FabSwingers.com forum: BBW

By *acdoodle OP Man
over a year ago

Birmingham

This is NOT aimed to cause any sort of offence to anybody. Before I get called all the names under the sun

I have nothin against the BBW but what's the thoughts on it glamourising a unhealthy lifestyle in the the times of NHS crisis. Xx

Here goes. I'm going to hide

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In what ways does BBW glamourise it ?

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By *acdoodle OP Man
over a year ago

Birmingham

"In what ways does BBW glamourise it ?"

Maybe glamourise was the wrong word. I meant there seems to be a whole BBW "scene" as everyone has there own tastes in women I understand that. That's what I meant by glamourising

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People having a preference to larger ladies (and men) isnt a new thing thing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In what ways does BBW glamourise it ?

Maybe glamourise was the wrong word. I meant there seems to be a whole BBW "scene" as everyone has there own tastes in women I understand that. That's what I meant by glamourising

So are saying a big woman can't be beautiful?

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By *acdoodle OP Man
over a year ago

Birmingham

"People having a preference to larger ladies (and men) isnt a new thing thing

I know

but does it promote an unhealthy lifestyle? X

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By *acdoodle OP Man
over a year ago

Birmingham

"In what ways does BBW glamourise it ?

Maybe glamourise was the wrong word. I meant there seems to be a whole BBW "scene" as everyone has there own tastes in women I understand that. That's what I meant by glamourising

So are saying a big woman can't be beautiful?

Read the first post

I'm not suggesting for one moment that big women can't be beautiful. Im saying does it promote an unhealthy lifestyle? X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't think it does. I'm a big(ish) girl and get lots of attention, however, I still want to lose weight. I don't sit and think, oh well men like the way I am so i might as well have another cake. I want to lose weight due to the way I feel about myself and not how others see me.if that makes sense!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In what ways does BBW glamourise it ?

Maybe glamourise was the wrong word. I meant there seems to be a whole BBW "scene" as everyone has there own tastes in women I understand that. That's what I meant by glamourising

So are saying a big woman can't be beautiful?

Read the first post

I'm not suggesting for one moment that big women can't be beautiful. Im saying does it promote an unhealthy lifestyle? X"

So what do you suggest an appropriate name would be out of interest?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So what you are saying is no matter how beautiful, big women are unhealthy and a strain on the NHS in the current financial climes?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't think it does. I'm a big(ish) girl and get lots of attention, however, I still want to lose weight. I don't sit and think, oh well men like the way I am so i might as well have another cake. I want to lose weight due to the way I feel about myself and not how others see me.if that makes sense!!

exactly how I feel

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In what ways does BBW glamourise it ?

Maybe glamourise was the wrong word. I meant there seems to be a whole BBW "scene" as everyone has there own tastes in women I understand that. That's what I meant by glamourising

So what other word or term would you use other than 'glamourise' then ?

Do you think that if someone is attracted to fat people they will stop being attracted to them because the NHS is in crisis ?

Do you think that if someone is attracted to fat people they will stop being attracted to them if no 'scene' exists ?

If the answer to either is 'yes' then you are delusional !

The 'scene' as such is a function of and response to wider ignorance.

It is (is in the main) NOT a driving force for people wanting to be fat and staying that way.

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By *acdoodle OP Man
over a year ago

Birmingham

"In what ways does BBW glamourise it ?

Maybe glamourise was the wrong word. I meant there seems to be a whole BBW "scene" as everyone has there own tastes in women I understand that. That's what I meant by glamourising

So what other word or term would you use other than 'glamourise' then ?

Do you think that if someone is attracted to fat people they will stop being attracted to them because the NHS is in crisis ?

Do you think that if someone is attracted to fat people they will stop being attracted to them if no 'scene' exists ?

If the answer to either is 'yes' then you are delusional !

The 'scene' as such is a function of and response to wider ignorance.

It is (is in the main) NOT a driving force for people wanting to be fat and staying that way.

But does it encourage people to stay larger when they know the health problems it may cause to them? X

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By *acdoodle OP Man
over a year ago

Birmingham

Makes total sense

this thread is going to throw up a shit storm hahaha x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But does it encourage people to stay larger when they know the health problems it may cause to them? X"

Fat people don't need excuses or reasons or indeed motivation to stay fat

There are, of course, exceptions to that general statement

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In what ways does BBW glamourise it ?

Maybe glamourise was the wrong word. I meant there seems to be a whole BBW "scene" as everyone has there own tastes in women I understand that. That's what I meant by glamourising

So are saying a big woman can't be beautiful?

Read the first post

I'm not suggesting for one moment that big women can't be beautiful. Im saying does it promote an unhealthy lifestyle? X"
At the end of the day not everyone wish to be slim ... Some are happy with how thay look and that's it really if your happy in own skin that's all that matters .. not what other think ..

and why should people nice looking who dress well and lovely smile be glam and beautiful just like the rest no matter of size.?. God some who are so slim look half dead . Its about whats right for you ... and lifes far to short to be unhappy IN YOUR OWN SKIN.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i used to be a bigish girl i stopped eatin junk and have dropped a stone and a half along with power walking everynite with the dog no such thing as sayin it can,t be done just don,t eat the cake simples lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Makes total sense

this thread is going to throw up a shit storm hahaha x"

It will only throw up a shit storm if you want it to and tailor responses with leading or inflammatory comments

Generally most annoyance is generated when someone shows ignorance, a lack of understanding and an appreciation of the subject they have chosen to discuss.

At the moment, you are doing well at demonstrating all 3.

Why not sit back and allow those who actually do understand it to educate you ?

Or is it a case of 'I've made my mind up, now don't confuse me with the facts' ?

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville

"This is NOT aimed to cause any sort of offence to anybody. Before I get called all the names under the sun

I have nothin against the BBW but what's the thoughts on it glamourising a unhealthy lifestyle in the the times of NHS crisis. Xx

Here goes. I'm going to hide

xx"
Can i ask the OP where he thinks its glamorised? Also what about the ping ping addicts that dont cook anything but microwave meals , smoke 20 a day and get no exercise? There are plenty of them that arent classed as BBWs, this will always be a contentious issue, but i will say this i kinda understand what the OP is trying to say.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Gosh you are brave!

Personally I see no correlation, there are many types of unfit people, and overweight people are just the tip of the iceberg.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And not all who are fat eat to much ... health things and depression can play a part too ..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i thought the OP meant BBW is beautiful to some but there are underlying health issues with being overweight

or something like that

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville

"i thought the OP meant BBW is beautiful to some but there are underlying health issues with being overweight

or something like that "
What i thought also.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Women (and indeed people in general) dont CHOOSE to be fat...I myself have suffered with anorexia in my younger years, and have now gone to the other extreme of being a size 24 in my latter years...yes I eat too much, yes i could excercise more, but to willingly stay like this because im a niche market is a ridiculous idea. People are fat for many reasons...some psychological...others through health conditions...women of my age who have had hysterectomy's tend to become a certain shape after they have had everything removed...so in answer to your question, nobody stays fat for the glamour, they just make the best of what they have got

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"i thought the OP meant BBW is beautiful to some but there are underlying health issues with being overweight

or something like that What i thought also.

I don't think that this a notion that has escaped BBW's or those that seek them

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville

"i thought the OP meant BBW is beautiful to some but there are underlying health issues with being overweight

or something like that What i thought also.

I don't think that this a notion that has escaped BBW's or those that seek them "
Its good of you Bussy to be the spokesperson, but as you well know threads like this can often get outta hand, there will always be some that get on their high horse.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"i thought the OP meant BBW is beautiful to some but there are underlying health issues with being overweight

or something like that What i thought also.

I don't think that this a notion that has escaped BBW's or those that seek them Its good of you Bussy to be the spokesperson, but as you well know threads like this can often get outta hand, there will always be some that get on their high horse.

I know - I need to get some work done

I'm just waiting for someone far more irrational to take over the reins

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"i thought the OP meant BBW is beautiful to some but there are underlying health issues with being overweight

or something like that What i thought also.

And me

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville

"i thought the OP meant BBW is beautiful to some but there are underlying health issues with being overweight

or something like that What i thought also.

I know - I need to get some work done

I'm just waiting for someone far more irrational to take over the reins

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Im sure you wont be short of offers

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By *Ryan-Man
over a year ago

In Your Bush

"i used to be a bigish girl i stopped eatin junk and have dropped a stone and a half along with power walking everynite with the dog no such thing as sayin it can,t be done just don,t eat the cake simples lol "

Bet it is hilarious to watch your dog pump his arms and wiggle his ass

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Women (and indeed people in general) dont CHOOSE to be fat...I myself have suffered with anorexia in my younger years, and have now gone to the other extreme of being a size 24 in my latter years...yes I eat too much, yes i could excercise more, but to willingly stay like this because im a niche market is a ridiculous idea. People are fat for many reasons...some psychological...others through health conditions...women of my age who have had hysterectomy's tend to become a certain shape after they have had everything removed...so in answer to your question, nobody stays fat for the glamour, they just make the best of what they have got

I've got no oven and havnt had for nearly 7 years and it hasn't affected my weight. I know you said "tend" but I have never understood the reason behind the thinking no oven more weight.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As I feel this thread us going to spiral out of control I am going to have to close this thread

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Weight issues aren't always down to an unhealthy lifestyle!! There are numerous conditions and medication that cause weight gain. Don't assume OP!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As I feel this thread us going to spiral out of control I am going to have to close this thread

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Oh damn it didn't work Dave, try again

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As I feel this thread us going to spiral out of control I am going to have to close this thread

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Oh damn it didn't work Dave, try again

Should not of had my hair cut yesterday I seem to have lost all my powers

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As I feel this thread us going to spiral out of control I am going to have to close this thread

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Oh damn it didn't work Dave, try again

Should not of had my hair cut yesterday I seem to have lost all my powers

Saying that made me check for new pics ... Thought you meant your head hair!!!

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By *xodussxMan
over a year ago

sheffield

"As I feel this thread us going to spiral out of control I am going to have to close this thread

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....Failed. Try harder

OKay: Can any BBW or BBM on this site who will be sad to lose some weight raise her or his hand please????

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By *Ryan-Man
over a year ago

In Your Bush

"As I feel this thread us going to spiral out of control I am going to have to close this thread

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Oh damn it didn't work Dave, try again

Should not of had my hair cut yesterday I seem to have lost all my powers

Saying that made me check for new pics ... Thought you meant your head hair!!!

It's not his fleece is it ?

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By *uncpl2015Couple
over a year ago

Bridgend Area

exactly.. im bigger than i want to be although shrinking thank god (weight caused i might add by high strength pescriotion pain killers after surgery for tumour... Whose main side effect was weight gain.. there was others without the same side effect string enough but nhs said they were too expensive to give me lol..) get loads of interest to my suprise hubby more than happy others guys dont see a problem .. only me thats not happy with my weight.

If people are putting on weight so they become a bbw only then you may have a point.

Sex increases weight loss by quite a bit actually as its a very good work out and tones muscles.. alot if you really go for it..

So no have to say think its not..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm fat, haven't been or needed any gp or hospital services apart from check ups at sexual health, so are swingers a drain on the nhs?

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By *unky monkeyMan
over a year ago

in the night garden

I'm not sure BBW's are putting any more strain on the NHS than unhealthy skinny people or these farking carnts who go to casualty with a cold.

What we need to do is cull some people. I've been trying to do it single handedly but it's taking time. If everyone could kill one other person I think we would be fine.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As I feel this thread us going to spiral out of control I am going to have to close this thread

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Oh damn it didn't work Dave, try again

Should not of had my hair cut yesterday I seem to have lost all my powers

Saying that made me check for new pics ... Thought you meant your head hair!!!

It's not his fleece is it ?"

* yawn

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm fat, haven't been or needed any gp or hospital services apart from check ups at sexual health, so are swingers a drain on the nhs?"
god that a post in it self , lol wow are WE ?

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By *xodussxMan
over a year ago

sheffield

"I'm not sure BBW's are putting any more strain on the NHS than unhealthy skinny people or these farking carnts who go to casualty with a cold.

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...True . The binge drinkers are worse

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm fat, haven't been or needed any gp or hospital services apart from check ups at sexual health, so are swingers a drain on the nhs?god that a post in it self , lol wow are WE ?"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bet it is hilarious to watch your dog pump his arms and wiggle his ass

knew there would be a stupid reply

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't think any single scene, lifestyle or any other singular entity can be singled out as putting a strain on the NHS. It's just one big collective mess thanks to a dizzying number of variables to complex for most to really, truly understand.

If you are singling out the BBW scene maybe I should single out eating competitions, some one else go for the Guinness Book of World Records, greasy spoon cafes, cake bakers, sweet manufacturers, food lobbyists, fizzy drink companies..... Shall I go on boring the crap out of you all?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bet it is hilarious to watch your dog pump his arms and wiggle his ass

knew there would be a stupid reply

I thought it was hilarious

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By *acdoodle OP Man
over a year ago

Birmingham

Makes total sense

this thread is going to throw up a shit storm hahaha x

It will only throw up a shit storm if you want it to and tailor responses with leading or inflammatory comments

Generally most annoyance is generated when someone shows ignorance, a lack of understanding and an appreciation of the subject they have chosen to discuss.

At the moment, you are doing well at demonstrating all 3.

Why not sit back and allow those who actually do understand it to educate you ?

Or is it a case of 'I've made my mind up, now don't confuse me with the facts' ?"

I'm sorry I'm not educated enough to know the FACT that being vastly overweight does contribute to health problem and DOES cost the nhs\ the taxpayer large amounts of money

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville

Bet it is hilarious to watch your dog pump his arms and wiggle his ass

knew there would be a stupid reply

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Stupid- no...funny-yes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

im a bbw but i DO not promote obesity... although im very big i am also very fit and healthy..i walk alot and go to 4 zumba classes a week,rarely see the doctor... i am not an over over eater i just cant lose weight as easy as others....

i just dont see why us BBW shud hide away from society.we are women with needs too... look past the fat and get to know us.............

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"im a bbw but i DO not promote obesity... although im very big i am also very fit and healthy..i walk alot and go to 4 zumba classes a week,rarely see the doctor... i am not an over over eater i just cant lose weight as easy as others....

i just dont see why us BBW shud hide away from society.we are women with needs too... look past the fat and get to know us............."

Well said that woman!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Makes total sense

this thread is going to throw up a shit storm hahaha x

It will only throw up a shit storm if you want it to and tailor responses with leading or inflammatory comments

Generally most annoyance is generated when someone shows ignorance, a lack of understanding and an appreciation of the subject they have chosen to discuss.

At the moment, you are doing well at demonstrating all 3.

Why not sit back and allow those who actually do understand it to educate you ?

Or is it a case of 'I've made my mind up, now don't confuse me with the facts' ?

I'm sorry I'm not educated enough to know the FACT that being vastly overweight does contribute to health problem and DOES cost the nhs\ the taxpayer large amounts of money

So does smoking

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo

Bet it is hilarious to watch your dog pump his arms and wiggle his ass

knew there would be a stupid reply

He was making a joke

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Does it really matter if people choose to live unhealthily? If we were all super fit and lived to 90/100 the strain on pensions and minor ailments would cost the government far more, not to mention the hideous over crowding...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I love bbws and as for the nhs bless them i wish my job was so cushy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Does it really matter if people choose to live unhealthily? If we were all super fit and lived to 90/100 the strain on pensions and minor ailments would cost the government far more, not to mention the hideous over crowding..."

only if the person in question matters to u i guess

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I love bbws and as for the nhs bless them i wish my job was so cushy "

So anyone who works in the nhs has a cushy job?

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville

"I love bbws and as for the nhs bless them i wish my job was so cushy

So anyone who works in the nhs has a cushy job?"
Took the words outta my mouth (scuse the garlic breath)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"i thought the OP meant BBW is beautiful to some but there are underlying health issues with being overweight

or something like that What i thought also.

And me

Me too

I once saw a programme on extremely overweight women who intentional put on the weight as there was a "market" in the sex industry for it! I understand what he was saying and think some have taken it the wrong way and that he is BBW bashing.

Oh and im sorry but for those who say they do eat right and dont loose weight due to medical problems I think you will find that you cant keep putting on weight if you eat/drink right and the medical condition excuse is a cop out.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I love bbws and as for the nhs bless them i wish my job was so cushy "

Oh my oh my oh my

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By *Ryan-Man
over a year ago

In Your Bush

Bet it is hilarious to watch your dog pump his arms and wiggle his ass

knew there would be a stupid reply

Give us a smile

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By *acdoodle OP Man
over a year ago

Birmingham

"I love bbws and as for the nhs bless them i wish my job was so cushy

So anyone who works in the nhs has a cushy job?"

lol xx

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By *pl- capdagdeCouple
over a year ago

Cap d agde,France

This must be the 3rd BBW thread of 2013 already..Your never going to get a sensible debate on this subject,because to many people take it personal.Good luck though..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I once saw a programme on extremely overweight women who intentional put on the weight as there was a "market" in the sex industry for it! I understand what he was saying and think some have taken it the wrong way and that he is BBW bashing.

As a percentage how much do you think the BBW scene is contributing to the cost of treating people with obesity related health issues? Just because someone is overweight, doesn't mean they are part of the scene. It's a rubbish argument really...

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By *acdoodle OP Man
over a year ago

Birmingham

Makes total sense

this thread is going to throw up a shit storm hahaha x

It will only throw up a shit storm if you want it to and tailor responses with leading or inflammatory comments

Generally most annoyance is generated when someone shows ignorance, a lack of understanding and an appreciation of the subject they have chosen to discuss.

At the moment, you are doing well at demonstrating all 3.

Why not sit back and allow those who actually do understand it to educate you ?

Or is it a case of 'I've made my mind up, now don't confuse me with the facts' ?

I'm sorry I'm not educated enough to know the FACT that being vastly overweight does contribute to health problem and DOES cost the nhs\ the taxpayer large amounts of money

So does smoking

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Love smoking

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I love bbws and as for the nhs bless them i wish my job was so cushy

Oh my oh my oh my

I'm ready. Got both guns blazing here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Makes total sense

this thread is going to throw up a shit storm hahaha x

It will only throw up a shit storm if you want it to and tailor responses with leading or inflammatory comments

Generally most annoyance is generated when someone shows ignorance, a lack of understanding and an appreciation of the subject they have chosen to discuss.

At the moment, you are doing well at demonstrating all 3.

Why not sit back and allow those who actually do understand it to educate you ?

Or is it a case of 'I've made my mind up, now don't confuse me with the facts' ?

I'm sorry I'm not educated enough to know the FACT that being vastly overweight does contribute to health problem and DOES cost the nhs\ the taxpayer large amounts of money

So does smoking

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Love smoking

Oh you so gonna get it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bet it is hilarious to watch your dog pump his arms and wiggle his ass

knew there would be a stupid reply

Give us a smile

how about no lol

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

Let me put a different slant on this....so this very trim and healthy guy, who eats all the right food, exercises every day, has a gym membership.... is unlucky enough to develop cancer.

The strain on the NHS with cancer treatment and medication is MASSIVE.

We are ALL potentially at some point in our lifetime in a postion where we could cost the NHS a small fortune.

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By *Ryan-Man
over a year ago

In Your Bush

"i thought the OP meant BBW is beautiful to some but there are underlying health issues with being overweight

or something like that What i thought also.

And me

Me too

I saw that prog. I think the partners are called feeders

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

only prob i have with BBW`s is they`re monopolizing this ruddy site

isit the same on the scene in general?(genuine question)

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By *Ryan-Man
over a year ago

In Your Bush

Bet it is hilarious to watch your dog pump his arms and wiggle his ass

knew there would be a stupid reply

Give us a smile

how about no lol

Go on. You know you want to

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This is NOT aimed to cause any sort of offence to anybody. Before I get called all the names under the sun

I have nothin against the BBW but what's the thoughts on it glamourising a unhealthy lifestyle in the the times of NHS crisis. Xx

Here goes. I'm going to hide

xx"

Unlike others, I won't try to put words into your mouth or slate you for an opinion which they presume you have.

I shall reply to your OP. Yes I think it can sometimes glamourise it for some people. It may make them decide not to get healthy when really they should. For others, no it doesn't have that effect. And others are big but also healthy.

I think the same as with smoking etc, some people just like to rebel against things. Even though they know it's bad for them they will carry on with their unhealthy lifestyle... Just because other people tell them it's bad. If that makes sense.

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over a year ago

"Let me put a different slant on this....so this very trim and healthy guy, who eats all the right food, exercises every day, has a gym membership.... is unlucky enough to develop cancer.

The strain on the NHS with cancer treatment and medication is MASSIVE.

We are ALL potentially at some point in our lifetime in a postion where we could cost the NHS a small fortune.

Interestingly I saw on Question Time last night that the NHS only puts 1% of funding into prevention. The rest into cure... Maybe the pharmaceutical companies want us to cost the NHS a fortune...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I love bbws and as for the nhs bless them i wish my job was so cushy

So anyone who works in the nhs has a cushy job?Took the words outta my mouth (scuse the garlic breath)

Whoa!!! Did you eat a whole one?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bet it is hilarious to watch your dog pump his arms and wiggle his ass

knew there would be a stupid reply

Give us a smile

how about no lol

Go on. You know you want to

i,ll think about it lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I havnt got a clue and I suspect neither does the OP. He was also asking the question and I made a point about it. Would you let us know when you find out though?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I love bbws and as for the nhs bless them i wish my job was so cushy "

Oh Christ! I'm off

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So what you are saying is no matter how beautiful, big women are unhealthy and a strain on the NHS in the current financial climes?

Yeh suppose he is and unfortunately no matter if you tie it in a pretty bow it is unhealthy to be overweight. However at the same time it is also unhealthy to be slim and smoke or do drugs. We all have our vices.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This is NOT aimed to cause any sort of offence to anybody. Before I get called all the names under the sun

I have nothin against the BBW but what's the thoughts on it glamourising a unhealthy lifestyle in the the times of NHS crisis. Xx

Here goes. I'm going to hide

xx"

Just to throw in an off the wall comment. The OP above describes being a BBW as an 'unhealthy lifestyle'. Yesterday, it was announced that one of the senior presenters at the BBC had suffered a major stroke at the age of 53. The same person is widely known for being a very keen runner and, if you accept what BMI charts say (which I don't personally) was practically the 'ideal'. He is far from the only person with an apparently 'healthy' lifestyle to have suffered in this way.

So.... what is 'healthy'?? And can you actually describe being a BBW as a 'lifestyle'...?? The term implies that the person has made a CHOICE to be that way. I would say that every person, male or female, I have ever met who is overweight has never made a 'choice' to be like that. It often creeps up on you almost while you weren't looking.

But Andrew Marr made a choice to go running.... and look where it's got him (and I wish him a speedy recovery btw)...

Not sure, OP, how you can judge one 'group' as having an unhealthy 'lifestyle' against another. There are drawbacks with all.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Everythings a drain on the NHS really, people who over eat, people who smoke, people who drink, people who choose to put themselves in danger by doing extream sports, most illnesses are related to our life styles, over eating and smoking can cause strokes, over eating can cause diabetes, smoking can cause cancer, drinking can cause liver faliure, people who do such jobs are car racing, horse riding can end up with broken bones, etc etc etc so who is allowed to use the NHS without being labeled a drain?

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By *all-Eddies QosCouple
over a year ago

wirral

my partner sympathises with me and my weight.....I don't live off junk food...I cook....I am not inactive, I walk, swim, cycle and obviously sex is great exercise....I have an underactive thyroid, polycystic ovaries and suffer with depression (kills libido and motivation to move)

I dont complain about being big....I hardly get sick and only really use n.h.s for my plumbing problems (f all they can do anyway) and when I had my children

I dont have breathing,mobility problems or any illnesses because of my weight.....

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By *pl- capdagdeCouple
over a year ago

Cap d agde,France

"Let me put a different slant on this....so this very trim and healthy guy, who eats all the right food, exercises every day, has a gym membership.... is unlucky enough to develop cancer.

The strain on the NHS with cancer treatment and medication is MASSIVE.

We are ALL potentially at some point in our lifetime in a postion where we could cost the NHS a small fortune.

I don't see how you can compare..

Being Obese is mainly a self inflicted problem that is getting worse in the UK..

People hardly choose to get cancer

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By *pl- capdagdeCouple
over a year ago

Cap d agde,France

"only prob i have with BBW`s is they`re monopolizing this ruddy site

isit the same on the scene in general?(genuine question)"

No its not the same on other sites..

And defo not in the scene in france

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Let me put a different slant on this....so this very trim and healthy guy, who eats all the right food, exercises every day, has a gym membership.... is unlucky enough to develop cancer.

The strain on the NHS with cancer treatment and medication is MASSIVE.

We are ALL potentially at some point in our lifetime in a postion where we could cost the NHS a small fortune.

I don't see how you can compare..

Being Obese is mainly a self inflicted problem that is getting worse in the UK..

People hardly choose to get cancer"

what about people who smoke and get cancer is that not self inflicted?

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

"Let me put a different slant on this....so this very trim and healthy guy, who eats all the right food, exercises every day, has a gym membership.... is unlucky enough to develop cancer.

The strain on the NHS with cancer treatment and medication is MASSIVE.

We are ALL potentially at some point in our lifetime in a postion where we could cost the NHS a small fortune.

I don't see how you can compare..

Being Obese is mainly a self inflicted problem that is getting worse in the UK..

People hardly choose to get cancer"

The lifestyle choices of many people do in fact contribute to cancer, and many tens of thousands (if not more) of overweight people do in fact not eat any more nor excercise any less than so called 'normal people'.....

It's all too easy to label overweight people as lazy, poor eaters....it's not always the case.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Everythings a drain on the NHS really, people who over eat, people who smoke, people who drink, people who choose to put themselves in danger by doing extream sports, most illnesses are related to our life styles, over eating and smoking can cause strokes, over eating can cause diabetes, smoking can cause cancer, drinking can cause liver faliure, people who do such jobs are car racing, horse riding can end up with broken bones, etc etc etc so who is allowed to use the NHS without being labeled a drain?"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Let me put a different slant on this....so this very trim and healthy guy, who eats all the right food, exercises every day, has a gym membership.... is unlucky enough to develop cancer.

The strain on the NHS with cancer treatment and medication is MASSIVE.

We are ALL potentially at some point in our lifetime in a postion where we could cost the NHS a small fortune.

I don't see how you can compare..

Being Obese is mainly a self inflicted problem that is getting worse in the UK..

People hardly choose to get cancer"

well said majority off ppl who get cancer are not smokers ! just a smoke screen for ppl who say they don,t over eat but are maybe a size 24 well am sorry you did,nt get that way from eatin frut and veg

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By *Ryan-Man
over a year ago

In Your Bush

Bet it is hilarious to watch your dog pump his arms and wiggle his ass

knew there would be a stupid reply

Give us a smile

how about no lol

Go on. You know you want to

i,ll think about it lol "

Lol

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By *bbandflowCouple
over a year ago

South Devon

Let's all be honest here..do we want our children to be obese?

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By *pl- capdagdeCouple
over a year ago

Cap d agde,France

"Let me put a different slant on this....so this very trim and healthy guy, who eats all the right food, exercises every day, has a gym membership.... is unlucky enough to develop cancer.

The strain on the NHS with cancer treatment and medication is MASSIVE.

We are ALL potentially at some point in our lifetime in a postion where we could cost the NHS a small fortune.

I don't see how you can compare..

Being Obese is mainly a self inflicted problem that is getting worse in the UK..

People hardly choose to get cancer

what about people who smoke and get cancer is that not self inflicted?"

Yeah smoking or drinking self inflicted i agree..but there are many kinds of cancer that you don't have to be unhealthy to get..

Most obesity is self inflicted,most people choose to be over weight and do nothing about it..

Not just BBW in swinging but people in general

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By *reelove1969Couple
over a year ago

bristol

not sure why Andrew Marr has anything to do with this but the most common cause of a stroke is a blood clot, which in many cases is caused by a defect in the blood vessels which often has been their since birth

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

people that are more prone to putting weight on need to do more than the avg person to shed the lbs or stay in shape

am not being critical just saying. we all have to do whats required if we wanna lose weight/stay in shape

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By *hole Lotta RosieWoman
over a year ago

Deviant City

I am a fat BBW and its my chronic health conditions that are probably a strain on the NHS, I'm at hospital every week, sometimes up to 3 times a week.

I'm never at my GP or hospital due to my weight, so don't tar us all with the same brush.

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

Many thousands of people that spend excessive hours sunbathing find themselves victims of skin cancer....is their subsequent NHS treatment any more worthy than an obese person?

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By *pl- capdagdeCouple
over a year ago

Cap d agde,France

"Let me put a different slant on this....so this very trim and healthy guy, who eats all the right food, exercises every day, has a gym membership.... is unlucky enough to develop cancer.

The strain on the NHS with cancer treatment and medication is MASSIVE.

We are ALL potentially at some point in our lifetime in a postion where we could cost the NHS a small fortune.

I don't see how you can compare..

Being Obese is mainly a self inflicted problem that is getting worse in the UK..

People hardly choose to get cancer

It's all too easy to label overweight people as lazy, poor eaters....it's not always the case.

If it was bull shit and obesity wasn't a problem in society,why would they keep going on about it ?

Oh i get it fat people are being singled out ?

I think its fact that the UK has the second biggest obesity problem in the world.This problem is not all medical related,its to do with people eating unhealthy

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By *xodussxMan
over a year ago

sheffield

"Let's all be honest here..do we want our children to be obese?"
I don't think we do.

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By *pl- capdagdeCouple
over a year ago

Cap d agde,France

"Let me put a different slant on this....so this very trim and healthy guy, who eats all the right food, exercises every day, has a gym membership.... is unlucky enough to develop cancer.

The strain on the NHS with cancer treatment and medication is MASSIVE.

We are ALL potentially at some point in our lifetime in a postion where we could cost the NHS a small fortune.

I don't see how you can compare..

Being Obese is mainly a self inflicted problem that is getting worse in the UK..

People hardly choose to get cancer

I agree a very large amount of fat people arenin denial... The truth hurts !

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By *Ryan-Man
over a year ago

In Your Bush

This thread is obviously only going one way now

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By *pl- capdagdeCouple
over a year ago

Cap d agde,France

"Let's all be honest here..do we want our children to be obese?I don't think we do."

If thats the case why are there so many obese children ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This thread is obviously only going one way now

With you there

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"not sure why Andrew Marr has anything to do with this but the most common cause of a stroke is a blood clot, which in many cases is caused by a defect in the blood vessels which often has been their since birth "

Point I was trying to make is that Andrew Marr chose what is considered a healthy lifestyle, and yet he has still suffered from one of the same problems as can affect anyone - slim, fat, young old etc etc.

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By *pl- capdagdeCouple
over a year ago

Cap d agde,France

"Many thousands of people that spend excessive hours sunbathing find themselves victims of skin cancer....is their subsequent NHS treatment any more worthy than an obese person?

I doubt very much the amount of people suffering skin cancer, is anywhere even close to the amount of people with diabetes or problems from being over weight.

You don't get sun in the UK !

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

Obesity in children in a European wide problem, it's not only a UK phenomenon.

Countries that have historically had low obesity are fast catching up with their children.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I agree a very large amount of fat people arenin denial... The truth hurts ! "

i agree, people dont want to look at themselves at 20 stone plus and say...i did that to myself, they would sooner blame medication or some condition

Even so it does annoy me whem people single out big people as a drain on the NHS when compaired to some groups they give the MHS less problems, i work with a lot of stroke victims, all of which have smoked, some of who still smoke after their stroke, but people dont look at stroke victims the same way as they look at obese people

Who would turn away someone whos had a sroke from a hospital? yet lots think we should obese people

big people are just a easy group to target

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

hmm where to start on this, i have a feeling that no matter what people say here this will always be a touchy subject for many this includes myself, up until 3 yrs ago i was 43 stone and thanks to working at thisi am now 15, not due to eating the wrong things but due to being hit by a d*unk when i was younger and my legs not working properly since then.

Many people who are not slim desire to be slim as this is what magazines and fashion mags tell us to be (another argument there for you all lol ), many do eat healthy and in no ways promote it. No matter what people think you are what you are and if they cant see past the wrapping then they are prob not worth knowing lol.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"People having a preference to larger ladies (and men) isnt a new thing thing

I know

but does it promote an unhealthy lifestyle? X"

I have known and know larger people healthier and fitter than most thin people. For your information as well some weight gain is caused by the nhs such as steroid tablets and some

medical conditions

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By *pl- capdagdeCouple
over a year ago

Cap d agde,France

"Obesity in children in a European wide problem, it's not only a UK phenomenon.

Countries that have historically had low obesity are fast catching up with their children."

Nobody suggested it was just e UK ..

Everyone knows its a world wide problem..

But the UK top the charts along with the good old USA ..You certainly don't see many fat kids in the south of france ..infact you don't see many obese people at all.Thats probably due to the fact that the place isn't dominated by fast food restaurants

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By *pl- capdagdeCouple
over a year ago

Cap d agde,France

"I agree a very large amount of fat people arenin denial... The truth hurts !

i agree, people dont want to look at themselves at 20 stone plus and say...i did that to myself, they would sooner blame medication or some condition

Who would turn away someone whos had a sroke from a hospital? yet lots think we should obese people

big people are just a easy group to target"

No there are loads of things draining the NHS ..

Drugs,drinks and smoking for example..

But theres no denying that obesity is a huge problem and anyone that thinks its not is deluded

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

France is McDonalds most profitable European division, sales of Mcdonalds have increased by over 40% in the last five years....2% of all French people eat at McDonalds each and every day.

It's true that historically France has one of the lowest obestity rates in Europe....but the increase in childhood obesity means it will fast catch up with the UK and other EU nations.

It may not be todays biggest problem....but it sure as hell will be tommorrows

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

it is def a big problem all over unfortunately all we can do is try and educate our kids about healthy eating etc and hope, all be it the odds are stacked against us all

look at adverts today where items advertised as healthy are not always what they appear, food has become too convenient ie mc donalds, burger king etc etc.

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By *acdoodle OP Man
over a year ago

Birmingham

Sorry to anyone this thread has caused offence too. I honestly did not mean it to be or sound that way and if it did then I humbly apologise

I was just asking for _iews and options on a subject. I didn't realise it would cause such an uproar. I seen a thread saying this BBW thing has been discussed here before which I also didn't realise.

I'm outta here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

you arent as clever as you think you are

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By *pl- capdagdeCouple
over a year ago

Cap d agde,France

"France is McDonalds most profitable European division, sales of Mcdonalds have increased by over 40% in the last five years....2% of all French people eat at McDonalds each and every day.

It's true that historically France has one of the lowest obestity rates in Europe....but the increase in childhood obesity means it will fast catch up with the UK and other EU nations.

It may not be todays biggest problem....but it sure as hell will be tommorrows"

We have 2 macdonalds here,but guess what ?

They are never packed to the rafters,for many its a treat.There are no chip shops,kebab shops,fried chicken places or greasy spoon cafes just to mention a few.In the Uk these places litter the average high street.

France will never catch up with the UK ,children are brought up completely different..Familys sit down and eat fresh cooked food together,like familys used to do in the UK 30 years ago..

Fast food places aren't open 24 hours a day 7 days a week

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By *acdoodle OP Man
over a year ago

Birmingham

"you arent as clever as you think you are

Yeah I am lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Sorry to anyone this thread has caused offence too. I honestly did not mean it to be or sound that way and if it did then I humbly apologise

I was just asking for _iews and options on a subject. I didn't realise it would cause such an uproar. I seen a thread saying this BBW thing has been discussed here before which I also didn't realise.

I'm outta here

xx"

yeah yeah yeah like we believe you didnt set the bate deliberately

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By *hole Lotta RosieWoman
over a year ago

Deviant City

"I agree a very large amount of fat people arenin denial... The truth hurts !

i agree, people dont want to look at themselves at 20 stone plus and say...i did that to myself, they would sooner blame medication or some condition

So I'm one of them blaming my obesity on my medical conditions???

Heres a fact. I gained 10 stone in 12 months due to my thyroid. No matter how much I ate, or how lazy I was, it would be pretty impossible to gain that amount of weight so quickly. I was already chronically ill, my body is attacking itself, organs are failing and I'm on 64 tablets a day. Majority cause weight gain, but it was my thyroid that caused the weight problem.

I cant exercise, my physio refused for me to continue, I was devastated. Yes I can float around a pool, but I struggle to dress myself. I cant walk far and often use a wheel chair.

As I said previously, dont tar everyone with the same brush and everyone stop being so judgemental.

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over a year ago

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By *ola cubesMan
over a year ago

coatbridge

"France is McDonalds most profitable European division, sales of Mcdonalds have increased by over 40% in the last five years....2% of all French people eat at McDonalds each and every day.

It's true that historically France has one of the lowest obestity rates in Europe....but the increase in childhood obesity means it will fast catch up with the UK and other EU nations.

It may not be todays biggest problem....but it sure as hell will be tommorrows

We have 2 macdonalds here,but guess what ?

France will never catch up with the UK ,children are brought up completely different..Familys sit down and eat fresh cooked food together,like familys used to do in the UK 30 years ago..

Fast food places aren't open 24 hours a day 7 days a week"
familys in the uk eat home cooked meals also and i am sure in built up areas of france frogs legs nunchie boxes will be all the rage (joke dont take it so serious)yes france is comparable and i for one dont buy into the "they know how to look after themselves" there is just as many people in the uk percentage wise that eat healthy and wouldnt dream of the burger lifestyle

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By *pl- capdagdeCouple
over a year ago

Cap d agde,France

"I agree a very large amount of fat people arenin denial... The truth hurts !

i agree, people dont want to look at themselves at 20 stone plus and say...i did that to myself, they would sooner blame medication or some condition

So I'm one of them blaming my obesity on my medical conditions???

I cant exercise, my physio refused for me to continue, I was devastated. Yes I can float around a pool, but I struggle to dress myself. I cant walk far and often use a wheel chair.

As I said previously, dont tar everyone with the same brush and everyone stop being so judgemental."

See your jumping on your soap box !

She never said everyone,we fully realise that there are many people that have medical conditions that cause this.

So don't jump to conclusions and read the whole thread

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo

"Sorry to anyone this thread has caused offence too. I honestly did not mean it to be or sound that way and if it did then I humbly apologise

I was just asking for _iews and options on a subject. I didn't realise it would cause such an uproar. xx"

You must have done, otherwise you wouldn't have put "Here goes. I'm going to hide" on the end of your opening post.

As it happens, most are just discussing the subject.....so no uproar.

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By *acdoodle OP Man
over a year ago

Birmingham

"Sorry to anyone this thread has caused offence too. I honestly did not mean it to be or sound that way and if it did then I humbly apologise

I was just asking for _iews and options on a subject. I didn't realise it would cause such an uproar. I seen a thread saying this BBW thing has been discussed here before which I also didn't realise.

I'm outta here

yeah yeah yeah like we believe you didnt set the bate deliberately

I honestly didn't and didn't realise it could be the cause of WW3 x

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By *hole Lotta RosieWoman
over a year ago

Deviant City

"I agree a very large amount of fat people arenin denial... The truth hurts !

i agree, people dont want to look at themselves at 20 stone plus and say...i did that to myself, they would sooner blame medication or some condition

So I'm one of them blaming my obesity on my medical conditions???

I cant exercise, my physio refused for me to continue, I was devastated. Yes I can float around a pool, but I struggle to dress myself. I cant walk far and often use a wheel chair.

As I said previously, dont tar everyone with the same brush and everyone stop being so judgemental.

See your jumping on your soap box !

She never said everyone,we fully realise that there are many people that have medical conditions that cause this.

So don't jump to conclusions and read the whole thread

I read the whole thread, be alright if I had a soap box and I can jump

It was the way she said that people with medical conditions use it as an excuse and that a lot of people ore tarring BBWs with the same brush and that we aare a drain on the NHS. I'd rather be just fat than be so ill.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I agree a very large amount of fat people arenin denial... The truth hurts !

i agree, people dont want to look at themselves at 20 stone plus and say...i did that to myself, they would sooner blame medication or some condition

So I'm one of them blaming my obesity on my medical conditions???

I cant exercise, my physio refused for me to continue, I was devastated. Yes I can float around a pool, but I struggle to dress myself. I cant walk far and often use a wheel chair.

As I said previously, dont tar everyone with the same brush and everyone stop being so judgemental."

of course some people have weight problems due to medical conditions, but if we're honest what percentage of people who blame their weight on health problems are telling the truth and how many of them do you think are in denial?

Been there, done it and got the t shirt, i used to weight over 20 stone and i used every reason under the sun as to justify my weight, mainly to myself, because i couldnt look at myself and admit i had put myself in that possition, so i blamed everything about my life, i wasnt saying it to be rude im was saying it because i know full well the way i was isnt a isolated incident, i joined slimming world and by talking to other women there fouud out lots of women couldnt face the fact they had put themselves in the possition they was in weight wise and other also used to tell others it was down to ill health when really deep down inside we knew it wasnt

I am awear some genuinally do have health problems but mostly over weight people dont they just find it easier to say its down to ill health rather than say, i did this now what am i going to do to change it?

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By *acdoodle OP Man
over a year ago

Birmingham

Tomorrow Smoking? And Saturday religion

any up for a bit if that lol

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By *hole Lotta RosieWoman
over a year ago

Deviant City

"I agree a very large amount of fat people arenin denial... The truth hurts !

i agree, people dont want to look at themselves at 20 stone plus and say...i did that to myself, they would sooner blame medication or some condition

So I'm one of them blaming my obesity on my medical conditions???

I cant exercise, my physio refused for me to continue, I was devastated. Yes I can float around a pool, but I struggle to dress myself. I cant walk far and often use a wheel chair.

As I said previously, dont tar everyone with the same brush and everyone stop being so judgemental.

thanks for explaining, I do remember you saying in previous thread, my brain is a bit foggy today, think I need to avoid the thread and go back to sleep xxx

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

"France is McDonalds most profitable European division, sales of Mcdonalds have increased by over 40% in the last five years....2% of all French people eat at McDonalds each and every day.

It's true that historically France has one of the lowest obestity rates in Europe....but the increase in childhood obesity means it will fast catch up with the UK and other EU nations.

It may not be todays biggest problem....but it sure as hell will be tommorrows

We have 2 macdonalds here,but guess what ?

France will never catch up with the UK ,children are brought up completely different..Familys sit down and eat fresh cooked food together,like familys used to do in the UK 30 years ago..

Fast food places aren't open 24 hours a day 7 days a weekfamilys in the uk eat home cooked meals also and i am sure in built up areas of france frogs legs nunchie boxes will be all the rage (joke dont take it so serious)yes france is comparable and i for one dont buy into the "they know how to look after themselves" there is just as many people in the uk percentage wise that eat healthy and wouldnt dream of the burger lifestyle"

To be fair the French have historically always had a lower obesity rate amongst adults than the UK.

However.....childhood obesity in France is on the rise, and although there may only be Two Mcdonalds outlets in the Agde area....it only has a permanent residential population of around 24,000.

Paris on the other hand has Two times more Mcdonalds outlets than London, but has less than a third of the population of London.

In short France is just slow off the mark....they are destined to catch up in the future with the rest of Europe.

There is a whole new generation that will make their own minds up what they choose to eat.

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By *reelove1969Couple
over a year ago

bristol

"Tomorrow Smoking? And Saturday religion

any up for a bit if that lol

tomorrow is saturday aint it ??

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By *pl- capdagdeCouple
over a year ago

Cap d agde,France

"France is McDonalds most profitable European division, sales of Mcdonalds have increased by over 40% in the last five years....2% of all French people eat at McDonalds each and every day.

It's true that historically France has one of the lowest obestity rates in Europe....but the increase in childhood obesity means it will fast catch up with the UK and other EU nations.

It may not be todays biggest problem....but it sure as hell will be tommorrows

We have 2 macdonalds here,but guess what ?

France will never catch up with the UK ,children are brought up completely different..Familys sit down and eat fresh cooked food together,like familys used to do in the UK 30 years ago..

To be fair the French have historically always had a lower obesity rate amongst adults than the UK.

However.....childhood obesity in France is on the rise, and although there may only be Two Mcdonalds outlets in the Agde area....it only has a permanent residential population of around 24,000.

Paris on the other hand has Two times more Mcdonalds outlets than London, but has less than a third of the population of London.

In short France is just slow off the mark....they are destined to catch up in the future with the rest of Europe.

There is a whole new generation that will make their own minds up what they choose to eat.

Possibly who knows whats going to happen in the future.Hopefully people being made aware now,will mean that future generations don't make our mistakes.. On that note i'm off for a big mac and chips its lunch time ..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

obesity is having a major effect on the Nhs lets be honest with it, with many illness,s being link to it, Ashma, diabetes, high blood pressure heart desease

and some figures for you, so yeah obeseity is causing a effect on the NHS and this isnt a anti sizeism its just a fact that out there

¦62.8% of adults (aged 16 or over) were overweight or obese

¦30.3% of children (aged 2-15) were overweight or obese

¦26.1% of all adults and 16% of all children were obese

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't think it's as much the food as lack of exercise. All my daughter wants to do is sit in her room and play on her laptop/iPad. I have to force her to walk the dog and walk places. If she can con someone into giving her a lift she will. That's one of the reasons I won't get a car. Kids don't play outside like they used to. Ffs British bulldogs and skipping ropes are banned in my kids school coz it's dangerous apparently. God knows how the hell my generation survived childhood. Broken and sprained bones were par for the course for me, I was forever falling out trees amongst other things lol and sports were classed as fun! Nowadays sport seems to be a hindrance to kids, they prefer exercising their fingers on Nintendo and gameboys. Technology has a massive amount to do with it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

yes technology has been a big issue i rem as a kid having to train as a swimmer 4 hrs morning 4 hrs night god i miss them days

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over a year ago

"yes technology has been a big issue i rem as a kid having to train as a swimmer 4 hrs morning 4 hrs night god i miss them days

Mine likes swimming but she won't walk to the fekin pool! Pmsl

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By *pl- capdagdeCouple
over a year ago

Cap d agde,France

"I don't think it's as much the food as lack of exercise. All my daughter wants to do is sit in her room and play on her laptop/iPad. I have to force her to walk the dog and walk places. If she can con someone into giving her a lift she will. That's one of the reasons I won't get a car. Kids don't play outside like they used to. Ffs British bulldogs and skipping ropes are banned in my kids school coz it's dangerous apparently. God knows how the hell my generation survived childhood. Broken and sprained bones were par for the course for me, I was forever falling out trees amongst other things lol and sports were classed as fun! Nowadays sport seems to be a hindrance to kids, they prefer exercising their fingers on Nintendo and gameboys. Technology has a massive amount to do with it. "

They were the days.

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By *awkeye and HotlipsCouple
over a year ago

Takeley

Regarding body shape: this is a wider societal issue. We are bombarded with images and advertising about the body beautiful, to the point where our ideal ( as portayed in ads etc )is alledgedly to all be the perfect model/supermum/dad with endless time to excercise, where eating "forbidden" tidbits is deemed as evil, yet being endlessly encouraged to have a "bargain bucket" ( other buckets of crap are available ). Look to the timing of the ads. Feed up before dinner time, healthy options, just after. It is playing to our basest insecurities and it is the next generation that are growing up with fatist attitudes. When does a mum/dad have time to do the "stepford" wives/husband bit, with work, kids, commitments and busier lives? Whe was the last time anyone walked to the shops instead of drove or had their kids play outside ( or with them ) rather than let them get on their x box? It's balance. Be happy in your skin, balance what you know you should do with what you can. We like people of all shapes, it's what's within that counts

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Regarding body shape: this is a wider societal issue. We are bombarded with images and advertising about the body beautiful, to the point where our ideal ( as portayed in ads etc )is alledgedly to all be the perfect model/supermum/dad with endless time to excercise, where eating "forbidden" tidbits is deemed as evil, yet being endlessly encouraged to have a "bargain bucket" ( other buckets of crap are available ). Look to the timing of the ads. Feed up before dinner time, healthy options, just after. It is playing to our basest insecurities and it is the next generation that are growing up with fatist attitudes. When does a mum/dad have time to do the "stepford" wives/husband bit, with work, kids, commitments and busier lives? Whe was the last time anyone walked to the shops instead of drove or had their kids play outside ( or with them ) rather than let them get on their x box? It's balance. Be happy in your skin, balance what you know you should do with what you can. We like people of all shapes, it's what's within that counts "

Actually I drag mine with me on walks. I don't have a car and I won't let my mum give them unnecessary lifts. Folks say to me you will make her anorexic. What a load of bollox! For her health I will nag her to exercise and also because she has a beautiful face and she will hate it when she's a woman if it's lost in excess skin. She'll thank me in the end lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

lol i had to run there it was a 4 mile run there sad part was it was the st james pool in doncaster during miners strike there was no heat in the pool so middle of winter diving in was so not funny upside was our swimming came on great as we had to work hard just to stay warm

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"lol i had to run there it was a 4 mile run there sad part was it was the st james pool in doncaster during miners strike there was no heat in the pool so middle of winter diving in was so not funny upside was our swimming came on great as we had to work hard just to stay warm

ooh icy watter - just like river swimming

Wolf

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By *bbandflowCouple
over a year ago

South Devon

Does the criteria in the last paragraph apply to your children then?..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Same with us, we'd walk 3 miles to the beach without thinking about it. Sailed right up till last day of season, nearly got hypathermia more than once lol I mind throwing a huge tantrum one day coz I wasn't allowed to go sailing coz I'd damaged my neck pmsl I was insisting it was fine doing that stiff neck attempt at turning my head to prove my point. If only mine would throw tantrums about that instead of who stole whose charger lol

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By *awkeye and HotlipsCouple
over a year ago

Takeley

Does the criteria in the last paragraph apply to your children then?.."

Absolutely, we try and enthuse our children to enjoy sport: they play netball, football, golf, martial arts, swimming and cycling. They also have x boxes and enjoy them. We take an interest in what they do. They as all children enjoy the ocassional junk meals, however, we explain that food is like fuel, for the body and mind and we try our best to practice what we preach.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Lol love sailing as well not been for a while as my uncle has the yacht at the min can't wait to get hands on it again lol

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

haven't read it but I could almost guess every type of reply

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By *bbandflowCouple
over a year ago

South Devon

Does the criteria in the last paragraph apply to your children then?..

That's because you care about your children's health, and that's the point I'm attempting to make.

For all the obese people who claim they are' happy in their skin'.. 'fitter that thin people' ..'its what's inside that counts'..were honest I'm sure they wouldn't want their children to be obese, because they know it not healthy. And I'm sure that is what we would all want, caring for the health of your children is not 'fatist'

I agree it's a social issue, and there are many complex reasons why.

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By *uke olovingmanMan
over a year ago

Gravesend

you had better get in that great big hole you just dug and cover yourself right over and wait for the stampede of stilletoed bbws.

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By *bbandflowCouple
over a year ago

South Devon

"you had better get in that great big hole you just dug and cover yourself right over and wait for the stampede of stilletoed bbws. "

If you are referring to me, wont be going into any hole thanks!!

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By *uke olovingmanMan
over a year ago

Gravesend

"you had better get in that great big hole you just dug and cover yourself right over and wait for the stampede of stilletoed bbws.

If you are referring to me, wont be going into any hole thanks!!"

the op should be in the hole . i agree with your _iews. i am not sizeist. just keep healthy

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By *pl- capdagdeCouple
over a year ago

Cap d agde,France

This thread has never been offensive or abusive at all for a change..But i do believe that the people that start these threads know what they are doing..As did the OP

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By *reelove1969Couple
over a year ago

bristol

just one of his many talents

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"you had better get in that great big hole you just dug and cover yourself right over and wait for the stampede of stilletoed bbws.

If you are referring to me, wont be going into any hole thanks!!

the op should be in the hole . i agree with your _iews. i am not sizeist. just keep healthy "

In the hole? As in solitary confinement? Gee whizz off with his head, I mean how dare he ask a question!

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By *els_BellsWoman
over a year ago

with the moon n stars somewhere in gtr manc

Where'd my post go??

I initially said that I do not like looking like this and know it is a work in progress. I have and do find it hard. I have gone from a size 32 to a size 20-22 in 3years so its a work in progress.

I am not a drain on the nhs. I was before when i was young and slim so I guess it all just depends on the person.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Check me out! I'm a bbw and a drain on the NHS I I have hospital apps every 3 months and check me out I don't pay for prescriptions woop woop to all you haters hahahahahahaha. But as none of you know me I don't care what you think in honesty. I work I pay tax and national insurance I eat healthy visit the gym 4 times a week check me out lol.

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By *reelove1969Couple
over a year ago

bristol

did no one take the bait ??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"did no one take the bait ??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

their was a program on bbc3 recently about overweight "bbw" women, none of which where beautiful, bbw is just a term used for most larger ladies to feel comfertable.

Most bbw's get offered sex but never relationships from my experience.

Plenty of men seem to fancy them so enjoy them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I love bbws and as for the nhs bless them i wish my job was so cushy

So anyone who works in the nhs has a cushy job?"

the vast majority yes

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over a year ago

"I love bbws and as for the nhs bless them i wish my job was so cushy

So anyone who works in the nhs has a cushy job?

the vast majority yes "

Come and do my job for the day and see just how cushy it is,you'd be more than welcome

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I love bbws and as for the nhs bless them i wish my job was so cushy

So anyone who works in the nhs has a cushy job?

the vast majority yes

Come and do my job for the day and see just how cushy it is,you'd be more than welcome

How can anyone say nhs workers have a cushy job.

My respect goes out to all nhs staff out there, you do a grand job under some trying circumstances sometimes. Certainly a job I couldn't do

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over a year ago

"I love bbws and as for the nhs bless them i wish my job was so cushy

So anyone who works in the nhs has a cushy job?

the vast majority yes "

How cushty would you find it to be breathing puffs of breath into a tiny baby's lungs whilst his hysterical parents watch waiting for you save that childs life? How cushty would you find it to hold the hand of someone passing away, watching their life ebbing away? How cushty would you find it to be the first person on scene to a fourteen year old stabbed in the chest and then have to tell his family at the hospital that he hasn't made it? I could go on but I won't. You should get the jist unless you're really as ignorant as you come across.

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By *ursevampsWoman
over a year ago

bucks

i a m a big girl i have been to the doctors asking for help numerous times unfortuantlly it apparently in the genes according to my gp my mum i s a size 12 butt we have bigger in the family my aunty mel was a size 30 till health problems caused her to have a gastric bypass she now a 12 but looks unhealthy from it

i eat healthy and have a healthy ish lifestyle yes but i dont go over board if it some thing i fancy a cholcate bar i will have one simple i dont binge eat i go to the gym used to have a allotment fr three years and i work for the nhs only recently have been told by a surgeon i need a gastric band i love being me and i dont want the stupid band to change me i seen my siter have one and she still eats all the shit she did before she has lost 2 stone in 2 years i have been going gym ND IN 6 WEEKS LOST NEARLY 2 STONE im not dieting but toning up as it causing me problems with my back having a overtious large bottom simple it hurts to do my job now i have done everything the diets healthier eating nearly killing myself when i was put on a srtict diet till my surgeon remved me from it nad had the professional who implemtented it removed as it was actually dangerous i was told to remove all carbs but having problems with low sugars was making e worse i have tried to help my self every step the way but have became resigned to the fact i am as big as i am and i cant change that not with any pills or diets or healthy eating etc i mean strange i love a ceasr salad my fav meal simple tasty it best i have but im told fat people eating salad silly

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I love bbws and as for the nhs bless them i wish my job was so cushy

So anyone who works in the nhs has a cushy job?

the vast majority yes

Come and do my job for the day and see just how cushy it is,you'd be more than welcome

How can anyone say nhs workers have a cushy job.

My respect goes out to all nhs staff out there, you do a grand job under some trying circumstances sometimes. Certainly a job I couldn't do

I think NHS workers deserve a medal (and a massive payrise!) for what they do. I couldn't do it either.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i thought it stood for big blubbery women

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"i thought it stood for big blubbery women"

Stands for whatever you want it to stand for....that's the whole damn point that no one ever seems to get!!!!

You don't like big people so you think it stands for big blubbery women.

Some people do like big people so they think it stands for big beautiful women.

Some people don't like the idea of everyone thinking they are beautiful so think it stands for big buxom women or big boobed women etc.

The only thing that is constant is that it describes someone who thinks they are big and so if you don't like that you can walk on by (or around) but if you do like that then come say hi. It's actually quite a simple concept when you think about it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you have a drug problem, you get help and methadone etc to assist, if you are a boozer, you get help with rehab etc...

If your problem is food, your fucked because its something we all need to live. The help off the nhs depends where you live and how supportive your doctor is.

I dont glamorise obesity, its destructive but i do believe in a live and let live approach and wouldnt single any one group out as a drain on the nhs.

Pissheads on a friday and saturday evening put a hell of a strain on the nhs bigtime.

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By *mm_n_ZedCouple
over a year ago

Fareham

"i thought it stood for big blubbery women

Stands for whatever you want it to stand for....that's the whole damn point that no one ever seems to get!!!!

You don't like big people so you think it stands for big blubbery women.

Some people do like big people so they think it stands for big beautiful women.

Some people don't like the idea of everyone thinking they are beautiful so think it stands for big buxom women or big boobed women etc.

oh - and to the bloke who said big women get sex but not relationships? You are so very wrong my friend!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In what ways does BBW glamourise it ?

Maybe glamourise was the wrong word. I meant there seems to be a whole BBW "scene" as everyone has there own tastes in women I understand that. That's what I meant by glamourising

Do you mean that BBW's may try to glamourise their stance in opposition to the publications of the media that sensationalise them as a bad thing while at the same time as glamourising unhealthily skinny women as the standard by which women should live?

If you mean that, it's true, but it's not just a lifestyle to bigger women, it's a necessity. People shouldn't be judged for their lifestyles if they actually respect themselves. Lumping everyone in the same basket is what the media does and this is why the media's beliefs shouldn't be taken as gospel.

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By *ursevampsWoman
over a year ago

bucks

"In what ways does BBW glamourise it ?

Maybe glamourise was the wrong word. I meant there seems to be a whole BBW "scene" as everyone has there own tastes in women I understand that. That's what I meant by glamourising

whats difference between gossip mungor and media

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By *evilwolfCouple
over a year ago

Leicestershire

You could say that a smoking fetish glamourises an unhealthy thing in the time of an economic crisis - but who is anyone to judge based on flippant comments and sweeping generalisations?

How and what people do is up to themselves, just as how and what the NHS spends their money on is up to them, and not down to one member of the general public's _iews.. thankfully!

Such counterproductive remarks are typical of the barrack-room types and the 'I'm alright jack brigade' - both selfish and ignorant in the extreme.

Wolf

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"whats difference between gossip mungor and media "

The same difference that's between slander and defamation. If the whole country makes up its mind as whole that they need to pity larger women, that's a crock of shit. They deserve better respect than that. However a gossip monger is somebody you know by face value and many will put their foot down in the defence of people they know personally. The media just reaches more people and tells them the exact same thing all at once. A gossip munger you can staple their lips together when you're done being insulted!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes this thread will soon close....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The system doesn't breed us or bring us up through childhood (our parents do that and they encourage us to be happy and comfortable with ourselves... usually).

Yet it only wants us to be at constant peak health for fifty or 60 years so we can work ourselves to death if not just die immediately and stop "draining the coffers" and all that bullshit.

Therefore they say that being overweight is bad, being unemployed is bad, sexually transmitted diseases are bad, drinking and smoking are bad, you are all BAD!

Fuck that shit. Patriotism buys you nothing but the belief that you will get what you deserve and in the end you get screwed just like everyone else. So live the life you want to and only take criticism for the good that you do in life. Because very few of us are friends in this country and you know it!

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By *rokengirlWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere

Hate these posts that group all big people Into the unhealthy inactive people bracket.... I go to the gym 3 times a week and eat a very well balanced diet yet I am a size 22.... My gym instructor has even said I prove that fitness is not linked to size I can do things in the gym that the perfect size 10 gym bunny would faint at!!!

Please stop this nonsense just because I'm a big girl doesn't mean I'm lazy and unfit.... Far from it!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What next? For all ridiculously high heels to be banned because they are hazardous to health?

How about banning any sports that are deemed dangerous?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Tbh I disagree with this post, a lot of things drain our nhs service, smokers, drinkers, drug users, obesity, anorexia, hypochondriacs, list is endless.

Let everyone choose to live their live as they please.

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