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"I think people are definitely having children later these days. I had my first at 26 and my second at 37. I do wish I’d not had such a gap between mine but circumstances/finances etc played a part. One thing I do think is sad though is that if you have them later they can miss out on a generation. My parents were young when they had me and they still are very active. My children have had young and fit grandparents all their life (they still have all 4 of them). This won’t happen the later people have children . " This has actually crossed my mind as well when it comes to whether I want kids should I enter a relationship. I'm the youngest of 4 and my mum was 30 and my dad was 34 when they had me. I don't want to leave it too late if I want kids when I settle down where they may not know or remember my Mum and Dad | |||
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"Were the 2 men talking about having a child from a male perspective or about what age they feel a woman should have a child?" Yes, they did talk about that as well, that for the male they could wait till abit longer than a woman could. | |||
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"I’m 38 I’ve never wanted kids it still seems this is an odd concept for some but I am more than happy with my choice not too. I like my life the way it is minus the responsibility for another - some will say that’s selfish but it’s my honest feelings on the subject x" Absolutely not selfish at all, if anything I m the selfish one at 4 as population really does matter | |||
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"Lots of ready shows the optimum age biologically is much lower than 20! Parenting is the ultimate sacrifice but also the ultimate blessing. I had my first at 19, two more at 29 & 30. One of my few regrets in life is not having more , but I think I likely will have more still " Blimey I totally couldn't do it at my age...(not that I actually could have another baby at this age) and really in no hurry for grandchildren.... it really is the toughest job out there...but now they are all adults...givers to society bla bla ...its extremely rewarding | |||
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"Funny these kind of interviews appear to say that the decline in birth rate is due to focus on career's. Never that there is better birth control and that once people have 2 or 3, they tend to not have any more. Not the 10-11 children like my great grand parents had. Think people's bias shows when these kind of subjects are discussed. " Indeed. Women having better options and choices, plus children being much more likely to live to adulthood - that's what I'd look to | |||
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"Question: Have any of you become pregnant through swinging? I had a lass once accuse me of being the father of her child but I couldn’t even remember actually having sex with her without a condom in place. Eventually after DNA test proved I wasn’t the father, she withdrew her claims and went after some other poor sod. " Yes I did. He's meant to be paying maintenance but still avoiding, has been going on for months. Had a dna test, even though he knows the baby is his as a delay tactic. Tedious. He's still here looking for bb sex though! | |||
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"I watched a very interesting and informative program that jordan peterson did, he interview stephen j shaw, here is the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qrg8t34yXRs. They talked about many things surrounding it and how the birth rate have decreased, especially since the 1970s. They said that one of the reasons was because the time had changed as people then started to focus more on their career so left it to have children later in life. But as the time goes, the chances decreases more to get pregnant and if one is single at that stage, the pressure adds up to find a partner. They concluded in the program which I also agree with is that the best time to have a child is when one is young at about 20 years or so. What is your view about it, is there a "perfect" time to have a child and is there a time where it might be too late? If you dont have a child are you also happy with that choice? I dont have one and I am happy about that choice " I think he is a bit of a dick who wants everyone to conform to his perfect ideals. | |||
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"Due to medical reasons my ex and I never had kids till we were both in our 40's and although might have been more hard-wearing on her body we never had any problems. Both our kids now in their 20's and doing well. So don't think there is perfect time, you adjust to being parents and do best for your kids." | |||
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"I had my son at 25, luckily I'd lived a little and travelled, so I didn't feel like I'd missed out on anything. Lots of his friends seem to be having babies, they're only 20/21, I think that's too young, they've gone from school, to college to being a parent... Not much life experience! And now I'm still young enough to enjoy doing things with him that we both enjoy, like going to gigs and I'm a cool mom! Even his mate said that... " I had my first at 21...the other 3, last one 29...and still young/fit enough to enjoy life...my sister will be my age and still doing the school run, everyone is different I guess | |||
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"I'm beginning to get ramping up of "it's not too late" from my family. Ok cool. Nice to know. The factory is closed." Oh! I know that well. Colleagues telling me it would soon be 'too late'. People assuming I was having difficulty conceiving. Someone I knew on congratulating me on my first pregnancy whispered "were you desperate?". | |||
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"I'm beginning to get ramping up of "it's not too late" from my family. Ok cool. Nice to know. The factory is closed. Oh! I know that well. Colleagues telling me it would soon be 'too late'. People assuming I was having difficulty conceiving. Someone I knew on congratulating me on my first pregnancy whispered "were you desperate?". " Yikes. I'm sorry people are gross | |||
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"I'm beginning to get ramping up of "it's not too late" from my family. Ok cool. Nice to know. The factory is closed. Oh! I know that well. Colleagues telling me it would soon be 'too late'. People assuming I was having difficulty conceiving. Someone I knew on congratulating me on my first pregnancy whispered "were you desperate?". Yikes. I'm sorry people are gross" They seem to think a woman's fertility is fair game. One of my mum's friends stopped me in the street on seeing me with a pram and said how glad she was that I'd finally managed it . She was a thoroughly decent woman, I'd grown up around her and her (many) children so I found it touching rather than rude but still... | |||
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"I'm beginning to get ramping up of "it's not too late" from my family. Ok cool. Nice to know. The factory is closed. Oh! I know that well. Colleagues telling me it would soon be 'too late'. People assuming I was having difficulty conceiving. Someone I knew on congratulating me on my first pregnancy whispered "were you desperate?". Yikes. I'm sorry people are gross They seem to think a woman's fertility is fair game. One of my mum's friends stopped me in the street on seeing me with a pram and said how glad she was that I'd finally managed it . She was a thoroughly decent woman, I'd grown up around her and her (many) children so I found it touching rather than rude but still..." Yeah, I know how it goes both ways, culture etc, but it's something so intimate and private that it gives me the creeps. | |||
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"I'm beginning to get ramping up of "it's not too late" from my family. Ok cool. Nice to know. The factory is closed. Oh! I know that well. Colleagues telling me it would soon be 'too late'. People assuming I was having difficulty conceiving. Someone I knew on congratulating me on my first pregnancy whispered "were you desperate?". Yikes. I'm sorry people are gross They seem to think a woman's fertility is fair game. One of my mum's friends stopped me in the street on seeing me with a pram and said how glad she was that I'd finally managed it . She was a thoroughly decent woman, I'd grown up around her and her (many) children so I found it touching rather than rude but still... Yeah, I know how it goes both ways, culture etc, but it's something so intimate and private that it gives me the creeps. " Me too. Our daughter and her partner have made the decision not to have children. People assume all sorts and ask the most invasive questions. My dad who lives in 1847 in his head asked me why they'd bothered getting married if they didn't want children. | |||
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"I’m 38 I’ve never wanted kids it still seems this is an odd concept for some but I am more than happy with my choice not too. I like my life the way it is minus the responsibility for another - some will say that’s selfish but it’s my honest feelings on the subject x" Not at all selfish and not at all odd. You make life choices based on what you think is right for you. Not on what other people may wish to project on you. | |||
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"I agree that there’s pros and cons to all ages. Biologically 20’s for men and women is ideal, it’s somewhat of a myth that men can leave it until whenever. Sperm quality, amount & motility does decline with age. The older both parents are the higher risk of problems with fertility, miscarriage, premature birth, health problems for baby etc. But being older can mean greater relationship, emotional and financial stability which are also pros of course. What’s right for one person/family may not be for another. I also agree that being much older parents can have negative impacts on the child emotionally I’ve a few friends with older parents and they quite strongly feel it wasn’t the wisest decision on the part of their parents. They missed out on living/fit and healthy grandparents, and on fit, healthy and active parents especially when they were younger than high school age. It’s finding the right balance is tricky. " Plenty of people miss out on living/fit grandparents and parents for all kinds of reasons in addition to disability & death by old age , and plenty of people have younger ones but they are shit. Just sounds like aegism to me. | |||
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"I have kids but they don't want babies....I am happy with their choice...I don't particularly want grandchildren.." That is also good . | |||
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"I am so glad that my parents had me when Dad was 23 and Mum was 21. There was then 3 years gap between next brother and another 3 before youngest. They had youth on their side which helped. A lot of my friends parents were older and are no longer around." That is good and same here. I am also glad that my parents was 20 when they had me, it means that I can enjoy spending time with them for a longer time and as well. I could spend time with my grandparents for a longer time too | |||
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"Had all my 4 in my 20s...none of them in a hurry to give me grandchildren which I m thankful for as 2.5 of them still at home " That is good | |||
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"Have I logged into netmums?" 2 tsps calpol after a meal and then bed. | |||
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"Aside from having them at the extremes at either end of the age range, I don't think it really matters. The important thing is that you love, care and provide for them. Having kids is a wonderful gift, enjoy it for every second you have with them because it goes so fast and before you know they are off on their own adventure. Love is the key, not age xxx" | |||
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"Aside from having them at the extremes at either end of the age range, I don't think it really matters. The important thing is that you love, care and provide for them. Having kids is a wonderful gift, enjoy it for every second you have with them because it goes so fast and before you know they are off on their own adventure. Love is the key, not age xxx" Why does it matter if you have kids at the "extreme" ends? I had my first at 16 and now, knowing what I know and having experienced what I have, I wouldn't change it. | |||
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"I’m 38 I’ve never wanted kids it still seems this is an odd concept for some but I am more than happy with my choice not too. I like my life the way it is minus the responsibility for another - some will say that’s selfish but it’s my honest feelings on the subject x Not at all selfish and not at all odd. You make life choices based on what you think is right for you. Not on what other people may wish to project on you. " I think a lot of people use "selfish" as a deflection from criticism. "Oh, it's so selfish not to have children" is something people hear a lot. So people - I'm not speaking for this poster, just something I've seen and occasionally done myself - own it. Yes, perhaps I'm selfish, and isn't it great that a child or children doesn't have a selfish terrible mother inflicted on them. Yeah? Now off you (not you you, anyone who thinks they can tell me to procreate) fuck with your unsolicited opinions on the output of my uterus. | |||
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"Aside from having them at the extremes at either end of the age range, I don't think it really matters. The important thing is that you love, care and provide for them. Having kids is a wonderful gift, enjoy it for every second you have with them because it goes so fast and before you know they are off on their own adventure. Love is the key, not age xxx Why does it matter if you have kids at the "extreme" ends? I had my first at 16 and now, knowing what I know and having experienced what I have, I wouldn't change it. " I should have clarified, whilst 16 is young it's not extreme. I meant younger than that and woman at the other end for example woman in their sixties taking fertility treatment to have kids. Either extreme ends brings issues which may be problematic, that's all xxx | |||
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" When I got married at 16 people told me I made a mistake. When I had a child at 17, they told me I was throwing my life away . When I got divorced at 25 and moved back to Edinburgh with 3 small children alone , my delightful ex husband told me I would never be happy. He also checked out of being a father. They were all wrong. Mum is the best title I've ever had. It's not easy ,the nights are long,the worries,challenges and stresses come and go. However, I'm so proud and so grateful. I'm not just mum,I'm also dad and grandparents to my boys. I am so very lucky. I've worked hard to have a career as well and I'm now at the point where my sons are older ,my own life is almost restarting and I'm young enough to go a bit wyld . There is no right time though. There's no such thing as even being properly ready. You can only do what's right for you or play the cards you are dealt ." You are right there as well as you can only do what is right for you | |||
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