FabSwingers.com forum: Entry fee....

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Recent events (pardon the pun) have raised the question of where's the line on money and sex?

I'm talking about people asking for an 'entry fee' to attend a private sex party or gangbang (not a public social).

What makes it a party and not pr*stituti*n?

Do you need to provide snacks?

Maximum or minimum numbers?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I guess whether there’s a guarantee you’d get sex or not?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The day I’d pay for it, it would mean that I reach the bottom.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’d always assume an entry fee covers hire fees for the venue only

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I’d always assume an entry fee covers hire fees for the venue only"

Some host in their own home

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If it was me there would be more cleavage than creps and I would of met the majority previously through socials or club meets. Some wrongens out there

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Usually find entry fees cover the venue, cleaning costs and any nibbles or condoms provided, if there are special guests can cover their travel

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By *bi HaiveMan
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over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

"Recent events (pardon the pun) have raised the question of where's the line on money and sex?

I'm talking about people asking for an 'entry fee' to attend a private sex party or gangbang (not a public social).

What makes it a party and not pr*stituti*n?

Do you need to provide snacks?

Maximum or minimum numbers?"

The onky time I've been to a private party where there was an entry fee was because a house had been rented, food and drink laid on and the place was being professionally cleaned next day.

I think it was about £20. A contribution, not a fee to guarantee sex or to make a profit for the organisers.

I've been to parties in people's homes where everyone was asked to take a bottle of wine or spirits. Some brought snacks and soft drinks. No money changed hands.

If an event is charging a fee and its clear that it's to cover rhe cost of certain people attending to service guests then you can work that out for yourself, surely? There's a club in Birmingham that operates this way and it's definitely not a swingers club.

The choice to pay and attend is down to the individual. There's obviously market for it because these things happen. Is it right? Some would say its just sex work and therefore just another job. Others would say it has no place being advertised on or linked to a swingers site.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Usually find entry fees cover the venue, cleaning costs and any nibbles or condoms provided, if there are special guests can cover their travel"

What's a special guest?

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By *essaMayWoman
over a year ago

Fairytale Wood

Depends on the reason for the fee. You pay to go into clubs. Some people charge nominal fee so they can provide refreshments, hire venue.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Anything over the cost of providing nibbles is prostitution.

For example, some parties charge couples £30 and single men £70. The women and couples are usually oblivious that they are being used as sex bait and the 'host' is making money from them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Swingers clubs that charge couples £20, women £5 and men £70 are totally different. The men clearly use over triple of the club facilities, hence why they are charged so much more.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Usually find entry fees cover the venue, cleaning costs and any nibbles or condoms provided, if there are special guests can cover their travel

What's a special guest?"

When someone outside the area tours the local parties

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By *essaMayWoman
over a year ago

Fairytale Wood

"Usually find entry fees cover the venue, cleaning costs and any nibbles or condoms provided, if there are special guests can cover their travel

What's a special guest?"

I have been refered to as "special" a few times and been a guest at party. Sorry couldn't resist

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Usually find entry fees cover the venue, cleaning costs and any nibbles or condoms provided, if there are special guests can cover their travel

What's a special guest?

When someone outside the area tours the local parties"

But why is that different to joe/jane bloggs travelling to a party? What makes them special?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Usually find entry fees cover the venue, cleaning costs and any nibbles or condoms provided, if there are special guests can cover their travel

What's a special guest?

When someone outside the area tours the local parties

Usually someone semi famous in the scene or OF/insta etc

But why is that different to joe/jane bloggs travelling to a party? What makes them special?"

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Usually find entry fees cover the venue, cleaning costs and any nibbles or condoms provided, if there are special guests can cover their travel

What's a special guest?

When someone outside the area tours the local parties

Usually someone semi famous in the scene or OF/insta etc

But why is that different to joe/jane bloggs travelling to a party? What makes them special?"

If they have sex there does that not make them a sex worker?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I don't go to parties or events but if I share a hotel room I ALWAYS pay at least half of the cost and usually guesstimate so over pay to be sure.

Sex and money are a no from me.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

If people are paying for a hotel room and food and drinks etc... Why should they foot all the bill.?

Clubs are a commercial enterprise.

But yeah i guess it can be a fine line at times.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't go to parties or events but if I share a hotel room I ALWAYS pay at least half of the cost and usually guesstimate so over pay to be sure.

Sex and money are a no from me."

So how does you paying your share towards the cost of a hotel room differ from guests at a party paying their share (via an entry fee) towards the cost of a party?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I don't go to parties or events but if I share a hotel room I ALWAYS pay at least half of the cost and usually guesstimate so over pay to be sure.

Sex and money are a no from me.

So how does you paying your share towards the cost of a hotel room differ from guests at a party paying their share (via an entry fee) towards the cost of a party? "

That's my question.

Where is the line?

Is it if there's one girl in a gangbang charging waayyyy more than costs require?

What if there are no costs and it's for the access?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't go to parties or events but if I share a hotel room I ALWAYS pay at least half of the cost and usually guesstimate so over pay to be sure.

Sex and money are a no from me.

So how does you paying your share towards the cost of a hotel room differ from guests at a party paying their share (via an entry fee) towards the cost of a party? "

There's a difference between splitting the cost of a room (~£150) to 'guests' paying a total of £500+.

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

"The day I’d pay for it, it would mean that I reach the bottom. "
you’d pay to touch someone’s bottom?

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By *rispyDuckMan
over a year ago

Chinese Takeaway near you

This is whats put me off attending parties! I get the are costs yo running a lovely venue & do appreciate that

It's when a certain group is taken advantage off & their charged triple what couples or single ladies are charged

. Again I understand supply & demand but what perks does this overcharged group get for paying more than everyone else? Anyhow that's not my problem

I do just fine without need for these venues

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The day I’d pay for it, it would mean that I reach the bottom. "

Bottom is extra…

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I don't get the rationale for charging single guys so very much more.

Yes it might put off the less-genuine or the undesirables, but who decides the criteria and, beyond that, it makes no sense beyond knowing there is a demand to milk and make money from.

The females being let in cheaply as bait for the cashcow males.

Couples paying a mid-rate but there's two of them so works out cheaper again.

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By *rder66Man
over a year ago

Tatooine

"Anything over the cost of providing nibbles is prostitution.

For example, some parties charge couples £30 and single men £70. The women and couples are usually oblivious that they are being used as sex bait and the 'host' is making money from them. "
70 would only cover the amout of wotsits I can each so, bargin.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The day I’d pay for it, it would mean that I reach the bottom. "

I think anal at one of these gatherings might be more expensive.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Anything over the cost of providing nibbles is prostitution.

For example, some parties charge couples £30 and single men £70. The women and couples are usually oblivious that they are being used as sex bait and the 'host' is making money from them. 70 would only cover the amout of wotsits I can each so, bargin."

Supply and demand.

That's market forces in action.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"Anything over the cost of providing nibbles is prostitution.

For example, some parties charge couples £30 and single men £70. The women and couples are usually oblivious that they are being used as sex bait and the 'host' is making money from them. 70 would only cover the amout of wotsits I can each so, bargin.

Supply and demand.

That's market forces in action."

Isnt their enough pussy for one each? Or are some people hogging them?

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

If it's a cost sharing system, where the costs are equally and transparently shared between all guests, then it's reasonable. Otherwise, it's a private individual or group, that's operating similarly to a swinging club, without any of the legal protections, nor business costs and risks. They should not be operating, nor promoted on Fab, as users are in breach of the Fab terms and conditions.

If it's akin to sex work, where staff are employed to engage, then this should not be here.

It's reasonable to expect to see all costs and receipts, for social/sexual get togethers. If it's operating like a business, they are competing unfairly with clubs and will help to reduce the success of clubs.

Small change, petty cash-like friendly endeavours are private parties, different to businesses.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't get the rationale for charging single guys so very much more.

Yes it might put off the less-genuine or the undesirables, but who decides the criteria and, beyond that, it makes no sense beyond knowing there is a demand to milk and make money from.

The females being let in cheaply as bait for the cashcow males.

Couples paying a mid-rate but there's two of them so works out cheaper again."
not all clubs do this

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't go to parties or events but if I share a hotel room I ALWAYS pay at least half of the cost and usually guesstimate so over pay to be sure.

Sex and money are a no from me.

So how does you paying your share towards the cost of a hotel room differ from guests at a party paying their share (via an entry fee) towards the cost of a party?

There's a difference between splitting the cost of a room (~£150) to 'guests' paying a total of £500+."

Of course but surely it depends on cost of the venue, the number of participants and the charge per person.

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