throwing shit at the likes of bradley wiggins etc !

I beleive he's only doing the interview to save the foundation as he's lost everything else so may as well give the world what they want to hear and walk away !!

He's still a hero in my eyes

.... And a great cyclist

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The mans a cheating cunt but at least he's had the ball to admit it.

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By *onnoisseur100Man
over a year ago

Woking-ish

"The man beat testicular cancer....he is a hero.

people survive cancer every day, good and normal people..

no heroics involved tbh..

armstrong is a cheat, accept it.."

If you could just provide some evidence to support your statement I would happily accept it. However without that proof I have no choice but to rebut your accusation with the phrase 'Innocent until proved guilty'

Sorry.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I still wear my livestrong band for a simple fact ,he has never failed a drugs test !!

It's all hear say from other people and fellow cyclists !! ,who have either been paid or let off with a lighter punishment !!

Give it a few years and they'll be throwing shit at the likes of bradley wiggins etc !

I beleive he's only doing the interview to save the foundation as he's lost everything else so may as well give the world what they want to hear and walk away !!

He's still a hero in my eyes

.... And a great cyclist "

There's no doubting he was a very good cyclist but anyone who still believes he wasn't a huge drugs cheat (and not just that, but an aggressive bully to anyone who opposed his regime of cheating) is either looking through VERY rose-tinted spectacles or simply hasn't taken the time to read all of the information that's come out as a result of the recent investigations.

Yes there was a lot of EPO in the pro peleton during his 'glory years' but he was the one who took organised doping to a whole new level. And if you think about, it should be pretty clear that if all the other contenders at the time were doping too, he would never have won a single TdF unless he was doping even more. there is just no way a clean Armstrong would have been able to destroy a juiced Ullrich like he did.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I still wear my livestrong band for a simple fact ,he has never failed a drugs test !!

It's all hear say from other people and fellow cyclists !! ,who have either been paid or let off with a lighter punishment !!

Give it a few years and they'll be throwing shit at the likes of bradley wiggins etc !

I beleive he's only doing the interview to save the foundation as he's lost everything else so may as well give the world what they want to hear and walk away !!

He's still a hero in my eyes

.... And a great cyclist

I understand what ur saying BUT has he ever failed a drugs test ??

Plain and simple answer is NO !!

Im willing to put my hand up in the air and condem him like everyone else if its proved 100%

As a cyclist myself ,I totally agree there's no place in cycling for drugs .... Love the sport passionately but sadly drugs are killing it

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By *umourCouple
over a year ago

Rushden

"I still wear my livestrong band for a simple fact ,he has never failed a drugs test !!

He's still a hero in my eyes

.... And a great cyclist "

Sand, head.... Head this is sand!

I heard it said on a sports phone in program when they were talking about Armstrong.. "The only people who will think him a hero, are those who accept that cheating is ok in the persuit of excellence!"

So I would be interested to know, is that how you feel?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I still wear my livestrong band for a simple fact ,he has never failed a drugs test !!

It's all hear say from other people and fellow cyclists !! ,who have either been paid or let off with a lighter punishment !!

Give it a few years and they'll be throwing shit at the likes of bradley wiggins etc !

I beleive he's only doing the interview to save the foundation as he's lost everything else so may as well give the world what they want to hear and walk away !!

He's still a hero in my eyes

.... And a great cyclist

I understand what ur saying BUT has he ever failed a drugs test ??

Plain and simple answer is NO !!

Im willing to put my hand up in the air and condem him like everyone else if its proved 100%

As a cyclist myself ,I totally agree there's no place in cycling for drugs .... Love the sport passionately but sadly drugs are killing it

I actually think things are getting much better - and the fallout from the Armstrong affair can only help... that's the one upside. I fully believe the 2012 (go Wiggo!) was clean, I saw nothing there in terms of superhuman outputs on climbs, too-fast recovery times etc to raise any suspicion - although that may have been helped by the absence of the Schlecks and Contador, who I don't trust.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

We've allowed a situation to arise in sport where the only things that matter are money and winning.

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By *umourCouple
over a year ago

Rushden

A quote from the NBC website..

"Oprah Winfrey says Lance Armstrong was "forthcoming" in their 2.5 hour interview, a session during which the disgraced cyclist admitted using performance enhancing drugs to win the Tour de France, NBC News has confirmed."

Of course time will tell if this is correct, but an admission without failing a drug test just throws into doubt the whole testing regime! It also causes a dilema for those who say they will believe he was clean unless he fails a test! They will have to take his admission!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We've allowed a situation to arise in sport where the only things that matter are money and winning."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I still wear my livestrong band for a simple fact ,he has never failed a drugs test !!

He's still a hero in my eyes

.... And a great cyclist

Sand, head.... Head this is sand!

So I would be interested to know, is that how you feel?"

NO ... cheating is not acceptable whether in the persuit of excellence or not !! ... End of the day .. show me where he has failed a drug test and i`ll accept it ... otherwise ... sorry not convinced ..... Drug testing is there for a reason .... HE HASNT FAILED WELL OVER 500 TESTS ! ..

Everyones entitled to there own opinion ..... I`ll go with the actual facts ... which is .... i wont bother saying it again !

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By *edbagioMan
over a year ago

ripon

i just think its time to sweep it

under the carpet.

start a fresh they /most were at it

its like silent flixs now we have talking;different era out with the old;

when all said and done he still went

up the hills and in some tours you needed something to get round

4 alp stages one after the other

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I still wear my livestrong band for a simple fact ,he has never failed a drugs test !!

He's still a hero in my eyes

.... And a great cyclist

Sand, head.... Head this is sand!

So I would be interested to know, is that how you feel?

Everyones entitled to there own opinion ..... I`ll go with the actual facts ... which is .... i wont bother saying it again !"

Over 500? Where did you read that? It's another Armstrong lie. Bit like when he claims to be the most tasted athlete on earth, when he wasn't even the most tested American cyclist called Armstrong (that honour falls to Kirsten Armstrong). And he failed a test but got a back dated TUPE. And he bribed the UCI. And he tried to bribe USADA. And the testing labs told him how to beat the tests.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

it always intrigues me why its never dealt with at the time, when evidence, if any, can be brought to light. Why do they leave it years later to sort out. Just like the saville enquirey. Its media driven idiocey. Contador got fucked the other year, found out, slapped, and won the veulta. most top riders have used it, he wasnt found out. Just a few narked riders want it sortin maybe. Who knows. It wont do anyone any good. Just 7 blank Tour de france winners. What about all the other titles ? Ho hum.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"it always intrigues me why its never dealt with at the time, when evidence, if any, can be brought to light. Why do they leave it years later to sort out. Just like the saville enquirey. Its media driven idiocey. Contador got fucked the other year, found out, slapped, and won the veulta. most top riders have used it, he wasnt found out. Just a few narked riders want it sortin maybe. Who knows. It wont do anyone any good. Just 7 blank Tour de france winners. What about all the other titles ? Ho hum.

It's not media lead. There was a federal investigation that faltered for reasons unknown and then an investigation by USADA, how is that in anyway media lead?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I actually fear for Armstrong's well being. All he has ever known is the life of an athlete. The confession is nothing more than a desperate attempt to be able to compete in triathlon again. He's deluded enough to not realise his political aspirations are over. He's lost Livestrong. He's lost all his corporate endorsements, lost the lucrative public speaking. has nothing left of the past and no clear future.He's a washed up forget junkie."

personaly I have no simpathy for him! Use to be a hero of mine but he was never a true athlete if you are not clean! Nicole Cook had to take the teams she rode for to court 3 times to get her wages because she wouldnt take anything she will be rememberd for all the right reasons! good on her

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I still wear my livestrong band for a simple fact ,he has never failed a drugs test !!

He's still a hero in my eyes

.... And a great cyclist

Sand, head.... Head this is sand!

So I would be interested to know, is that how you feel?

Everyones entitled to there own opinion ..... I`ll go with the actual facts ... which is .... i wont bother saying it again !"

Er... he's admitted it on live TV. What can you possibly want more in the way of facts?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I still wear my livestrong band for a simple fact ,he has never failed a drugs test !!

It's all hear say from other people and fellow cyclists !! ,who have either been paid or let off with a lighter punishment !!

Give it a few years and they'll be throwing shit at the likes of bradley wiggins etc !

I beleive he's only doing the interview to save the foundation as he's lost everything else so may as well give the world what they want to hear and walk away !!

He's still a hero in my eyes

.... And a great cyclist "

"Save the foundation" - that would be the foundation that he resigned from already.

Lost everything else? No he most definitely still has most of his personal fortune of approximately £125million. Even the lawsuits he has laid himself wide open to won't make that big a dent in it.

His confession is for one reason and one reason only. Because he wants to compete in ironman triathlon and wants his lifetime ban significantly reduced.

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By *andcCouple
over a year ago

London and Cheshire

Begs the question...why didn't he get caught! He is one of the most tested athletes and they never caught him! Either he's very good or the testing system is not up to the job!

If he got away with it which other cyclist are getting away with it?

Best bet is the International Cycling Union, start to employ him and find out how he did it, so they can get a better testing system in place... or are they just not bothered?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is on telly right now

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By *umourCouple
over a year ago

Rushden

"I`ll go with the actual facts ... which is .... i wont bother saying it again !"

You were saying?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For me there was very little remorse. Well maybe I missed something but that's the way he came across to me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I`ll go with the actual facts ... which is .... i wont bother saying it again !

You were saying?

Ha ha

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

every rider implicated below,also needs there placing stripped.not just lance.

1998 Tour de France

Rank Name Team Time Notes

1 Marco Pantani (ITA) Mercatone Uno 92h 49' 46" Forced to take a two-week break from racing in 1999 Giro for irregular blood values.[67] Died of cocaine overdose in 2004.

2 Jan Ullrich (GER) Telekom +3' 21"

Implicated in Telekom affair and Operación Puerto. Banned retroactively in 2011 for the period 2005-7[68]

3 Bobby Julich (USA) Cofidis +4' 08" Accused of doping by teammate Philippe Gaumont in the book Prisonnier du dopage. Admitted in October 2012.[69][70]

4 Christophe Rinero (FRA) Cofidis +9' 16" Accused of doping by teammate Philippe Gaumont in the book Prisonnier du dopage

5 Michael Boogerd (NED) Rabobank +11' 26" Accused by Floyd Landis of blood doping.[71] Allegedly involved in Humanplasma affair.[72] Admitted use of cortisonen at talkshow.[73]

6 Jean-Cyril Robin (FRA) US Postal Service +14' 57"

7 Roland Meier (SUI) Cofidis +15' 13"

Tested positive for EPO in 2001.[74]

8 Daniele Nardello (ITA) Mapei +16' 07"

9 Giuseppe Di Grande (ITA) Mapei +17' 35" sentenced to six months imprisonment for violating antidoping laws in Italy in 2005[75]

10 Axel Merckx (BEL) Polti +17' 39" Named in Giardini Margherita investigation in Italy, 1998.[76] Client of Michele Ferrari[77]

[edit]1999 Tour de France

Rank Name Team Time Notes

1 Lance Armstrong (USA) US Postal Service 91h 32' 16" Allegedly tested positive for EPO in 1999[78] in an unofficial test done in 2005 on frozen urine. Client of banned doping doctor Michele Ferrari. Accused by former team members, including Floyd Landis and Tyler Hamilton. Banned for life and stripped of all Tour de France titles in 2012.[41]. Admitted using doping to win all tours on television in an interview with Oprah Winfrey held on 17th January 2013

2 Alex Zülle (SUI) Banesto +7' 37" admitted to taking EPO during the Festina Affair

3 Fernando Escartín (ESP) Kelme +10' 26" Named as a client of Conconi in the Ferrara affair.[79] Client of Michele Ferrari.

4 Laurent Dufaux (SUI) Saeco +14' 43" sanctioned for doping during Festina affair

5 Ángel Casero (ESP) Vitalicio Seguros +15' 11" Implicated in Fuentes affair.

6 Abraham Olano (ESP) ONCE +16' 47" Tested positive for Caffeine and suspended for 3 months in 1994.[80] Named in Giardini Margherita investigation in Italy, 1998.

7 Daniele Nardello (ITA) Mapei +17' 02"

8 Richard Virenque (FRA) Polti +17' 28" sanctioned for doping during Festina affair

9 Wladimir Belli (ITA) Festina +17' 37"

10 Andrea Peron (ITA) ONCE +23' 10"

[edit]2000 Tour de France

Rank Name Team Time Notes

1 Lance Armstrong (USA) US Postal Service 92h 33' 08" See #1999_Tour_de_France

2 Jan Ullrich (GER) Telekom +6' 02" see #1998_Tour_de_France

3 Joseba Beloki (ESP) Festina +10' 04" implicated in Operación Puerto, but later cleared by Spanish officials

4 Christophe Moreau (FRA) Festina +10' 34" Tested positive for anabolic steroids in 1998.[81] Admitted to taking EPO during the Festina trial.[82]

5 Roberto Heras (ESP) Kelme +11' 50" Tested positive for EPO in 2005 Vuelta.[83]

6 Richard Virenque (FRA) Polti +13' 26" See #1999_Tour_de_France

7 Santiago Botero (COL) Kelme +14' 18" implicated in Operación Puerto and banned from 2006 Tour, but later cleared by Colombian officials

8 Fernando Escartín (ESP) Kelme +17' 21" See #1999_Tour_de_France

9 Francisco Mancebo (ESP) Banesto +18' 09" implicated in Operación Puerto and banned from 2006 Tour

10 Daniele Nardello (ITA) Mapei +18' 25"

[edit]2001 Tour de France

Rank Name Team Time Notes

1 Lance Armstrong (USA) US Postal Service 86h 17' 28" See #1999_Tour_de_France

2 Jan Ullrich (GER) Telekom +6' 44" See #1998_Tour_de_France

3 Joseba Beloki (ESP) ONCE +9' 05" See #2000_Tour_de_France

4 Andrei Kivilev (KAZ) Cofidis +9' 53"

5 Igor González (ESP) ONCE +13' 28"

banned for six months in 2000 for Nandrolone, and again in 2002 for doping

6 François Simon (FRA) Bonjour +17' 22"

7 Óscar Sevilla (ESP) Kelme +18' 30" Implicated in Telekom affair and Operación Puerto. Banned in 2010 after positive test in Vuelta a Colombia.

8 Santiago Botero (COL) Kelme +20' 55" See #2000_Tour_de_France

9 Marcos Antonio Serrano (ESP) ONCE +21' 45" Among the riders names in Operación Puerto.[84]

10 Michael Boogerd (NED) Rabobank +22' 38" See #1998_Tour_de_France

[edit]2002 Tour de France

Rank Name Team Time Notes

1 Lance Armstrong (USA) US Postal Service 82h 05' 12" See #1999_Tour_de_France

2 Joseba Beloki (ESP) ONCE +7' 17" See #2000_Tour_de_France

3 Raimondas Rumsas (LIT) Lampre +8' 17" Tested positive for EPO in 2003. 4 months suspended prison sentence in 2006 for import of prohibited substances in France.

4 Santiago Botero (COL) Kelme +13' 10" See #2000_Tour_de_France

5 Igor González (ESP) ONCE +13' 54" See #2001_Tour_de_France

6 José Azevedo (POR) ONCE +15' 44"

7 Francisco Mancebo (ESP) iBanesto.com +16' 05" See #2000_Tour_de_France

8 Levi Leipheimer (USA) Rabobank +17' 11" Tested positive for ephedrine 1996 U.S. National Criterium Championships. Reportedly among the witnesses testifying to Doping in 2012 USADA trial.[85]

9 Roberto Heras (ESP) US Postal Service +17' 12" See #2000_Tour_de_France

10 Carlos Sastre (ESP) Team CSC +19' 05"

[edit]2003 Tour de France

Rank Name Team Time Notes

1 Lance Armstrong (USA) US Postal Service 83h 41' 12" See #1999_Tour_de_France

2 Jan Ullrich (GER) Bianchi +1' 01" see #1998_Tour_de_France

3 Alexandre Vinokourov (KAZ) Telekom +4' 14" Blood doping at 2007 Tour de France, one-year ban

4 Tyler Hamilton (USA) Team CSC +6' 17" Blood doping at 2004 Vuelta a Espana and 2004 Olympics. Two-year ban. Positive for DHEA in 2009, eight-year ban

5 Haimar Zubeldia (ESP) Euskaltel +6' 51"

6 Iban Mayo (ESP) Euskaltel +7' 06" Tested positive for EPO during the 2007 Tour, 2 year ban.

7 Ivan Basso (ITA) Fassa Bortolo +10' 12" Implicated in Operación Puerto and suspended in 2007 for two years for admitting to planning to use doping.[86]

8 Christophe Moreau (FRA) Crédit Agricole +12' 28" see #2000_Tour_de_France

9 Carlos Sastre (ESP) Team CSC +18' 49"

10 Francisco Mancebo (ESP) iBanesto.com +19' 15" See #2000_Tour_de_France

[edit]2004 Tour de France

Rank Name Team Time Notes

1 Lance Armstrong (USA) US Postal Service 83h 36' 02" See #1999_Tour_de_France

2 Andreas Klöden (GER) T-Mobile +6' 19"

Named among the riders to have received illegal blood transfusions in Freiburg in 2006.[87]

3 Ivan Basso (ITA) Team CSC +6' 40" See #2003_Tour_de_France

4 Jan Ullrich (GER) T-Mobile +8' 50" See #1998_Tour_de_France

5 José Azevedo (POR) US Postal Service +14' 30"

6 Francisco Mancebo (ESP) Illes Balears-Banesto-Santander +18' 01" See #2000_Tour_de_France

7 Georg Totschnig (AUT) Gerolsteiner +18' 27"

Implicated in the HumanPlasma affair.[88]

8 Carlos Sastre (ESP) Team CSC +19' 51"

9 Levi Leipheimer (USA) Rabobank +20' 12" See #2002_Tour_de_France

10 Óscar Pereiro (ESP) Phonak +22' 54" Tested positive for Salbutamol in 2006, but later acquitted.

[edit]2005 Tour de France

Rank Name Team Time Notes

1 Lance Armstrong (USA) Discovery Channel 86h 15' 02" See #1999_Tour_de_France

2 Ivan Basso (ITA) Team CSC +4' 40" See #2003_Tour_de_France

3 Jan Ullrich (GER) T-Mobile +6' 21" see #1998_Tour_de_France

4 Francisco Mancebo (ESP) Illes Balears-Caisse d'Epargne +9' 59" See #2000_Tour_de_France

5 Alexandre Vinokourov (KAZ) T-Mobile +11' 01" See #2003_Tour_de_France

6 Levi Leipheimer (USA) Gerolsteiner +11' 21" See #2002_Tour_de_France

7 Michael Rasmussen (DEN) Rabobank +11' 33" Whereabouts testing violations, removed by own team from 2007 Tour de France

8 Cadel Evans (AUS) Davitamon-Lotto +11' 55"

9 Floyd Landis (USA) Phonak +12' 44" Tested positive for Testosterone during 2006 Tour and disqualified. Later admitted to doping throughout his career.[89]

10 Óscar Pereiro (ESP) Phonak +16' 04" See #2004_Tour_de_France

11 Christophe Moreau (FRA) Crédit Agricole +16' 26" see #2000_Tour_de_France

[edit]2006 Tour de France

Rank Name Team Time Notes

1 Floyd Landis (USA) Phonak 89h 39' 30" See #2005_Tour_de_France. Disqualified from 2006 Tour.

2 Óscar Pereiro (ESP) Caisse d'Epargne + 0' 57" See #2004_Tour_de_France

3 Andreas Klöden (GER) T-Mobile +0' 32" See #2004_Tour_de_France

4 Carlos Sastre (ESP) Team CSC +2' 16"

5 Cadel Evans (AUS) Davitamon-Lotto +4' 11"

6 Denis Menchov (RUS) Rabobank +6' 09" Client of Michele Ferrari.[90] Scored 9/10 on leaked 2010 UCI index of suspicious riders.[91]

7 Cyril Dessel (FRA) Ag2r +7' 44"

8 Christophe Moreau (FRA) Ag2r +8' 40" see #2000_Tour_de_France

9 Haimar Zubeldia (ESP) Euskaltel +11' 08"

10 Michael Rogers (AUS) T-Mobile +14' 10" Client of Michele Ferrari[92]

[edit]2007 Tour de France

Rank Name Team Time Notes

1 Alberto Contador (ESP) DSC 91h 00' 26" Implicated in the Puerto Affair. Tested positive for Clenbuterol in the 2010 Tour, 2 year ban.

2 Cadel Evans (AUS) Predictor-Lotto + 23"

3 Levi Leipheimer (USA) DSC + 31" See #2002 Tour de France

4 Carlos Sastre (ESP) Team CSC + 7' 08"

5 Haimar Zubeldia (ESP) Euskaltel-Euskadi + 8' 17"

6 Alejandro Valverde (ESP) Caisse d'Epargne + 11' 37" Convicted in 2009 of EPO use after link to Fuentes affair, 2 year ban.[93]

7 Kim Kirchen (LUX) T-Mobile Team + 12' 18"

8 Yaroslav Popovych (UKR) Discovery Channel + 12' 25" House raided by police, who found drugs and doping paraphernalia. Scored 10/10 on leaked 2010 UCI list of suspicious riders.[91]

9 Mikel Astarloza (ESP) Euskaltel-Euskadi + 14' 14" Tested positive for EPO in 2009, two-year ban

10 Óscar Pereiro (ESP) Caisse d'Epargne + 14' 25" See #2004 Tour de France

[edit]2008 Tour de France

Rank Name Team Time Notes

1 Carlos Sastre (ESP) Team CSC 87h 52' 52"

2 Cadel Evans (AUS) Silence-Lotto +0' 58"

3 Bernhard Kohl (AUT) Gerolsteiner DQ

Tested positive for CERA and disqualified.

4 Denis Menchov (RUS) Rabobank +2' 10" See #2006_Tour_de_France

5 Christian Vande Velde (USA) Garmin +3' 05" Admitted to using doping on the US Postal team. Accepted a ban of six months with all results from June 2004 through April 2006 disqualified.[94]

6 Fränk Schleck (LUX) Team CSC +4' 28"

Positive for diuretic masking agent xipamide at 2012 Tour de France, removed from Tour. Made payments of 7000 Euros to doper Euphemiano Fuentes[95]

7 Samuel Sánchez (ESP) Euskaltel +6' 25"

8 Kim Kirchen (LUX) Team Columbia +6' 55"

9 Alejandro Valverde (ESP) Caisse d'Epargne +7' 12" See #2007_Tour_de_France

10 Tadej Valjavec (SLO) Ag2r +9' 05" Irregular biological passport values, 2-year ban

[edit]2009 Tour de France

Rank Name Team Time Notes

1 Alberto Contador (ESP) Astana 85h 48' 35" See #2007_Tour_de_France

2 Andy Schleck (LUX) Team Saxo Bank +4' 11"

3 Lance Armstrong (USA) Astana +5' 24" See #1999_Tour_de_France

4 Bradley Wiggins (GBR) Garmin +6' 01"

5 Fränk Schleck (LUX) Team Saxo Bank +6' 04" See #2008_Tour_de_France

6 Andreas Klöden (GER) Astana +6' 42" See #2004_Tour_de_France

7 Vincenzo Nibali (ITA) Liquigas +7' 35"

8 Christian Vande Velde (USA) Garmin +12' 04" See #2008_Tour_de_France

9 Roman Kreuziger (CZE) Liquigas +14' 16"

10 Christophe Le Mével (FRA) Française des Jeux +14' 25"

[edit]2010 Tour de France

Rank Name Team Time Notes

1 Alberto Contador (ESP) Astana 91h 58'48" See #2007_Tour_de_France. Disqualified from 2010 Tour de France.

2 Andy Schleck (LUX) Team Saxo Bank + 39"

3 Denis Menchov (RUS) Rabobank +2' 01" See #2006_Tour_de_France

4 Samuel Sánchez (ESP) Euskaltel +3' 40"

5 Jurgen Van Den Broeck (BEL) Omega Pharma – Lotto +6' 54"

6 Robert Gesink (NED) Rabobank +9' 31"

7 Ryder Hesjedal (CAN) Garmin +10' 15"

8 Joaquim Rodríguez (ESP) Katusha +11' 37"

9 Roman Kreuziger (CZE) Liquigas +11' 54"

10 Chris Horner (USA) Team Radioshack +12' 02"

[edit]2011 Tour de France

Rank Name Team Time Notes

1 Cadel Evans (AUS) BMC Racing Team 86h 12' 22?

2 Andy Schleck (LUX) Leopard Trek + 1' 34?

3 Fränk Schleck (LUX) Leopard Trek + 2' 30? See #2008_Tour_de_France

4 Thomas Voeckler (FRA) Team Europcar + 3' 20?

5 Samuel Sánchez (ESP) Euskaltel-Euskadi + 4' 55?

6 Damiano Cunego (ITA) Lampre-ISD + 6' 05?

7 Ivan Basso (ITA) Liquigas-Cannondale + 7' 23? See #2003_Tour_de_France

8 Tom Danielson (USA) Garmin-Cervélo + 8' 15? Admitted to using doping on the US Postal team. Accepted a ban of six months with all results from March 2005 through 23 September 2006 disqualified.[96]

9 Jean-Christophe Péraud (FRA) Ag2r-La Mondiale + 10' 11?

10 Pierre Rolland (FRA) Team Europcar + 10' 43?

[edit]2012 Tour de France

Rider Team Time Notes

1 Bradley Wiggins (GBR) Team Sky 87h 34' 47"

2 Chris Froome (GBR) Team Sky + 3' 21?

3 Vincenzo Nibali (ITA) Liquigas-Cannondale + 6' 19?

4 Jurgen Van Den Broeck (BEL) Lotto-Belisol + 10' 15?

5 Tejay van Garderen (USA) BMC Racing Team + 11' 04?

6 Haimar Zubeldia (ESP) RadioShack-Nissan + 15' 41?

7 Cadel Evans (AUS) BMC Racing Team + 15' 49?

8 Pierre Rolland (FRA) Team Europcar + 16' 26?

9 Janez Brajkovic (SLO) Astana + 16' 33?

10 Thibaut Pinot (FRA) FDJ-BigMat + 17' 17?

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over a year ago

even eddie mercyx was tested postive for drugs.

is going to get stripped of his 5 titles?

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By *edbagioMan
over a year ago

ripon

"even eddie mercyx was tested postive for drugs.

is going to get stripped of his 5 titles?"
well done for typing all that other out;thank you.

a point of lance is why a life ban when others got 6 mths or at most 2 yrs;

and I agree why?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"even eddie mercyx was tested postive for drugs.

is going to get stripped of his 5 titles?well done for typing all that other out;thank you.

a point of lance is why a life ban when others got 6 mths or at most 2 yrs;

and I agree why? "

I think the life ban will be dropped to 2 years. Which is in keeping with other bans. The whistleblowers got a 6 month ban for co-operating though again in the interest of consistency in my opinion that should have been 1 year.

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over a year ago

dont understand why all the fuss,he rode a bike and won by cheating,there are more important things going on than a man who rides a bike,he is now making more money by the scandal.

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over a year ago

"dont understand why all the fuss,he rode a bike and won by cheating,there are more important things going on than a man who rides a bike,he is now making more money by the scandal."

He has lost every single income stream he had. The $multi-million endorsements and sponserships, the extremely lucrative public speaking appointments, the extremely dubious but very significant income from Livestrong, the various lawsuits he was already facing will multiply significantly now and one is potentially in the region of 10's of millions of dollars...

The one thing that Armstrong is not doing is making money.

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By *edbagioMan
over a year ago

ripon

we need to stop this thread now;

he did great;when im on drugs I cant even find my bike

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