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By *resesse_Meliorem OP   Couple
over a year ago

Border of London

What do you read into it?

"Looking for couple or female to join us"

"Any female wanna suck me off tonight?"

"Need a girl to satisfy"

"I'm a big girl, get over it"

"We're looking for a woman to join us"

Is girl to young-sounding?

Is female to incel-triggering and objectifying?

Is woman too clinical?

Lady? Hunny? Bitch? Slapper? Person-who-menstruates? Goddess?

We find that some of the above work in a certain context, while not in others. We see profiles that sometimes give us the ick when using them in the wrong context, but then we realise that is probably a cultural thing. One person's lady is another person's girl.

How do you guys (and girls? ...females?) feel (other contextual icks aside)? Do you feel that your view on feminism/female empowerment informs your view?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't really mind what's written in a profile to say what they are looking for "girl/woman/lady", hopefully they would have at least seen my age so would know I'm not a girl anymore.

I do sometimes have "wow...shit I'm that old moment" when I get a message saying they want a mature lady...I don't think I'm quite that old yet, am I?

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By *nightsoftheCoffeeTableCouple
over a year ago

Leeds

I don't like girl it makes me think child, otherwise all others don't bother me.

Mrs

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

"Girl" would not apply to me anymore really but "woman" is absolutely fine.

It is infinitely preferable to "lady" or any of the other terms referred to in the OP post, in my world anyway. This is 2023 and I am a woman!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Female is objectifying and incel-like. I avoid profiles with the word.

The rest I’m happy with

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

To be honest I'm more upset by terms like 'hun' 'babe' or whatever other version they use.

I also instantly block anyone who refers to me as a slut,whore or any other term I see as derogatory. That's my choice though and for anyone out there who likes those names then that's their choice .

I am a woman. I am female. I am a lady. I am a bigger girl . All of these things are fact.

Personally, I don't think strangers on the internet need to call me anything other than my name.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So not to upset the neck beards or anyone older than a girl, not a lady but maybe a woman we can just refer to all as those that I like to shag

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


"To be honest I'm more upset by terms like 'hun' 'babe' or whatever other version they use.

I also instantly block anyone who refers to me as a slut,whore or any other term I see as derogatory. That's my choice though and for anyone out there who likes those names then that's their choice .

Personally, I don't think strangers on the internet need to call me anything other than my name.

"

I am only quoting what I am referring to specifically - not intending to deliberately misquote

I agree with all those points and would like to add the term "hot mummy" in all its variations - it is quite a turn off in my opinion - others may disagree.

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By *resesse_Meliorem OP   Couple
over a year ago

Border of London


"I don't really mind what's written in a profile to say what they are looking for "girl/woman/lady", hopefully they would have at least seen my age so would know I'm not a girl anymore.

I do sometimes have "wow...shit I'm that old moment" when I get a message saying they want a mature lady...I don't think I'm quite that old yet, am I? "

You can only be young once.

But you can be immature forever

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don't really mind what's written in a profile to say what they are looking for "girl/woman/lady", hopefully they would have at least seen my age so would know I'm not a girl anymore.

I do sometimes have "wow...shit I'm that old moment" when I get a message saying they want a mature lady...I don't think I'm quite that old yet, am I?

You can only be young once.

But you can be immature forever "

Absofuckinglutey!

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod

over a year ago

East Sussex

Woman is fine by me. It describes how I identify.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I think it's contextual.

"Female", particularly when it's "females and men" is evidence towards incel or incel adjacent.

Girl can be harmless, or it can be infantilising.

Lady can be harmless or it can be fedora wearing knocking me over to noisily make sure I don't wilt from opening my own damn door.

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By *vilgasamWoman
over a year ago

The dot in the i

If they use words like female or girl I’ll avoid them, each to their own bit it bugs me too much so blocking and moving on is simply easier

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod

over a year ago

East Sussex


"If they use words like female or girl I’ll avoid them, each to their own bit it bugs me too much so blocking and moving on is simply easier "

Yep. A guy from a couple we were meeting once sent us a massive fantasy scenario he hoped to play out which included reference to 'the girls hugging their new found friend', it gave me the shudders

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By *ormerWelshcouple2020Man
over a year ago

Stourbridge

I’m going to Google incel.

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By *ora the explorerWoman
over a year ago

Paradise, Herts

Can honestly say I’m really not bothered.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Woman is fine by me. It describes how I identify. "

And this - I'm trying to imagine a scenario where "woman" is a red flag for me, and I can't think of one

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By *weetiepie99Woman
over a year ago

cardiff

None really bother me. People get hung up on the strangest things!

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod

over a year ago

East Sussex


"Woman is fine by me. It describes how I identify.

And this - I'm trying to imagine a scenario where "woman" is a red flag for me, and I can't think of one "

I like being described as a woman. I am one, I think it sounds as if the person saying or writing it acknowledges that I'm an adult and on a par with them

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod

over a year ago

East Sussex


"I’m going to Google incel. "

You will probably regret it

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By *vilgasamWoman
over a year ago

The dot in the i


"If they use words like female or girl I’ll avoid them, each to their own bit it bugs me too much so blocking and moving on is simply easier

Yep. A guy from a couple we were meeting once sent us a massive fantasy scenario he hoped to play out which included reference to 'the girls hugging their new found friend', it gave me the shudders "

Oh that would make my skin crawl

I’m the same when they say they want women smooth too tbh, just feels wrong IMO

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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago

Away for Christmas


"Can honestly say I’m really not bothered. "

With Nora on that one.

It's within the context of how it's used and by the person using it. In some cases it's a regional/culture/generational thing.

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By *ora the explorerWoman
over a year ago

Paradise, Herts


"Can honestly say I’m really not bothered.

With Nora on that one.

It's within the context of how it's used and by the person using it. In some cases it's a regional/culture/generational thing. "

Loads of people see girl as a no no. I’ve always said it. I’m a girl. I go out with the girls etc.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Woman is fine by me. It describes how I identify.

And this - I'm trying to imagine a scenario where "woman" is a red flag for me, and I can't think of one

I like being described as a woman. I am one, I think it sounds as if the person saying or writing it acknowledges that I'm an adult and on a par with them"

For sure. I think a lot of these things are meaningless, truthfully, but when you add stuff up, it can lead in different directions. (A different example. "Are you on the pill?" has very different connotations from your doctor, your friend struggling with their periods, and a message on Fab. Same with various terms for adult female person. I just can't think of a bad example for woman right now)

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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago

Away for Christmas


"Can honestly say I’m really not bothered.

With Nora on that one.

It's within the context of how it's used and by the person using it. In some cases it's a regional/culture/generational thing.

Loads of people see girl as a no no. I’ve always said it. I’m a girl. I go out with the girls etc. "

Exactly. Though I can see a case in terms of familiarity, but again it all come down to context.

"I'm going out with the women" doesn't have the same ring to it

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod

over a year ago

East Sussex


"Woman is fine by me. It describes how I identify.

And this - I'm trying to imagine a scenario where "woman" is a red flag for me, and I can't think of one

I like being described as a woman. I am one, I think it sounds as if the person saying or writing it acknowledges that I'm an adult and on a par with them

For sure. I think a lot of these things are meaningless, truthfully, but when you add stuff up, it can lead in different directions. (A different example. "Are you on the pill?" has very different connotations from your doctor, your friend struggling with their periods, and a message on Fab. Same with various terms for adult female person. I just can't think of a bad example for woman right now)"

My ex husband used to refer to 'bloody women ' if I was behaving in a way he didn't like mind you be also used to fling 'bloody foreigners ' at me too.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod

over a year ago

East Sussex


"Can honestly say I’m really not bothered.

With Nora on that one.

It's within the context of how it's used and by the person using it. In some cases it's a regional/culture/generational thing.

Loads of people see girl as a no no. I’ve always said it. I’m a girl. I go out with the girls etc.

Exactly. Though I can see a case in terms of familiarity, but again it all come down to context.

"I'm going out with the women" doesn't have the same ring to it "

I often say I'm going out with my women friends.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Woman is fine by me. It describes how I identify.

And this - I'm trying to imagine a scenario where "woman" is a red flag for me, and I can't think of one

I like being described as a woman. I am one, I think it sounds as if the person saying or writing it acknowledges that I'm an adult and on a par with them

For sure. I think a lot of these things are meaningless, truthfully, but when you add stuff up, it can lead in different directions. (A different example. "Are you on the pill?" has very different connotations from your doctor, your friend struggling with their periods, and a message on Fab. Same with various terms for adult female person. I just can't think of a bad example for woman right now)

My ex husband used to refer to 'bloody women ' if I was behaving in a way he didn't like mind you be also used to fling 'bloody foreigners ' at me too. "

Yeah, ok, there's one

But - all about context

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By *ormerWelshcouple2020Man
over a year ago

Stourbridge


"I’m going to Google incel.

You will probably regret it "

Well I just wanted to know what it means.

Now I know, and didn’t see anything nasty!

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"I’m going to Google incel.

You will probably regret it

Well I just wanted to know what it means.

Now I know, and didn’t see anything nasty! "

The involuntary celibate community has subsets that lionise men who kill women and men who get in the way of them getting the sex they believe they deserve.

One early example of this is Elliott Rogers

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod

over a year ago

East Sussex


"I’m going to Google incel.

You will probably regret it

Well I just wanted to know what it means.

Now I know, and didn’t see anything nasty! "

Didn't you

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"I’m going to Google incel.

You will probably regret it

Well I just wanted to know what it means.

Now I know, and didn’t see anything nasty!

Didn't you "

Yeah...

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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago

Away for Christmas


"Can honestly say I’m really not bothered.

With Nora on that one.

It's within the context of how it's used and by the person using it. In some cases it's a regional/culture/generational thing.

Loads of people see girl as a no no. I’ve always said it. I’m a girl. I go out with the girls etc.

Exactly. Though I can see a case in terms of familiarity, but again it all come down to context.

"I'm going out with the women" doesn't have the same ring to it

I often say I'm going out with my women friends. "

Has an extra word tagged on to the end though. Because women is not as "friendly" a word as girls, it has an impersonal vibe to it. That's why women alone does not sound quite right.

Words are complex and while none of them are wrong directly, we pick to say certain words because of how they vibe with our personalities and associations with them. Even the use of female is not as sinister as people make out nor is it wrong, but it certainly does have ties to being used as a way of disrespect which is where most associations come from.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod

over a year ago

East Sussex


"Can honestly say I’m really not bothered.

With Nora on that one.

It's within the context of how it's used and by the person using it. In some cases it's a regional/culture/generational thing.

Loads of people see girl as a no no. I’ve always said it. I’m a girl. I go out with the girls etc.

Exactly. Though I can see a case in terms of familiarity, but again it all come down to context.

"I'm going out with the women" doesn't have the same ring to it

I often say I'm going out with my women friends.

Has an extra word tagged on to the end though. Because women is not as "friendly" a word as girls, it has an impersonal vibe to it. That's why women alone does not sound quite right.

Words are complex and while none of them are wrong directly, we pick to say certain words because of how they vibe with our personalities and associations with them. Even the use of female is not as sinister as people make out nor is it wrong, but it certainly does have ties to being used as a way of disrespect which is where most associations come from. "

Do you see the word 'women' or 'woman' as impersonal? That's interesting.

I agree that words are complex because I see the use of the phrase 'going out with the girls ' as far more impersonal than 'seeing my women friends ' it just goes to show that the pen really is mightier than the sword.

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By *eroLondonMan
over a year ago

Mayfair

I shall in earnest take on-board all the useful comments on here and adapt accordingly.

• When I seductively smack your derrière I shall excaim "good woman!" and not "good girl!".

• We shall assume the Reverse Cowwoman position and not the 'Cowgirl.

• And when you take your leave and go out socialising, it's a "Women's Night Out" and not a "Girl's Night Out".

• Put a penny in that jukebox and select Duran Duran's "Women On Film" and not "Girls On Film".

• When you go to 'powder your nose' make sure you use "Benefit™ BANG! BADwoman volumising mascara" and not 'BADgirl (sic).

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"I shall in earnest take on-board all the useful comments on here and adapt accordingly.

• When I seductively smack your derrière I shall excaim "good woman!" and not "good girl!".

• We shall assume the Reverse Cowwoman position and not the 'Cowgirl.

• And when you take your leave and go out socialising, it's a "Women's Night Out" and not a "Girl's Night Out".

• Put a penny in that jukebox and select Duran Duran's "Women On Film" and not "Girls On Film".

• When you go to 'powder your nose' make sure you use "Benefit™ BANG! BADwoman volumising mascara" and not 'BADgirl (sic).

"

Some of us use drugstore, daahling, like the plebs we are

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I go with the "adult human female" term - woman.

Calling an adult woman a "girl" is a throwback to the bad old days when men saw them as second class citizens. As to "female", it's dehumanising and should only be used (along with "male") to describe the bodies in crime thrillers.

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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago

Away for Christmas


"Can honestly say I’m really not bothered.

With Nora on that one.

It's within the context of how it's used and by the person using it. In some cases it's a regional/culture/generational thing.

Loads of people see girl as a no no. I’ve always said it. I’m a girl. I go out with the girls etc.

Exactly. Though I can see a case in terms of familiarity, but again it all come down to context.

"I'm going out with the women" doesn't have the same ring to it

I often say I'm going out with my women friends.

Has an extra word tagged on to the end though. Because women is not as "friendly" a word as girls, it has an impersonal vibe to it. That's why women alone does not sound quite right.

Words are complex and while none of them are wrong directly, we pick to say certain words because of how they vibe with our personalities and associations with them. Even the use of female is not as sinister as people make out nor is it wrong, but it certainly does have ties to being used as a way of disrespect which is where most associations come from.

Do you see the word 'women' or 'woman' as impersonal? That's interesting.

I agree that words are complex because I see the use of the phrase 'going out with the girls ' as far more impersonal than 'seeing my women friends ' it just goes to show that the pen really is mightier than the sword. "

In some cases yes, but partially with how words have been put to us in our lives. Women/woman is a more formal word anyway. People generally tend to try and opt for the more pleasant word.

The introduction of a new partner, while neither is the preferred option and I'd use neither myself but I'm pretty sure the majority of people would be less triggered by somebody saying "this is my girl" than they would "this is my woman". The former just having more affection associated with it along with being linked to girlfriend. Hell even "my lady" would generally get less backlash than a man introducing her as "my woman".

But again it's context in general.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Couldn't give a shit, life's too short to be offended by semantics.

Sarah

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod

over a year ago

East Sussex


"Can honestly say I’m really not bothered.

With Nora on that one.

It's within the context of how it's used and by the person using it. In some cases it's a regional/culture/generational thing.

Loads of people see girl as a no no. I’ve always said it. I’m a girl. I go out with the girls etc.

Exactly. Though I can see a case in terms of familiarity, but again it all come down to context.

"I'm going out with the women" doesn't have the same ring to it

I often say I'm going out with my women friends.

Has an extra word tagged on to the end though. Because women is not as "friendly" a word as girls, it has an impersonal vibe to it. That's why women alone does not sound quite right.

Words are complex and while none of them are wrong directly, we pick to say certain words because of how they vibe with our personalities and associations with them. Even the use of female is not as sinister as people make out nor is it wrong, but it certainly does have ties to being used as a way of disrespect which is where most associations come from.

Do you see the word 'women' or 'woman' as impersonal? That's interesting.

I agree that words are complex because I see the use of the phrase 'going out with the girls ' as far more impersonal than 'seeing my women friends ' it just goes to show that the pen really is mightier than the sword.

In some cases yes, but partially with how words have been put to us in our lives. Women/woman is a more formal word anyway. People generally tend to try and opt for the more pleasant word.

The introduction of a new partner, while neither is the preferred option and I'd use neither myself but I'm pretty sure the majority of people would be less triggered by somebody saying "this is my girl" than they would "this is my woman". The former just having more affection associated with it along with being linked to girlfriend. Hell even "my lady" would generally get less backlash than a man introducing her as "my woman".

But again it's context in general. "

I can see what you're saying.

Going back to my ex husband, he always introduced me as 'my wife' I pointed out to him that I had a name and if he could just use that it would be fine . This was one of the occasions he referred to 'bloody women' .

I do take your point it is context.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod

over a year ago

East Sussex


"I go with the "adult human female" term - woman.

"

Agreed but people don't seem to like it

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By *ormerWelshcouple2020Man
over a year ago

Stourbridge


"I’m going to Google incel.

You will probably regret it

Well I just wanted to know what it means.

Now I know, and didn’t see anything nasty!

Didn't you "

No just a definition

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don’t really care all that much to be honest, I just don’t like being called pet names like “babe” and “hun”.

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By *ornycougaWoman
over a year ago

Wherever I lay my hat

Pretty agnostic about it all. Totally depends on the person and the context

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod

over a year ago

East Sussex


"I’m going to Google incel.

You will probably regret it

Well I just wanted to know what it means.

Now I know, and didn’t see anything nasty!

Didn't you

No just a definition "

Ok

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By *resesse_Meliorem OP   Couple
over a year ago

Border of London


"

Do you see the word 'women' or 'woman' as impersonal? That's interesting. "

I'm going out with the girls.

I'm going out with the boys.

I'm going out with the guys. (perhaps "girls/gals" as the feminine equivalent of "guys" makes things murkier?)

I'm going out with my women friends.

I'm going out with my men friends. (in practice, would anyone ever say this?)

My 45 year old girlfriend.

My 45 year old boyfriend.

Nothing's simple...

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By *inger_SnapWoman
over a year ago

Hampshire/Dorset

I don't like female or girl, it's quite demeaning.

I'm a grown woman, so woman or lady is preferred.

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By *hePerkyPumpkinTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol

I've seen people take offence at all of them... maybe aside from Woman.

Woman, seems to be fairly universally tolerated.

As a man, I honestly don't care what you refer to me as... they all work fine.

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By *hePerkyPumpkinTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol

Does remind me of something though.

Every body loves a bad boy

Nobody likes a bad man

Boy bands are cool

Man bands sounds like denim and beer guts and badly played rock

A good boy is sweet

A good man is wholesome

These words all lead us to different interpretations of each other.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Does remind me of something though.

Every body loves a bad boy

Nobody likes a bad man

Boy bands are cool

Man bands sounds like denim and beer guts and badly played rock

A good boy is sweet

A good man is wholesome

These words all lead us to different interpretations of each other.

"

Yeah, language isn't straightforward. Hence why words only lean in certain directions.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Chic / Dame.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod

over a year ago

East Sussex

For the sake of clarity I don't take offence at the words you use to identify me. I save offence for important stuff.

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By *resesse_Meliorem OP   Couple
over a year ago

Border of London


"Chic / Dame. "

Forgot these

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By *m3232Man
over a year ago

maidenhead

I would first say Lady then Female but I don’t think I would ever use girl in someone I am interested in.

Girl would be classed as underage imo so only used in that context of a young person

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I would first say Lady then Female but I don’t think I would ever use girl in someone I am interested in.

Girl would be classed as underage imo so only used in that context of a young person "

No no no.

I use girl lots. There’s a certain personality that suits girl. In fact, I text a certain girl who I would refer to as girl. But, then she’s smart, and I’d say she’s a very clever woman. And when I see her face or a sexy photo, I think she’s an amazing vision of beauty and she is one sexy lady.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Chic / Dame.

Forgot these "

Don’t worry Lass.

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By *abasaurus RexMan
over a year ago

Gloucestershire

I hate the word horny in some contexts but not others, and assume others have the same pet hates about specific words. Sadly, I’ve yet to figure out a way to write without words, so have just come to accept I’m probably giving someone the ick!

Also, ick is an ick. Just saying.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I’m going to Google incel. "

Come back safe

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By *izzy.miss.lizzyCouple
over a year ago

Pembrokeshire

I like the term lady or I did till it got ripped the p out of by david walliams and such...!

I guess girl can be a bit triggering or maybe flattering depending on who you say it to, and under what circumstances

female seems to objectify

woman is ok, I think, again, depends on the context

It seems to be getting increasingly difficult to remain socially sensitive these days,

guess it's best to ask the person what they prefer, although I have come acros some who take offense at being asked.

Confused dot com

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I hate the word horny in some contexts but not others, and assume others have the same pet hates about specific words. Sadly, I’ve yet to figure out a way to write without words, so have just come to accept I’m probably giving someone the ick!

Also, ick is an ick. Just saying. "

*offers a virtual drink.

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