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"Today starts easter and it is a big celebration in christianity, today marks the crucifixion of jesus, are you celebrating and thinking of him? I am "Enjoy your celebrations, not really religious but respect those who are... Easter for me is a celebration of new life and a welcoming of upcoming season  | |||
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"Today starts easter and it is a big celebration in christianity, today marks the crucifixion of jesus, are you celebrating and thinking of him? I am "I knew it would be you starting this thread before I even open it I've made few reference to him so far today. But not in the way your meaning . | |||
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"Nope, not in the slightest till you mentioned it. Just another working day for me. Still he loves us all so I have a feeling it'll be OK. Mr" Oh not all. He sends non believers to hell for all eternity to suffer in pain of fire! As he loves us! Lol lol lol | |||
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"Even if I thought it was the truth, not a lover of the concept of a blood sacrifice. If He wanted to forgive man his sins, why not just do so?! "As it’s fiction. | |||
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"Nope, not in the slightest till you mentioned it. Just another working day for me. Still he loves us all so I have a feeling it'll be OK. Mr Oh not all. He sends non believers to hell for all eternity to suffer in pain of fire! As he loves us! Lol lol lol " Mocking people that believe is a tad childish no? | |||
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"No, I don't really get involved in easter to be honest. I've always wondered why it changes date though. " As it was a pagan celebration like Xmas, taken by the church to persuade the gullible. Like a Brexit of its day | |||
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"No, I don't really get involved in easter to be honest. I've always wondered why it changes date though. As it was a pagan celebration like Xmas, taken by the church to persuade the gullible. Like a Brexit of its day " Dude. Live and let live | |||
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"Nope, not in the slightest till you mentioned it. Just another working day for me. Still he loves us all so I have a feeling it'll be OK. Mr Oh not all. He sends non believers to hell for all eternity to suffer in pain of fire! As he loves us! Lol lol lol " Don't worry I lived in Scunthorpe for a bit. I think I'll manage. | |||
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"No, I don't really get involved in easter to be honest. I've always wondered why it changes date though. As it was a pagan celebration like Xmas, taken by the church to persuade the gullible. Like a Brexit of its day Dude. Live and let live " Unlike Christians forcing this nonsense on us? Oh ok. | |||
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"No, I don't really get involved in easter to be honest. I've always wondered why it changes date though. As it was a pagan celebration like Xmas, taken by the church to persuade the gullible. Like a Brexit of its day Dude. Live and let live Unlike Christians forcing this nonsense on us? Oh ok. "  | |||
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"No, I don't really get involved in easter to be honest. I've always wondered why it changes date though. As it was a pagan celebration like Xmas, taken by the church to persuade the gullible. Like a Brexit of its day Dude. Live and let live Unlike Christians forcing this nonsense on us? Oh ok. " No one’s forcing anything on anyone. Scroll past and enjoy your day off | |||
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"Even if I thought it was the truth, not a lover of the concept of a blood sacrifice. If He wanted to forgive man his sins, why not just do so?! "Time for a good family Easter movie... The Passion of the Christ  | |||
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"Nope, not in the slightest till you mentioned it. Just another working day for me. Still he loves us all so I have a feeling it'll be OK. Mr Oh not all. He sends non believers to hell for all eternity to suffer in pain of fire! As he loves us! Lol lol lol Mocking people that believe is a tad childish no? " Couldn’t agree more! | |||
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"No, I don't really get involved in easter to be honest. I've always wondered why it changes date though. As it was a pagan celebration like Xmas, taken by the church to persuade the gullible. Like a Brexit of its day Dude. Live and let live Unlike Christians forcing this nonsense on us? Oh ok. " The only people forcing anything on you right now are the chocolate manufacturers. You chose to come and read a thread about religion. | |||
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"No, I don't really get involved in easter to be honest. I've always wondered why it changes date though. As it was a pagan celebration like Xmas, taken by the church to persuade the gullible. Like a Brexit of its day Dude. Live and let live Unlike Christians forcing this nonsense on us? Oh ok. " Only one view 'forcing nonsense' on others and it isn't the Christians | |||
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"No, I don't really get involved in easter to be honest. I've always wondered why it changes date though. As it was a pagan celebration like Xmas, taken by the church to persuade the gullible. Like a Brexit of its day Dude. Live and let live Unlike Christians forcing this nonsense on us? Oh ok. " Yeah, those pesky christians mannn, forcing me to have a day of and spend a long weekend in a hot tub, absolute monsters!  have a good weekend on ya, Shag | |||
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That made me laugh out loud. I’m a bad person "Not a bad person, you just appreciate dark humour  | |||
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"I'm not really, Shag. But I think it’s great that you are. Have a spectacular day" That is good and ty posh. I will, have a great day you too | |||
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"Today starts easter and it is a big celebration in christianity, today marks the crucifixion of jesus, are you celebrating and thinking of him? I am "Not really , I just want to get ridden like Seabiscuit | |||
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"I mean it'll be a tough wank, but I'm willing to try "That nearly gave me a heart attack From laughing so hard . | |||
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That made me laugh out loud. I’m a bad person "Amused me too and I'm a lovely person. | |||
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"Gorgeous sunny morning, out with the dog as the sun rose. Looking forward to Easter Sunday and an early morning walk on Hampstead Heath with my dog - one year even came across a local CofE group having a sunrise service. Always used to like doing the same at St Martha's in Guildford, and if there were Christians having a sunrise service, loved the hymns carring in the air." * carrying | |||
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"Was brought up with this religion and have always like Bible stories and movies .and church's old church service in Latin . And if you belive its your right to do so have a good easter shag and all here." Same, I was raised with Christianity and Christian values and while I choose another path I respect the Church and it's teachings. People have faith and beliefs for all reasons and for some their faith is all they have, tolerance is key, some might not agree with other peoples religions and beliefs but we can respect it and understand it had true meaning to some | |||
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"No, I don't really get involved in easter to be honest. I've always wondered why it changes date though. " It's always the first Sunday after the Paschal full moon, which is the first full moon after the spring equinox. | |||
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"No, I don't really get involved in easter to be honest. I've always wondered why it changes date though. It's always the first Sunday after the Paschal full moon, which is the first full moon after the spring equinox. " Mm in the words of Michael Caine No lot of people know that . | |||
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"No, I don't really get involved in easter to be honest. I've always wondered why it changes date though. It's always the first Sunday after the Paschal full moon, which is the first full moon after the spring equinox. " And the moon looked absolutely stunning last night | |||
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"No, I don't really get involved in easter to be honest. I've always wondered why it changes date though. It's always the first Sunday after the Paschal full moon, which is the first full moon after the spring equinox. Mm in the words of Michael Caine No lot of people know that ." well one or two more do now | |||
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"No, I don't really get involved in easter to be honest. I've always wondered why it changes date though. It's always the first Sunday after the Paschal full moon, which is the first full moon after the spring equinox. And the moon looked absolutely stunning last night " I didn't look last night but a few nights ago we were looking at it through our telescope and it was beautiful | |||
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"Was brought up with this religion and have always like Bible stories and movies .and church's old church service in Latin . And if you belive its your right to do so have a good easter shag and all here. Same, I was raised with Christianity and Christian values and while I choose another path I respect the Church and it's teachings. People have faith and beliefs for all reasons and for some their faith is all they have, tolerance is key, some might not agree with other peoples religions and beliefs but we can respect it and understand it had true meaning to some" Christian Bible isn’t tolerant though. It’s full of hate, people owning as property, murder, child stoning, anti women, virgin implanting, jealousy and revenge. | |||
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"No, I don't really get involved in easter to be honest. I've always wondered why it changes date though. It's always the first Sunday after the Paschal full moon, which is the first full moon after the spring equinox. And the moon looked absolutely stunning last night I didn't look last night but a few nights ago we were looking at it through our telescope and it was beautiful "I was out walking late on. Even took pic! Clouds across the moon…. | |||
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"Was brought up with this religion and have always like Bible stories and movies .and church's old church service in Latin . And if you belive its your right to do so have a good easter shag and all here. Same, I was raised with Christianity and Christian values and while I choose another path I respect the Church and it's teachings. People have faith and beliefs for all reasons and for some their faith is all they have, tolerance is key, some might not agree with other peoples religions and beliefs but we can respect it and understand it had true meaning to some Christian Bible isn’t tolerant though. It’s full of hate, people owning as property, murder, child stoning, anti women, virgin implanting, jealousy and revenge. " FULL of hate etc.... are you sure While there are some bad things in there from years back, wouldnt say oy was full of it you do have a choice | |||
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"I’ll be celebrating all weekend. Hope you have a good one OP and everyone "Hi and ty. I will have a good one and have a good one you too | |||
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"Even if I thought it was the truth, not a lover of the concept of a blood sacrifice. If He wanted to forgive man his sins, why not just do so?!
Time for a good family Easter movie... The Passion of the Christ "Lmao yesss | |||
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"No, I don't really get involved in easter to be honest. I've always wondered why it changes date though. As it was a pagan celebration like Xmas, taken by the church to persuade the gullible. Like a Brexit of its day Dude. Live and let live Unlike Christians forcing this nonsense on us? Oh ok. " Just chill ... you've got a lovely Bank Holiday out I'd it. We do not need the rants. | |||
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"No, I don't really get involved in easter to be honest. I've always wondered why it changes date though. As it was a pagan celebration like Xmas, taken by the church to persuade the gullible. Like a Brexit of its day " Get a grip (and its christmas) Happy easter to everyone whos celebrating and those who arent have a lovely weekend | |||
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"Not in the slightest. But no judgement here. Have a good one OP." I will and you too . | |||
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"Was brought up with this religion and have always like Bible stories and movies .and church's old church service in Latin . And if you belive its your right to do so have a good easter shag and all here. Same, I was raised with Christianity and Christian values and while I choose another path I respect the Church and it's teachings. People have faith and beliefs for all reasons and for some their faith is all they have, tolerance is key, some might not agree with other peoples religions and beliefs but we can respect it and understand it had true meaning to some Christian Bible isn’t tolerant though. It’s full of hate, people owning as property, murder, child stoning, anti women, virgin implanting, jealousy and revenge. " It's also full of love, peace, respect, understanding and honor. Believe or don't believe, but dont belittle. | |||
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"Hope you have a lovely Easter weekend Shag. And everyone else whatever you’re doing "Hi and ty nora. I will and have a good easter weekend you too, happy easter | |||
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"Was brought up with this religion and have always like Bible stories and movies .and church's old church service in Latin . And if you belive its your right to do so have a good easter shag and all here. Same, I was raised with Christianity and Christian values and while I choose another path I respect the Church and it's teachings. People have faith and beliefs for all reasons and for some their faith is all they have, tolerance is key, some might not agree with other peoples religions and beliefs but we can respect it and understand it had true meaning to some Christian Bible isn’t tolerant though. It’s full of hate, people owning as property, murder, child stoning, anti women, virgin implanting, jealousy and revenge. FULL of hate etc.... are you sure While there are some bad things in there from years back, wouldnt say oy was full of it you do have a choice" Yes it is full. And according to Jesus, the New Testament is not an updated version of the Old. He changes nothing of what was preached before. Look up Matt Delahunty on YouTube. An ex Baptist minister for over 20 years who now debates and knows the bible inside out. | |||
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"Was brought up with this religion and have always like Bible stories and movies .and church's old church service in Latin . And if you belive its your right to do so have a good easter shag and all here. Same, I was raised with Christianity and Christian values and while I choose another path I respect the Church and it's teachings. People have faith and beliefs for all reasons and for some their faith is all they have, tolerance is key, some might not agree with other peoples religions and beliefs but we can respect it and understand it had true meaning to some Christian Bible isn’t tolerant though. It’s full of hate, people owning as property, murder, child stoning, anti women, virgin implanting, jealousy and revenge. It's also full of love, peace, respect, understanding and honor. Believe or don't believe, but dont belittle. " Where is the love? Drowning all the innocent babies on the planet bar one family? Hardening pharaohs heart so babies get killed? Killing tribes and keeping virgins by gods command? Nailing your self to a cross to forgive sins that you know man would commit? Abandon family to follow Jesus? Guessing you haven’t read the Bible? Worship me or die and live in pain forever is not really love is it? | |||
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"Was brought up with this religion and have always like Bible stories and movies .and church's old church service in Latin . And if you belive its your right to do so have a good easter shag and all here. Same, I was raised with Christianity and Christian values and while I choose another path I respect the Church and it's teachings. People have faith and beliefs for all reasons and for some their faith is all they have, tolerance is key, some might not agree with other peoples religions and beliefs but we can respect it and understand it had true meaning to some Christian Bible isn’t tolerant though. It’s full of hate, people owning as property, murder, child stoning, anti women, virgin implanting, jealousy and revenge. " Cool brah, I'll catch it on Netflix  | |||
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"Was brought up with this religion and have always like Bible stories and movies .and church's old church service in Latin . And if you belive its your right to do so have a good easter shag and all here. Same, I was raised with Christianity and Christian values and while I choose another path I respect the Church and it's teachings. People have faith and beliefs for all reasons and for some their faith is all they have, tolerance is key, some might not agree with other peoples religions and beliefs but we can respect it and understand it had true meaning to some Christian Bible isn’t tolerant though. It’s full of hate, people owning as property, murder, child stoning, anti women, virgin implanting, jealousy and revenge. FULL of hate etc.... are you sure While there are some bad things in there from years back, wouldnt say oy was full of it you do have a choice Yes it is full. And according to Jesus, the New Testament is not an updated version of the Old. He changes nothing of what was preached before. Look up Matt Delahunty on YouTube. An ex Baptist minister for over 20 years who now debates and knows the bible inside out. " Few more should listen to him and then try to excuse it | |||
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"Was brought up with this religion and have always like Bible stories and movies .and church's old church service in Latin . And if you belive its your right to do so have a good easter shag and all here. Same, I was raised with Christianity and Christian values and while I choose another path I respect the Church and it's teachings. People have faith and beliefs for all reasons and for some their faith is all they have, tolerance is key, some might not agree with other peoples religions and beliefs but we can respect it and understand it had true meaning to some Christian Bible isn’t tolerant though. It’s full of hate, people owning as property, murder, child stoning, anti women, virgin implanting, jealousy and revenge. It's also full of love, peace, respect, understanding and honor. Believe or don't believe, but dont belittle. " No one is belittling. That's a fall back when something someone believes is unquestionable is questioned... | |||
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"No, I don't really get involved in easter to be honest. I've always wondered why it changes date though. As it was a pagan celebration like Xmas, taken by the church to persuade the gullible. Like a Brexit of its day Get a grip (and its christmas) Happy easter to everyone whos celebrating and those who arent have a lovely weekend " Xmas Christmas! Still a pagan celebration taken over by church to spread the lies | |||
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"Was brought up with this religion and have always like Bible stories and movies .and church's old church service in Latin . And if you belive its your right to do so have a good easter shag and all here. Same, I was raised with Christianity and Christian values and while I choose another path I respect the Church and it's teachings. People have faith and beliefs for all reasons and for some their faith is all they have, tolerance is key, some might not agree with other peoples religions and beliefs but we can respect it and understand it had true meaning to some Christian Bible isn’t tolerant though. It’s full of hate, people owning as property, murder, child stoning, anti women, virgin implanting, jealousy and revenge. It's also full of love, peace, respect, understanding and honor. Believe or don't believe, but dont belittle. " He has an equal right to belittle as you do to believe. It's okay to disagree with cults. Especially when everyone of the so called holidays are just copy and pasted pagan holidays. Happily occurring around the same time to lessen the discomfort of those forcefully converted. How loving 
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"Was brought up with this religion and have always like Bible stories and movies .and church's old church service in Latin . And if you belive its your right to do so have a good easter shag and all here. Same, I was raised with Christianity and Christian values and while I choose another path I respect the Church and it's teachings. People have faith and beliefs for all reasons and for some their faith is all they have, tolerance is key, some might not agree with other peoples religions and beliefs but we can respect it and understand it had true meaning to some Christian Bible isn’t tolerant though. It’s full of hate, people owning as property, murder, child stoning, anti women, virgin implanting, jealousy and revenge. FULL of hate etc.... are you sure While there are some bad things in there from years back, wouldnt say oy was full of it you do have a choice Yes it is full. And according to Jesus, the New Testament is not an updated version of the Old. He changes nothing of what was preached before. Look up Matt Delahunty on YouTube. An ex Baptist minister for over 20 years who now debates and knows the bible inside out. Few more should listen to him and then try to excuse it " Yesssss | |||
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"Was brought up with this religion and have always like Bible stories and movies .and church's old church service in Latin . And if you belive its your right to do so have a good easter shag and all here. Same, I was raised with Christianity and Christian values and while I choose another path I respect the Church and it's teachings. People have faith and beliefs for all reasons and for some their faith is all they have, tolerance is key, some might not agree with other peoples religions and beliefs but we can respect it and understand it had true meaning to some Christian Bible isn’t tolerant though. It’s full of hate, people owning as property, murder, child stoning, anti women, virgin implanting, jealousy and revenge. FULL of hate etc.... are you sure While there are some bad things in there from years back, wouldnt say oy was full of it you do have a choice Yes it is full. And according to Jesus, the New Testament is not an updated version of the Old. He changes nothing of what was preached before. Look up Matt Delahunty on YouTube. An ex Baptist minister for over 20 years who now debates and knows the bible inside out. Few more should listen to him and then try to excuse it " Excuse what? | |||
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"Was brought up with this religion and have always like Bible stories and movies .and church's old church service in Latin . And if you belive its your right to do so have a good easter shag and all here. Same, I was raised with Christianity and Christian values and while I choose another path I respect the Church and it's teachings. People have faith and beliefs for all reasons and for some their faith is all they have, tolerance is key, some might not agree with other peoples religions and beliefs but we can respect it and understand it had true meaning to some Christian Bible isn’t tolerant though. It’s full of hate, people owning as property, murder, child stoning, anti women, virgin implanting, jealousy and revenge. FULL of hate etc.... are you sure While there are some bad things in there from years back, wouldnt say oy was full of it you do have a choice Yes it is full. And according to Jesus, the New Testament is not an updated version of the Old. He changes nothing of what was preached before. Look up Matt Delahunty on YouTube. An ex Baptist minister for over 20 years who now debates and knows the bible inside out. " You need to read my post again have a good weekend | |||
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"Was brought up with this religion and have always like Bible stories and movies .and church's old church service in Latin . And if you belive its your right to do so have a good easter shag and all here. Same, I was raised with Christianity and Christian values and while I choose another path I respect the Church and it's teachings. People have faith and beliefs for all reasons and for some their faith is all they have, tolerance is key, some might not agree with other peoples religions and beliefs but we can respect it and understand it had true meaning to some Christian Bible isn’t tolerant though. It’s full of hate, people owning as property, murder, child stoning, anti women, virgin implanting, jealousy and revenge. FULL of hate etc.... are you sure While there are some bad things in there from years back, wouldnt say oy was full of it you do have a choice Yes it is full. And according to Jesus, the New Testament is not an updated version of the Old. He changes nothing of what was preached before. Look up Matt Delahunty on YouTube. An ex Baptist minister for over 20 years who now debates and knows the bible inside out. Few more should listen to him and then try to excuse it Excuse what?" What the Bible says is truthful and moral. And that everything in it is justified. | |||
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"Was brought up with this religion and have always like Bible stories and movies .and church's old church service in Latin . And if you belive its your right to do so have a good easter shag and all here. Same, I was raised with Christianity and Christian values and while I choose another path I respect the Church and it's teachings. People have faith and beliefs for all reasons and for some their faith is all they have, tolerance is key, some might not agree with other peoples religions and beliefs but we can respect it and understand it had true meaning to some Christian Bible isn’t tolerant though. It’s full of hate, people owning as property, murder, child stoning, anti women, virgin implanting, jealousy and revenge. FULL of hate etc.... are you sure While there are some bad things in there from years back, wouldnt say oy was full of it you do have a choice Yes it is full. And according to Jesus, the New Testament is not an updated version of the Old. He changes nothing of what was preached before. Look up Matt Delahunty on YouTube. An ex Baptist minister for over 20 years who now debates and knows the bible inside out. Few more should listen to him and then try to excuse it Excuse what?" Baby killing. Owning people. Ordering worship or endless torture | |||
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"Was brought up with this religion and have always like Bible stories and movies .and church's old church service in Latin . And if you belive its your right to do so have a good easter shag and all here. Same, I was raised with Christianity and Christian values and while I choose another path I respect the Church and it's teachings. People have faith and beliefs for all reasons and for some their faith is all they have, tolerance is key, some might not agree with other peoples religions and beliefs but we can respect it and understand it had true meaning to some Christian Bible isn’t tolerant though. It’s full of hate, people owning as property, murder, child stoning, anti women, virgin implanting, jealousy and revenge. FULL of hate etc.... are you sure While there are some bad things in there from years back, wouldnt say oy was full of it you do have a choice Yes it is full. And according to Jesus, the New Testament is not an updated version of the Old. He changes nothing of what was preached before. Look up Matt Delahunty on YouTube. An ex Baptist minister for over 20 years who now debates and knows the bible inside out. Few more should listen to him and then try to excuse it Excuse what? Baby killing. Owning people. Ordering worship or endless torture " Baby killing ! According to the bible it was something carried out by Herrod, a evil ruler at the time The bible only wrote of it , it wasnt carried out by christians | |||
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"No, I don't really get involved in easter to be honest. I've always wondered why it changes date though. " It’s based on the lunar cycle, rather than the Gregorian calendar - ie every 4 weeks rather than calendar months | |||
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"Was brought up with this religion and have always like Bible stories and movies .and church's old church service in Latin . And if you belive its your right to do so have a good easter shag and all here. Same, I was raised with Christianity and Christian values and while I choose another path I respect the Church and it's teachings. People have faith and beliefs for all reasons and for some their faith is all they have, tolerance is key, some might not agree with other peoples religions and beliefs but we can respect it and understand it had true meaning to some Christian Bible isn’t tolerant though. It’s full of hate, people owning as property, murder, child stoning, anti women, virgin implanting, jealousy and revenge. FULL of hate etc.... are you sure While there are some bad things in there from years back, wouldnt say oy was full of it you do have a choice Yes it is full. And according to Jesus, the New Testament is not an updated version of the Old. He changes nothing of what was preached before. Look up Matt Delahunty on YouTube. An ex Baptist minister for over 20 years who now debates and knows the bible inside out. Few more should listen to him and then try to excuse it Excuse what? Baby killing. Owning people. Ordering worship or endless torture Baby killing ! According to the bible it was something carried out by Herrod, a evil ruler at the time The bible only wrote of it , it wasnt carried out by christians" Oh you forgot that god drowned every baby, child, pregnant women, well…everyone bar one family….??? | |||
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"Was brought up with this religion and have always like Bible stories and movies .and church's old church service in Latin . And if you belive its your right to do so have a good easter shag and all here. Same, I was raised with Christianity and Christian values and while I choose another path I respect the Church and it's teachings. People have faith and beliefs for all reasons and for some their faith is all they have, tolerance is key, some might not agree with other peoples religions and beliefs but we can respect it and understand it had true meaning to some Christian Bible isn’t tolerant though. It’s full of hate, people owning as property, murder, child stoning, anti women, virgin implanting, jealousy and revenge. FULL of hate etc.... are you sure While there are some bad things in there from years back, wouldnt say oy was full of it you do have a choice Yes it is full. And according to Jesus, the New Testament is not an updated version of the Old. He changes nothing of what was preached before. Look up Matt Delahunty on YouTube. An ex Baptist minister for over 20 years who now debates and knows the bible inside out. Few more should listen to him and then try to excuse it Excuse what? Baby killing. Owning people. Ordering worship or endless torture Baby killing ! According to the bible it was something carried out by Herrod, a evil ruler at the time The bible only wrote of it , it wasnt carried out by christians" Oh you forgot that god drowned every baby, child, pregnant women, well…everyone bar one family….??? PS…there weren’t any Christian’s! Lol | |||
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"Was brought up with this religion and have always like Bible stories and movies .and church's old church service in Latin . And if you belive its your right to do so have a good easter shag and all here. Same, I was raised with Christianity and Christian values and while I choose another path I respect the Church and it's teachings. People have faith and beliefs for all reasons and for some their faith is all they have, tolerance is key, some might not agree with other peoples religions and beliefs but we can respect it and understand it had true meaning to some Christian Bible isn’t tolerant though. It’s full of hate, people owning as property, murder, child stoning, anti women, virgin implanting, jealousy and revenge. FULL of hate etc.... are you sure While there are some bad things in there from years back, wouldnt say oy was full of it you do have a choice Yes it is full. And according to Jesus, the New Testament is not an updated version of the Old. He changes nothing of what was preached before. Look up Matt Delahunty on YouTube. An ex Baptist minister for over 20 years who now debates and knows the bible inside out. Few more should listen to him and then try to excuse it Excuse what? What the Bible says is truthful and moral. And that everything in it is justified. " But earlier in the thread you said "Even if I thought it was the truth, not a lover of the concept of a blood sacrifice. If He wanted to forgive man his sins, why not just do so?" So you don't think the Bible is truthful yet you're getting your knick knacks in a knot about it. | |||
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"I'm not particularly religious but anyone who is, I think that's so good for them. Yes it's all very difficult to believe but some religion has done excellent moral values and standards. Take the 10 commandments for instance. Onr of my best friends is religious and he has helped me so many times with his guidance and words, even though I don't fully believe in religion. He doesn't ever preach to me but will simply say a quote or a few words that make sense. Happy Easter to you whether you believe or don't." Take the 10? How many are any use? Don’t kill steal lie? Ok we knew this. Rest? Useless | |||
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"Was brought up with this religion and have always like Bible stories and movies .and church's old church service in Latin . And if you belive its your right to do so have a good easter shag and all here. Same, I was raised with Christianity and Christian values and while I choose another path I respect the Church and it's teachings. People have faith and beliefs for all reasons and for some their faith is all they have, tolerance is key, some might not agree with other peoples religions and beliefs but we can respect it and understand it had true meaning to some Christian Bible isn’t tolerant though. It’s full of hate, people owning as property, murder, child stoning, anti women, virgin implanting, jealousy and revenge. FULL of hate etc.... are you sure While there are some bad things in there from years back, wouldnt say oy was full of it you do have a choice Yes it is full. And according to Jesus, the New Testament is not an updated version of the Old. He changes nothing of what was preached before. Look up Matt Delahunty on YouTube. An ex Baptist minister for over 20 years who now debates and knows the bible inside out. Few more should listen to him and then try to excuse it Excuse what? What the Bible says is truthful and moral. And that everything in it is justified. But earlier in the thread you said "Even if I thought it was the truth, not a lover of the concept of a blood sacrifice. If He wanted to forgive man his sins, why not just do so?" So you don't think the Bible is truthful yet you're getting your knick knacks in a knot about it. " I'm not getting my knick knacks in a knot about it at all. I'm joining in a discussion about it when people air their view... I am right, this is a forum isn't it?!? | |||
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"Was brought up with this religion and have always like Bible stories and movies .and church's old church service in Latin . And if you belive its your right to do so have a good easter shag and all here. Same, I was raised with Christianity and Christian values and while I choose another path I respect the Church and it's teachings. People have faith and beliefs for all reasons and for some their faith is all they have, tolerance is key, some might not agree with other peoples religions and beliefs but we can respect it and understand it had true meaning to some Christian Bible isn’t tolerant though. It’s full of hate, people owning as property, murder, child stoning, anti women, virgin implanting, jealousy and revenge. FULL of hate etc.... are you sure While there are some bad things in there from years back, wouldnt say oy was full of it you do have a choice Yes it is full. And according to Jesus, the New Testament is not an updated version of the Old. He changes nothing of what was preached before. Look up Matt Delahunty on YouTube. An ex Baptist minister for over 20 years who now debates and knows the bible inside out. Few more should listen to him and then try to excuse it Excuse what? Baby killing. Owning people. Ordering worship or endless torture But you said further up the thread you didn't believe in any of it? So why continue it?" As people use it to control others. And say it’s moral! Uk head? Leaders of c of e. Takes our money. Moral? Nope sorry | |||
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"Was brought up with this religion and have always like Bible stories and movies .and church's old church service in Latin . And if you belive its your right to do so have a good easter shag and all here. Same, I was raised with Christianity and Christian values and while I choose another path I respect the Church and it's teachings. People have faith and beliefs for all reasons and for some their faith is all they have, tolerance is key, some might not agree with other peoples religions and beliefs but we can respect it and understand it had true meaning to some Christian Bible isn’t tolerant though. It’s full of hate, people owning as property, murder, child stoning, anti women, virgin implanting, jealousy and revenge. FULL of hate etc.... are you sure While there are some bad things in there from years back, wouldnt say oy was full of it you do have a choice Yes it is full. And according to Jesus, the New Testament is not an updated version of the Old. He changes nothing of what was preached before. Look up Matt Delahunty on YouTube. An ex Baptist minister for over 20 years who now debates and knows the bible inside out. Few more should listen to him and then try to excuse it Excuse what? Baby killing. Owning people. Ordering worship or endless torture Baby killing ! According to the bible it was something carried out by Herrod, a evil ruler at the time The bible only wrote of it , it wasnt carried out by christians Oh you forgot that god drowned every baby, child, pregnant women, well…everyone bar one family….???" Your hate of the bible and everything about it is quite staggering tbh, we could go on all day here As a earlier poster said - live and let live, have a good weekend | |||
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"Was brought up with this religion and have always like Bible stories and movies .and church's old church service in Latin . And if you belive its your right to do so have a good easter shag and all here. Same, I was raised with Christianity and Christian values and while I choose another path I respect the Church and it's teachings. People have faith and beliefs for all reasons and for some their faith is all they have, tolerance is key, some might not agree with other peoples religions and beliefs but we can respect it and understand it had true meaning to some Christian Bible isn’t tolerant though. It’s full of hate, people owning as property, murder, child stoning, anti women, virgin implanting, jealousy and revenge. FULL of hate etc.... are you sure While there are some bad things in there from years back, wouldnt say oy was full of it you do have a choice Yes it is full. And according to Jesus, the New Testament is not an updated version of the Old. He changes nothing of what was preached before. Look up Matt Delahunty on YouTube. An ex Baptist minister for over 20 years who now debates and knows the bible inside out. Few more should listen to him and then try to excuse it Excuse what? What the Bible says is truthful and moral. And that everything in it is justified. But earlier in the thread you said "Even if I thought it was the truth, not a lover of the concept of a blood sacrifice. If He wanted to forgive man his sins, why not just do so?" So you don't think the Bible is truthful yet you're getting your knick knacks in a knot about it. I'm not getting my knick knacks in a knot about it at all. I'm joining in a discussion about it when people air their view... I am right, this is a forum isn't it?!?" A lot of discussion about something you don't believe...Right you are | |||
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So just to be clear, those who don't believe in something shouldn't be able to discuss it?
This is not the sort of gagging I enjoy. "Not at all, discussions are great when each one can learn off one another but shouting down something that you don't believe in the first place negates any true discussion anyway And that is me done. Apologies to Shag for adding to the shit show. The thread was started with good intentions | |||
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So just to be clear, those who don't believe in something shouldn't be able to discuss it?
This is not the sort of gagging I enjoy.
Not at all, discussions are great when each one can learn off one another but shouting down something that you don't believe in the first place negates any true discussion anyway
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"Today starts easter and it is a big celebration in christianity, today marks the crucifixion of jesus, are you celebrating and thinking of him? I am
It was a big thing for my mum. So its become a bit of a tradition for me. I like traditions. Not huge on faith but for this specofic event, the romans crucified thousands in that time period so his crucifixion is quite possible.
For those who believe and draw comfort from your beliefs. Have a nice easter weekend. "But this tradition was pagan. So no need to bring torture and mutilation and blood sacrifice in to a joyous tradition. Traditionally speaking ! | |||
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"Today starts easter and it is a big celebration in christianity, today marks the crucifixion of jesus, are you celebrating and thinking of him? I am
It was a big thing for my mum. So its become a bit of a tradition for me. I like traditions. Not huge on faith but for this specofic event, the romans crucified thousands in that time period so his crucifixion is quite possible.
For those who believe and draw comfort from your beliefs. Have a nice easter weekend.
But this tradition was pagan. So no need to bring torture and mutilation and blood sacrifice in to a joyous tradition. Traditionally speaking !"Not sure what tradition youre on about. Mine is my families tradition. And we wont be doing any torture or blood sacrifice. | |||
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"Today starts easter and it is a big celebration in christianity, today marks the crucifixion of jesus, are you celebrating and thinking of him? I am
It was a big thing for my mum. So its become a bit of a tradition for me. I like traditions. Not huge on faith but for this specofic event, the romans crucified thousands in that time period so his crucifixion is quite possible.
For those who believe and draw comfort from your beliefs. Have a nice easter weekend. "This | |||
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"Today starts easter and it is a big celebration in christianity, today marks the crucifixion of jesus, are you celebrating and thinking of him? I am
It was a big thing for my mum. So its become a bit of a tradition for me. I like traditions. Not huge on faith but for this specofic event, the romans crucified thousands in that time period so his crucifixion is quite possible.
For those who believe and draw comfort from your beliefs. Have a nice easter weekend.
But this tradition was pagan. So no need to bring torture and mutilation and blood sacrifice in to a joyous tradition. Traditionally speaking !"What is it you think you are achieving by picking apart someones traditions with the loved ones that are now gone? How does it impact or harm you in anyway to let them enjoy their long weekend in any way they wish? You don’t need to have a faith to want to be a decent human being yet right now you seem to be hoping to get a kick out of tearing down part of others identity Oh and for the record i used to be catholic , now an atheist , but dont feel the need for the hatred you seem to have | |||
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"Today starts easter and it is a big celebration in christianity, today marks the crucifixion of jesus, are you celebrating and thinking of him? I am
It was a big thing for my mum. So its become a bit of a tradition for me. I like traditions. Not huge on faith but for this specofic event, the romans crucified thousands in that time period so his crucifixion is quite possible.
For those who believe and draw comfort from your beliefs. Have a nice easter weekend.
But this tradition was pagan. So no need to bring torture and mutilation and blood sacrifice in to a joyous tradition. Traditionally speaking !
What is it you think you are achieving by picking apart someones traditions with the loved ones that are now gone?
How does it impact or harm you in anyway to let them enjoy their long weekend in any way they wish?
You don’t need to have a faith to want to be a decent human being yet right now you seem to be hoping to get a kick out of tearing down part of others identity
Oh and for the record i used to be catholic , now an atheist , but dont feel the need for the hatred you seem to have "It's a regular thing | |||
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"Was brought up with this religion and have always like Bible stories and movies .and church's old church service in Latin . And if you belive its your right to do so have a good easter shag and all here. Same, I was raised with Christianity and Christian values and while I choose another path I respect the Church and it's teachings. People have faith and beliefs for all reasons and for some their faith is all they have, tolerance is key, some might not agree with other peoples religions and beliefs but we can respect it and understand it had true meaning to some Christian Bible isn’t tolerant though. It’s full of hate, people owning as property, murder, child stoning, anti women, virgin implanting, jealousy and revenge. FULL of hate etc.... are you sure While there are some bad things in there from years back, wouldnt say oy was full of it you do have a choice Yes it is full. And according to Jesus, the New Testament is not an updated version of the Old. He changes nothing of what was preached before. Look up Matt Delahunty on YouTube. An ex Baptist minister for over 20 years who now debates and knows the bible inside out. Few more should listen to him and then try to excuse it Excuse what? Baby killing. Owning people. Ordering worship or endless torture Baby killing ! According to the bible it was something carried out by Herrod, a evil ruler at the time The bible only wrote of it , it wasnt carried out by christians Oh you forgot that god drowned every baby, child, pregnant women, well…everyone bar one family….???" If you don't believe in the Bible surely you don't believe God drowned every baby, child, pregnant women, everyone bar one family? I do like a theological discussion. | |||
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"I knew this was going to get controversial! I think that the reason people are replying negatively is because the original post is preachy. Most people are not religious and don't believe in gods. I think it better that if religious people want to preach, that's fine, do it in your own time and place, but not on a forum which isn't for religious proclamations. Wheres the preachy bit in the op? Stating Easter celebrates Jesus being killed. It’s not a fact by a long way. Actually, and I'm not religious at all, but the historical consensus is crucifixion of Jesus did happen. It's the belief system built around it one can object to." Sorry. No historical account of a son of god and crucifivtion. None whatsoever. Great writes and diarists at the time. Not one thought to write about it. | |||
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"I Wheres the preachy bit in the op? Stating Easter celebrates Jesus being killed. It’s not a fact by a long way. " Exactly this. People stating faith-based beliefs as actual facts. That is preaching. | |||
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"All the haters start your own thread and leave people to have their beliefs without belittling them Happy easter everyone" Quite so. There was a ramadam thread a while ago, with nothing but respectful wishes from posters. No haters on that, but plenty on this thread. I wonder why people think it's ok they can take a dump on Christian beliefs but shy away from doing it on muslim ones? Because they're cowards is my guess. | |||
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"I'm not particularly religious but anyone who is, I think that's so good for them. Yes it's all very difficult to believe but some religion has done excellent moral values and standards. Take the 10 commandments for instance. Onr of my best friends is religious and he has helped me so many times with his guidance and words, even though I don't fully believe in religion. He doesn't ever preach to me but will simply say a quote or a few words that make sense. Happy Easter to you whether you believe or don't." Yes. Take the 10 commandments and rip them up. I doubt most people could recall or define them ..... sudden rush of people to Google them. Me ? I don't covet anyone's Ox ... nor anyone's wife nor do I worship Gods or Idols. | |||
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"OP made a statement followed by a question and then gave his own answer. I don't think it's preachy at all... "Today starts easter and it is a big celebration in christianity, today marks the crucifixion of jesus, are you celebrating and thinking of him? I am" Yes this place is open for everyone to comment but some of them over stepped and are derailing the thread. They are continuing the negativity instead of taking their views to their own thread, but that wouldn't work would it, coz they clearly like to provoke. Two bulls, are you in disguise????? "Completely agree, didn't feel it was preachy at all!! Also well he did say he had a single profile..... | |||
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"I knew this was going to get controversial! I think that the reason people are replying negatively is because the original post is preachy. Most people are not religious and don't believe in gods. I think it better that if religious people want to preach, that's fine, do it in your own time and place, but not on a forum which isn't for religious proclamations. Wheres the preachy bit in the op? Stating Easter celebrates Jesus being killed. It’s not a fact by a long way. Actually, and I'm not religious at all, but the historical consensus is crucifixion of Jesus did happen. It's the belief system built around it one can object to." It's a common myth that it's been verified historically. It's also untrue. | |||
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"OP made a statement followed by a question and then gave his own answer. I don't think it's preachy at all... "Today starts easter and it is a big celebration in christianity, today marks the crucifixion of jesus, are you celebrating and thinking of him? I am" Yes this place is open for everyone to comment but some of them over stepped and are derailing the thread. They are continuing the negativity instead of taking their views to their own thread, but that wouldn't work would it, coz they clearly like to provoke. Two bulls, are you in disguise????? "Well you say that is if nailing a guy in agony to wood is positive. To then say if yo don’t believe you will spend all eternity on fire. Positive? Also states it marks Easter as jests death. Rally it was pagan celebration. So not positive and not true | |||
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"No, I don't really get involved in easter to be honest. I've always wondered why it changes date though. " The simple standard definition of Easter is that it is the first Sunday after the full Moon that occurs on or after the spring equinox. If the full Moon falls on a Sunday then Easter is the next Sunday. | |||
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"I knew this was going to get controversial! I think that the reason people are replying negatively is because the original post is preachy. Most people are not religious and don't believe in gods. I think it better that if religious people want to preach, that's fine, do it in your own time and place, but not on a forum which isn't for religious proclamations. Wheres the preachy bit in the op? Stating Easter celebrates Jesus being killed. It’s not a fact by a long way. " Thats really not what he wrote at all. But then youve come to preach how much you disagree. | |||
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"I knew this was going to get controversial! I think that the reason people are replying negatively is because the original post is preachy. Most people are not religious and don't believe in gods. I think it better that if religious people want to preach, that's fine, do it in your own time and place, but not on a forum which isn't for religious proclamations. Wheres the preachy bit in the op? Stating Easter celebrates Jesus being killed. It’s not a fact by a long way. Actually, and I'm not religious at all, but the historical consensus is crucifixion of Jesus did happen. It's the belief system built around it one can object to. Sorry. No historical account of a son of god and crucifivtion. None whatsoever. Great writes and diarists at the time. Not one thought to write about it. " I didn't say 'son of god'. That's the belief system I was talking about. But the crucifixion is a different issue, and actually quite a lot of ancient records do talk about it. That's how historians have reached a broad consensus. | |||
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"I knew this was going to get controversial! I think that the reason people are replying negatively is because the original post is preachy. Most people are not religious and don't believe in gods. I think it better that if religious people want to preach, that's fine, do it in your own time and place, but not on a forum which isn't for religious proclamations. Wheres the preachy bit in the op? Stating Easter celebrates Jesus being killed. It’s not a fact by a long way. Actually, and I'm not religious at all, but the historical consensus is crucifixion of Jesus did happen. It's the belief system built around it one can object to. Sorry. No historical account of a son of god and crucifivtion. None whatsoever. Great writes and diarists at the time. Not one thought to write about it. I didn't say 'son of god'. That's the belief system I was talking about. But the crucifixion is a different issue, and actually quite a lot of ancient records do talk about it. That's how historians have reached a broad consensus." How many of them can you name? How many of them rely on each other? | |||
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"OP made a statement followed by a question and then gave his own answer. I don't think it's preachy at all... "Today starts easter and it is a big celebration in christianity, today marks the crucifixion of jesus, are you celebrating and thinking of him? I am" Yes this place is open for everyone to comment but some of them over stepped and are derailing the thread. They are continuing the negativity instead of taking their views to their own thread, but that wouldn't work would it, coz they clearly like to provoke. Two bulls, are you in disguise?????
Well you say that is if nailing a guy in agony to wood is positive. To then say if yo don’t believe you will spend all eternity on fire. Positive? Also states it marks Easter as jests death. Rally it was pagan celebration. So not positive and not true"Considering there are no written records of "pagan" celebrations and the fact that the Gregorian calendar wasn't even introduced until 1582, your references to "pagan" celebrations at specific times is just nonsense. The vast majority of it was made up by Victorian yahoos in the 19th century. | |||
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"Popcorn on standby lol....op ...hope you have a lovely Easter " My stance is that people can believe as they choose. But making up history is another matter. | |||
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"OP made a statement followed by a question and then gave his own answer. I don't think it's preachy at all... "Today starts easter and it is a big celebration in christianity, today marks the crucifixion of jesus, are you celebrating and thinking of him? I am" Yes this place is open for everyone to comment but some of them over stepped and are derailing the thread. They are continuing the negativity instead of taking their views to their own thread, but that wouldn't work would it, coz they clearly like to provoke. Two bulls, are you in disguise?????
Well you say that is if nailing a guy in agony to wood is positive. To then say if yo don’t believe you will spend all eternity on fire. Positive? Also states it marks Easter as jests death. Rally it was pagan celebration. So not positive and not true"Your too over the top, wrapped up in taking every sentence and twisting turning it into your own shit, there's sarcasm and then there's that way of responding. | |||
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Well you say that is if nailing a guy in agony to wood is positive. To then say if yo don’t believe you will spend all eternity on fire. Positive? Also states it marks Easter as jests death. Rally it was pagan celebration. So not positive and not true
Considering there are no written records of "pagan" celebrations and the fact that the Gregorian calendar wasn't even introduced until 1582, your references to "pagan" celebrations at specific times is just nonsense. The vast majority of it was made up by Victorian yahoos in the 19th century."The Romans adapted local traditions as part of their conquest beginning way before the introduction of Christianity as part of their imperialism. Other calendars existed and we can pretty accurately estimate dates based on these and other historical/archaeological cues. Written evidence is not the only way that historians determine what likely happened in the past, unless they have a pretty specific agenda - which usually invalidates their work. | |||
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"I knew this was going to get controversial! I think that the reason people are replying negatively is because the original post is preachy. Most people are not religious and don't believe in gods. I think it better that if religious people want to preach, that's fine, do it in your own time and place, but not on a forum which isn't for religious proclamations. Wheres the preachy bit in the op? Stating Easter celebrates Jesus being killed. It’s not a fact by a long way. Actually, and I'm not religious at all, but the historical consensus is crucifixion of Jesus did happen. It's the belief system built around it one can object to. Sorry. No historical account of a son of god and crucifivtion. None whatsoever. Great writes and diarists at the time. Not one thought to write about it. I didn't say 'son of god'. That's the belief system I was talking about. But the crucifixion is a different issue, and actually quite a lot of ancient records do talk about it. That's how historians have reached a broad consensus. How many of them can you name? How many of them rely on each other?" I've only read James Dunn (obviously not an ancient source!). I'm not claiming to be an expert on ancient history by any stretch, so very happy to be corrected, but I didn't think the fact a man called Jesus lived and died that way was disputed. | |||
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"I knew this was going to get controversial! I think that the reason people are replying negatively is because the original post is preachy. Most people are not religious and don't believe in gods. I think it better that if religious people want to preach, that's fine, do it in your own time and place, but not on a forum which isn't for religious proclamations. Wheres the preachy bit in the op? Stating Easter celebrates Jesus being killed. It’s not a fact by a long way. Actually, and I'm not religious at all, but the historical consensus is crucifixion of Jesus did happen. It's the belief system built around it one can object to. Sorry. No historical account of a son of god and crucifivtion. None whatsoever. Great writes and diarists at the time. Not one thought to write about it. I didn't say 'son of god'. That's the belief system I was talking about. But the crucifixion is a different issue, and actually quite a lot of ancient records do talk about it. That's how historians have reached a broad consensus. How many of them can you name? How many of them rely on each other? I've only read James Dunn (obviously not an ancient source!). I'm not claiming to be an expert on ancient history by any stretch, so very happy to be corrected, but I didn't think the fact a man called Jesus lived and died that way was disputed." Well apparently you don't need written records to prove it any more. | |||
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"Some people are really quite unnecessarily unpleasant on here. Bizarre behaviour. Discussion is great. passion is great. Insulting others and their beliefs is not big and its not clever. I don't believe it therefore im going to take the piss and insult you. Be better. " Where are the insults? Somebody did insult me for stating facts but then deleted. It is usually the believers who insult as pointing out facts seems to upset them. Like saying god drowned babies according to their bible comes as a shock. Not to mention it never really happened and Easter was pagan. Bizarre | |||
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"I knew this was going to get controversial! I think that the reason people are replying negatively is because the original post is preachy. Most people are not religious and don't believe in gods. I think it better that if religious people want to preach, that's fine, do it in your own time and place, but not on a forum which isn't for religious proclamations. Wheres the preachy bit in the op? Stating Easter celebrates Jesus being killed. It’s not a fact by a long way. Actually, and I'm not religious at all, but the historical consensus is crucifixion of Jesus did happen. It's the belief system built around it one can object to. Sorry. No historical account of a son of god and crucifivtion. None whatsoever. Great writes and diarists at the time. Not one thought to write about it. I didn't say 'son of god'. That's the belief system I was talking about. But the crucifixion is a different issue, and actually quite a lot of ancient records do talk about it. That's how historians have reached a broad consensus. How many of them can you name? How many of them rely on each other? I've only read James Dunn (obviously not an ancient source!). I'm not claiming to be an expert on ancient history by any stretch, so very happy to be corrected, but I didn't think the fact a man called Jesus lived and died that way was disputed. Well apparently you don't need written records to prove it any more. " Very much disputed from the name Jesus itself, many variations. Only thing we know almost for certain is people claiming to be son of gods got killed | |||
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"Today starts easter and it is a big celebration in christianity, today marks the crucifixion of jesus, are you celebrating and thinking of him? I am ". I will be thinking of the reasons we celebrate Easter and will also celebrate Easter in the Gregorian calendar for Western Christians which this weekend and Easter Monday.Next week is the Easter in the Julian calendar which is for Orthodox and I will celebrate that as well as I am Orthodox.I will have a Easter egg on both Easter Sunday that way I hope I am not upsetting one calendar over the other.Xristos Aensti as we say Christ has risen | |||
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"I knew this was going to get controversial! I think that the reason people are replying negatively is because the original post is preachy. Most people are not religious and don't believe in gods. I think it better that if religious people want to preach, that's fine, do it in your own time and place, but not on a forum which isn't for religious proclamations. Wheres the preachy bit in the op? Stating Easter celebrates Jesus being killed. It’s not a fact by a long way. Actually, and I'm not religious at all, but the historical consensus is crucifixion of Jesus did happen. It's the belief system built around it one can object to. Sorry. No historical account of a son of god and crucifivtion. None whatsoever. Great writes and diarists at the time. Not one thought to write about it. I didn't say 'son of god'. That's the belief system I was talking about. But the crucifixion is a different issue, and actually quite a lot of ancient records do talk about it. That's how historians have reached a broad consensus. How many of them can you name? How many of them rely on each other? I've only read James Dunn (obviously not an ancient source!). I'm not claiming to be an expert on ancient history by any stretch, so very happy to be corrected, but I didn't think the fact a man called Jesus lived and died that way was disputed. Well apparently you don't need written records to prove it any more. " Historians use archaeological records FFS. This isn't hard. For example. In classical Athens there were written records of a device used for jury* selection. From context and the grammar of the word, they thought it was some sort of maze. Which is a hilarious image. Then archaeologists found the damn thing. It was a little device that rolled balls around, like a lottery machine, operated by an official owned by the city. * This is an imprecise translation that will do | |||
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"Today starts easter and it is a big celebration in christianity, today marks the crucifixion of jesus, are you celebrating and thinking of him? I am . I will be thinking of the reasons we celebrate Easter and will also celebrate Easter in the Gregorian calendar for Western Christians which this weekend and Easter Monday.Next week is the Easter in the Julian calendar which is for Orthodox and I will celebrate that as well as I am Orthodox.I will have a Easter egg on both Easter Sunday that way I hope I am not upsetting one calendar over the other.Xristos Aensti as we say Christ has risen "Risen? | |||
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"No, I don't really get involved in easter to be honest. I've always wondered why it changes date though. As it was a pagan celebration like Xmas, taken by the church to persuade the gullible. Like a Brexit of its day Dude. Live and let live Unlike Christians forcing this nonsense on us? Oh ok. " What you might view as nonsense can bring sanctuary to others, that’s called faith. | |||
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"I knew this was going to get controversial! I think that the reason people are replying negatively is because the original post is preachy. Most people are not religious and don't believe in gods. I think it better that if religious people want to preach, that's fine, do it in your own time and place, but not on a forum which isn't for religious proclamations. Wheres the preachy bit in the op? Stating Easter celebrates Jesus being killed. It’s not a fact by a long way. Actually, and I'm not religious at all, but the historical consensus is crucifixion of Jesus did happen. It's the belief system built around it one can object to. Sorry. No historical account of a son of god and crucifivtion. None whatsoever. Great writes and diarists at the time. Not one thought to write about it. I didn't say 'son of god'. That's the belief system I was talking about. But the crucifixion is a different issue, and actually quite a lot of ancient records do talk about it. That's how historians have reached a broad consensus. How many of them can you name? How many of them rely on each other? I've only read James Dunn (obviously not an ancient source!). I'm not claiming to be an expert on ancient history by any stretch, so very happy to be corrected, but I didn't think the fact a man called Jesus lived and died that way was disputed." I will claim that expertise, although in a different part of the ancient world. The usual arguments are Tacitus (which mentions Christians), Josephus (from context cues this is likely a forgery - Josephus was Jewish, and the terminology he uses is not in line with what a Jewish person at the time would have said), and the Bible. Some people claim that every person who is named in the stories of the Bible is an independent source, which is (I'll use a technical term) horse shit. There are textual clues within the Gospels that most or all of them (off the top of my head) rely upon one another, making them not independent sources, and it's generally established that they are not contemporary accounts (which would be a better thing). How independent are advocates for a religion? By which I mean, can we truly trust the Gospels as objective sources? In addition, in the leadup to the Council of Nicea, there were significant purges of documents from the historical record, some of which had very different accounts of the life and times of Jesus. So what we have is what the powerful at the time decided was true based on their own ideology. Given the mess of it (and this is my opinion as an expert straying out of her area, which is ancient Greece) - what I can conclude solidly about the life of Jesus comes from the barest scraps. There are some things there's no point in questioning because they make sense in the broader context and are mundane as fuck. So if a record showed up saying Pericles drank diluted wine (as was nearly universal)- yeah no shit Sherlock. Accept without looking into it. On the basis of that miniscule standard of evidence - someone called (appropriate Hebrew version of) Jesus, son of (ditto) Joseph existed. Joseph was probably a carpenter, those existed. There were lots of roaming Jewish preachers claiming that the apocalypse was coming. So that's probably true. Everything else is up for interpretation and is pretty thin. | |||
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"Today starts easter and it is a big celebration in christianity, today marks the crucifixion of jesus, are you celebrating and thinking of him? I am "No, I don't believe. I Do enjoy the time off, spent with family and the chocolate. | |||
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"I knew this was going to get controversial! I think that the reason people are replying negatively is because the original post is preachy. Most people are not religious and don't believe in gods. I think it better that if religious people want to preach, that's fine, do it in your own time and place, but not on a forum which isn't for religious proclamations. Wheres the preachy bit in the op? Stating Easter celebrates Jesus being killed. It’s not a fact by a long way. Actually, and I'm not religious at all, but the historical consensus is crucifixion of Jesus did happen. It's the belief system built around it one can object to. Sorry. No historical account of a son of god and crucifivtion. None whatsoever. Great writes and diarists at the time. Not one thought to write about it. I didn't say 'son of god'. That's the belief system I was talking about. But the crucifixion is a different issue, and actually quite a lot of ancient records do talk about it. That's how historians have reached a broad consensus. How many of them can you name? How many of them rely on each other? I've only read James Dunn (obviously not an ancient source!). I'm not claiming to be an expert on ancient history by any stretch, so very happy to be corrected, but I didn't think the fact a man called Jesus lived and died that way was disputed. I will claim that expertise, although in a different part of the ancient world. The usual arguments are Tacitus (which mentions Christians), Josephus (from context cues this is likely a forgery - Josephus was Jewish, and the terminology he uses is not in line with what a Jewish person at the time would have said), and the Bible. Some people claim that every person who is named in the stories of the Bible is an independent source, which is (I'll use a technical term) horse shit. There are textual clues within the Gospels that most or all of them (off the top of my head) rely upon one another, making them not independent sources, and it's generally established that they are not contemporary accounts (which would be a better thing). How independent are advocates for a religion? By which I mean, can we truly trust the Gospels as objective sources? In addition, in the leadup to the Council of Nicea, there were significant purges of documents from the historical record, some of which had very different accounts of the life and times of Jesus. So what we have is what the powerful at the time decided was true based on their own ideology. Given the mess of it (and this is my opinion as an expert straying out of her area, which is ancient Greece) - what I can conclude solidly about the life of Jesus comes from the barest scraps. There are some things there's no point in questioning because they make sense in the broader context and are mundane as fuck. So if a record showed up saying Pericles drank diluted wine (as was nearly universal)- yeah no shit Sherlock. Accept without looking into it. On the basis of that miniscule standard of evidence - someone called (appropriate Hebrew version of) Jesus, son of (ditto) Joseph existed. Joseph was probably a carpenter, those existed. There were lots of roaming Jewish preachers claiming that the apocalypse was coming. So that's probably true. Everything else is up for interpretation and is pretty thin." Yep !!! | |||
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"I knew this was going to get controversial! I think that the reason people are replying negatively is because the original post is preachy. Most people are not religious and don't believe in gods. I think it better that if religious people want to preach, that's fine, do it in your own time and place, but not on a forum which isn't for religious proclamations. The op made an observation in his own time on his own post.... It's like many say if a person doesn't like something can just pass by I don't care what people believe so long as they don't try to force it on others, some people think what I follow is very much out there but, if you post on a public forum, you are inviting comments which might reflect opposing opinions, especialy when it comes to faith and polotics. It's not one persons forum and when someone post, they have made it public.
This is part of the freedom of expression we have.
Whatever your belief, stay safe and enjoy whatever makes you happy."I understand you and it's a lovely way to think. Nothing was forced on anyone by the op but seems like many have turned things around into something more being negative should a person be more respected because they disbelief than one who believes nope | |||
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