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Argos, iceland and more are closing on the high street.

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By *hagTonight OP   Man
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.

I read an article about it,how big retail chains are closing on the high street, like argos, b&w, iceland, homesense and more.

I was really surprised about it, it said that they have been struggling for years and now they cant continue. I was particularly surprised that argos are closing.

Is one reason because of the cost of living have increased and brexit?

What is your view about it?

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By *idnight RamblerMan
over a year ago

Pershore

The internet has changed retail for ever. Now we sit at home comparing brands, designs, prices and wait for the parcels to arrive. High Streets will contract to a handful of specialist stores. It's better to accept this social change and plan towns for residential homes with parks, cafes, restaurants etc instead of shops.

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By *ichaelangelaCouple
over a year ago

notts

Argos is owned be Sainsbury.

Argos are moving into Sainsbury stores

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

They are trying to move everything online it's happening with few banks as well getting people to use online banking more so they can monitor your spending

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By *ribsaMan
over a year ago

A box at end of your bed


"Argos is owned be Sainsbury.

Argos are moving into Sainsbury stores "

I had noticed a lot of Argos stores inside sainsbury nowadays but didn't realise Argos was owned by them it make sense to put both under one roof and save money as most sainsbury stores are in large enough buildings to do that.

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By *hilledGuyClactonMan
over a year ago

Little clacton

I think Wilkinson's and maybe a few Screwfix stores will be going.

But only going to get worse from April electric/gas is going to jump to around 10k a month for businesses.

Cannot even see supermarkets staying open 7 days a week.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They are trying to move everything online it's happening with few banks as well getting people to use online banking more so they can monitor your spending "

My nearest branch was 70 miles away and that closed last year

I don't actually know where my nearest branch is now ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Basically Amazon has taken over everything that Argos used to do and beat them in the delivery war.

Given the rocketing cost of driving and parking and escalating commercial property costs driving up retail prices outfits with additional costs of shop fronts are going to struggle.

COVID lockdown has also changed our shopping habits irreversibly.

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By *he love catsCouple
over a year ago

South Wales

Argos have been putting their prices up lately since going into the Sainsbury's store's, for example we wanted a hozelock on a reel, Argos price £70 plus I had to go and collect it, a quick search eBay £47 for an identical one delivered, that's the reason plain and simple they just can't compete anymore.

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By *urls and DressesWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere near here

I’m not surprised by Argos. It’s more expensive that Amazon, their website is clunky and it’s not obvious that you can look before you buy.

I worked in Argos some 18 years ago, we were always busy, now it’s always deserted, even at Christmas

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle


"They are trying to move everything online it's happening with few banks as well getting people to use online banking more so they can monitor your spending

My nearest branch was 70 miles away and that closed last year

I don't actually know where my nearest branch is now ..."

Exactly its not going to help just adding further problems few years ago a percentage of Lloyds Bank shut and been talks a further more will be people will end up closing their accounts and moving to another branch as not everyone likes using online and not everyone has transport welcome to moving forward whereas supposed to be improvements sending everything backwards and beyond

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By *hagTonight OP   Man
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.


"The internet has changed retail for ever. Now we sit at home comparing brands, designs, prices and wait for the parcels to arrive. High Streets will contract to a handful of specialist stores. It's better to accept this social change and plan towns for residential homes with parks, cafes, restaurants etc instead of shops."
Yes, that is also one of the reasons, as more people are using the internet to buy things.

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle


"The internet has changed retail for ever. Now we sit at home comparing brands, designs, prices and wait for the parcels to arrive. High Streets will contract to a handful of specialist stores. It's better to accept this social change and plan towns for residential homes with parks, cafes, restaurants etc instead of shops."

It's something that they've learnt via lockdown and maybe even the profit so now trying to force something in their own favour regardless of a customers choice

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By *ycanNightsMan
over a year ago

Workington


"The internet has changed retail for ever. Now we sit at home comparing brands, designs, prices and wait for the parcels to arrive. High Streets will contract to a handful of specialist stores. It's better to accept this social change and plan towns for residential homes with parks, cafes, restaurants etc instead of shops."

I think this true...but a bit of a disclaimer. Places like London , Manchester, Newcastle etc with large shopping area...have turned shopping into more a leisure experience. These places will continue to thrive. Your standard provincial town cannot offer the same experience.

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By *agerMorganMan
over a year ago

Canvey Island

Let’s not forget the landlords hands in this. Commercial property rents are notoriously high, not to mention the cheaper places are well out of the way and not in a place people can really get to.

Web servers and sites are tens of thousands of pounds cheaper, even a well made and maintained site is still cheaper than renting one or two stores over the year.

Also, a lot of people have started to slowly realise that high streets are dead, why pay for parking? Dodge the local troublemakers and not have to put up with store staff that really don’t want to be there.

The high street is dead, turn the empty stores into homes and have done with it.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

There's too much greed and lack of longer term planning and investment, in much UK businesses.

Much of the increases in shopping prices is greedflation. The public taken for mugs to be mugged, whilst distracted by Ukraine etc, whilst they have ensured high returns.

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

Most of this will be for not being in the European Union it was a bad idea from the start now we're seeing the impact

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By *ichaelangelaCouple
over a year ago

notts

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By *ichaelangelaCouple
over a year ago

notts


"Most of this will be for not being in the European Union it was a bad idea from the start now we're seeing the impact "

I remember before we joined, it was known as the common market then, and the UK was thriving,

we had a motor industry for a start, engineering was second to none. so much industry, all gone since we joined the EU.

Just saying, not trying to start an argument or say one was better than the other

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think it's just the natural shift to online shopping which is better for a lot of (though not all) things. Covid lockdowns accelerated the trend.

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By *lym4realCouple
over a year ago

plymouth

Well we all carry some of the blame for the slow lingering death of our high street but was on the cards from the beginning 1st the superdupermarkets arrive promising jobs galore eye boggling choice and low prices and so the greengrocer goes then the butcher then the fishmonger then the small diy shops then the electricl shops then everything else follows ?? and now the Banks are following suit and all about control in the end and have a cuppa and just think what a true cashless society will mean for everyone and especially the worse off in our society ( don't act all angry or surprised when bank charges increase )

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Work in town centre many shops are closing because the rents the councils are charging are so disproportionate don’t forget licences and other add ons many shops just can’t afford it most are moving out of towns to retail park’s cheaper rents soon the high streets just going to be eating or drinking

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod

over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset


"They are trying to move everything online it's happening with few banks as well getting people to use online banking more so they can monitor your spending "

Banks have always been able to monitor spending bar cash transactions.

They honestly don't care what you buy - fruit, veg, wardrobes or dildos.

The only time they pay any attention is when you want to borrow money or when your home insurance is up for renewal.

Nobody gives a fuck if you subscribe to Sky, Virgin or some porn site.

A

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By *hagTonight OP   Man
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Used to work At Sainsbury’s down south Argos in there patisserie val was in there a sushi bar

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By *hagTonight OP   Man
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.


"Argos is owned be Sainsbury.

Argos are moving into Sainsbury stores "

Yes, they are and I have also heard that they will move into sainsbury stores. I gather it is a way of saving on costs as well.

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By *opman121Man
over a year ago

stoke on trent

Think the height street shop will be a thing of the past in the next couple of years. Internet shopping will take over well I think it ?

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

Don’t really use any of those stores. Businesses need to adapt and focus high streets on things suited to the high street like experience , rather than try to compete with online on cost/choice

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle


"Most of this will be for not being in the European Union it was a bad idea from the start now we're seeing the impact

I remember before we joined, it was known as the common market then, and the UK was thriving,

we had a motor industry for a start, engineering was second to none. so much industry, all gone since we joined the EU.

Just saying, not trying to start an argument or say one was better than the other"

I totally understand what you're saying but we can see the sudden change and impact

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle


"They are trying to move everything online it's happening with few banks as well getting people to use online banking more so they can monitor your spending

Banks have always been able to monitor spending bar cash transactions.

They honestly don't care what you buy - fruit, veg, wardrobes or dildos.

The only time they pay any attention is when you want to borrow money or when your home insurance is up for renewal.

Nobody gives a fuck if you subscribe to Sky, Virgin or some porn site.

A"

It's all down to a marketing strategy as information is the most valuable asset nothing else

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Don’t really use any of those stores. Businesses need to adapt and focus high streets on things suited to the high street like experience , rather than try to compete with online on cost/choice"

Agree. Like everything else it will evolve. The smart ones will adapt and do well. The rest will disappear.

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By *ryandseeMan
over a year ago

Yorkshire

Whilst I shop online too, I try to support high street and local shops as much as I can. It will be a shame to see them go, nothing like a good visual and tactile experience. I also use cash as much as I can as I certainly don't want to see that going too in favour of card payments only. I refuse to shop anywhere that they explicitly only accept cards. We all to blame as well as having to do our but to avoid further erosion of the services we are used to and indeed the only option still for some people.

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By *arkus1812Man
over a year ago

Lifes departure lounge NN9 Northamptonshire East not West MidlandsMidlands


"I’m not surprised by Argos. It’s more expensive that Amazon, their website is clunky and it’s not obvious that you can look before you buy.

I worked in Argos some 18 years ago, we were always busy, now it’s always deserted, even at Christmas "

My Ninja was bought from Argos for £200, Amazon were asking £219 for the same item. So Amazon are not always cheaper.

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford

Our argos we had in town moved in to sainsburys years ago they own them now! Which is cool as we get discount x

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By *ancs29Man
over a year ago

oldham

Its everything started off with covid and the increase on internet shopping and people not using the high street shops the war increasing energy prices big changes afoot i think local town centers are undergoing regeneration this has needed doing years ago to

late comesto mind

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By *a LunaWoman
over a year ago

South Wales

Really? Cos I’m pretty sure my Iceland orders are keeping them well afloat!!

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By *hagTonight OP   Man
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.


"They are trying to move everything online it's happening with few banks as well getting people to use online banking more so they can monitor your spending "
Yes, they are trying to move everything online as well, that is also one of the reasons for it.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

It'll help the fifteen minute city and the evolution of the social credit score

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham


"Whilst I shop online too, I try to support high street and local shops as much as I can. It will be a shame to see them go, nothing like a good visual and tactile experience. I also use cash as much as I can as I certainly don't want to see that going too in favour of card payments only. I refuse to shop anywhere that they explicitly only accept cards. We all to blame as well as having to do our but to avoid further erosion of the services we are used to and indeed the only option still for some people. "

You’re just prolonging the agony. If they good good business models they will grow without sympathy or subsidy .

Cash just incentivises those who evade tax, typically backward looking small businesses who have no desire to take risks, change and grow.

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham


"I’m not surprised by Argos. It’s more expensive that Amazon, their website is clunky and it’s not obvious that you can look before you buy.

I worked in Argos some 18 years ago, we were always busy, now it’s always deserted, even at Christmas

My Ninja was bought from Argos for £200, Amazon were asking £219 for the same item. So Amazon are not always cheaper."

Far from it ! Amazon’s USP’s are speed and availability not price. Whatever you want they will have it and soon will deliver sane day, and 1 hour drone delivery within 5 years I would imagine !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Argos is owned be Sainsbury.

Argos are moving into Sainsbury stores "

In my opinion, Sainsburys are killing Argos

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By *hagTonight OP   Man
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.


"I think Wilkinson's and maybe a few Screwfix stores will be going.

But only going to get worse from April electric/gas is going to jump to around 10k a month for businesses.

Cannot even see supermarkets staying open 7 days a week."

Yes, they might also be going, you are right there, it will be more expensive, as well with the electricity and gas too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So many companies are closing stores, it's been going on for months. High streets are dead because people shop online more, go to retail parks and shopping centers that have more options etc Rents go up, business can't afford them because footfall is down so the branch closes and gives people less reason to go to the high Street. Its not going to change. I'm happy to shop online mostly but there are times when I'd like to try something on in person but if tye options aren't there then I'll stick with the online shopping and free returns.

Pxx

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By *hagTonight OP   Man
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.


"So many companies are closing stores, it's been going on for months. High streets are dead because people shop online more, go to retail parks and shopping centers that have more options etc Rents go up, business can't afford them because footfall is down so the branch closes and gives people less reason to go to the high Street. Its not going to change. I'm happy to shop online mostly but there are times when I'd like to try something on in person but if tye options aren't there then I'll stick with the online shopping and free returns.

Pxx"

Yes, you are also right there, many stores are closing as most people are now buying things online, same here. I also buy online, but as well look I look in the stores on the high street x

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By *oubleswing2019Man
over a year ago

Colchester

I shop online, exclusively so. Have no need for the high street anymore, it's dead to me. Don't go there to socialise either. That's done round friends houses or ours.

I can think of no merit or need to visit the high st any more.

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By *ryandseeMan
over a year ago

Yorkshire


"Whilst I shop online too, I try to support high street and local shops as much as I can. It will be a shame to see them go, nothing like a good visual and tactile experience. I also use cash as much as I can as I certainly don't want to see that going too in favour of card payments only. I refuse to shop anywhere that they explicitly only accept cards. We all to blame as well as having to do our but to avoid further erosion of the services we are used to and indeed the only option still for some people.

You’re just prolonging the agony. If they good good business models they will grow without sympathy or subsidy .

Cash just incentivises those who evade tax, typically backward looking small businesses who have no desire to take risks, change and grow.

"

You have really missed all the points. I enjoy the interaction in shops. I also don't want to be tipping a busker in the street that gave me a memorable musical moment with my credit card. Just a couple of a myriad of examples I can mention why I don't want everything to go online or cashless. Not to mention so many elderly people who won't and most cases can't do that. I can't just always think what suits me only. However I appreciate that people have choices and preferences.

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By *hagTonight OP   Man
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.

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By *ang bang bangity bangCouple
over a year ago

Sunderland

Argos makes no sense. It's a dead business model.

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By *hePerkyPumpkinTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol

I spent about three hours walking around Bristol earlier today trying to find a nice pair of leather boots... I walked in to every shop I could think of and found nothing I liked, very minimal selection at that.

I came home empty handed.

Went online and within minutes found some lovely boots at a very reasonable price, and they'll be delivered tomorrow.

The high street can't compete with that, and from I what I see it isn't even trying too.

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By *ts the taking part thatMan
over a year ago

southampton


"Argos makes no sense. It's a dead business model. "

Yep, they hold absolutely minimal stock so if you have to order it you may as well Amazon or Ebay and have it delivered.

You snooze you lose!

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By *pank the MonkeyCouple
over a year ago

Down the Rabbit Hole and Round the Corner

Online is the future. This form of shopping is generally easier for the shopper and more cost effective for the retailer.

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
over a year ago

Horsham


"They are trying to move everything online it's happening with few banks as well getting people to use online banking more so they can monitor your spending "

A by product of this is less workers, less buildings to pay for, more profits for the companies.

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
over a year ago

Horsham

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My view is the internet has to a lot to do with it. The last time I went to Argos they didn't have a catalogue anymore. Instead they told me to look online, and when you look online you come across people selling similar products at a lower price out of their bedrooms with no overheads.

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle


"They are trying to move everything online it's happening with few banks as well getting people to use online banking more so they can monitor your spending

A by product of this is less workers, less buildings to pay for, more profits for the companies."

Yes and further information for marketing which also gains a huge amount of profit which gets sold on further down the chain

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By *d59michelleTV/TS
over a year ago

walsall


"Argos is owned be Sainsbury.

Argos are moving into Sainsbury stores

In my opinion, Sainsburys are killing Argos"

Went downhill since they stopped the Catalogue and the monthly sale leaflets

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Argos is owned be Sainsbury.

Argos are moving into Sainsbury stores

In my opinion, Sainsburys are killing Argos

Went downhill since they stopped the Catalogue and the monthly sale leaflets "

Went downhill when their customer engagement team didn't recognise the threat from Amazon and react appropriately.

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By *enny PR9TV/TS
over a year ago

Southport


"Argos is owned be Sainsbury.

Argos are moving into Sainsbury stores

In my opinion, Sainsburys are killing Argos

Went downhill since they stopped the Catalogue and the monthly sale leaflets

Went downhill when their customer engagement team didn't recognise the threat from Amazon and react appropriately."

I use my nearest Argos to pick up my parcels from Ebay.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some people don't seem to care that our high streets are dying and out towns are becoming ghost towns. I find it all sad and depressing.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Some people don't seem to care that our high streets are dying and out towns are becoming ghost towns. I find it all sad and depressing. "

I find change exciting - a chance to renew. Why do we have to have high streets where spending is considered compulsory? Why can't we just have places to be?

These shops named in this thread aren't really vital to high streets - I think most of the colour in those are the independents, to the extent that those live on.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Some people don't seem to care that our high streets are dying and out towns are becoming ghost towns. I find it all sad and depressing.

I find change exciting - a chance to renew. Why do we have to have high streets where spending is considered compulsory? Why can't we just have places to be?

These shops named in this thread aren't really vital to high streets - I think most of the colour in those are the independents, to the extent that those live on. "

What you mean just turn all our shops into flats? Because that is how it's going and has already gone in many places.

Okay these shops aren't really vital but these kind of shops are getting less and less. Independents are struggling too.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Some people don't seem to care that our high streets are dying and out towns are becoming ghost towns. I find it all sad and depressing.

I find change exciting - a chance to renew. Why do we have to have high streets where spending is considered compulsory? Why can't we just have places to be?

These shops named in this thread aren't really vital to high streets - I think most of the colour in those are the independents, to the extent that those live on.

What you mean just turn all our shops into flats? Because that is how it's going and has already gone in many places.

Okay these shops aren't really vital but these kind of shops are getting less and less. Independents are struggling too.

"

Did I say turning them into flats?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Some people don't seem to care that our high streets are dying and out towns are becoming ghost towns. I find it all sad and depressing.

I find change exciting - a chance to renew. Why do we have to have high streets where spending is considered compulsory? Why can't we just have places to be?

These shops named in this thread aren't really vital to high streets - I think most of the colour in those are the independents, to the extent that those live on.

What you mean just turn all our shops into flats? Because that is how it's going and has already gone in many places.

Okay these shops aren't really vital but these kind of shops are getting less and less. Independents are struggling too.

"

Towns change and it is always for the better.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Some people don't seem to care that our high streets are dying and out towns are becoming ghost towns. I find it all sad and depressing.

I find change exciting - a chance to renew. Why do we have to have high streets where spending is considered compulsory? Why can't we just have places to be?

These shops named in this thread aren't really vital to high streets - I think most of the colour in those are the independents, to the extent that those live on.

What you mean just turn all our shops into flats? Because that is how it's going and has already gone in many places.

Okay these shops aren't really vital but these kind of shops are getting less and less. Independents are struggling too.

Did I say turning them into flats?"

That is the reality. What else do you think ? Swing clubs or ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I mean towns change and it isn't always for the better. I see towns getting more fucked up.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Some people don't seem to care that our high streets are dying and out towns are becoming ghost towns. I find it all sad and depressing.

I find change exciting - a chance to renew. Why do we have to have high streets where spending is considered compulsory? Why can't we just have places to be?

These shops named in this thread aren't really vital to high streets - I think most of the colour in those are the independents, to the extent that those live on.

What you mean just turn all our shops into flats? Because that is how it's going and has already gone in many places.

Okay these shops aren't really vital but these kind of shops are getting less and less. Independents are struggling too.

Did I say turning them into flats?

That is the reality. What else do you think ? Swing clubs or ? "

That might not be happening now. It isn't inevitable.

I'd have them be community spaces. Not everything is about money.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Some people don't seem to care that our high streets are dying and out towns are becoming ghost towns. I find it all sad and depressing.

I find change exciting - a chance to renew. Why do we have to have high streets where spending is considered compulsory? Why can't we just have places to be?

These shops named in this thread aren't really vital to high streets - I think most of the colour in those are the independents, to the extent that those live on.

What you mean just turn all our shops into flats? Because that is how it's going and has already gone in many places.

Okay these shops aren't really vital but these kind of shops are getting less and less. Independents are struggling too.

Did I say turning them into flats?

That is the reality. What else do you think ? Swing clubs or ?

That might not be happening now. It isn't inevitable.

I'd have them be community spaces. Not everything is about money."

Flats they will become, its already happening. The odd one community spaces.

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By *tsJustKateWoman
over a year ago

London

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Some people don't seem to care that our high streets are dying and out towns are becoming ghost towns. I find it all sad and depressing.

I find change exciting - a chance to renew. Why do we have to have high streets where spending is considered compulsory? Why can't we just have places to be?

These shops named in this thread aren't really vital to high streets - I think most of the colour in those are the independents, to the extent that those live on.

What you mean just turn all our shops into flats? Because that is how it's going and has already gone in many places.

Okay these shops aren't really vital but these kind of shops are getting less and less. Independents are struggling too.

Did I say turning them into flats?

That is the reality. What else do you think ? Swing clubs or ?

That might not be happening now. It isn't inevitable.

I'd have them be community spaces. Not everything is about money.

Flats they will become, its already happening. The odd one community spaces.

"

Ok, cool.

If the choice is stores like Argos or flats, I choose flats all the way.

I hope there will be better eventually. But I'm not going to cry about the loss of something I don't value.

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By *tsJustKateWoman
over a year ago

London

Argos started closing branches years ago, nothing new!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The likes of argos and Iceland were alternative shopping styles in their day, hey were prob responsible for affecting generic shops, it's to be expected evolution of consumer activity will take place. As mentioned, lockdown likely accelerated it but the consumer is choosing online more and more. Some shops in my town lay empty, council demolished them and landscaped the area.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Some people don't seem to care that our high streets are dying and out towns are becoming ghost towns. I find it all sad and depressing.

I find change exciting - a chance to renew. Why do we have to have high streets where spending is considered compulsory? Why can't we just have places to be?

These shops named in this thread aren't really vital to high streets - I think most of the colour in those are the independents, to the extent that those live on.

What you mean just turn all our shops into flats? Because that is how it's going and has already gone in many places.

Okay these shops aren't really vital but these kind of shops are getting less and less. Independents are struggling too.

Did I say turning them into flats?

That is the reality. What else do you think ? Swing clubs or ?

That might not be happening now. It isn't inevitable.

I'd have them be community spaces. Not everything is about money.

Flats they will become, its already happening. The odd one community spaces.

Ok, cool.

If the choice is stores like Argos or flats, I choose flats all the way.

I hope there will be better eventually. But I'm not going to cry about the loss of something I don't value."

We are not only talking about Argos.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Some people don't seem to care that our high streets are dying and out towns are becoming ghost towns. I find it all sad and depressing.

I find change exciting - a chance to renew. Why do we have to have high streets where spending is considered compulsory? Why can't we just have places to be?

These shops named in this thread aren't really vital to high streets - I think most of the colour in those are the independents, to the extent that those live on.

What you mean just turn all our shops into flats? Because that is how it's going and has already gone in many places.

Okay these shops aren't really vital but these kind of shops are getting less and less. Independents are struggling too.

Did I say turning them into flats?

That is the reality. What else do you think ? Swing clubs or ?

That might not be happening now. It isn't inevitable.

I'd have them be community spaces. Not everything is about money.

Flats they will become, its already happening. The odd one community spaces.

Ok, cool.

If the choice is stores like Argos or flats, I choose flats all the way.

I hope there will be better eventually. But I'm not going to cry about the loss of something I don't value.

We are not only talking about Argos. "

Ok. Cool.

My comments stand.

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By *ris GrayMan
over a year ago

Dorchester


"I read an article about it,how big retail chains are closing on the high street, like argos, b&w, iceland, homesense and more.

I was really surprised about it, it said that they have been struggling for years and now they cant continue. I was particularly surprised that argos are closing.

Is one reason because of the cost of living have increased and brexit?

What is your view about it?"

No its solely because of the Internet, technology and the move to do away with cash

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Some people don't seem to care that our high streets are dying and out towns are becoming ghost towns. I find it all sad and depressing.

I find change exciting - a chance to renew. Why do we have to have high streets where spending is considered compulsory? Why can't we just have places to be?

These shops named in this thread aren't really vital to high streets - I think most of the colour in those are the independents, to the extent that those live on.

What you mean just turn all our shops into flats? Because that is how it's going and has already gone in many places.

Okay these shops aren't really vital but these kind of shops are getting less and less. Independents are struggling too.

Did I say turning them into flats?

That is the reality. What else do you think ? Swing clubs or ?

That might not be happening now. It isn't inevitable.

I'd have them be community spaces. Not everything is about money.

Flats they will become, its already happening. The odd one community spaces.

Ok, cool.

If the choice is stores like Argos or flats, I choose flats all the way.

I hope there will be better eventually. But I'm not going to cry about the loss of something I don't value.

We are not only talking about Argos.

Ok. Cool.

My comments stand."

Not cool. It's quite sad actually. Just imagine going out and there are no shops what a misery lol

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Some people don't seem to care that our high streets are dying and out towns are becoming ghost towns. I find it all sad and depressing.

I find change exciting - a chance to renew. Why do we have to have high streets where spending is considered compulsory? Why can't we just have places to be?

These shops named in this thread aren't really vital to high streets - I think most of the colour in those are the independents, to the extent that those live on.

What you mean just turn all our shops into flats? Because that is how it's going and has already gone in many places.

Okay these shops aren't really vital but these kind of shops are getting less and less. Independents are struggling too.

Did I say turning them into flats?

That is the reality. What else do you think ? Swing clubs or ?

That might not be happening now. It isn't inevitable.

I'd have them be community spaces. Not everything is about money.

Flats they will become, its already happening. The odd one community spaces.

Ok, cool.

If the choice is stores like Argos or flats, I choose flats all the way.

I hope there will be better eventually. But I'm not going to cry about the loss of something I don't value.

We are not only talking about Argos.

Ok. Cool.

My comments stand.

Not cool. It's quite sad actually. Just imagine going out and there are no shops what a misery lol "

I don't like shops lol. It sounds great

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Some people don't seem to care that our high streets are dying and out towns are becoming ghost towns. I find it all sad and depressing.

I find change exciting - a chance to renew. Why do we have to have high streets where spending is considered compulsory? Why can't we just have places to be?

These shops named in this thread aren't really vital to high streets - I think most of the colour in those are the independents, to the extent that those live on.

What you mean just turn all our shops into flats? Because that is how it's going and has already gone in many places.

Okay these shops aren't really vital but these kind of shops are getting less and less. Independents are struggling too.

Did I say turning them into flats?

That is the reality. What else do you think ? Swing clubs or ?

That might not be happening now. It isn't inevitable.

I'd have them be community spaces. Not everything is about money.

Flats they will become, its already happening. The odd one community spaces.

Ok, cool.

If the choice is stores like Argos or flats, I choose flats all the way.

I hope there will be better eventually. But I'm not going to cry about the loss of something I don't value.

We are not only talking about Argos.

Ok. Cool.

My comments stand.

Not cool. It's quite sad actually. Just imagine going out and there are no shops what a misery lol

I don't like shops lol. It sounds great"

What's so great about that ?

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Some people don't seem to care that our high streets are dying and out towns are becoming ghost towns. I find it all sad and depressing.

I find change exciting - a chance to renew. Why do we have to have high streets where spending is considered compulsory? Why can't we just have places to be?

These shops named in this thread aren't really vital to high streets - I think most of the colour in those are the independents, to the extent that those live on.

What you mean just turn all our shops into flats? Because that is how it's going and has already gone in many places.

Okay these shops aren't really vital but these kind of shops are getting less and less. Independents are struggling too.

Did I say turning them into flats?

That is the reality. What else do you think ? Swing clubs or ?

That might not be happening now. It isn't inevitable.

I'd have them be community spaces. Not everything is about money.

Flats they will become, its already happening. The odd one community spaces.

Ok, cool.

If the choice is stores like Argos or flats, I choose flats all the way.

I hope there will be better eventually. But I'm not going to cry about the loss of something I don't value.

We are not only talking about Argos.

Ok. Cool.

My comments stand.

Not cool. It's quite sad actually. Just imagine going out and there are no shops what a misery lol

I don't like shops lol. It sounds great

What's so great about that ?"

You're asking me what's great about a place without something I don't like?

That's self explanatory.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Some people don't seem to care that our high streets are dying and out towns are becoming ghost towns. I find it all sad and depressing.

I find change exciting - a chance to renew. Why do we have to have high streets where spending is considered compulsory? Why can't we just have places to be?

These shops named in this thread aren't really vital to high streets - I think most of the colour in those are the independents, to the extent that those live on.

What you mean just turn all our shops into flats? Because that is how it's going and has already gone in many places.

Okay these shops aren't really vital but these kind of shops are getting less and less. Independents are struggling too.

Did I say turning them into flats?

That is the reality. What else do you think ? Swing clubs or ?

That might not be happening now. It isn't inevitable.

I'd have them be community spaces. Not everything is about money.

Flats they will become, its already happening. The odd one community spaces.

Ok, cool.

If the choice is stores like Argos or flats, I choose flats all the way.

I hope there will be better eventually. But I'm not going to cry about the loss of something I don't value.

We are not only talking about Argos.

Ok. Cool.

My comments stand.

Not cool. It's quite sad actually. Just imagine going out and there are no shops what a misery lol

I don't like shops lol. It sounds great

What's so great about that ?

You're asking me what's great about a place without something I don't like?

That's self explanatory."

Don't you want to go anywhere at all

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Some people don't seem to care that our high streets are dying and out towns are becoming ghost towns. I find it all sad and depressing.

I find change exciting - a chance to renew. Why do we have to have high streets where spending is considered compulsory? Why can't we just have places to be?

These shops named in this thread aren't really vital to high streets - I think most of the colour in those are the independents, to the extent that those live on.

What you mean just turn all our shops into flats? Because that is how it's going and has already gone in many places.

Okay these shops aren't really vital but these kind of shops are getting less and less. Independents are struggling too.

Did I say turning them into flats?

That is the reality. What else do you think ? Swing clubs or ?

That might not be happening now. It isn't inevitable.

I'd have them be community spaces. Not everything is about money.

Flats they will become, its already happening. The odd one community spaces.

Ok, cool.

If the choice is stores like Argos or flats, I choose flats all the way.

I hope there will be better eventually. But I'm not going to cry about the loss of something I don't value.

We are not only talking about Argos.

Ok. Cool.

My comments stand.

Not cool. It's quite sad actually. Just imagine going out and there are no shops what a misery lol

I don't like shops lol. It sounds great

What's so great about that ?

You're asking me what's great about a place without something I don't like?

That's self explanatory.

Don't you want to go anywhere at all "

So the options are shops or nowhere?

My world is a bit bigger than that Other stuff exists.

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By *ullyMan
over a year ago

Near Clacton

The internet has changed retail for ever. Now we sit at home comparing brands, designs, prices and wait for the parcels to arrive. High Streets will contract to a handful of specialist stores. It's better to accept this social change and plan towns for residential homes with parks, cafes, restaurants etc instead of shops.

Many reasons, people have woken up to the profits retailers get.

Retail parks, are cheaper to rent or lease etc. Online shopping, easier more choice no travel fees. And for me now having to shop for myself for the first time finding that so very much that one thought was "good olé British" products come for China. Look at clothing, highly respected stores like M&S for instance nigh on all of the clothing now is from Asia.

In these hard time people are more discerning as to where their pound goes.

That despite the lack of footfall in the high streets rents still go up rates still go up and of course business tax. Online onselling is so very easy and literally costs next to nothing to set up and run, and anyone can do it. I agree with all you say, and I don't see any hope of retailers returning to the high streets. Old long established businesses one thinks have gone from the high street have simply closed the shops and gone online.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Some people don't seem to care that our high streets are dying and out towns are becoming ghost towns. I find it all sad and depressing.

I find change exciting - a chance to renew. Why do we have to have high streets where spending is considered compulsory? Why can't we just have places to be?

These shops named in this thread aren't really vital to high streets - I think most of the colour in those are the independents, to the extent that those live on.

What you mean just turn all our shops into flats? Because that is how it's going and has already gone in many places.

Okay these shops aren't really vital but these kind of shops are getting less and less. Independents are struggling too.

Did I say turning them into flats?

That is the reality. What else do you think ? Swing clubs or ?

That might not be happening now. It isn't inevitable.

I'd have them be community spaces. Not everything is about money.

Flats they will become, its already happening. The odd one community spaces.

Ok, cool.

If the choice is stores like Argos or flats, I choose flats all the way.

I hope there will be better eventually. But I'm not going to cry about the loss of something I don't value.

We are not only talking about Argos.

Ok. Cool.

My comments stand.

Not cool. It's quite sad actually. Just imagine going out and there are no shops what a misery lol

I don't like shops lol. It sounds great

What's so great about that ?

You're asking me what's great about a place without something I don't like?

That's self explanatory.

Don't you want to go anywhere at all

So the options are shops or nowhere?

My world is a bit bigger than that Other stuff exists."

I didn't say that. I was looking for ideas, since flats seems to be the only answer.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Some people don't seem to care that our high streets are dying and out towns are becoming ghost towns. I find it all sad and depressing.

I find change exciting - a chance to renew. Why do we have to have high streets where spending is considered compulsory? Why can't we just have places to be?

These shops named in this thread aren't really vital to high streets - I think most of the colour in those are the independents, to the extent that those live on.

What you mean just turn all our shops into flats? Because that is how it's going and has already gone in many places.

Okay these shops aren't really vital but these kind of shops are getting less and less. Independents are struggling too.

Did I say turning them into flats?

That is the reality. What else do you think ? Swing clubs or ?

That might not be happening now. It isn't inevitable.

I'd have them be community spaces. Not everything is about money.

Flats they will become, its already happening. The odd one community spaces.

Ok, cool.

If the choice is stores like Argos or flats, I choose flats all the way.

I hope there will be better eventually. But I'm not going to cry about the loss of something I don't value.

We are not only talking about Argos.

Ok. Cool.

My comments stand.

Not cool. It's quite sad actually. Just imagine going out and there are no shops what a misery lol

I don't like shops lol. It sounds great

What's so great about that ?

You're asking me what's great about a place without something I don't like?

That's self explanatory.

Don't you want to go anywhere at all

So the options are shops or nowhere?

My world is a bit bigger than that Other stuff exists.

I didn't say that. I was looking for ideas, since flats seems to be the only answer. "

Community regeneration, public places where we can all go without spending money. I said it before.

The fact that it's not happening here doesn't mean it's not possible.

But I'll continue to avoid all the shitty shops.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The internet has changed retail for ever. Now we sit at home comparing brands, designs, prices and wait for the parcels to arrive. High Streets will contract to a handful of specialist stores. It's better to accept this social change and plan towns for residential homes with parks, cafes, restaurants etc instead of shops.

Many reasons, people have woken up to the profits retailers get.

Retail parks, are cheaper to rent or lease etc. Online shopping, easier more choice no travel fees. And for me now having to shop for myself for the first time finding that so very much that one thought was "good olé British" products come for China. Look at clothing, highly respected stores like M&S for instance nigh on all of the clothing now is from Asia.

In these hard time people are more discerning as to where their pound goes.

That despite the lack of footfall in the high streets rents still go up rates still go up and of course business tax. Online onselling is so very easy and literally costs next to nothing to set up and run, and anyone can do it. I agree with all you say, and I don't see any hope of retailers returning to the high streets. Old long established businesses one thinks have gone from the high street have simply closed the shops and gone online."

parks with a few shops dotted around sounds nice

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By *ornucopiaMan
over a year ago

Bexley

Argos and Iceland are probably closing due to the cost of chaving crisis.

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By *htcMan
over a year ago

MK

But they are closing because of some of the areas they are in are being rebuilt or have moved to new premises not because of trade.

The media spreads half the story.

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