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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Do they ever come after anyone?

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By *ora the explorerWoman
over a year ago

Paradise, Herts

For real? Of course they do

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By *bi HaiveMan
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over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

A few Tory MP's of late.......

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By *om and JennieCouple
over a year ago

Chams or Socials

"Do they ever come after anyone?

Always

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They definitely do!

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By *avexxMan
over a year ago

cheshire

they sure do..

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"For real? Of course they do "

Yes serious question. I know someone who is an absolute and has never paid any taxes. They have never come after him.

Makes me wonder.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"For real? Of course they do

Yes serious question. I know someone who is an absolute and has never paid any taxes. They have never come after him.

Makes me wonder. "

Apsolute crook*

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By *iceButtSlimMan
over a year ago

somewhere

"Do they ever come after anyone?

But not with threatening phone calls or emails. They always arrive in a small brown envelope through the door.

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By *ora the explorerWoman
over a year ago

Paradise, Herts

"For real? Of course they do

Yes serious question. I know someone who is an absolute and has never paid any taxes. They have never come after him.

Makes me wonder. "

They may catch them one day. They may not. It’s a big risk though.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Do they ever come after anyone?

But not with threatening phone calls or emails. They always arrive in a small brown envelope through the door."

Even if that person has never been tax registered?

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

Loads of people get away with evading taxes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some creative accounting among the self employed can get them out of paying a lot of tax. My step dad has never paid a penny since becoming a self employed accountant…….read into that however you like

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Loads of people get away with evading taxes. "

They sure do. A lot of people are skilful at avoiding taxes which is legal but plenty hide stuff illegally which they should be declaring.

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By *ixieAndHerKingCouple
over a year ago

Debauchery

I’m told by people I would expect to know that they have a threshold (a £ figure) below which they don’t act.

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By *rder66Man
over a year ago

Tatooine

They will always get you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes. If you’re wise you can off set your taxes in a legal way. But never try and dodge it. Not worth the risk.

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By *ora the explorerWoman
over a year ago

Paradise, Herts

"Some creative accounting among the self employed can get them out of paying a lot of tax. My step dad has never paid a penny since becoming a self employed accountant…….read into that however you like "

True. I have a good accountant. All legal though. A lot of people don’t know what they can claim for. Actually paying an accountant instead of doing it myself has saved me a fortune.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Loads of people get away with evading taxes. "

They certainly do. I know quite a few and they don't give a shit about the taxman.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

My mate married a lady who has since become an accountant and now they have properties, flash cars and a yacht. Always going on holiday and eating out most nights. Basically living the millionaire lifestyle. Not that long ago they didn't have ten pence to scratch their arse.

Read into that however you like.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"They will always get you."

That's not true

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By *iceButtSlimMan
over a year ago

somewhere

"Do they ever come after anyone?

But not with threatening phone calls or emails. They always arrive in a small brown envelope through the door.

Even if that person has never been tax registered?"

If they have ever been on a company payroll then they will of been registered in some form or another.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

True. I have a good accountant. All legal though. A lot of people don’t know what they can claim for. Actually paying an accountant instead of doing it myself has saved me a fortune. "

Someone recently told me about something called quick books ? Online. However I rather pay my accountant and get advice when I need it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Read into that however you like. "

Precisely, if you see a poor accountant, they aren’t one you want to work for you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes they definitely do.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

"I’m told by people I would expect to know that they have a threshold (a £ figure) below which they don’t act. "

Considering they claw back even tiny overpayments of tax credits, even when it's HMRC who made the mistake, I'd find that surprising.......

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Read into that however you like.

Precisely, if you see a poor accountant, they aren’t one you want to work for you "

Yeah there is certainly something dodgy about it. They may know how to push the law to the limit.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

Some people will claim to be paying no tax as a kind of boast but they actually are

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Some people will claim to be paying no tax as a kind of boast but they actually are"

And some claim to be paying a lot as a kind of boast

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By *acktopervMan
over a year ago

Stourport-On-Severn

"Do they ever come after anyone?

Of course they do.

At 65 years old and self employed from the age of 22, i have suffered 2 tax investigations. The first was just a random investigation when i was 28. It was very very stressful and nothing was found.

The second one was when i was 52 and that was much much worse. It took over a year and the woman that was the investigator took an instant dislike to me from day one. At the time i thought she had some sort of point to prove for her position within HMRC. In the end, she was actually sacked and i was awarded compensation.

My point in answering this question is quite simple, yes, they do come after people.

When they do though, even if you have nothing to hide, they can and will make your life hell.

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By *illyjohnyCouple
over a year ago

brighton

"For real? Of course they do

Yes serious question. I know someone who is an absolute and has never paid any taxes. They have never come after him.

Makes me wonder. "

Has this person upset you ?

If so grass him up but what will you ever get out of it ?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Do they ever come after anyone?

Of course they do.

At 65 years old and self employed from the age of 22, i have suffered 2 tax investigations. The first was just a random investigation when i was 28. It was very very stressful and nothing was found.

My point in answering this question is quite simple, yes, they do come after people.

When they do though, even if you have nothing to hide, they can and will make your life hell."

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"For real? Of course they do

Yes serious question. I know someone who is an absolute and has never paid any taxes. They have never come after him.

Makes me wonder.

Has this person upset you ?

If so grass him up but what will you ever get out of it ?"

No. I wrote this thread off the back of another on going forum thread.

What are you getting out of this ?

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By *4bimMan
over a year ago

Farnborough Hampshire

Yes they do.

But I found the inland revenue service more aggressive than HMRC

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By *partharmonyCouple
over a year ago

Ruislip

Oh yes. They are an evil organisation. Incompetence combined with self-righteousness and a lot of legal clout.

They came after me for mistakes they made which I pointed out to them many times. They fined me over ten grand for their consistent mistakes. They have never formally recognised their errors, apologised or returned my money. I'm still fighting for it six years years later.

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By *4bimMan
over a year ago

Farnborough Hampshire

The beauty of the IRS coming after you is that you say nothing. You contact your lawyer who will tell you (the suspect) in no uncertain terms to make no statement to the police or agents under any circumstances.

Talking to the police/agents cannot help you.

At the interview or you plead the 5th amendment and shut up completely because even truthful answers can be used against you in court.

If they contact you by phone you tell them (at the direction of your lawyer) you will only talk if you have immunity from prosecution in writing. They rarely call back.

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By *.D.I.D.A.SMan
over a year ago

London/Essex... ish... Romford to be exact

It depends how far you take the piss and whether you take the appropriate steps to cover your tracks from what people tell me.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Oh yes. They are an evil organisation. Incompetence combined with self-righteousness and a lot of legal clout.

Damn that's rough!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"The beauty of the IRS coming after you is that you say nothing. You contact your lawyer who will tell you (the suspect) in no uncertain terms to make no statement to the police or agents under any circumstances.

Talking to the police/agents cannot help you.

At the interview or you plead the 5th amendment and shut up completely because even truthful answers can be used against you in court.

If they contact you by phone you tell them (at the direction of your lawyer) you will only talk if you have immunity from prosecution in writing. They rarely call back.

This sounds like it was written for someone from the USA

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By *bi HaiveMan
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over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

Talking to the police/agents cannot help you.

At the interview or you plead the 5th amendment and shut up completely because even truthful answers can be used against you in court.

If they contact you by phone you tell them (at the direction of your lawyer) you will only talk if you have immunity from prosecution in writing. They rarely call back.

The 5th amendment won't get you very far in the UK will it.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"It depends how far you take the piss and whether you take the appropriate steps to cover your tracks from what people tell me. "

Yeah. When I first went self employed I was told that I shouldn't of done it. He said I should of went limited. I don't know why. Maybe someone can enlighten me, please?

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By *urygent1Man
over a year ago

North West

Definitely and it can be very painful..

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

Talking to the police/agents cannot help you.

At the interview or you plead the 5th amendment and shut up completely because even truthful answers can be used against you in court.

If they contact you by phone you tell them (at the direction of your lawyer) you will only talk if you have immunity from prosecution in writing. They rarely call back.

The 5th amendment won't get you very far in the UK will it.

I was going to say as much, but couldn't be bothered. The IRS doesn't have much jurisdiction here either!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes they do.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"For real? Of course they do

Yes serious question. I know someone who is an absolute and has never paid any taxes. They have never come after him.

Makes me wonder. "
Shop him!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

HMRC use human intelligence for their enquiries.

You could always report it if you wish to.

If you don't wish to, then try and put it out of your mind.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Lol no good luck to them I say. I wouldn't have such luck.

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